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Obviously, I'm going to have to spell this one out.
I am an A-m-e-r-i-c-an. That's right folks, heaven forbid, an American whom doesn't live in the good ol' USA. Blasphemy in some small midwest and southern towns. "Your" president, is unfortunately, "my" president. Though I don't really consider him to ever have been a legitimate president. Something along the lines of over 300 million people and vote recounts in his brother's realm pretty much assured that a skunk is a skunk. Truth be known, I haven't voted for a US president since Ross Perot... for that very vote rigging reason. (A texan, oddly enough). "President" Bush is a not even a man. He's a criminal. Ask yourself this... from a mathematical perspective... What is the mathematical probability of the son of a former US president, with 30 year old business links to the Bin Laden family (some even staying with him whilst in Texas), successfully mounting a bid for presidency, and after numerous recounts of vote in his brother's Florida jurisdiction, winning the presidency by a still unverfied margin figured under the "1,000 persons" mark... And as president... pursuing a Bin Laden whom no one has ever properly verified as being alive at any time since before the invasion of Afghanistan? In the meantime, this same "president" drums up patriotic devotion for an invasion of a totally unrelated country which had nothing to do with a 9/11 which had been and has continued to be warped and censored in the press.... by stating that "aluminum tubes" are a sign that "Weapons of Mass Destruction" exist... UN Weapons inspectors scoff at the idea, even American UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter. While this is all happening, the CIA is kidnapping suspects from every country under the sun, with the timid help of any country unlucky enough to be fingered, "terrorism suspects" from all over the world are held in detention against their human rights and civil liberties as the White House reinterprets the Bill of Rights and the courts say nothing... Ask yourself this... What are the chances? This "spread of evil" you speak of, Judy.... Look in your own backyard. You bought it hook, line, and sinker like everyone else did. My family and old friends... I argued with them... asked them to question what they were ingesting so easily... But they were too bone stupid to do anything except enlist in the armed forces and glue pathetic ribbon stickers on their cars shouting "ra ra ra, nuke those towelheads" So I told them.... Told them a little story about a small nation full of peasants and farmers.... lorded over by a distant empire... I told them how many of those peasants were called in effect "terrorists" for refusing to engage the empire's soldiers on the battlefield, instead choosing to wear neutral colours and hide behind trees with their rifles... Oh, were these terrorists scum... At least to the great and mighty, freedom loving, and refined/sophisticated empire. The scum went on to frame the declaration of independence, Bill of Rights, Preamble to the Constitution, and Constitution of the United States of America. Well I told them good and proper.... that the founding fathers (or scum) would be rolling in their graves if they could see what their esteemed nation would turn into eventually... The very same "civilized" "freedom loving" "enterprising" colonial occupation force which got it's butt handed to it for being a pack of ****heads. And you know what they said back to me? heh.... "Love it or leave it" one of the most ignorant catchphrases to ever leave the lips of lambs. Face it folks, the US is no better than any other nation on this earth. Rant and rave till you turn red, white, and blue in the face. Quite frankly, I don't give a rat's flying ring piece. |
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ENOUGH,ENOUGH, YOU ARE HURTING MY EARS!Try living in a 3rd world country for a while..THEN say what you will. If you have done this and you still say and believe, all that you have said is what you believe and all the talking in the world will change your thinking. And Thank God we live in AMERICA a place that we can say what we believe, be it right or wrong. You should thank your lucky stars.
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Nobody, I had to comment. I could write a post as long as yours to dispute your comments. Instead, since we are no better then any other country here are just two thoughts for you. If you lived in Iran or Saudi Arabia would you feel sfe making those comments about the countrys leaders? Secondly if the U S is no different then all the other countries why are their citizens trying to get here. Solution for you, join the Marine Corps. On second thought, please dont.
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NOT...
