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China Investigates SARS Like Pneumonia Disease

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Wuhan pneumonia outbreak: Mystery illness 'caused by coronavirus'

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Scientists believe they may have found the cause of the mystery pneumonia that has infected almost 60 people in the Chinese city of Wuhan since December.

Preliminary tests indicated the illness may be caused by a new coronavirus, lead scientist Xu Jianguo told the official Xinhua news agency.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) had also said a coronavirus could be to blame for the outbreak.

So far, 59 cases have been reported, seven of which are considered critical.

Mr Xu, who is leading efforts to identify the cause, said they had found the "new type" of coronavirus by testing infected blood samples and throat swabs collected from 15 people.


With seven in critical condition this is serious,
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No news from China whatsoever. Nothing on people recovering, nothing on new cases, ZILCH.   China will no long release news unless they lose containment, such as with Sars. China is the cesspool of the world for spawning new diseases... but transparency is not their gig.
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No news from China whatsoever. Nothing on people recovering, nothing on new cases, ZILCH.   China will no long release news unless they lose containment, such as with Sars. China is the cesspool of the world for spawning new diseases... but transparency is not their gig.


I agree, Boss. African Swine Fever Virus will break out eventually to US herds, as did porcine epidemic diarrhea (one of my contacts in US Govt told me that the porcine diarrhea was likely deliberately spread in the USA by China).

When you stir-fry civet cats, bats, snakes and birds in a live market environment, well, viruses will re-assort and break out.   
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Hi Chuck, your input is always greatly appreciated. I suppose we have one more virus around now that can recombine and mix. I edited-off the last line from my previous post regarding the cats, lol. Hard to believe in parts of China what they will eat. Basically anything that crawls, and no surprise with China in not releasing news any longer. A very smart culture, yet very barbaric by many standards.   


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[It looks as if you are both right! The probability is it is a zoonosis from a bat and the lead scientist from this study did not respond to emails from the anyone.]


Mystery virus found in Wuhan resembles bat viruses but not SARS, Chinese scientist says


By Dennis NormileJan. 10, 2020 , 12:30 PM

SHANGHAI—A new coronavirus identified by Chinese scientists is the putative cause of an outbreak of unusual pneumonia in the central city of Wuhan, according to Chinese news reports yesterday. In an interview today with Science, Xu Jianguo, head of an evaluation committee advising the Chinese government, confirmed that scientists have a complete sequence of the novel virus’s genome.

The World Health Organization on 9 January requested sequence data, a spokesperson in Geneva says, and many scientists urge the country to make the sequence public quickly, but the decision is up to the top leadership of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, says Xu, who is director of the Beijing-based State Key Laboratory for Infectious Disease Prevention and Control, part of China CDC. (The center’s head, George Gao, did not respond to emails from Science seeking comment.)


Xu says the investigation is being led by China CDC but numerous groups in other government agencies are involved. “Plenty of people are working on the outbreak,” he says. The role of the evaluation committee Xu leads is to review all the findings and make recommendations to the National Health Commission. Xu also said the novel coronavirus resembles known bat viruses, but not the coronaviruses that cause severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS).


The following transcript has been edited for clarity and brevity.

Q: The virus has been isolated from one patient, is that correct?

A: Correct. Two groups isolated the virus from samples from one patient. The viruses are nearly identical in morphology under electron microscopy. Researchers did laboratory investigations of 34 patients. A total of 15 were positive for the novel virus, [based on] sequencing samples of [fluid injected into the lung and collected for examination]. The teams got complete genome sequence data from about 10 patients. They are now attempting to isolate the virus from those samples as well. There are 19 cases with no evidence of the virus. There is no information available for the results of the remaining 25 cases.

Q: How close is this new virus to the SARS coronavirus?

A: The virus is similar to some of the published viruses collected from bats. But it is not close to SARS and not close to MERS.

Q: Are close contacts of patients and market workers being tested for antibodies to the new virus?

