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Online Discussion: Tracking new emerging diseases and the next pandemic


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jacksdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2018 at 2:53pm
Water wars. They're coming. My money is on India and Pakistan being among the first as reduced snow melt from the Himalayas begins to impact their shared water supply. And they both have nuclear capability.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Technophobe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2018 at 4:21pm
I know this is coming.  I understand the need to close borders.  I don't have to like it.  I especially don't have to like the methods used! 

I will kill and eat my backyard chickens, but I don't torture them.  I don't terrify them.  I don't take their babies away whilst they are still babies.  Egg layers and other 'farm workers' live out their days in peace.  If I can manage that for a bird, then we should be able to treat human beings with at least that much respect.

It is theoretically possible to stretch rescources to help everyone, but I know full well that will not happen.  Firstly, everyone would have to share and then we all would have to limit our breeding.  The vast majority are too stupid, ill educated and just plain selfish for that.  So the otherwise avoidable catastrophe becomes the inevitable one.  'And, although they will have a few more years and ultimately a few more survivors,  most of the selfish rich will die alongside those dirt-poor they hoarded rescources from. 

I don't have to like it at all.  I refuse to give up on the microscopically minute chance to change things.  We may exist between ape and angel, but we can strive to rise further; it beats giving in to our baser instincts.  If one less person dies because of the efforts of someone here, then that is a triumph beyond precious.

Failing that, if you must shut out the 'huddled masses' America was once so proud to take, send them back together.  Don't make a necessary evil into an excuse to torture, terrify and tear appart.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2018 at 4:29pm
I hate it but for me that's reality,im a realist,

And I don't worry to much about a pandemic ,just think of how many animals it will save from extinction by Man.....

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Carbon20, I'm with you on this one. We are a tiny nation here in NZ and an influx of people seeking to escape disaster in their own country would cripple us, we simply don't have a infastructure to cope. 

Personally I'd like to see a killer disease sweep through the world and take out 80% and then the survivors could recalibrate and the pressure would be off.

As for water wars, I think they are definitely coming. We get rationed with our water supply in the summer, and rightly so. I have a sister who lives in NSW in Australia and she waters her small lawn and garden but uses water from a natural spring on her property, but she has taken to hanging out a big sign in front of her fence that says "Garden watered with spring water only" to avoid hostility from her neighbours.

We are increasingly getting more droughts here in Summer and on our property we collect all the rainwater from our roofs into 4 huge tanks and use this to water the orchard and vege garden in high summer. 

Friends of ours who live at the top of a big hill don't get much water through their pipes during the summer as the water pressure drops so much it doesn't make it to the top of the hill. They rely on the fire brigade delivering a tanker of water every few weeks - and they have to pay for that. 

As for Trump and his current antics, how is he getting away with this? He sees immigrants as not human and therefore with no human rights. Why aren't people rising up to stop him?
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