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Judy
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Nobody: To set the record straight here: I am a registered Democrat. I did not vote for Bush. He is still my president. I am glad you are American, because I've always loved Australia, and which sort of explains your vehemence on this subject, point proven about America's voice. I did not approve of sending troops to Iraq, as anyone in my family could tell you. I do not feel we can win a 'war on terrorism' because there have always been hate filled murderers and always will be, but that does not change the fact that there are some very nasty people out there screaming "Death to America." And they Are terrorists, unless there is a new definition for the word, and I do hope we can stop some of them, and as many as possible. I withdraw the questions and will delete them since you are not representative of Australia and sincerely apologize for the uncalled for remarks that should never have been said,no matter how provoked, no excuse. The rest of my above comment stands and was not addressed by you, Nobody, fellow American.
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Nobody,
My apologies sir, I had no idea you are a US Citizen. So, as a citizen, you have a rights. The right to spout nonsense and BS to all who will listen. Not many countries give their citizens that right. You have the right to keep and bear arms. How many other countries allow their private citizens to be armed? you have the right to express your religion as you see fit, the right to read any newspaper, and the right to believe in anything you choose.
Tell me sir, just how many other countries give their citizenry these rights? Those men who wrote the Declaration and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they might have been scum, true, but they brought about the downfall of an Empire that spanned the globe. An empire that didn't treat its citizens at all well.
I'm registered as an Independent, but i tend to vote towards the Republican side. And for the record, the first time I voted for a President, it was for Ross Perot.
I don't have to go far to visit a 3rd world country. It's just around the corner from my home, maybe twenty minutes away. A country where one political party ruled for over 70 yrs, where private citizens can't own guns, where having even one round of ammuntion in your possession is an automatic jail sentence, where one can bribe any official and get away with it, where if you speak out against the party in power, well, maybe someday, they'll find your body.
I'm grateful to be an American. Cliche, maybe, but very true.
I don't believe the 'love it or leave it' attitude is stupid though. It implies a choice. A choice that many in other countries don't have. One of those freedoms that we hold so dear.
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Nobody,
Believe what ever lunacy you wish. Ignore the fact that Bin laden declared war on the US while Clinton was president. Ignore the Bin Laden tape where he laughs and takes credit for 911. Ignore the footage of Muslims the world over rejoicing when seeing the live footage of 911. Ignore the attack on the USS Cole Ignore the Train bombings in Spain and the UK Ignore Saddam's use of nerve gas against entire Kurdish villages Ignore the invasion of Kuwait and the UN resolutions that Saddam ignored Ignore the US embassy bombings Ignore the USMC barrack bomb in Lebanon Ignore the death threats against people for publishing a cartoon. Ignore the taped be-headings of civilian workers taken hostage in Iraq Ignore Pan Am over Scotland Ignore the launching of rockets into Israeli towns. Ignore the attempted assassination of President Bush senior by Iraqi forces after the first Iraq war. Ignore the muslim schools where they teach young children to hate and kill Americans. Ignore that muslims around the world are on record of working to destroy the US Ignore the first WTC bomb Ignore all the stuff I'm too tired to list. What are the mathematical odds that all that stuff was just a coincidence and had nothing to do with 911 Ask your self this. Which is more plausible given all the things I just mentioned. 1. GWB planned an inside job to destroy Manhattan, the pentagon and some other target in DC and probably 10 other targets while he was away in FL and had lots of other Americans involved in this big bad conspiracy to kill US citizens to justify going to war so Haliburton and oil companies could make lots of money or, 2. Muslim terrorists are really trying to kill us. I'm glad you left. Don't come back, you don't deserve this country and you don't deserve to be associated with the brave men and women that fight for your right to voice your lunacy. PS. I just forwarded your anti-American comments from this forum to the FBI. Your comments about the President could be interpreted as a threat. I hope they put you on a watch list so you can stay in Australia, assuming they don't kick you out. |
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I don't know why I keep getting logged out. The last guest post above is mine dammit.
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I just got yelled at by my wife for wasting my time arguing with idiots.
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YEAA!!! WHAT HE SAID!!!!!!
