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    Posted: August 02 2014 at 11:11pm
So what is everyone working on this month? Last month I felt I did nothing in the lines of prepping. I had good intentions, but got nothing done. I really feel like I should be doing something, but I'm not sure what, lol?
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I'm keeping an eye on Ebola and intend to stack it high and deep in my basement.
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Been working on water and pet preps, this month mainly. Everything else is just cycling through old preps and rotating.
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Haven't been around in a while and got pretty lax in my prepping. This month I'm working on rebuilding protein supplies, like pb, canned meat, and instant beans for my in town apartment. I've never put too much effort into sheltering in place, I always intended to bug out to the family farm, but with ebola potentially in the mix I may just want to stay put. For some reason it scares me more than previous threats.
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Seems like cost of everything is going through roof. Every week when I go to the grocery store the prices seem to just keep going up on just the basics...milk, eggs, OJ, bread, meats(we don't eat a lot but the little we do is a lot of $)Of course fruits and veggies too. I wish I had a green thumb. I kill everything I try to grow. We are in SW Florida now and the summer sun seems to burn everything. Our lemon and orange tree are not doing so well. We planted it when we moved here about 4 years ago. They seem to be stunted but not dead.
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Originally posted by RedTea RedTea wrote:

Haven't been around in a while and got pretty lax in my prepping. This month I'm working on rebuilding protein supplies, like pb, canned meat, and instant beans for my in town apartment. I've never put too much effort into sheltering in place, I always intended to bug out to the family farm, but with ebola potentially in the mix I may just want to stay put. For some reason it scares me more than previous threats.

When/if it gets here bugging-in is proably the best bet, but if you could get to the farm BEFORE it does that would be the best place to bug-in.  Any chance of taking your job with you, or taking a realy long holiday?  If the answer is no: then working out when to split might be a good move.  Once its here, you are right, staying put is better.   If it is here and starts to spread many public offices will close and you may only end up taking a very short holiday if you time it right.

We are already on a farm (tiny and non functional yet but with private well) but have timed prep plans:  When to get animals in, when to bug-in, when to close communal doors (house can be divided) when to lock all doors, when to fill water containers,etc..

Once its here and spreading, bugging in becomes the olnly viable option.
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We've been canning like crazy! Mostly tomatoes and salsa. We bought a dehydrator this year and we're going to try dehydrating potatoes and different types of fruit. This fall I'll try making jerky.
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Sounds good Arirish..Ya..we have a dehydrator and did a lot of onions and Zucchini chips last year...Winter squash looking great! Hubbard squash,spag,butternut squash, and acorn...Froze a lot of zucchini and peppers already..Have fun
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Oh yes and we froze some cucumbers!!


How to Store Cucumbers


Cucumbers are available in stores year-round. In the home garden, they generally are harvested in late spring and the summer months. Cucumbers most available are the slicing variety and are eaten alone or added to salads. Cucumbers do not freeze well but can be kept in the refrigerator for short periods.

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Brush off any dirt if harvesting cucumbers from your garden. If you are purchasing from the store, select cucumbers that are firm, deep green and not wrinkled on the ends. Do not wash. If left alone on a shelf at room temperature, cucumbers will start turning soft in one to two days.
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Place the cucumbers in the refrigerator, in a low humidity drawer if possible. They will remain fresh and crisp for up to 10 days. They are still edible after this, but they will be soft.
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Wrap a partially used cucumber tightly in plastic wrap or place in a sealed bag or container. Cucumbers will keep this way for up to 10 days. You may have to cut off the end on the side that was previously cut since it may be soft.
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Pickle cucumbers. Certain varieties work best for pickling (e.g. gherkin), however, any kind can be pickled. There are many different recipes and methods to pickle cucumbers, but according to the University of Illinois Extension, an easy way to pickle cucumbers without special equipment is to first peel and thinly slice two quarts of cucumbers and one medium onion.
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Add the sliced cucumbers and onions with one tablespoon of salt (table, kosher or canning) in a bowl. Cover with plastic wrap and wait two hours.Then, drain the excreted water from the cucumbers and onions in a colander and put them back in the bowl.
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Mix, in a separate bowl, exactly 1½ cups of sugar and ½ cup of white distilled vinegar. Pour over the cucumbers and stir together.
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Place the mixture in a freezer-safe bag (remove excess air) or in a freezer-safe container. Freeze immediately. You can eat your pickles in just three to four days. Use within a year.

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Last week we made 4 quarts of Bread and Butter pickle chips and soon we're going to try dill chips! This has been a strange year, normally by now we're using water from our barrel system to water the garden and praying for rain! This year we haven't watered once! Also, I can't remember a year when the peaches ripened this late. I've never harvested apples and peaches at the same time!
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I wish I could just go to the farm, to be honest, but the lengthy drive from there back into town to take my college courses would be a huge financial setback. At this point, I'll be keeping my eyes open for signs that I should just load up and go, but ultimately I'd like to have supplies laid in at both locations on the off chance that my husband and I wind up separated for some reason. If we do make it to the farm, I'll be easy enough to load up a lot of what is here to take with us and still leave a small stash for desperate neighbors. If we stay in place I think it would be optimal to have at least a 3 month supply of everything, and that is what I am working towards. 

