Blackout

More and more we are seeing a focus on what was labeled conspiratorial and Tin Hat. This is not new news and yet the film makers have now latched on to what were secret documents and are making movies.  The knowledge of this threat has been with us on the net for more than 6 years.  It has been stated a blackout would not last a few days. It there were a real hit on the grid, it would last from 6 months to a year. 

Yet, as will be released on the net as I have found my original manuscript, even a ten day scenario would create a serious but classically fixed scenario as in  Jack Bauer 24-hours script.  The infrastructure always wins.  The terrorists are apprehended, and as the last minutes of a 49rs football game -used to be- they would win.

The Superbowl however with a power blackout which was a bit to explain, changed things. The 49rs did not win. So possibly in the next real life hit, it will be very hard to restore it.

Thanks for the link and will be sure to watch the movie.

Meclinician

OMG...watching it now...people will be in trouble just like they are showing!!!

People living in the city are in big trouble if they have not prepped. Condos...LOL you can't prep enough because you don't have any room!!

Will talk later...have to watch!

watching it now, I don't like the whole blair witch project way of documenting. it kind of annoys me lol

Mustang Sally2,

Power substation attack revealed, more reason for solar power decentralization

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/28/1265802/-Power-substation-attack-revealed-more-reason-for-solar-power-decentralization

'Military-Style' Raid on California Power Station Spooks U.S.

http://complex.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/24/power-station-military-assault#sthash.HHHGqLAS.dpbs

"It is clear that the electric grid is not adequately protected from physical or cyber attacks," Waxman said. He called the shooting at the the San Jose facility "an unprecedented and sophisticated attack on an electric grid substation with military-style weapons. Communications were disrupted. The attack inflicted substantial damage. It took weeks to replace the damaged parts. Under slightly different conditions, there could have been serious power outages or worse."

""These were not amateurs taking potshots," Mark Johnson, a former vice president for transmission operations at PG&E, said last month at a conference on grid security held in Philadelphia. "My personal view is that this was a dress rehearsal" for future attacks."

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FluMom wrote: Yep, that is why I have made my home as non dependent on electricity as I can for any disaster. One of these days we are going to have a real problem when over half of our country goes down due to our grid being attacked. I just wonder how long it will be down. We have pumps for our sewer and water in Colorado and it will get messy.

Flumom, I am trying to make sense of this thread.  The original link which I replied to has been removed.  Basically, we were due for a nationwide blackout from 6-12 months more than 2 years ago. In addition to terrorists which had the capacity to hit and take down the grid with 6 people and some manure four years ago, we have violent weather, and an overloaded grid which was supposed to be addressed with the synchro-phasor project and really has not been.

http://eioc.pnnl.gov/research/synchrophasor.stm

I address these issues in the "When the Lights Go Out" chapter in Pandemic Now. The circular hit on the New York Loop which cascaded into the south, left New York in a state of chaos and disorder after only a few hours.

A hit on the grid would leave people without functioning gas pumps, and most hospitals and emergency areas even with generators could not  sustain themselves that long.  The power packs on hospital ventilators,  iv pumps, and much of what provides backup would be exhausted probably in six hours.

Without lights, police would be unlikely to go into districts where officers could be taken down and vitals resources and manpower be exhausted.

One thing is for sure; one should have a flashlight in a known place so they won't be groping around in the dark and the power out could last many months and be very hard to restart if the systems were hit by a virus or worm which could be released on the open network.

imho

Med

I believe we are not allowed this system KiwiMum but I will check it out again. My plumber who did my clean out for my waste pipe all the way out to the street told me to use this system. He said that a valve in my area would most likely fail and that the plugs were a better way to go.

It has been 5 years since I did that clean out and I need to do it again so I will check with him again this spring.

Med, there was a TV program on Blackout and how people had different ways of dealing with it. Pretty ugly what happened to some and unrealistic in some typical TV. I think Satori just picked this thread up to tell us about the attack on the substation. Will look up your book.

Elver, I have paper statements every month so I can prove how much I have in the bank. I do not believe in all this online banking crap. They want me to go paperless and I tell them no so I can prove how much I have.

I have food but will ration it from the start if any disaster happens. No one knows how long it will last. I still have to purchase seeds, need to get on that one!

FluMom wrote: Elver, I have paper statements every month so I can prove how much I have in the bank. I do not believe in all this online banking crap. They want me to go paperless and I tell them no so I can prove how much I have.

The way I get around this is to print out the on-line statements each month.  It uses as much paper as if they sent the statements, but saves on the envelopes and postage, and is cheaper (as the bank charges extra for paper statements).