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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEy9_VRejUs BPEarthWatch the closer "Maria" gets to the North Carolina coast the warmer the Sea Surface Temperature-and the stronger the storm. 

Both BPEarthWatch-models ( 3.30 in video) and long-term models indicate more storms forming http://www.myfoxhurricane.com/custom/models/gfsext/gfsext_atl_pwater.html (oct 10 Gulf near Mexico)

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS.NATLAN-CED.WS10-MSLP Remnants of hurricanes move towards UK, Norway, Greenland.

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/cat-2-maria-headed-north-will-come-close-nc-outer-banks After "Pilar" making landfall in West Mexico some of the rain may end up in West Texas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxkC5-mQus Decommissioned nuclear power plant (from 1964 still radioactive material stored inside) Puerto Rico was hit by the hurricane.


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They might not destroy the US yet, but Puerto Rico looks like it might be left out to fend for itself.

This is compounded by the high level of debt (and not allowed to use US bankruptcy rules)

All this gives an interesting dilemma for the current administration...either pay up or expect a lot of people fro Puerto Rico to move to the mainland.   Neither option seems like it would appeal to its fan base.

Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

]Puerto Rican Governor Ricardo Rosello, who is seeking federal funds, warned of a "massive exodus" without aid....

Puerto Rico is facing the collapse of its electricity and communications network as it evacuates flooded families and examines damaged infrastructure. A major dam is at risk of collapse.

Insured losses across the Caribbean are already estimated to range from $40bn to $85bn, with about 85% of the damage found in Puerto Rico, according to disaster modelling firm AIR Worldwide....

the island's debt means that it cannot borrow money for the emergency on its own.....

The island's status as a commonwealth and not a state means it has fewer advocates in Congress, which could complicate funding efforts, said Ted Hampton, a Moody's analyst.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41391045
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13NewsNow latest update on "Maria" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cGJCg-TqWA 




The 2017 Atlantic hurricane season is an ongoing event in the annual formation of tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin. The season has been very active, the most active since 2005 in terms of ACE. In addition, it is the costliest season on record, with at least $180 billion (USD) in damages, all of which mostly were contributed by the three top storms of the season: Hurricanes HarveyIrma, and Maria. The season is also one of only six years to feature at least two Category 5 hurricanes: Irma and Maria. Along with 2007, Maria's landfall on Dominica also makes 2017 the second season on record to feature two hurricanes making landfall at Category 5 intensity. In addition, Irma was the strongest hurricane ever recorded to form in the Atlantic Ocean outside of the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Sea
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Trump appears to be blaming Puerto Rico for the damage caused by Hurricane Maria. And instead of empathizing, he's actually tweeting that they're not going to be off the hook for the money they owe Wall Street. The swamp must be happy with their new President.

http://secondnexus.com/politics-and-economics/trump-blames-puerto-rico-hurricane-maria/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&tse_id=INF_5d884810a2cc11e7897b1b4a01a12704


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PRuGvEZZyQ MrMBB333 latest; "Maria" and (cat 3 almost "Lee" ) moving over the Atlantic towards the UK-Iceland (bringing warm air to the Arctic). Puerto Rico (and many other islands) still a disasterzone-somethingh should be done NOW ! No new storms in the models.




http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS.NATLAN-CED.WS10-MSLP 10 day forecast wind North Atlantic. (In beginning of october 2 depressions mid-Atlantic)

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS-025deg.NH-SAT1.T2_anom-MSLP old hurricanes warming up the Arctic. NOT GOOD !!!


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How Many More '500-Year Storms' Will People Endure Before They Start Abandoning Coastal Cities?


http://www.alternet.org/environment/how-many-500-year-storms-must-batter-shores-coastal-residents-pack-and-leave


the very definition of insanity and STUPIDITY

One "exit barrier" has to do with a 49-year-old program called the National Flood Insurance Program. Under the current law, homeowners are required to rebuild on their land—even after suffering through multiple floods. "Through the National Flood Insurance Program, we know there are about 30,000 properties that flood repeatedly," said Rob Moore, senior policy analyst for the NRDC's water program. "On average, these properties have flooded about five times." Only around one percent of these properties carry flood insurance, reports NPR, but have been responsible for about 25 percent of the paid claims.

