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I was going to say something,,,,,,, but I wount right now.   how ever if any of you think your preferd  governmental way of  thinking is the best way to think,    well your probley not right .   If any one wants to start a thread on Religion, I would probly say something about that.

May the Force be with you       hehe
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whats the point ,you are what you are and I dont need to tell you what that is.You Know dont you??Have a good life where ever you choose to live it!
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This thread seems to have ran away into some weird monstrosity..

I think I've tried to personally boycott it twice already, with limited success... Hopefully, the insults will subside and we can get back to prepping talk... It is after all something we mostly agree on..


Third times the charm?

Can I get an Eighthing?
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Nobody: You sound like a very bitter person, you are full of poisonous venom and you are just looking for someone to bite.  You make your hateful, spiteful comments and then you call a truce, like oops, I think we should stop now. When I meet people like you at work or elsewhere I avoid them like the plague, because they are just looking for someone to be nasty with and make it look like someone else's fault.  You pretend to be a lamb when you are actually a wolf.
 
I am also beginning to think you are a troll.
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Originally posted by Judy Judy wrote:

Nobody: You sound like a very bitter person, you are full of poisonous venom and you are just looking for someone to bite.  You make your hateful, spiteful comments and then you call a truce, like oops, I think we should stop now. When I meet people like you at work or elsewhere I avoid them like the plague, because they are just looking for someone to be nasty with and make it look like someone else's fault.  You pretend to be a lamb when you are actually a wolf.
 
I am also beginning to think you are a troll.


Judy,

with all due respect to your comments, contrary to probable opinions, I'm not a bitter person. Though I do have a streak in me which gives as good as it gets.

I apologize for some of the spite I spat back. It's never pretty being attacked, or attacking, though it's a human trait... sometimes heralded sometimes chastised. Depends on what side of the fence you're on when the comments take flight.

I have strong opinions which sometimes don't always correlate to the man or woman at large. It stems from an ecclectic upbringing and the ensuing perspectives such a life brings.

But for every contrary or odd comment you believe me to be making, we're in agreeance on a dozen or more other comments.

Such is life... diversity in perspectives, sometimes shared, sometimes not.

You may look at what I said towards Emmy or Mach as irreverant, or downright evil, but can you place yourself in my shoes when I read their comments? 

 I left the States and entered the world... from continent to continent, I never looked back for what I may have lost, for the gain was monumental.
I became a nation in my own right, with my own constitution, bill of rights, and values.

Reading Mach and Emmy reminds me of who I wouldn't be if I didn't cast fear and apprehension aside, and take the plunge into humanity.

If that's the definition of a troll, then build me a bridge and I'll be sure to never get over it.

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Originally posted by Judy Judy wrote:

 
I am also beginning to think you are a troll.


What a horrible thing to say!

I have just had a whole group of trolls ruin a board I am on, and to say it was unpleasant is an understatement.

Nobody is nothing like they were


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All this talk of the fine american troops fighting valiantly for freedom...

..neglects the fact that most of them are poor blacks that the US seems to want rid of anyway.
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Now THAT is a truly horrible thing to say.
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Truth is never pretty especially when it has been hiding for years under the skirts of patriotic hysteria.

Now where did I put those weapons of mass destruction?
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Nobody,this is one time I will agree with you!!!
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We all have our weaknesses, dannykelley. Tongue


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Maybe you put the wmd's in Pakistan. They are talking about them this morning. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-22-pakistan-missile_x.htm?csp=24
Have you read anything at all about what is going on in this world of ours except for what makes America an evil nation? Are you even interested in knowing the truth? It's not a quick read, and I'm not talking about U.S. news feeds. Do you even know why Pakistan and India are at odds with each other? Give you odds ten to one, you don't even care.
 
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Watching India and Pakistan gear up, is like reading about, and eventually watching first hand, the Cold War.

Though, thankfully for the Cold War rivals, religion was never entered into the mix.
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I adore the little Cock dance they do for each other at the border gates each day...

...looks like Cleese developing the funny walk skit.
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Originally posted by raggedy annie raggedy annie wrote:

All this talk of the fine American troops fighting valiantly for freedom.....neglects the fact that most of them are poor blacks that the US seems to want rid of anyway.


That is not a factual statement. The racial breakup of the military mimics the racial break up of the country, more or less.

