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Late growth spurts can happen - usually of unwanted bits, like girth or nose.  Although height growth is usually caused by agromegaly.

I wish it was all so explainable.  Pity me!  My feet keep growing.  Really!  I have gone from 3+1/2 to a size 7 since my mid 20s.  I am a tiny person!  I can't watch "The Simpsons" anymore - I have too much in common with Sideshow Bob.
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the internet is having a field day with Trumps fake medical report

Doctor says Trump is 6-3, 239 pounds, and the Internet has so many athlete comparisons

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/16/doctor-says-trump-is-6-3-239-pounds-and-the-internet-has-so-many-athlete-comparisons/?undefined=&utm_term=.1a3de89f0635&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1


239lbs ?

maybe they meant kilograms ? LOL

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the mystery has been solved

Trump's doctor is a graduate suma cum laude Trump University LOL
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

the mystery has been solved

Trump's doctor is a graduate suma cum laude Trump University LOL
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Trump’s Physical Revealed Serious Heart Concerns, Outside Experts Say


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%e2%80%99s-physical-revealed-serious-heart-concerns-outside-experts-say/ar-AAuPo0o?li=BBnb7Kz


the FACTS clearly show Trump is at high risk for a heart attack


Dr Ronny has humiliated himself among his peers and made himself a laughingstock

but he probably had a gun held to his head and was merely repeating talking points given to him by Trump's sycophants


the JOKE that is our President continues

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BEST President ever?  I think these photos speak volumes....


Only a proper narcissist would let his son, who has no jacket, and his wife, who has nothing on her head, get rained on while boarding Air Force One.

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Re: The medical exam.

The weight of 239 lbs (and height of 6ft 3 inch) makes a BMI of 29.87 rounded to 29.9 so in the overweight category.  But if it was one pound more then the BMI would be 29.99 (rounded to 30.0) and so obese.

Is that the real weight, or was it lowered a little to make things look better than they really are? 


The LDL reading of 143 seems to me to be high (but not very high), but it is up from the last check in of 94. 



Disclaimer: while I can look up on internet what these figures might mean, I have not had medical training so will not try to give any medical opinion.
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i just wonder if the "heel spurs" showed up on this medical ?????? LMAO.................Wink
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carbon - It's a proven fact that heel spurs cured themselves after May 1st 1975! Also a lot of drug addicts were miraculously cured! The rate of homosexuality decreased, people who had changed their major several times and had been in college for years finally graduated and a lot of men who had spent extended vacations in Canada decided to come home! Oh, I almost forgot! For some reason the Army National Guard and the Reserves started finding it hard to recruit! I don't remember why, must have been a coincidence!
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What I could find for 1st May 1975:

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  • Under pressure from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the New York Stock Exchange dropped the requirement of a fixed commission for stock transactions. Free to vary their rates, brokerage houses could compete for large investors by offering a lower charge than that for individuals.[1] "Overnight...the average commission dropped by 75 percent," Alan C. Greenberg would note in 2010, adding "the 5,000 share trade of IBM stock 35 years ago included a $1,500 commission but today can be executed online for $8.95".[2]
  • Hank Aaron broke the career record for RBIs runs batted in when his Milwaukee Brewers beat the Detroit Tigers 17-3. Aaron, who had already broken Babe Ruth's career home run record, surpassed Ruth's RBI mark with the 2,210th RBI.[3] Aaron's record of 2,297 RBIs remains unbroken.



But I think you must be referring the the events of the day before:

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  • The Fall of Saigon took place, effectively ending the Vietnam War as a victory for the Communists, at 10:24am local time (0324 UTC) when South Vietnamese President Duong Van Minh announced the surrender of the nation to North Vietnamese invaders. "I believe firmly in reconciliation among Vietnamese to avoid unnecessary shedding of the blood of Vietnamese," said Minh. "For this reason, I ask the soldiers of the Republic of Vietnam to cease hostilities in calm and to stay where they are." The Viet Cong flag was raised over the presidential palace at 12:15.[73] Earlier in the day, U.S. Ambassador Graham Martin was the last American diplomat to leave Saigon, lifting off of the U.S. Embassy roof at 4:58 am, and at 7:52 am USMC Colonel James Kean and ten U.S. Marines boarded an American helicopter and left, ending the U.S. presence in Vietnam.[74] Saigon was renamed "Ho Chi Minh City"; Huỳnh Tấn Phát of North Vietnam then administered the "Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam" as President until July 2, 1976, when the area was formally incorporated by the North as part of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam.[75]
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Iraq vet Duckworth to 'Cadet Bone Spurs' Trump: 'I won't be lectured by a 5-deferment draft-dodger'