A: [Investigators] have just gotten the virus, they now need the chance to prepare reagents for antibody tests, but there are no data yet.

Q: The 5 January report from the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission, the latest available, says a total of 59 pneumonia patients have been identified as possibly carrying the virus. Have more patients been found?

A: It should be mentioned that the 59 reported pneumonia patients in Wuhan were clinically diagnosed; of those, 15 were confirmed to be infected by the new coronavirus. No new patients have appeared, as far as I understand. It’s good news. People fear something like SARS in 2003, but this is a different case. The outbreak is limited, but we should test patients one by one [to identify] pneumonia caused by other pathogens.

Q: Are researchers trying to replicate the disease in lab animals to prove that it is really the cause of the outbreak?

A: People have recommended that [investigators] do tests to see if the virus can cause the infection in animals, but they need time.

Q: Is there any progress in tracing the original source of the virus?

A: I have no information. Personally, I’m interested, too. The virus looks like viruses isolated from bats, but how it was transmitted from bats to people is still a question. Several groups in China have been working on bat coronaviruses for years. I imagine they’re working on this but so far there is no information.

Q: Are other live animal markets being checked?

A: The Wuhan market has been closed. I have no information about other [markets]. Wild animals carry the risk of exposing people to new viruses. I think we should have more strict regulations and inspections of markets that sell wild animals, especially since the source of the new coronavirus has not been identified and eliminated.



Source:   https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mystery-virus-found-wuhan-resembles-bat-viruses-not-sars-chinese-scientist-says
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I think that this was written before the bat information

Mystery Chinese virus: How worried should we be?

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Is it serious?

Coronaviruses can cause symptoms ranging from a mild cold all the way through to death.

This new virus appears to be somewhere in the middle.
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First death from China mystery illness outbreak


Man dies in outbreak that has infected 41 people as early tests point to new type of the coronavirus responsible for Sars epidemic

Reuters in Shanghai

Sat 11 Jan 2020 05.24 GMT
January. A man in China has become the first fatality in the outbreak of an unidentified illness. Photograph: Yonhap/EPA

A 61-year-old man has died from pneumonia in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in an outbreak of a yet to be identified virus while seven others are in critical condition, Wuhan health authorities say.

In total 41 people have been diagnosed with the pathogen, which preliminary lab tests cited by Chinese state media earlier this week pointed to a new type of coronavirus, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said on Saturday in a statement on its website.

Two of them have been discharged from hospital and the rest are in stable condition, while 739 people deemed to have been in close contact with the patients have been cleared, it said.
China's Sars-like illness worries health experts


The man, the first victim of the outbreak that began in December, was a regular buyer at the seafood market and had been previously diagnosed with abdominal tumours and chronic liver disease, the health authority said. Treatments did not improve his symptoms after he was admitted to hospital and he died on the evening of 9 January when his heart failed.

No new cases had been detected since 3 January, the commission added.

The Wuhan health authority also said the patients were mainly vendors and buyers at a seafood market in the city, and that to date no medical staff had been infected, nor had clear evidence of human-to-human transmission been found.

The World Health Organisation said on Thursday that a newly emerging member of the family of viruses that caused the deadly outbreaks of severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (Mers) could be the cause of the present outbreak.
Mystery viral outbreak in Hong Kong revives fears of Sars epidemic
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Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that can cause infections ranging from the common cold to Sars. Some of the virus types cause less serious disease, while some like the one that causes Mers are far more severe.

The outbreak comes ahead of the lunar new year holidays in late January, when many of China’s 1.4 billion people will be travelling to their home towns or abroad. The Chinese government expects passengers to make 440m trips via rail and another 79m trips via airplanes.

The Wuhan health authority also urged the public to take more precautions against infectious diseases and said it was pushing ahead with tests to diagnose the pathogen, as of Friday completing nucleic acid tests.