I will agree the the lower income of all races do make up the bulk of the enlisted ranks. But to imply racism is not justified nor accurate.

Another FACT from the National Institute of Justice. Blacks commit crimes against whites 800 times more than whites commit against blacks.     

They ALL are fighting valiantly for freedom.

But by you alls way of thinking Saddam would have made a good Democrat. He does reminds me of Bill Clinton. We will just ignore the hundreds of thousands in mass graves, I believe the number is over 500,000. Lets forget that he use WMD's to kill thousands of Kurds. (Gee I wonder why we and the WORLD thought he had WMD's.) Lets forget that he was shooting AA missiles at coalitions air craft on a daily bases. (That included UK and Aussie aircraft as will as US.) Lets forget the 17 UN resolutions he violated.

It was stated that 60,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq. But who is killing most them? Is the US using car bombs with chlorine in markets places or schools? Is the US kidnapping bus loads of people and using chain saws and drills on them? Is the US hiding behind women and children as they shoot and set up ambushes? Is the US hiding in the Masque to set up ambushes?   That OK, be on their side. Women get your bourka ready. Forget working or going to school. If your husband gets mad don't worry. He can't beat you with anything bigger around than his wrist, or his shoe, or pour acid or you. Be on their side.

People love to trash the US. What country gives more charity than the US? They made fun of Bush sending an aircraft carrier to the tsunami area. But what would have been better? It's a mobile airport that has approx 7000 people and can process 1000's of gallons of potable water. Besides who did we move out of the way? I didn't see other countries tellings the US to move out of the way. The US has been carrying the load for the WORLD since 1944. I would be more than happy to bring ALL our troops home, close the bases, keep all the food and aid to handle our own problems. Any other country willing to step up????

Some people will never feel that ANYTHING is worth fighting for. During my youth the phrase was "Better red than dead". What they don't understand is the surrender has NEVER gain freedom, only slavery. Ofter these people, to hide their own fear, they demonize, trivialize those that will fight. Yet they don't mind using the benefits wrought by those that have fought.

Most people don't respect what they are given. That includes their country and freedom. I think a mandatory "draft" would solve that, for men and women. NOT a military draft. They would be given a choice of military or FEMA service. The FEMA service could be used to help in disaster areas, fixing up the parks and thing like that. It will never happen, but it would give the youth of this country a since of "belonging".

You want to descent? Be my guest, it's your right, at least in the US it is. You want to use propaganda or insults, expect to be called.

For those who have family members in harms way. May God bless and protect you and them. Thank them for me.           
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What you said, Wolfgang. Thumbs UpClapClap
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Damn!!why didnt I say that!!!!??ClapThumbs Up
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Wolfgang,
 
My hat is off to you, friend.
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Few here want a state of war, declared or undeclared.
The war isn't about WMD's.
Please think beyond that.
It's all about being a... presence... in an area of the world that has some leadership born of
the ways and religion of tribals.  A vastly different way of life and thinking from birth.
Call it a Police Presence if you will.
Some may not have realized it yet.
We have gone Global.
The world is a small place now.
As if the man next door gets sick, moves into your livingroom, sneezes and handles everything...then become enraged because you watch PG movies and don't pray the same,
then he becomes jealous, your wife adores you and is not fearful and she comes and goes, to top it off, he blows up your new car to show you he is mad.
Now...in order that that never happens twice, you decide that no one will ever again move into your livingroom and blow up your car.
All his angry jealous kind in the neighborhood say they are headed for your livingrooms no matter what.
So you and your buddies "Go Global" and take turns sitting in the middle of them
to police their actions.
Otherwise your livingrooms are not safe.
Who in the neighborhood is against it?

ps... a new angry jealous guy just moved in a few blocks away.... 

He makes explosives for a living,

he says he only wants to use them for fireworks on Holidays :)

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Wolfgang,

Amen brother.
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    I think we should discuss the conspiracy to make us all believe we can set quietly at a computer and communicate to people all around the world via a so called "INTERNET"

Isn't it obvious the Jewish Conspiracy, International Banking, and Giant Pharmaceutical Companies have conspired to keep up helpless? What harm can we do to their plans while we waste away quietly sitting in front of a screen tapping a keyboard?

There is no need of restraints, prison guards, or barbed wire. The energy saved in having to control us by other means is probably going to be used to heat the planet.