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mach what goes around comes around
well I just want to say to Nobody that like your honesty and I like you healthy life wisdom good luck and God bless you I'm leaving this forum because I dont like people reporting on others to FBI we are not living in communist Russia and it is not nice to use your mucsles and build fear in others. |
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"...I just got yelled at by my wife ..."
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take her out...
(to a restaurant Mach :)
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anyway... nobody wouldn't last one day in that poor little Kingdom of terrorists.
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??? What's this about the FBI? ETA: Oops, didn't read. |
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I'd say that Mach, as a former member of our nation's military, would have an obligation to report threats made against the President of the US.
In this post 9-11 era, words such as those uttered by Nobody are enough to get him listed on some database.
Hell, man, i KNOW i'm listed.
Course, that could be because I applied for work at the CIA and FBI
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I didn't report anything to the FBI. Just trying to make a point. Do you really think the FBI hunts down all the loons?
What was my point you ask? The point was to point out the paranoia in these conspiracy nuts. We have had senators call the president a criminal, hardly a threat. besides, the FBI has computers that scour the internet for threats, just like the way google catagorizes everything on the internet. |
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Your point was to focus on a dissenting point of political view, which you've labeled "paranoia"... and all posted under the banner of a message board which the majority of westerners would deem extreme paranoia, Avian Flu Talk.
While I'm not suggesting that AFT as a themed message board is in any sense or manner paranoid, surely you can see the great irony in this all. By the way, Fictionwriter... we're ALL on databases and have been so in varying degrees since the 80's. I'm happy to drop this, and get back to prepping talk and news reels.. Can I get the motion seconded? |
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Hell yeah nobody.
Why not just back down and accept it when someone attempts to bully you on here. So Mach, you happily make empty threats regarding the FBI to people whose posts you don't like? Strange that people have happily extolled the freedoms of America and yet in the same thread there is a real big brother feel when the FBI were mentioned. Which is it to be freedom of speech or is it merely the freedom to say what you have been spoonfed? All looks a bit suspect from here. I may go dig up the wmd's at the local hardware shop |
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I 2ND. That,I can care less about political views of the people here.We all have our own and we all know we are right so it should be dropped!!!
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Unconcerned,
Threats of calling the FBI or any other security agency over someone's opinion on the internet are rather comical.. and weren't taken seriously. |
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Motion has been seconded by dannykelley.
Is that enough, or does it have to be thirded? (sp) |
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Nobody
I have read this thread thoroughly, and have taken great exception to Machs bullying tone throughout. I know that we are nopt obliged to agree with each other, but there was absolutely no neccessity for the sort of comments regarding your mental state either. They were personal attacks, with no basis whatsoever. I appreciate that you may consider yourself to be mild-mannered and reasonable, but you are looking like a pussy. |
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Unconcerned,
If a small child ran up to you, called you a duty head, and proceeded to suggest in every way under the sun that his family were mobsters and they were going to pay you a visit, unless you gave him a piggy back ride... What would you think, what would you say, and what would you actually do? Children need to be nurtured, in my belief.... regardless of their temperment. |
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I third the motion.
I have to admit though, I rather enjoyed it. One last point, I hardly consider a threat to call the FBI a threat, when there could easily by FBI agents as members or active guests on any internet forum. Why they would be wasting their time is beyond me. Actually, Why am I wasting my time. and for the second part of the last point, and for the record, we weren't talking about differencing political opinions. The opinion at the heart of the discussion was that GWB and the owner of the WTC and the NYC fire chief were all in cahoots to blow up the WTC for some agenda. That just isn't a political opinion in my book. OK OK , I'll third it again. I'm done. Nobody, I didn't really mean it, come back to the US anytime you want, I'll even by you a beer. |
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Alright, Mach...
There isn't much I wouldn't do for a beer. (Just don't quote me on that last bit ) |
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I suppose that's tit for tat, I call you a loon and you can me a child.
