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    Posted: June 27 2019 at 3:26am
this is dreadful

The number of deaths from the flu has spiked 800 per cent higher this year, with 36 fatalities recorded in Health Department figures released on Tuesday.



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Where is that graph from, Kilt? It looks terrifying, but without an area of source it is meaningless.

If that is national and Australian*, it is a fairly common spike and may not be statistically significant. If it is local and in the Northern hemisphere, it is very significant and worrying.


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Western Australia

The other lines show the last flu seasons - this is dreadful - a crisis

https://thewest.com.au/news/public-health/wa-flu-deaths-spike-800-per-cent-in-horror-season-ng-b881240641z
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REPORTED FLU DEATHS SINCE JANUARY 2019

* NSW - 57

* VIC - 48

* SA - 44

* QLD - 38

* WA - 36

* NT - 4

* ACT - Fewer than 5

* TAS - 1

(Source: State and territory health departments)

There have been more than 220 reported flu-related deaths and more than 100,000 confirmed cases across Australia, with warnings the worst is yet to come.
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Well I had coffee this morning with a friend who is a doctor and she told me that the flu season here in NZ is terrible and it hasn't peaked yet. She said that she had patients coming in to see her with full blown flu who had had the vaccine. The type of flu they are seeing is A H3 N2 and she assumes it's started to mutate which is why the vaccine isn't always effective.

The flu season should peak in August here.
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The figure for Western Australia seem horrible, but they come from a very low basis. For the whole of Australia the flu numbers are up, but not quite the factor of the above graph.

follow link in https://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-surveil-ozflu-flucurr.htm to find the full report: Australian Influenza Surveillance Report No 04 - 03 to 16 June 2019
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Thanks Kilt. That explains a great deal....... -And yes, this does look like it is possibly significant after all, despite my previous comment.

A new mutation on the previous strain also looks more likely. That would reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. It is unlikely to make the vaccine completely worthless, but it may make it only partially effective.

I only hope the powers that be in the vaccine industry are already on this one.
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Hey all! Do we have any Australians in here or can we reach out to people we know to find out more details? This is concerning to me and I think we need people on the inside to give us updates!
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Aussie here
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Originally posted by EdwinSm, EdwinSm, wrote:

The figure for Western Australia seem horrible, but they come from a very low basis. For the whole of Australia the flu numbers are up, but not quite the factor of the above graph.

follow link in https://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-surveil-ozflu-flucurr.htm to find the full report: Australian Influenza Surveillance Report No 04 - 03 to 16 June 2019


look at the graph and compare it to the last few years
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Over 200 dead as Australia braces for peak flu season

CANBERRA (XINHUA) - The death toll from Australia's flu season has passed 200, with the authorities warning that the worst is yet to come.

According to data released separately by Australia's six states and two territories, at least 228 people have already been killed by the flu and more than 100,000 have been infected compared to only 58,824 in 2018.

"We're having one of our worst seasons so far... we expect the peak will come between July and September," Richard Kidd, chair of the Australian Medical Association Council of General Practice, told the Australian Associated Press on Saturday (June 29).

"Influenza is nothing like the common cold, it's serious and can be lethal."

More than 100 deaths and 49,000 cases have been reported in New South Wales (NSW) and Victoria, Australia's two biggest states, since January alone.

In South Australia, where the population is approximately one-quarter of the size of Victoria, there have been 18,500 confirmed cases of influenza and 44 deaths.

"The flu season is already making its impact felt around the country, with more patients presenting to NSW emergency departments so far in 2019 than in any other six-month period," Vicky Sheppeard, NSW's director of Communicable Disease, said in a statement on Friday.

The outbreak is happening despite more than 11 million people having being vaccinated against the virus under a programme subsidised by the government.

James Day, a 43-year-old Victorian man, had the vaccination but died from the flu only one week after being diagnosed, leaving behind a wife and a young son.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/over-200-dead-as-australia-braces-for-peak-flu-season
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that link hasn't worked either time I tried it Kilt
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works for me

Over 200 dead as Australia braces for peak flu season

CANBERRA (XINHUA) - The death toll from Australia's flu season has passed 200, with the authorities warning that the worst is yet to come.

According to data released separately by Australia's six states and two territories, at least 228 people have already been killed by the flu and more than 100,000 have been infected compared to only 58,824 in 2018.

"We're having one of our worst seasons so far... we expect the peak will come between July and September," Richard Kidd, chair of the Australian Medical Association Council of General Practice, told the Australian Associated Press on Saturday (June 29).

"Influenza is nothing like the common cold, it's serious and can be lethal."

More than 100 deaths and 49,000 cases have been reported in New South Wales (NSW) and Victoria, Australia's two biggest states, since January alone.

In South Australia, where the population is approximately one-quarter of the size of Victoria, there have been 18,500 confirmed cases of influenza and 44 deaths.

"The flu season is already making its impact felt around the country, with more patients presenting to NSW emergency departments so far in 2019 than in any other six-month period," Vicky Sheppeard, NSW's director of Communicable Disease, said in a statement on Friday.

The outbreak is happening despite more than 11 million people having being vaccinated against the virus under a programme subsidised by the government.

James Day, a 43-year-old Victorian man, had the vaccination but died from the flu only one week after being diagnosed, leaving behind a wife and a young son.
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It works for me too Roni. Some browsers add their own prefixes to web addresses - and can occasionally get it wrong.

Try copying the address and and pasting it into the search bar.

Here it is again:


http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/over-200-dead-as-australia-braces-for-peak-flu-season

The system here seems to automatically turn addresses into active urls. I typed the urls instruction myself in an attempt to remove whatever bit of the system's instructions your system collided with. I don't know if I succeeded. If not try copying from www to season and adding the rest yourself.

and here it is without the automatic urls www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/over-200-dead-as-australia-braces-for-peak-flu-season


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The link worked for me.

Do you have to get your Australian flu news from a Singapore Newspaper?

The links I have found are good on giving numbers of flu cases and hospital trips but they ignore the number of deaths. When the swine flu hit Finland the authorities at first published daily updates including deaths, but decided that was causing too much panic and so they went silent on the deaths until after the flu session was over [they stopped before reaching half way point].   So when I can't find the death rates I get concerned about what is being hidden
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I got that one to work but the previous one for me doesn't work both times he posted it showing the low bases or whatever. No worries, just wanted him to know. thanks all!
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Sorry Roni, I can't get that one to work either.

I noticed that web addresses often end "html" (I don't know what it means, but it is common) and this one ends htm.

Methinks: "Aha! I know what is wrong there." I didnt. If you copy and paste the url into a search bar with the l added you get on to the right site, but the page is gone.

This does beg the question: "Why did the Australian government D notice it."
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Not much being said here in WA,

i don't know anyone who has had the flu, some have had bad colds....
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