The lie that is known as the digital age is the greatest slave master of all.

I'm going to take my all natural herbal medication now. Please continue.
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I have to go easy on my passion flower tea...
 
They used to say that about tv... opiate of the masses.
 
I think corporate slaves have the greatest slave master of all.
 
How many hours a week do Americans work? Vacation time?
compared to Europeans?
 

 
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Dispenser 4 hir,

I always that the greatest slave maker and keep in the dark occupier was professional sports myself. You can add TV and canned beer to that. too.
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Originally posted by mach mach wrote:

Originally posted by emmajones emmajones wrote:

    These guys aren't worth wasting my time and energy on anymore.


Emmajones,

your right. it's not worth wasting my time talking to someone that has no compassion. I'm done too.

nobody,

feel free to dribble all over yo.... I mean drivel with your self.
    
 
I'm with Mach. 
 
Nobody's comments in this thread and his perverted thread about sex with children have just gone too far.  Your name is appropriate and I'll not waste my time on reading anymore of your bs.  And I'll not care if you don't give a ---- about my opinion of you.
 
How about we get back to the point of  AVIAN FLU TALK and surviving a  pandemic.
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   ok - i said my opinion earlier and now i'll add to it. lets face it - nobody is an *** hole. he makes me sick and i will no longer come to this thread wasting time while i read his crap.

emmajones - God bless you and your son. i'm proud of him as i am all those who serve this country so bravely for all of us. the US fights the good fight, we are the good guys on the block not the bullies. I hope your son comes home safe soon.

mach - amen brother!
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I truly hope that in the unlikely scenario of a fully fledged pandemic, a certain handful of you in this thread languish to premature expiration in your dehydrated stocked pantry chapels...

Some of you would have to be the most ignorant, obtuse, and downright paranoid sorts I've ever met in my entire existance.

If these same people represent Christianity, then bring Allah on is what I say...

The two lots of nitwits can slaughter one another and the rest of the sane well adjusted world can experience a few thousand years of peace, love, and acceptance.


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njsgt,

your right. and reading and responding to such is a waste of my time. I won't be responding to or reading anything he posts. complete boycott.

I have changed my post to take back the name calling. It was a lapse of my better judgement. Other people have quoted it, I can't change that.

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Sure thing, Yankee Poodle... works for me.

I tire of your assinine approach to logical reasoning, and above all, your gross hypocrisy.

If you took with the flu, and it in it's feathery arms it took 8 days to claim you as mulch.... it would be 8 days too late.

That's not me being an asshole.... It's me being completely truthful.


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Originally posted by njsgt njsgt wrote:

emmajones - God bless you and your son. i'm proud of him as i am all those who serve this country so bravely for all of us. the US fights the good fight, we are the good guys on the block not the bullies. I hope your son comes home safe soon.



Thank you njsgt. I'll pass your message on to him.
    
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emmajones,

While I don't see the US military as the world's knights in shining armour, I also wish your son a speedy and safe return. It's a shame that those who wish only to serve their country have instead, been forced to serve a corrupt administration.
    
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Originally posted by Nobody Nobody wrote:

Sure thing, Yankee Poodle... works for me.I tire of your assinine approach to logical reasoning, and above all, your gross hypocrisy.If you took with the flu, and it in it's feathery arms it took 8 days to claim you as mulch.... it would be 8 days too late. That's not me being an asshole.... It's me being completely truthful.

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horrid thing to say ,,,for shame
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Originally posted by AnnHarra AnnHarra wrote:

I believe the moon has an effect on people... the land..tides etc.
(no I don't believe that silly astrology in the newspaper)
 
I have noticed that when the moon is in Aquarius people are very gabby...
Guess where the moon is today?
 
When it is in the sign of cancer... all seems to go wrong.
 
I have been checking it for a few yrs..... eery...
 
 
AnnHarra, I thought you might like to know (perhaps you already do), that the moon is in Cancer again. And aren't people most gabby when the moon is in Gemini? That's where my moon sign is.. LOL
 
Ok, it's time to be serious and get back to the Latest News. General Discussion is just too Censored distracting!
 
 
Open your eyes people!
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The reality is this:

1 A new virus emerges from the guts of wild ducks
2 That new virus is spread all around the globe by migrating birds
3 That new virus is spread to domestic poultry
4 That new virus mutates to humans in a pandemic influenza.

