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Anyone buying any extra supplies?

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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Good advice, Chuck. Keep it coming - water preps are probably the hardest for most people because of the space and weight involved.

Thanks, Jacksdad.  

The EPA catchs a lot of flack for being overly controlling (because they sure can be!), but they also have some damn good advice.  This has dosages, recommendations etc. for emergency water treatment:


I'm busily stockpiling my anti-convulsant medications (I have epilepsy), don't forget that prep!  All the water in the world won't help you if you run out of vital medication.  

It also helps to know herbal substitutes if such exists.  In my case, it would probably be pot.  Don't tell anyone I said that. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jacksdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2014 at 10:59pm
I have glaucoma controlled by latanoprost eye drops, but I also know of a herbal substitute that would work in a SHTF situation. I won't tell if you don't...
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I have a niece with glaucoma, do tell please, JD!  My email is listed if you would rather.
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Same "herbal medication" that Chuck said he could use in a pinch
The authorities tend to frown on it, and to be honest, everything I've read suggests that pot only reduces pressure in the eye for a short time, and not by much. The pressure in my eyes was enough to freak out all the techs and my doctor when they tested me, so I really need the prescription medication.
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Ah,  In that case I will borrow a copy of Grieve's "A modern herbal" and look some others up for myself. 

If I find anything I will let you know.  Grieve has never let me down before. 
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Originally posted by Nanook Nanook wrote:

Now that we have hit the 100 cases and the WHO is finally in the field, things could change for the worse overnight.  I think that it is prudent to do what we need to do now, just in case.  Fill up your stocks and get your house in order.  The moment after H7N9 arrives on our soil, or when the press announces that it has, it will hit the fan. 


Nanook - what do you mean by now that we have hit the 100 cases & who is finally in the field"???

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Hi Guys, my husband had glaucoma and he was part of an experimental laser treatment. Maybe 15 years ago time goes by so fast, my husband has been gone for 5 years now...seems like yesterday. But they did one eye and the pressure went to normal and stayed that way for 6 months he asked if our Doc would do the other eye. Somehow our Doc got the machine back and they did the other eye.

My husband's pressure remained normal in both eyes until his death. In the study it worked on only 30% of the people and the machine was very expensive so I don't think it ever went anywhere.

I can tell you that even though only 30% were cured I think it was worth it. My husband did not have to worry about the drops and if it was working. But with such a low cure rate I think it did not succeed unless someone know it is still out there.

Just googled Laser treatment for Glaucoma...yes they do treat it that way so it must work for a better percentage of people. If you have Glaucoma I really recommend you do it...it works!
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Food - Get at least 6 weeks of freeze dried food in #10 Cans, taste quality same for 25 years, and still edible even longer. Always Keep kitchen stocked with 3-4 weeks worth of canned and dried food like pasta and rice. That's not much more than most have anyway. So thats 10 weeks supply w/o having to go out.  

Water - Get a Sawyer Mini for each person to make almost any water source drinkable. 

Cooking - consider a rocket stove as back-up if there is no electricity (or gas), it's 3X as heat efficient as a wood fire so small amounts of fuel required so easy to scrounge even in urban environment. Also much faster to start, cooking only 20 minutes.    

My last post here was 7 years ago and no pandemic has occured. If I post in another 7 years and there still has been no pandemic, the freeze dried food reserve will then still be top quality for another 18 years. 




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Originally posted by jpnkevin jpnkevin wrote:



My last post here was 7 years ago and no pandemic has occured. 


Not quite, the 2009 H1N1 pandemic swept across the globe, killed a bunch of folks, and now circulates as a seasonal strain.  


Granted, the H1N1 "swine flu" pandemic didn't turn out to be the "big one" that many had predicted, but I knew plenty of public health experts who were worried shirt-less about it!  

I read viral genetics papers for fun, and I was tracking H1N1 closely, so I wasn't as worried.  It was an interesting mix of human, swine and avian genetics with a few bits of horse, dog etc. tossed in.  

The PH folks were bugged because the 1918 Spanish Flu was also an H1N1.  

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