Jennifer Bayles, a homeowner in the Houston metro area who was interviewed last week on NPR, paid $83,000 for her house in 1992. After the first flood in 2009, insurance paid her $200,000, then an additional $200,000 following the next flood. Now, post-Harvey, she expects to receive around $300,000.


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@Satori, making mistakes again and again is insane ! 

MrMBB333 on "Maria" again cat1-moving NORTH in stead of east ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bKKYPbr3_o He earlier expected "Maria" and "Lee"to become a "superstorm" hitting the UK coming monday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3zpRPnWdNA.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 South-East of Cuba-not far from Florida-new storm forming. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29OjgaY1SK8 Paul Beckwith the disaster after the disaster.
Better preparations can limit damage of extreme weather. Power is basic for repairs, food, airco..


DJ; in south Asia the situation is far worse-but not making the headlines. Models now seem to be unable to catch up with reality. Monitoring-"now"casting more than "fore"casting. http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS.NATLAN-CED.WS10-MSLP (may be missing to much to work)



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HURRICANE Update! #NATE #OPHELIA #PHILIPPE ALL Shown In Next 10 Days!?


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"another solid month of significant storms"

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BPEartWatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV4mFlD_MQM Florida watch short term. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 NHC saterday Florida can expect showers-wind.

Satori; for the link after the link makes it a direct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCf5bnTUQro In2ThinAir (good info but 25 minutes !)

oct 1 small storm eastern florida, oct 7 bigger storm moving along the US east coast, a "disturbance"in the central Atlantic. The 7 oct storm splitting up in 3 seperate storms ? 

Coming weekend/monday western Europe can expect rain/wind from ex"Maria" and ex"Lee".

Most "news"shows have very limited time for the weather-specialized sources dig (much to) deep and play it on the safe side. You Tube gives other people a chance-some try to inform, others try to shock. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Atlantic_hurricane_season gives good evaluations, enables to compare the 2017 with the 2005 season. Both extreme-but is this proof of abrupt climate change ? Or what you can expect looking at statistics ? (Or maybe a bit of both-you need more info). 

The damage these storms bring to the already troubled-debt burdened economy of the US is very large on the long term. One hurricane effecting production for a few days every ten years a company might be willing to except-ten hurricanes in one year is simply relocation of the company. Tourism will get effected, logistics, infrastructure needs rebuilding-improvements. 
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https://robertscribbler.com/2017/09/28/a-call-for-all-true-americans-to-stand-with-puerto-rico-in-their-hour-of-need/ The people that are responsible for climate change proberbly make money with everey disaster they-de facto-created. The mechanisms in society need rethinking. https://robertscribbler.com/2017/09/28/with-indicators-pointing-toward-back-to-back-la-ninas-nasa-shows-august-2017-was-second-hottest-on-record/

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=26.2;-63.1;3&l=wind&t=20171008/12 shows 4 stormsystems in the Atlantic/Caribean, and a hurricane west of Mexico sunday oct 8. This is just a model but also a warning.
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MrMBB333 Mississippi running dry near Memphis, (or is it not the main river ? DJ) should effect grain (and other) transport, water supply etc. New storm for Florida on its way oct 7, A pacific cat 4 might move inland via Mexico to bring extreme rainfall in Arizona. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjwjUkoAxEM





http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS.NATLAN-CED.WS10-MSLP 10 day North Atlantic wind showing 2 storms oct 7 (Florida and Atlantic maybe touching eastern Canada)