Hong Kong’s health department said in a separate statement on Saturday that it strengthened checks and cleaning measures at all border check points, including the port, airport and the city’s high-speed rail station, which receives passengers from Wuhan city.
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In 2003, Chinese officials covered up a Sars outbreak for weeks before a growing death toll and rumours forced the government to reveal the epidemic. The disease spread rapidly to other cities and countries. More than 8,000 people were infected and 775 died.


Source:   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/china-mystery-illness-outbreak-causes-first-death
Same tale - different source:   https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/chinas-mysterious-virus-claims-first-victim
and again at: https://in.reuters.com/article/china-health-pneumonia/man-infected-with-mysterious-virus-in-china-dies-after-outbreak-idINKCN1ZA03X
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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

[It looks as if you are both right! The probability is it is a zoonosis from a bat and the lead scientist from this study did not respond to emails from the anyone.]

Mystery virus found in Wuhan resembles bat viruses but not SARS, Chinese scientist says




Well then there is a very fine line between this outbreak and SARS, since SARS is also a bat virus (coronavirus), I believe. If this is a bat virus, then it is a first cousin to SARS, or SARS itself. China has a past of covering SARS, and since they will not release the sequencing, I find it once again a little suspect.

After following outbreaks in China for the last 15 years here, their M.O is always the same....





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Yep. You know it was just a matter of time before they went silent and stopped sharing information. No surprises there.



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Dr. Osterholm has indicated that, perhaps, China is changing its tune on reporting:

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/china-releases-genetic-data-new-coronavirus-now-deadly

In quickly moving developments last night, health officials from Wuhan, China, posted a novel coronavirus (nCoV) pneumonia outbreak update, which scaled back the number of cases to 41 and noted the first death, and researchers from China released the genetic sequence of the nCoV.

And this morning the World Health Organization (WHO) released several interim guidance documents, including advice on travel, lab testing, and medical evaluation.

Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH, said he's pleased to see that health officials and scientists in China have released as much information as they have. He said the main focus now turns toward identifying the animal species that transmitted nCoV to humans and determining whether exposure to those animals poses a threat of outbreaks in other areas.
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If all info is accurate, this outbreak is officially over.   Not a bad drill, lol.

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January 12, 2020 / 6:06 PM / Updated 4 hours ago
China pneumonia outbreak not spreading at present - WHO

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LONDON/BEIJING (Reuters) - An outbreak of pneumonia that has killed one person in China and infected 40 others appears to be linked to a single seafood market in the central city of Wuhan and has not spread beyond there so far, the World Health Organisation said on Sunday.

The cluster of infections had raised fears of a potential epidemic after China said last week that the virus causing it was a previously unknown type but came from the same family of viruses that caused the SARS and MERS epidemics.

However, the WHO said the outbreak had not spread. The seafood market in Wuhan - a major domestic and international transport hub - is now closed and no cases have been reported elsewhere in China or internationally, it said.

“The evidence is highly suggestive that the outbreak is associated with exposures in one seafood market in Wuhan,” the WHO statement said, adding that the market was closed on Jan. 1. “At this stage, there is no infection among healthcare workers, and no clear evidence of human to human transmission.”

The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said in a separate statement late on Sunday that 4 additional patients have been released and that no new cases have been discovered as of Saturday.

Another 717 people deemed to be in close contact with the patients remain under medical observation, the authority said.

The WHO said last week that a newly emerging member of the ‘coronavirus’ family of viruses that caused the deadly Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) outbreaks was the likely cause of the outbreak.

Coronaviruses can cause infections ranging from the common cold to SARS. Some types cause less serious disease, while others can be far more severe.

Among 41 people confirmed as infected with the new viral pneumonia, one - a 61-year-old man with serious underlying medical conditions - died last week. Seven others are in critical condition, the Wuhan health authorities said.

The WHO said preliminary epidemiological investigations had found most cases were in people who either worked at or were frequent visitors to Wuhan’s Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market.

“To date, investigations are still under way to assess the full extent of the outbreak,” it added.


