bird flu hoax?How One Wicked Nation Can Kill Billi

    Mach & njsgt

Snuffie wrote: Mach  and MJSQT,   Thank you for your intelligent posts.  I don t say much  and post little.  People believe what they want to.  Mach, you said it all when you said you had spent too much of your time on crasy comments.  America will never be beaten from without. I fear it will be from within by people who for whatever reason cannot see the danger faceing us.  THINK ABOUT IT. a foe who is b rain washed to kill innocent people along with themselves is something to take sirious.

Snuffie,

I agree. the biggest threat are the traitors from within. The mall shooting in Salt Lake City was done by an immigrant from Bosnia. Bosnia has a very high Muslim population. ( used to be higher before the attempted genocide that we helped stop)( did we get any thanks from any Muslims for stopping the mass slaughter of Muslims in Bosnia...NOPE) I will put money on the very real possibility that the shooting in the mall was a terrorist act by a radicalized Muslim. But we will never hear that on the news.

I'm not an engineer. By college degrees are in the Information Technology field. BUT, i did start my college career as a student of engineering, and did so for a couple years before changing majors. I understand the principles of load bearing structures, shear points, impact forces, and such. God knows, the physics of those forces, calculating them, that is, always gave me headaches.

God Blessed Texan with His own hand. I heard that somewhere

Well its good to know that their are still people out there that think outside of the box! If a few individuals in the government were in cohoots with any incident or does screw us either by accident "man made"
or concealing facts and information from us, do you think they would be honest about it and tell us? How would we ever know? Maybe we should never question and just have faith that what we are being told is the truth, like Iraq. While everyone has their own opinions, it sure is nice to know that we all aren't sheep. My intentions were never to offend or attack anyone here.
I am sure there is some corruption and manipulation on all levels of government but thats classified. Everyday its getting harder and harder to know what to believe. Yes I do believe preping and communication is good for any crisis, we must all help each other find the right path Right? Anyway all my opinions. Thanks for the feedback!

I dont explain anything I leave that to Conspiracy nutbags

FictionWriter wrote: Mach? Did you read my post on the members only section?

FictionWriter,

I just did. I didn't know that section even existed. I spend too much time on meaningless arguments. Thanks for the kind words. I used to love making that sound, but it is a young mans game.
    
    

wow..I just found this site about debunking WTC controlled demolition theory. It's a good read for anybody that wants questions answered.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Judy,

Very eloquently said.

 

mach wrote: Nobody, It was extablished that the shear force of the impact of the planes flying over 500 miles per hr and weighing over 200,000 lbs blew the fire retardent( which is an insulation that is sprayed on) off the steel load bearing structure. The fire from 40,000 lbs ( 6,150 us gallons) of jet fuel burned in a relatively small wind fed space weekening the steel bearing load structure causing the structure to collapse upon itself. The tower that was hit lower down collapsed first,even though it was the second tower hit, indicating the amount of weight on the weakened structure was a factor. But the main point to disprove that theory is in the video. Both buildings began the callapse on the floor that the aircraft struck. If someone had placed demolition charges in the building, do you really think anybody could fly those jets into the buildings at over 500 miles per hour and hit the exact floor where the charges were placed? And if they did, do you think the charges would have stayed intact in that immense explosion and fire resulting from the impact. Of course not. The charges would have exploded or burned when the planes hit the buildings, not 15 to 30 minutes later. It takes hours to place charges to demolish a structure, there is no way anybody could have placed charges after the impact, and we already talked about the charges not being able to survive the impact, so I can't see how anybody can possible believe that theory after looking at the facts.

The person posting as "nobody" is obviously seriously mentally ill. Just ignore him.  I saw the planes hit both buildings. I saw the raging fires that could easily melt steel supporting beams. Then I saw the collapse of the buildings.  The weight of one collapsing floor in a structure like that was enough to cause each successive floor underneath it to collapse. If you watched it and saw the speed that the upper floors came crashing down, it was amazing that some people in a stairwell actually survived.  The ground shook so violently when the building came down is was amazing that all the building for a block around did not collapse from the vibrations. The jolting and shaking was earthquake like.

Geez, spare me my dad was ranting about the "New World Order" back in the 80's, if they haven't figured out how to take over the world in 20 years I don't think it's going happen.