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/20/1734529/-Sen-Tammy-Duckworth-tears-Cadet-Bone-Spurs-a-new-one-over-blaming-Democrats-for-TrumpShutdown

“And I will not be lectured about what our military needs by a five-deferment draft-dodger. And I have a message for Cadet Bone Spurs: If you cared about our military, you’d stop baiting Kim Jong-Un into a war that could put 85,000 American troops and millions of innocent civilians in danger.”

Cadet Bone Spurs LOL
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EdwinSm,- Sorry! I was going from memory! I was in my twenties and will never forget the shame and embarrassment I felt!
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Airish....I think your date was right, as it was the day after the 'fall of Saigon'...we humans need a bit of time to absorb the news, and this was still in the era of morning newspapers!


I was in my early 20s then, but living in London so the issue was not so important to me.  That time would have been around the time of university end of year exams, so I would have had other things on my mindErmm 

I guessed what you were talking about, but had to look it up in Wiki, so I thought I would share the info for others for whom,  like me, the date was not fixed in their brain
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EdwinSm - NEWS certainly didn't happen as fast then and this is so much a part of my reality I forget others didn't live it! It was a hard time! I lost too many people during that time,and I'm still not sure why! I'm glad most people didn't have to experience it! I wish I'd been in London with you! At the same time,if you had been in the U.S. you would have had a blast! It was a crazy time!    
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Go Trump!  Yes - ABC and other stations have stopped monitoring the new jobs because they are increasing a lot.  And finally - telling Hillary - Game Over Dudette - not only did they elect him in 2016 - it looks like he will be winning in 2020 as well. Live with it.

Donald Trump may go down in history as he negotiates with North Korea to give up their nukes. No country has very done that. No one has ever quit.  This is going to be tougher for Rocketman than no more rich cheeses and wasting money while people are starving.

He should be awarded the Nobel Peace prize if he can back down Kim Jong-un. Wake up people. America is more than just a dream - it is also a business. And Democrats are terrible at running any kind of business and worse with money.

You go Big T - I told them all from the start - that you would come through - and you did.

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It was a witch hunt - there was no witch or warlock to burn and all was smoke and mirrors of a scandal generated by the Democrats. All lies.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/12/house-intel-finds-no-evidence-collusion-between-trump-campaign-and-russia.html


The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence said Monday it found “no evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” as its Russia investigation starts to come to a close.

Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Texas, who has led the committee’s bipartisan investigation into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates during the 2016 presidential election, announced Monday that the panel had completed a more than 150-page draft report, with its initial findings and recommendations.

“We have found no evidence of collusion, coordination, or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” the committee said in a statement Monday.




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GOP Rep. Tom Rooney Breaks Ranks On Russia Report: ‘We’ve Lost All Credibility’


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tom-rooney-russia-report-cnn_us_5aa726d5e4b009b705d573f0


don't even get me started

SOME of us make it a point to keep informed

others

watch FOX NewsLOL

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Phil Mudd Rips GOP Intel Committee Report: 'I Wouldn't Wipe My Ass With It!'

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/phil-mudd-rips-gop-intel-committee-report


well said sir


WELL SAID LOL


ANYTHING Devin Nunes has anything to do with

HAS to be a fraud,a farce or a lie

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Frankly, Trump's innocence or guilt will remain hidden (and argued over) until at least the end of this enquiry, probably long after.  Those of us outside the loop (ie. almost everyone) who only have propaganda to go on, may be convinced.  But, that is because we choose information sources who  back up our already formed opinions.

This one will run and run.

Talking of already formed opinions:  I am still looking for a right-wing news source to replace Fox news.  Finding out just how inaccurate their stuff is has left my attempts at seeing both sides very lop sided.  Can anyone help?
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its a bit of of a scary  to call it Fox news , News 

even more scary to think that people watch it and whats more believe it 
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Agreed, Carbon.  I was horrified (when they reported inaccurately* on a subject I personally knew better about) by just how inaccurate they were.  I understood 'reputable' news agencies to have a great deal of oversight from a number of quangoes. 