I'll have you know that I've been called worse. |
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Sorry, I just had this visual of trying to stuff an entire juvenile into a tin can. And the label... what would one print on the label to that? lol |
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I would label it 'DANGER, OPEN AT OWN RISK"
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PS. The reference of a juvenile stuffed into a tin can relating to me in an airplane did not escape me. I must admit, a clever insult.
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Fourthed!
Anyone have a fiver? |
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Mach, don't sweat the small stuff. I've noticed that the people that complain the loudest about the USA are the one that have done the least, for the USA. They just don't understand that some things are just worth fighting for. They also don't understand the communism is evil and doesn't work. But those that have never put anything but their opinion at risk will never understand that.
But if they want to trash GWB I let them. In my opinion Bill Clinton is evil incarnate. I use to say it would surprise me that if you shave his head you would find 666 there, and 333 on Hilliary's. She is only haft evil. I'm not so sure of that now. Maybe they both have a 6 and a 3. When combined they are total evil! Grandma freedom of speech does not absolved you from responsibility for said speech. Actually I think Nobody set a good example. If they don't like the USA MOVE!!! |
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Fiver, Nobody.
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If ignorance is bliss, what is chocolate?
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Six, Judy... Six..
I shall stay the path, if my name isn't Josiah Crabunkle! (although it's difficult to stay aloof of the baiting) |
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amen brother!
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Have you ever had a thought that wasnt fed to you? Have you ever had, just one tiny thought that was entirely your own and didn't involve your bodily functions? mach come back...there is a nutter here after all and it's a really dangerous one! |
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Nobody,
Ya know, that was the point of my post...at some point everyone is on a database somewhere, so why sweat it? Everyone enjoys a good spirited debate, hell, i love them, particularly when my debate 'partner' can spout intelligent original thought, rather than repeating some drivel heard somewhere.
My hat is off to you for not going overboard. First round is on me. Hope you like Shiner beer.
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Fictionwriter,
I have an aversion to imbibing armadillo urine. Just this once |
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I like a good spirited debate myself.
I don't mind the odd spot of flaming (see my above post), but I don't like people who deliberately pick on the mild mannered. Don't give me the 'nobody doesn't mind' rubbish, because he does, just like he minded when they did it at school and passed him over for promotion (I'm right here aren't I nobody?). He stands up and has an opinion and is denounced as a looney and threatened with the FBI? poor show. |
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unconcerned,
I'm the oldest of 5 brothers, 3 of which have served or are still serving in the armed forces. It's not like I haven't heard elsewhere the kind of rhetoric found in this thread. It doesn't bother me that others have differing opinions, but I do appreciate your kindness in sticking up for us "mild mannered" types.. I was served a bit of angst, threw out a few subtle barbs myself, and we're all still standing here... having a chuckle about it. And I recieved two free beers from near complete strangers... You obviously have strong feelings about Avian Bird Flu, otherwise you wouldn't be devoting such time reading the forum like everyone else feels compelled to do. What are your opinions on the subject, and what preparations if any, are you making and or have made? You probably have a different outlook from the Australians and Americans about Avian Flu, being in the UK and all. ***buys unconcerned a Cascade Lager*** |
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You will never know. Freedom of speech is a double edge sword. For the record I wasn't baiting anyone. I was just expressing my opinion to a fellow brother in arms. I am impressed with what Nobody did. It took courage. I would have been more impress if he had gone to N. Korea or Iran. But still he stood for his convictions. I think other should also. I may not agree with him, but I respect him [Nobody] more than some waste of breathing air that is sitting on their thumb complaining about their country, as they suck down whatever social program that is supporting them, or chewing on the silver spoon that someone else work for. As I said just my freedom of speech. The truth does cut deep. It usually bring forth irrational personal attacks. |
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Mind you, Wolfgang, I'll be voting in the next presidential election from a consular's office.
We can cancel each other's votes out. |
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I wasn't going to say any more here, |
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That works for me!!! |
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Armadillo? ick! That's just, eww gross!
Ok then, How about you pick the beer and I pay? |
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This thread is all about the bird flu being a hoax put up in a conspiracy by Jews to kill billions of people.
Its rubbish
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