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    Posted: December 10 2016 at 4:44am

The GOP unveils a 'permanent save' for Social Security -- with massive benefit cuts


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/the-gop-unveils-a-permanent-save-for-social-security-with-massive-benefit-cuts/ar-AAlness?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ACERDHP15


and I've previously posted a link to the Republican plan to absolutely gut Medicare

you'll get a voucher for $3000 and then your on your own to purchase or should I say try to purchase health insurance,good freakin' luck grannny


if these plans pass the working and middle class will be thrown into an absolutely POVERTY STRICKEN level of retirement


happy NOW ?

still worried about Hillary's emails now

that you won't be able to keep a roof over your head or food on the table?


you'd better hope and pray that the Democrats can defeat this


you wanted "hope and change" Republican style

well you got itAngryAngryAngry


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GOP House Rule Would Ban Video Of Protests As They Gut Medicare and Social Security On House Floor

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/27/1614830/-GOP-House-Rule-Would-Ban-Video-Of-Protests-As-They-Gut-Medicare-and-Social-Security-On-House-Floor

"It is understandable why the House would want to block the public from seeing protests by their representatives. Among the various initiatives the Republicans plan to pass in the new session is pending legislation to cut Social Security benefits by 17-28%, raise the retirement age to 69, replace Medicare with a “coupon system,” and, of course, eliminate health insurance for 22 million Americans."

hey grandma
let me know how that whole "coupon" thingy works out fer ya


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and a big ol' "thank you" to Trump voters from America's elderly  Angry

Tom Price's Plan To Destroy Medicare: "Balance Billing" Seniors Into Bankruptcy

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/28/1615175/-Tom-Price-s-Plan-To-Destroy-Medicare-Balance-Billing-Seniors-Into-Bankruptcy

Make America Great Again?

NO

Make America's Elderly POOR Again
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I suppose that depends on how you define great:

 It will be truly great if your definition is rich (as I suspect Trump defines it - it is what he understands, after all).

But, truly diminished if your definition is fair, caring, genuinely Christian or just civilised (as will be judged by many of its people and much of the international community). 
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if you're asking if I'm thrilled to have a 'real president' again who actually loves this country and cares about the people already here and citizens, then 'yes, I'm thrilled!!!'.

and yes, I'm still quite disturbed to find that Hillary's emails contained so much disgusting material about her private life.  Many rumours about her for years but it was amazing and sickening to see just how bad the truth really was about her.  Also interesting to see that a national pedophile ring was busted the same weekend that Comey let her off of charges for the second time and he led it up.  The timing was pretty amazing....

When he said he wants to 'drain the swamp' it wasn't just about politics.  He wants those scum gone who felt they needed those little kids for their amusement.  I hope he gets rid of ALL the slime and undoes most of what Obama did to us.


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Ok so what if Trump ,

after stopping all the billions of $$$$$ Food and  Medical aid the USA gives to the United Nations , 

he gives it all to the Homeless ,Poor ,Sick AMERICANS......

After all thats his mantra

USA FIRST.....

just asking find it all extermely  interesting........


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Republicans are going to get rid of the laws that limit bank overdraft fees

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/10/1632282/-Republicans-are-going-to-get-rid-of-the-laws-that-limit-bank-overdraft-fees

more swamp draining Trump style

how much more evidence do people need to realize they have been CONNED ?
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No, the Republican healthcare bill does not protect preexisting conditions

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/no-republican-healthcare-bill-does-222356142.html


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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

No, the Republican healthcare bill does not protect preexisting conditions

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/no-republican-healthcare-bill-does-222356142.html





That's the bill that they were forced to draft to win the approval of the Freedom Caucus. Moderate Republicans like Fred Upton are thankfully backing away from it because of the lack of coverage for pre-existing conditions.




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FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL CITIZENS.........

whats wrong with that ......
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Too big of a cash cow, carbon. They won't do the right thing without putting up a fight first.
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spend Trillions to kill people who live thousands of miles away..........


cant look after your own.......

sad....Cry
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Latest ACA Repeal Plan Would Explode Premiums for People with Pre-Existing Conditions

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ng-conditions/

oh well
people wanted change
and now they're gonna get it
RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES
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You're Not Safe from Republicans' Obamacare Replacement if You Get Your Insurance Through Work

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/youre-not-safe-republicans-obamacare-replacement-if-you-get-your-insurance-through


thanks Trump supporters

thanks a lot


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Donald Trump does not think US should copy Australia's health system, White House says

By Washington correspondent Zoe Daniel, wires

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VIDEO: Mr Trump says negative phone call with Mr Turnbull 'fake news' in New York meeting (ABC News)

As Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull flies back to Australia following a meeting with US President Donald Trump, the White House has clarified Mr Trump's comments calling Australia's universal healthcare system "better" than the US system.

Mr Turnbull flew out of New York after a breakfast meeting with business leaders, including billionaire Michael Bloomberg, following his 45-minute private meeting with Mr Trump on Thursday.

The meeting happened almost three hours late after Mr Trump postponed it to remain in Washington while a bill to overturn much of former president Barack Obama's signature healthcare law passed the House of Representatives, a move further away from a guarantee of universal coverage.