The obfuscation, twisting and outright lies they spouted shocked me profoundly.  It made everything else they reported deeply suspect.

This is genuinely problematic.  Although the lies, damn lies and statistics from the left-leaning press has not been shown to be as extreme (this time) I can't take everything they say as gospel without hearing the other side as well, but I don't have a right-wing side to listen to anymore AND I NEED ONE!

However desperate, I will never watch Fox News again:  "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!" as my mother used to say.






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Joe Biden When He Saw The Intelligence: “If this is true, It’s treason.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/13/1748605/-Joe-Biden-When-He-Saw-The-Intelligence-If-this-is-true-It-s-treason

In the last weeks of the Obama presidency, Vice President Joe Biden was briefed on intelligence reports on the connections between assorted Trump associates and Russians. He had a visceral reaction. “If this is true,” he exclaimed. “It’s treason.”
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Trey Gowdy admits that the Republican House Intelligence report is fundamentally wrong

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/14/1748905/-Trey-Gowdy-admits-that-the-Republican-House-Intelligence-report-is-fundamentally-wrong

LOL !!!

even the odious Trey Gowdy admits the Republican report is a big bag of %&*^%$
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Trump continues to shine despite a hostile media, a corrupt CIA and FBI and a host of complete and total falsehood. It is possible he will win the Nobel Peace Prize for finally muzzling Kim Jong-un and forcing him to abandon his nuclear program.

In the mean time, we have a new ally.  We have never really been that close with France and now they have a renegade as well, Macron, not a classic politician attempting to fight ISIS and free the world of the terrorist threat.

Macron is a very effective and honest man. His comments were very interesting this morning and I feel he has an insight into Trump and an understanding. We need unity with U.K. and France as allies against the terrorists and ISIS.

Our president continues to shine and perhaps is doing more for our country than any other president has in years.

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You're entitled to your views, Med, but I see nothing Trump has done since taking office that qualifies as shining. Unless we're talking about the flickering of the flames in his dumpster fire of a presidency.

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I've got to agree with Jacksdad, Med.

Trump does appear to be quite good with money, as are most Republicans.  But unlike other Republicans, he seems to have made a total shambles of everything else. 

Believe me, over here, he is a laughing stock.  No one on this side of the pond can understand what so many Americans can see in him.  I mean we really don't get it.  We see a man with more flaws than the Devil, mired in controvesy, uncaring about the people he hurts and lacking in any redeeming features save one - good with money.  That is not enough to make a good man; or even a human being - a soulless computer can do that.

I concede he is "good with money" and that has advantages, but nothing else.  I see him as a shame on your nation that many Americans were duped into voting for.  I hope it was a mistake.  If you all voted for the real Trump - I can't say what I think.  I don't want to lose that many friends.
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Technophobe, I can tell you what the American People see in Trump. A chance to drain the Swamp. D.C. is so corrupt Republicans and Democrats. Many Republicans are dumping out of running because they can't do as many dirty deals and Democrats just don't care they stay because no matter what they will continue to do the dirty deals. Dems just do not care they deal dirty all the time.

You in Europe better be glad the American People made Trump President because if we have to bail your butts out again like we did in WWI and WWII you better be glad Trump is President. And if Trump is not President you better hope that you get another Republican President because no Democrat President will come to Europe's Aid again. Roosevelt and Kennedy were more Republican than many Republicans today. The Democrats will sell their mother for a little money in their own pockets so they would never help Europe again. Look at Obama he made a mess of everything and Trump is trying to correct all of his screw ups. North Korea and the Middle East just to name two.

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Originally posted by Medclinician Medclinician wrote:

Trump continues to shine despite a hostile media, a corrupt CIA and FBI and a host of complete and total falsehood. It is possible he will win the Nobel Peace Prize for finally muzzling Kim Jong-un and forcing him to abandon his nuclear program.

LOL You really believe that Trump will be able to smooth-talk Kim into giving up his nukes??  

Kim can easily halt warhead testing = he has designs that they have proven will work.  Pakistan, India, Israel etc. have all done the same thing.  With modern super-computers, you can do the equivalent of "fine-tuning" the warheads without actually blowing them up (which wastes fissile material).  Same goes for his missile launches = they work.  