The 2017 Atlantic hurricane season is an ongoing event in the annual formation of tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin. The season has been very active, featuring five major hurricanes, the highest number since 2010 as well as the most accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) since 2005. In addition, it is potentially the costliest season on record, with a preliminary total of over $183 billion (USD) in damages, nearly all of which were primarily contributed to by three of the major hurricanes of the season: Hurricanes HarveyIrma, and Maria. The season also saw multiple rainfall records being broken, especially from Hurricane Harvey. The season is also one of only six years to feature at least two Category 5 hurricanes: Irma and Maria. Along with 2007, Irma’s landfall on Barbuda, and Maria's landfall on Dominica, also makes 2017 the second season on record to feature two hurricanes making landfall at Category 5 intensity. In addition, Irma was the strongest hurricane ever recorded to form in the Atlantic Ocean outside of the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Sea.[1] This season is also the only season on record in which three hurricanes individually had an ACE of over 40: IrmaJose, and Maria.


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BPEarthWatch following several disturbences in the Caribean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2R5A4ezlE One may become a hurricane oct 7-risk for Florida, Carolina's. 

MrMBB333 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_58btVJyFa8 Flash flooding for Puerto Rico, more rain on its way. Several storms developing in the Gulf-oct 8-9 (but that is to far for any certainty-models also not telling the same story. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_XWW9CNWMU Mississippi Rivergoing dry above New Madrd fault (?) (Region had more than enough rain, link with Mexican earthquake ? Did "Harvey" bring to much rain-crack in the river floor ?)

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At least two major storms for the US to watch; http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 Carabean and http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=epac&fdays=5 (Baja) California. 


BPEarthWatch solidarity with Puerto Rico-refugees; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=losz3Ik1XA0


https://www.rt.com/usa/405571-trump-puerto-rico-hurricane-relief/ (I am not even beginning to mention the "political chaos", I have worked in childcare with 2-3 year olds that are more adult...DJ)

Models:

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=30.4;-84.8;3&l=wind&t=20171008/03 oct 8 cat 1 or 2 landfall between east Texas-Florida panhandle, Pacific storm seems to be gone in this model.

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/fcst/#GFS.CONUS-CED.WS10-MSLP also has the Baja California strong storm moving up to California gone ! (Correction https://www.ventusky.com/?p=30.4;-84.8;3&l=wind&t=20171013/12 shows hurricane south of LA west of Baja California, also Climate Reanalyzer shows it oct 13. Storms forms further west in the Pacific, I was looking at the wrong depression Southern Mexico-developing. ) 

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/calm-next-atlantic-storm climate change link-more warming = more hurricanes.

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Tropical Storm Nate, expected later today, to hit Gulf Coast as a hurricane


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article176926726.html


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article176926726.html#storylink=cpy
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13News Now; 17% of all named storms are in October https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMMpVtzjPSE&t=76 lots of good info; central American monsoon and very warm water makes "Nate" stronger, two times landfall in central America weakens it. The GFS (Global Forcasting System) and European models are showing different pathways. GFS=New Orleans, Euro is Florida Panhandle. 

BPEarthWatch also expects "Nate" to move close to west Florida and interact with the Disturbance #1-two depressions pulling on eachother (bringing lots of rain to Florida) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNOkyVZT_M  (On the extended models another Gulf storm oct 20 moving towards the US)


MrMBB333 comparing "Maria" day 1 with "Nate"day 1; Nate is bigger....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAjVBLPshdA He expects "Nate" to get to cat 3 by the weekend bringing 1 foot+ (+30cm) of rain to the US gulf coast. 

DJ; Earthquake-wise the US was eerie quiet last few days, things seem te be getting back to "normal level"? 


The Pacific storm(s) are out of the models/or getting weaker fast.


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*BREAKING* Hurricane NATE STATE OF EMERGENCY And Evacuations Begin!


STATE Of Emergency Declared in Louisiana and Florida, If not already Mississippi and Alabama will follow.


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