Canning sounds like a good next project, anyone got any good recipes for zucchini? I have heaps this year, and it would be nice to save some. I might also be making a trip to the farm to harvest the wild plums to make the best jelly ever. 
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Wild plums...  Now I am realy jealous.  Plums don't grow very well here.  Wild ones used to grow near where we lived in Norfolk.  They were delicious.  Ever tried cherry-plums (myrobalan)?  mmmmmmm!
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Stop already! Our plums didn't make this year and we're out of the jelly and preserves we made last year! Store bought is just not the same!
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We have two different kinds where I am, small red ones, and some larger (but not the size of a regular storebought) reddish purple variety. I prefer the red ones, seems the pits come out easier and they provide a nice tart taste. 

Arirish- If you're close to the bump in the road named Leslie, there was a roadside stand on the highway that had plums last week. Might be an elevation thing for you as AR has some interestingly diverse terrain, so maybe you can get your hands on some somewhere nearby? 
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RedTea- Great trout fishing over that way but too far for plums! Our little town has a farmers market and I keep looking there! I've never seen a wild plum before. Are they truly wild or left over from an old home place?
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These are the red ones, and they are truly wild: http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=e830

The more purple kind I'm not sure about, but I remember my dad saying that they might have been a transplant from somewhere else. My family has owned the property since settling it in the wagon trail days, and he didn't know of anyone planting or tending them. Either way, they grow well here and they taste good! 
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I google imaged them! They look great, wish I could find some. On a different note, our Elder berries are almost ripe! There aren't enough to make wine but we might get a quart of syrup!
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Zucchini - I know someone who sliced his zucchini lengthways, nice and thinly, and then dried the strips so they were still bendy, and then smoked them until completely dried. When he wanted to eat these, he fried them and said that they tasted very similiar to smoked bacon. 

I haven't tried this or tasted them, so I'm only repeating what I heard. Sounds interesting though.

I had great success drying mushrooms last year. I sliced mine because they were huge, and laid them on my wire baking racks and put them in the bottom oven of our woodstove with the door left ajar. They were bone dry after 2 days. I store them in big glass jars and we've been enjoying them all winter. 

I also cooked off some of the mushrooms in butter and froze them but I have to say the drying was much much better and this year coming I'll dry all of them. The mistake I made last year was to pick over a few days and them dry, by which time the early ones were slightly less than fresh and a bit slimey. This spring and fall, I'll dry a few every day.
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In light of the Ebola scare, I am going to stock up on disinfectant later this week. I've a have a good amount in stock but there's no harm getting more. I'm also going to check on our face masks and goggles. I have enough for all of us but my children have a habit of walking off with the goggles.
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don't forget your pets !

food,meds,cat litter,flea control etc .


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KiwiMum said- "and then smoked them until completely dried"

Do you know what type of wood they used? I'd love to try this but when smoking the type of would is very important!
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:


don't forget your pets !

food,meds,cat litter,flea control etc .





Working on my pet preps this month, Satori! :)
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Arirish, he uses either apple or hickory, depending on what's available. The method is: slice zucchini into lengthwise strips as thick as your little finger. Peel one edge but leave the other edge to be the bacon rind. Soak in brine for an hour or so then string them up to dry. When dry but still bendy, smoke them. I guess the amount of smokiness / time in the smoker is a personal taste issue.

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KiwiMum- SORRY! What kind of brine? Salt? sugar? Both? I'm really into this right now. We built a small smokehouse last year and I'm trying to see what can be preserved via smoke, sugar cure, salt cure and dehydration. My Gran Dad had a smokehouse and did hams and bacon. I wish I'd been older and paid more attention
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School is starting soon so I will be buying more freeze dry vegies and meats. I will have some room in my basement so I will start back in gathering more food.

I am also doing this because I think food is going to get really expensive in the next 10 years. So it pays to buy now.
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Salty brine. I had a real shortage of zucchini last season, but tons the year before. I might try it myself next summer.
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With all due respect FluMom, it's already gotten expensive! Just a couple three years ago a big rack of country style spare ribs cost $4.00. Now it's like $15.00! Some things have held pretty well for a very long time but most has already gone way up. A couple years ago I was making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and I'd get so mad I'd quit eating! Now I'm not making squat except savings and most everything has doubled in two years. Luckily I used to buy and store a lot of food. And I mean half of a big moving truck full. Only a lot of it is beginning to go bad. My dad has again as much only his is much older. At some point I think it becomes overkill. I now vehemently refuse to eat the oldest stuff. Though I suppose if Captain Tri... Captain Falls arives on schedule...
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Ribeye at over $10.00 a Lb? It's no wonder rustling is coming back! Be ready to protect your herd when the stores run out! I have several good hemp ropes!
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Canning meats,soups,and veggies, meals in jars. Dehydrating beans, meats etc. Working on getting a Life Straw Family 1.0 water filter,and purification tabs.
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I have a zillion peaches off my tree which I am not sure what to do with. I sliced some up and put in freezer bags. But I still have about 60 in my refrigerator so I looked up some recipes for muffins, cake and cookies (none of which I need, lol).
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Make a cobbler, Penham :) Yum.
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I have 2 pear trees loaded down but they are not quite ready. I will slice them and can preserves. Have done so in the past but not in the last few years. I was calculating how many 5lb bags of grits it would take to feed 10 people breakfast for a year. 60 and that's just 1 serving. My folks eat double servings. All my H5N1 food is old now.
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Penham, sliced and dried peaches are delicious and very versatile. I love them snipped up into muesli. If I can find them for sale here, they are usually very expensive so really worth doing your own. 
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I've more pears than I've ever had before. We normally make pear butter with part of them and pear wine with most but this year I have twice as many as normal! Can you post a recipe for preserves? Anyone else have any ideas what to do with excess pears? I hate to give them to the chickens, they get enough of the wind falls!
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LOL, onefluover, I don't eat much because my son is in college. I do lots of salads and not too much meat.