Also, the main test site in North Korea is so damaged that it is in danger of leaking radiation: 


Nukes are all Kim has to prevent regime change, the chance that he will surrender those to a smooth-talking master negotiator like Trump is exactly zero.  Worst President, ever.




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Americans have never bailed out anyone, everything they do and have done is in the best interests of the American people, you seem to over look the fact you got your arses kicked in Vietnam,coz you never had the Brit's with you......the Great Amnesia of the USA....you deserve Chump the world dosnt.......
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you did nothing for England,in fact the UK had only recently paid your extortionate loan off for all the weapons you sold them
.....it was called lend lease........
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Yeah, You helped us in WWII.  You did not do so until You were attacked at Pearl Harbour and then YOU CHARGED US FOR IT!  We only finished paying in the 80s.  So don't act as if that was the greatest act of friendship ever.  We fought too, for longer and we faced the Blitz.  Had Hitler defeated us, the world would be a far darker place.  So thank you for your help, but don't imagine it made you look like avenging angels or even best friends - just great businessmen.

I actually liked Obama, but I concede he was far from perfect.  I like most of your Past Presidents on both sides of the house.  Trump however stands out - for all the wrong reasons. 

America is a great country.  It's manufacturing might is the envy of the free world.  It is truly the land of opportunities.  But, it is not a caring country. It is not a safe country.  Justice is only available for the rich; medicine likewise.  Jobs for the workers may be growing in number but the legislation to protect them is shrinking - do you WANT to be slaves?  Because that is what you are being turned into.  Having a bit of paper which calls you a free citizen does not make you one.  The freedom to avoid opression, incarceration, disease and poverty does. 

I occasionally watch American TV.  Every decision faced by every adult comes back to money.  In America you die without it.  The governments of most other countries try to save the poor.  But, as demonstrated by your TV dramas, the need to maintain a job at any cost is paramount.  Great to make your nation strong!  But why?  Strong for what?  Does it then care for those who worked so hard?  AND THE WORST PART OF THIS IS THAT THE SLAVERY IS SO COMPLETE YOU CAN NO LONGER SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS!

How you expect a billionaire, who left many of his investors bankrupt to change this is simply beyond me. He may have placed pipes and pumps into the swamp, but the flow of sewage is going the wrong way.


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Sometimes the truth hurts.......

Well said technophobe....
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Well I have been researching America's role in the first world war; to my shame I knew little about it.

It turns out that your involvement only occurred in 1917, although the war raged from 1914 onwards.  Worse, American involvement was only brought about because their own ships were being lost due to U-boat attacks - AND THAT CUT INTO THEIR PROFITS.

Make no mistake, the first world war showered Britain in something very, very far from glory, but America can't claim the moral, friendship or courage high ground here either. 

Source:   https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-one/america-and-world-war-one/

Thank you Flumom, for encouraging me to fill in this shameful hole in my knowledge.  I am sorry to have uncovered no glory or either of us.
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Med said "In the mean time, we have a new ally. We have never really been that close with France and now they have a renegade as well, Macron, not a classic politician attempting to fight ISIS and free the world of the terrorist threat."   

Really?!!! France is the oldest ally the United States has! Since B Franklin signed the Treaty of Amity and Commerce and the Treaty of Alliance in 1778 we have been allies. The French have always come to our aid faster than we've come to theirs! Learn your history!!

Also,

To all you Brits: I'm Scots and Irish and my elders still tell stories of how we were treated in "the old country"! We came here and with the help of the French kicked the English out which is more than most of you can say! My family fought in both WW I and WW II, and yes, it took too long for us to join in on both but what has the U K ever done for us! We've been enemies as often as we've been allies!

And also! Don't believe American TV represents American life, it doesn't! Don't confuse the far righteous anomaly that is Trump with the soul of America! Like all countries we have our fair share of Fascists but they are a tiny minority! We are no more slaves than you are Techno! We are a free people! We may not always choose rightly but we can always change our minds!
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.......  Which is what I am hoping for.  I don't think Trump is normal for America.  I don't think Trump is normal for anyone.  I don't think Trump is normal!  I really firmly believe the American people (well at least half of them) were duped.  I am worried that some of them still are.