The US leader raised eyebrows when he told Mr Turnbull shortly after the bill passed that Australia had "better health care than we do".

But the White House has since clarified those comments, saying the US President was simply saying nice things to an ally and did not think his country should adopt a similar approach.

"The President was complimenting a foreign leader on the operations of their healthcare system. It didn't mean anything more than that," White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at a news briefing.

"I think he believes that they have a good healthcare system for Australia. What works in Australia may not work in the United States," she said.

Of course the Australians have better healthcare than we do --everybody does. ObamaCare is dead! But our healthcare will soon be great.

Mr Trump also tweeted on Saturday that "everybody" had better health care than the US, but the system would "soon be great".

Independent scorekeepers at the Congressional Budget Office have not yet analysed the bill passed on Thursday.

But they estimated an earlier version would have led to 24 million fewer Americans with insurance coverage than under current law.

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VIDEO: Trump delays meeting with Turnbull to spruik 'a great plan' (ABC News)

Turnbull hails 'history and strength' of alliance

Mr Turnbull described his meeting with Mr Trump — the pair's first meeting since a testy phone call over a refugee deal struck by the Turnbull Government and the Obama administration — as very positive.

He said North Korea, the Islamic State group and global trade were all discussed.

"We talked about the relationship, the alliance — we talked about its history and its strength," Mr Turnbull said.

White House officials said the US-Australia refugee deal still stood, but remained a "raw nerve" for Mr Trump.

The pair also attended a gala dinner commemorating the 75th anniversary of the battle of the Coral Sea, while white house and prime ministerial staff also met separately.

Mr Trump said he would "absolutely" visit Australia as President, with a possible window in November when a series of leadership summits are scheduled in the region, but no dates have been set.

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why couldnt you Yanks have a similar system.......

i just dont get it ??????


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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

why couldnt you Yanks have a similar system.......

i just dont get it ??????



Good question with complex answers: 

a) this would put the US private health insurance business out of business!  These are some of the most powerful corporations in the country, who employ tens of thousands.  Aetna, Blue Cross, Humana, etc. would fight to the death to prevent single payer. 

b) we would have to tax the rich to pay for this, and they seem to run the whole show over here.  Trump's revision of the Affordable Care Act hands a massive tax cut to the wealthy.  

c) the American drug companies, who provide most of the advanced drugs worldwide, would not like it either.  They have us by the throat, since other countries like Australia negotiate deep discounts for access to their markets.  American consumers foot the bill.  

We do have an excellent "single payer" prototype in our Medicare system, and if they offered Medicare to anyone with a pre-existing condition, it would go far to help right the ship.  However, I don't think we have a chance of doing this without a new administration.  

Frustrating for sure! 



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The people who thought the ACA was too radical would probably view a single payer system as being akin to all-out socialism, carbon. It would take a huge shift in people's thinking to accept it.

 And as Chuck said, it's become a huge business over here, and the healthcare providers and their friends in Washington would fight tooth and nail to prevent the US from adopting a more efficient and cheaper system along the lines of Australia, the UK and Canada. They effectively managed to demonize all three in many people's eyes when Obamacare was first being proposed.

 This is the problem right now - you have groups like the Freedom Caucus who clearly don't understand (or care about) the consequences of having access to healthcare denied.





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very odd for a Good "Christian" country wonder what the good Samaritan  would think ??

and why always the Socialism thing,surley a good health care and social walfare system means 

LESS CRIME....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

less people in jail =less cost of imprisonment=less people hurt through crime,

here in Australia the cost of locking up a juvinille is 

$600,000  a year , an adult ,a bit less ....

it just dosnt add up.....

pay wealfare 

it just makes Economic sense.........

well it does to me 

but im a socalist.......and an athiest....Darwin is my hero, im a real baddy,

oh and both my kids married  people of different races........so i got brown grandkids....

LOL 

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 love the divercity and different opinions......

AND I LOVE AUSTRALIA......for the same reasons.....






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I'm not a socialist.  But, I could probably be described as a bit pink around the edges.

Your point is a valid one, Carbon.  People only usually do things that help themselves.  The political movers and shakers take that into consideration.  

For instance the heavily taxed rich often move elsewhere and if you rely on them too heavily for your income, you end up out of pocket.  But if that taxation is not too ornerous, the effort of moving is too great and you can continue to benefit to a smaller extent.  Besides why should anyone try to earn large amounts of money only to have to give it up to help a waste of space?

But an inclusive healthcare system helps everyone.  It can drive the costs down because the suppliers have only one purchaser to impress and the pressure to keep their only customer is huge.  It removes a gigantic burden from the security services working within the country.  There will still be junkies breaking the law to feed their habit, but no one doing an armed robbery to fund their families treatment for "legitimate" illnesses.

In other words, there is a center ground that can keep both sides happy and you just pointed out where it lies.  Sadly I cannot see America occupying that space: as JD said there are too many vested interests manipulating the voting system.  I am so happy I live here, I am glad for you too, Carbon.  I do wish I could help some more of the US's folk though. It is both a sadness and a shame.
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