Judy wrote: Mach: Appreciate you much. Thanks for the intelligent posts. Thank you for who you are and what you are.   njsgt: Thank you for your wonderful post about patriotism. I am also very tired of other countries putting down America, her government, and her citizens. I grew up in a small town and went to a small church. Everyone knew everyone and none of the little ones could "get away" with anything since the neighbors and even the store owners acted as surrogate parents and the phrase "I'm gonna tell your mama" really carried some weight. But as I got older, it was easy to see the way a rumor or gossip could spread like wildfire and the next person would feed the flames as they passed it along, and usually the beginning of it was nothing more than supposition and an agenda to see the other person done in for whatever petty reason floating around in the gossip's head. The internet is a very useful tool to spread gossip with malicious intent and there is plenty of it about America and how wicked we are out there, most of it by enemies who would like to see America fall and people who are gulled by it and pass it along.   Jane and Nobody: No government is perfect. Mostly because you can't please all the people all the time, and you would be a fool to try. I have been upset by some of the things happening here off and on. But as an American I have the right to disagree with whatever I choose to disagree with and still be a law abiding citizen. Our president has tremendous responsibilities and has far more information about what is going on in this world than the rest of us would even dream of and I wouldn't want his job for anything.  However the world chooses to see President Bush and the citizens of this country as idiots, he is still My President and this is still My country and I'm dam glad to be American and don't want it any other way. What other country would you prefer to be running America if we throw in the towel and say " If you think you can do a better job, be my guest."?   Circle the wagons.

     

Originally posted by guest

   
    I heard this
Is there any truth to this or is this BS?

   2002 an "underground" health seminar in Texas. A speaker told the audience to prepare for something called the "bird flu". The government already had a vaccine ready for the sole purpose of mass experimentation of nano-technology. It's microscopic robots that can perform certain tasks at will via radio transmissions. Also could be gps, mind reading-control, who knows what. But it does exsist, just go to MIT's website and look at the thing they brag about. _____________________________________________________________

Saw a post above about 'evil' nano-technology.

mr. nobody you dont have clue what went on at the trade centers. This is also a bird flu site, stay on track.

   I spotted Elvis the other day 

I saw big foot being carried off by aliens, but they had an American flag painted on the side of their spaceship so I guess it is true that we have made "deals" with them. We get their technology, they get to eat big foot for lunch. As an extra bonus for our side, big foot doesn't get to eat US. It's no wonder big foot hides out so well; they've known about this conspiracy for years and years.

4thegirls: Thanks for the laugh.  You inspired me...but I have to confess that I didn't really see that. I got it from books and from articles on the internet, but not all at once, just bits. I had to figure out the truth for myself.

Originally posted by Mach: "There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of that day, the lose of life, and the heros that were fireman, cops, crew, passengers and just people that woke up and went to work. I'm sure that most of the hero stories will never be told, because most of the heros died being heros, while nobody was watching. "

You just told their stories; you told them for all of us.

FictionWriter- First of all thank-you for your kind words. You summed up alot of us (in the public safety sector) quite eloquently. My world is very black and white and I don't believe in lying to my family, my patients or to save my own butt. This is not even about religious standards, but about values. I'm no hero and respectfully decline any tokens that say I am. The media ALWAYS gets the event wrong. I know when I've gone above and beyond and thats good enough for me. When I got into my chosen profession years ago I did it for the fun, the money and the glory. Well after a very short time I found out that you make your own fun, there is no money and the only glory is in the eyes of your peers, (when they say the the simple words "you done good"). It's not about modesty, its all about honesty to ones self.

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Nobody: I think you miss the  point.  We do not believe everything the government tells us. We disagree with and are often angry about things that go on in this country and abroad.  We voice our opinions and are allowed to do so without having our throats cut. But no matter how much we might disagree, disbelieve, and complain we will still stand back to back for America against those who would want to bring her down. We are not just called America, we are the United States of America.  If we are so gullible, why is it we do not believe all the conspiracy theories? And why do you find it so hard to believe that there are other explanations than the ones offered by inflammatory websites? It seems to me that you want to blame our president for a lot of things wrong in this world but you need to take a longer view of what is happening on a global scale and then tell us what you would do to solve the problem of preserving America for Americans as if you were an American, not as someone who would not have to live with the consequences if all fails. We are aware here of mistakes and Americans have spoken out, not just with our voices but with our votes. But in the view of a lot of us citizens here in the U.S., we have been too "politically correct" for too long and the world views us like a redneck views a woman: bring me my stuff, hand over your paycheck, be nice sweet thing, I only slap you around for your own good, sit down and shut up! Our newspapers here could tell you that even nice, obedient redneck women can get fed up with the bull and that's when tshtf. President Bush is not a god, he is just a man with serious responsibilities and having to walk a fine line between world opinion (no matter how low it is, it could get a lot worse real fast) and doing his job.  We don't think of him as infallible, but he is our President and our Commander in Chief.