Wage slavery, when it overrides other important parts of life, is still slavery in a way.  It is less overt; it locks people into economic traps instead of locking them up in chains.  But the freedom is still gone.  I have the choice to move around for love or homesickness, not just for a better salary, because the better salary gives me designer clothes, not better healthcare.  I am lucky enough to have been able to drop the big wage packet and replace it with true treasures.  I want that freedom for everyone else.

I don't think Britain is perfect - very far from it!  Historically they were absolutely ghastly!  Actually I am mostly Irish - with a bit of Welsh and a bit of Scots.  My own Grandfather was educated in a hedge school, because Irish education was illegal - then they made jokes about us being thick.  CHARMING!!  

Freedom, care, justice, democracy and security are ephemeral things which have to be fought for, or they evaporate.  Britain has it about right for now, but who knows for how long?  (I have an Irish passport just in case........................)  That risk applies to every country on the planet.  If you don't see them evaporating you can't fight to retain them. 

I'm too old and decrepit to march off with a rifle now, but democracy, freedom and care can be fought for with pen and keyboard as well.  The upside of that is I can fight for my friends at the same time.

I could pick an argument with most past Presidents, but overall they were generally great guys.  I really wish I could say that of Trump.  It is not even a question of left/right, more a question of right/wrong.  I could shut up and upset nobody, but I chose to fight for my friends.  You would tell your friend if you saw someone lifting their wallet, even if it embarrased your friend.  A true friend speaks up if they see their pal making a fool of himself, even if that mention sparks an argument.

Trump is a conman, with a trail of wounded in his wake - some mortally.  Now he is in a position to do that to a whole country, maybe even the whole world.
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sorry my point was not to belittle ,it was to point out America is not the be all and end all of of everything,

i am and always will be a supporter of the USA ,BRITAIN ,Canada and here Australia,why 

BECAUSE we all share the same values,

Mostly...lol

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Spot on Carbon my friend.  That is how I feel. 

America is a good friend - not a perfect one.  But, that is OK, we are imperfect too - for all that we mean well.  Think of me as Irish or Brit; either way America is an ally, as are Australia Canada and NZ. 
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No matter what Trump does - how much he accomplishes - the haters are never going to quit. They will be debating about Hillary long after we know she and Bill operated a pay for play organization and were in collusion with the Russians.

Reality - they are about to save the U.S. from a nuclear war with North Korea - or at least the destruction of Seoul, South Korea by a nuke or at least guns.

Obama did nothing to make our world more peaceful and by his negligence allowed Isis to flourish in Syria and Russia to move their forces their.  The he gave Iran almost a billion dollar which financed the develop of nukes and terrorist. Students don't think Trump should get the peace prize - but they haven't a intelligent clue as to why they think Obama got it.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

Well here is some reality for those who live in the misty realms of social justice warrior delusion...
Trump may get it.

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Dream on, Med.
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The North Korean's SUCKING you in..............

You really must be blind............
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10 points to Trump for the NK thing
minus 100 for denying climate change and actually shutting down research
how many people are going to die because of his inaction and IGNORANCE ???
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NO points to Trump on the NK thing....he's being set up by a regime that is masterful in deceit and double-dealing. 

Halting testing?  No big deal, they have their warhead design now.  Pakistan doesn't test either, but they are still building "Islamic bombs" (*crickets*)

Destroying his test site?  Kim already destroyed it with so many tests.  

Surrender his nukes?  Yeah, that'll be the day.  

Let prisoners go?  He sure knows how to jerk American heartstrings & pull Trump's chain.  

Trump handed something that is invaluable to Kim = prestige and international credibility.  This is a guy who killed his own half-brother with outlawed VX nerve agent.  

Nobel prize?  LOL
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Ten points in Trump's hand - for the moment.  We are waiting to see if Kim snatches them back, or even if some are illusions.  It is also possible that Kim will try to snatch things back and Trump will catch him - it is far harder to con a conman than someone honest.

I think Kim is pulling a fast one.  Whether or not Trump is faster remains to be seen.  As for the minus scores?  They still stand.
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Come to think of it, ten points in his hand anyway - from his supporters.  Even if the NK deal goes awry, they will all believe he won anyway so the election points are still there - even if they are an illusion.

Ring any bells, Med?
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Well, lhe dropped the ten points.  Kim did not even have to snatch them back. http://www.avianflutalk.com/north-korea-threatens-to-cancel-us-summit_topic37339_post270356.html#270356

Pompeo was doing so well.  Now, THAT is an own goal.
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