All that has happened except 4

The following stages are thus:

A bird to person infections
B person to person infections in small clusters
C person to person infections in numerous and longer clusters
D sustained person to person transmissions of the virus in a pandemic.

All of those have happened except D

The flu pandemic is imminent because Influenza viruses mutate because they are classified as a Mutant Swarm which mutates 1 million times faster than any other virus.

One virus infects one human cell and the virus replicates and produces 100,000 new viruses and each one is a mutant.

The pandemic is imminent and each human infection brings us closer.

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Kilt,

I wasn't aware that 'C' has happened. What clusters has it been longer. I am aware of numerous, though not convinced the clusterees didn't have the same exposure, but have the clusters gotten longer? There is one I am aware of that went to 8 or 9, is that the one? Are there more than that one?
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And aren't people most gabby when the moon is in Gemini?
That's where my moon sign is..
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hi Polly... as far as I know the gabby sign is Aquarius...for the moon's
effect on everyone....no matter their personal moon sign. 
 
 
 
 
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Mach there was also the one in Turkey - 5 members of the family all H2H
 
so the clusters are becoming more numerous
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Originally posted by AnnHarra AnnHarra wrote:

And aren't people most gabby when the moon is in Gemini?

That's where my moon sign is..

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hi Polly... as far as I know the gabby sign is Aquarius...for the moon's

effect on everyone....no matter their personal moon sign. 

 

 

 

 


Ann you are so right, anybody that works in the public service field will tell you that full moon night are wild. Some times everybody loves everybody. Most of the times everybody hates everybody. What ever the mood, on full moon weekends buckle you seat belt, you are in for a ride.
    
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Originally posted by justducky justducky wrote:

Hey Hemlighet
Sweden sure is a shining example of how to handle things. What has Sweden ever done for the world? Have fun with your muslims, asswipe.


MALMO, Sweden — Swedish authorities in the southern city of Malmo (search) have been busy with a sudden influx of Muslim immigrants — 90 percent of whom are unemployed and many who are angry and taking it out on the country that took them in.

"If we park our car it will be damaged — so we have to go very often in two vehicles, one just to protect the other vehicle," said Rolf Landgren, a Malmo police officer.

Fear of violence has changed the way police, firemen and emergency workers do their jobs.

There are some neighborhoods Swedish ambulance drivers will not go to without a police escort. Angry crowds have threatened them, telling them which patient to take and which ones to leave behind.

Because Sweden has some of the most liberal asylum laws in Europe, one quarter of Malmo's 250,000 population is now Muslim, changing the face and the idea of what it means to be Swedish. Asylum seekers may bring spouses, brothers and grandparents with them. Civil servants say the city is swamped.

"You have 1,000 students in a Swedish school. How many are Swedes? Two," said Lars Birgersson, principal of the Rosengrad School.

Students arrive at age 10 or 12 from countries like Iraq, Iran and Lebanon with no knowledge of Swedish; some have never been to school at all and many classes require interpreters.

"They are not a part of Swedish society, so to speak. It is difficult for them to get inside society," said Torsten Elofsson of the Malmo Police Department.

However, they are the most rapidly growing segment of Swedish society — outsiders who are already inside, posing a challenge to legendary Swedish tolerance that has now been stretched to the breaking point.

Malmo's main mosque was recently set ablaze by arsonists. When firefighters arrived on the scene, they were attacked by stone throwers.
    

    

Nice copy and past of an article from 2004. Your point? Don't have one? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Originally posted by Kilt Kilt wrote:

Mach there was also the one in Turkey - 5 members of the family all H2H
 

so the clusters are becoming more numerous


your right I forgot about that one. There are H2H clusters in more than one side of the world. I think it is easier for me to be in denial
    
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he is gone with the rest of them, finally
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Just don't believe everything you read....  I'm seeing new things popping up about myself on a daily basis.
 
Remember, this is just a forum and we're all here to prep and to monitor the panflu threat.  Nothing more nothing less.  I'm not sure why there are so many people out to discredit us, as this sort of behavior really isn't that typical in other types of forums.   You guys wonder why we don't work with other sites??  In a panflu, the people who are currently gone from this site will remain gone.   
 
 
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thanks. it really doesn't matter what is true or isn't true. This is a good forum for exchanging ideas and helping each other out
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