Source:   https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-china-virus/china-virus-outbreak-linked-to-seafood-market-not-currently-spreading-who-idUKKBN1ZB0LY
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[Hmmm..... Not quite, it seems]

WHO: First Case of New Virus Behind China Outbreak Found in Thailand

By Agence France-Presse
January 13, 2020 10:20 AM

GENEVA, SWITZERLAND - The World Health Organization confirmed Monday the first case in Thailand of a new virus from the same family as SARS that is behind a Chinese pneumonia outbreak.

The U.N. health agency said a person traveling from Wuhan, China, had been hospitalized in Thailand on January 8 after being diagnosed with mild pneumonia.

"Laboratory testing subsequently confirmed that the novel coronavirus was the cause," WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic told AFP in an email, referring to the new virus.

WHO said it might soon host an emergency meeting on the spread of the new virus.

The case marks the first outside of China, where 41 people with pneumonia-like symptoms have so far been diagnosed with the new virus in the central city of Wuhan, with one of the victims dying last Thursday.

The episode has caused alarm due to the specter of SARS, or Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome, which in 2002-2003 killed 349 people in mainland China and another 299 in Hong Kong, whose economy was hit hard by the epidemic's devastating impact on tourism.

The WHO has confirmed that the outbreak in China has been caused by a previously unknown type of corona virus, a broad family ranging from the common cold to more serious illnesses like SARS.

The agency said Monday it had been informed by Thai health officials that the patient there was recovering from the illness.

It stressed that it was not surprising that the virus had spread beyond China.

"The possibility of cases being identified in other countries was not unexpected, and reinforces why WHO calls for on-going active monitoring and preparedness in other countries," it said in a statement.

It pointed out that it had issued guidance on how to detect and treat people who fall ill with the new virus, and stressed that China's decision to rapidly share the genetic sequencing of the virus made it possible to quickly diagnose patients.

WHO has not recommended any specific measures for travelers or restrictions on trade with China, but stressed Monday it was taking the situation seriously.

"Given developments, WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus will consult with Emergency Committee members and could call for a meeting of the committee on short notice," it said in a statement.


Source:   https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/who-first-case-new-virus-behind-china-outbreak-found-thailand
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Must be fake news.   China has clearly stated market closed down for two weeks with no new cases and absolutely no human transmission.   How can this be possible? lol
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I suppose the planet will have to wait now,

until a real "Slate Wiper"

Rids the earth.......

Of the virus that is the human race......

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"Separately on Tuesday, the World Health Organization (WHO) said for the first time that there appeared to have been limited person-to-person transmission of the virus, according to Reuters news agency".

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You beat me to that BBC link about limited person to person transmission.
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Mystery virus from China which has put UK hospitals on alert

It comes as the World Health Organisation (WHO) issued guidance on the case

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14:34, 15 JAN 2020

The virus is currently affecting people in China

Hospitals across the UK have been warned to prepare for cases of a fatal and mystery virus that is currently affecting people in China.

HullLive reports that people across the country have been hospitalised because of the unknown virus which has killed one person and there are now fears that it could spread across the world.

It comes after the World Health Organisation (WHO) told hospitals worldwide to prepare for cases outside of China.

So far there have been 41 cases in Wuhan City, in south east China, since December.

One case has now been detected in Thailand.

It was initially thought that the virus had been caught by contact with animals, but the WHO now believes it may be contagious between humans.

The WHO has given guidance to hospitals across the world on how to contain the virus if cases are detected.

Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, acting head of WHO's emerging diseases unit, said: "This is something on our radar, it is possible, we need to prepare ourselves."

The first case was detected on December 31 last year.

The unknown virus causes cold-like symptoms including a runny nose, headache, cough, sore throat and a fever.
Symptoms of the virus include a runny nose, headache, cough, sore throat and a fever.

Possible cases have been detected in Hong Kong and Singapore.

WHO has ruled out the unknown virus being SARS, bird flu, MERS or adenovirus.

Source:   https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mystery-virus-china-put-uk-3741877
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