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EdwinSm,
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Posted: February 20 2020 at 12:42am |
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The latest Situation Report from WHO [Report # 30] contains two terms that initially seem to mean the same thing. As with many discussions that end at cross purposes one should look carefully at the definitions of words.
In my understanding if you are infected with SARS-Cov2 then you have a case of Corvid-19, so the two terms should mean the same thing. Later on in the report there is further clarification, in that for WHO whenever you read CFR you should automatically translated it to CCFR (Confirmed CFR). The following also implies to me (but it is not clearly stated) that a "case" might only be counted if symptoms show.
Lesson: While I consider WHO to be accurate in the figures that they give, they are based on a very narrow definition, and so give an inaccurate over all position. It is a clever political move that plays into the hands of those governments who what to suppress some of the data. Note: from the differences between the CCFR and the IFR quoted above, WHO is saying that the estimated actual rate of infection is between 3 and 10 times larger than the information published by China.
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carbon20
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Smoke and mirrors.......
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pheasant
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100% smoke and mirrors, they are double dipping and moving the goal post.
And still not addressing the un-diagnosed death equation. |
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Pixie
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Since the publication of modeling estimates in yesterday’s ‘Subject in Focus’, one research group (Ref. 12) has provided a correction of their estimate of the Infection-Fatality Ratio (IFR), with the new estimate being 0.94% (95% confidence interval 0.37-2.9). This replaces the lowest estimate of IFR of 0.33%, but remains below the highest estimate of 1.0% (Ref. 11). |
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Pixie
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If .07% and.23% is smaller than a CFR of4.06% what does this revision to .94% imply? Methods: We employ statistical methods and publicly available epidemiological datasets to jointly derive estimates of transmissibility and severity associated with the novel coronavirus. For estimation, the daily series of laboratory-confirmed nCov cases and deaths in Wuhan City and epidemiological data of Japanese evacuees from Wuhan City on board government-chartered flights were used. Results: We found that our posterior estimates of basic reproduction number (R) in Wuhan City, China in 2019-2020 is calculated to be as high as 7.05 (95%CrI: 6.11-8.18) and the enhanced public health intervention after January 23rd in 2020 has declined R to 3.24 (95%CrI: 3.16-3.32), with the total number of infections (i.e. cumulative infections) estimated at 983006 (95%CrI: 759475-1296258) in Wuhan City, raising the proportion of infected individuals to 9.8% (95%CrI: 7.6-13.0%) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v1 ************************************************************************************************************* . We also found that most recent crude infection fatality ratio (IFR) and time-delay adjusted IFR is estimated to be 0.07% (95% CrI: 0.05%-0.09%) and 0.23% (95%CrI: 0.17-0.30%), which is several orders of magnitude smaller than the crude CFR at 4.06%
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CRS, DrPH
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They all mean the same thing. In the US, we use "case fatality rate" more than "case fatality ratio," but they are the same. Being a confirmed case is implied.
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