I purchased 135 rolls of TP, 5 cases of water, batteries, 3 gal oil, Alcohol, Peroxide, paper plates bowls, Band-Aids, and more laundry detergent. I will be going over even more things I need this week and getting them.

Learned something new GREAT FACT: Had full 5 gallon water jugs that were not used for 7 years. Went to get them filled with fresh water. The guy there told me a man brought in 10 year old full water jugs and they tested the water...IT WAS STILL GOOD!

So I filled my jugs got new caps and plan on keeping them for at least 5 years before I fill again. My husband always used this water we have a cooler for these bottles. I am going to sanitize the cooler and cover it for future use if needed. I have a holder for these big jugs so it is not a storage problem.
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To make preserves you must have the hard sandy textured pears. They are not good to eat off the tree and the soft ones that are good off the tree turn to mush when cooked. If you have the wrong kind you might find someone with the other type and trade. Just peal,slice and cook in a little water and sugar. Lots of sugar. Cook until pears are clear and a little rubbery. They smell wonderful and will turn a little pink. Spoon into hot sterile jars and boil jars maybe 10 min to get a seal.
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I was given a jar of pear and ginger jam last year and it was delicious. There was just a hint of ginger - I think it would be really easy to overpower the pear. They must have used the soft pears for this as there were no real lumps of pear in the jam, just the hint of what once was a lump. It was really good. You could try to google the recipe. 

If you have perry pears (smaller and harder than dessert pears) then you could juice them and make perry, which is the pear equivalent of cider. I absolutely love perry, it's much better than cider in my opinion. You can't make perry with dessert pears. 

I've just looked up pears in a book I have on growing your own food and the author recommends juicing excess dessert pears. He says you can't juice them in the normal way or even with a press. Instead you must gently heat them. And I quote:

"Put all the chopped bits in a big, deep, covered pan and gently heat it up. Overnight they become a small quantity of bits floating in a lot of clear juice, which can be strained off and bottled or frozen. Or it can be slowly boiled down to a pear concentrate, which can be frozen or kept in the fridge. Pear concentrate is less acid than apple concentrate, yummier, more like maple syrup and so easy to use in desserts, cereals and so on."

He also says the above method is very good for using up the cores and peelings of pears that you have used for other purposes.

I hope that helps.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

I purchased 135 rolls of TP


If you ever get low on toilet paper due to self isolation, then use a bunch of old wash cloths for TP. Save the paper for #2, and use the wash cloths for #1. The TP will last longer that way.

You might also save some of those pesky little phone books that we keep getting. Those pages are thin enough, but you shouldn't flush them.
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Whether it's a timing co-incidence or not, but I went into local dollar store the other day to get more of their hand sanitizer (they carry 2 here - one is really high alcohol content, the other barely makes 60% cut if it does - it used to say on bottle and doesn't anymore so guessing not) and they were OUT. Out of both good and poor in big sizes -only had a handful of travel/purse sz left!

So across the parking lot to WalMart and guess what - no hand sanitizer and for bleach they only had a few big bottles left, quite a bunch of smaller ones though, and their water shelves were almost empty!

So... it's been incredibly hot here this summer which could account for the water, but the other two - was the truck late or co-incidence or...?? If this empty now - imagine what it will be like when the first cases break out and panic ensues...

And then yesterday I saw something I've never seen before - and older Asian fellow was riding his bicycle with a surgical style mask on... weird. Anyone have any ideas why someone would do this...???
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Looks like people get it.
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Newbie1, I shop in our local chinese quarter quite often and I've seen a few people in masks over the last year. I asked one shop keeper that I know by sight why she was wearing a mask, and she said it was because of hayfever. I'm not sure if I believe her or not but that was 6 months ago and she hasn't been wearing it since. Maybe it's a cultural thing. 

I'm going to check our stock of masks, gloves and goggles today. We keep dipping into them for other things and I haven't bought any in the last year. 
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just a little useful info


Use-by, Best-by, and Sell-by Food Expiration Dates



http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-kitchen/use-by-and-sell-by-dates/#more-30065


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Thanks for the info. I'm going to pass this along to some folks I know.
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