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Online Discussion: Tracking new emerging diseases and the next pandemic; Now tracking the Aussie Flu.

City Chaos - Event Date: December 07 2006

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    Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:52am
From what little I've seen of the St Louis and New York recent problems I can only imagine in horror what the cities will be like when the BF hits. Imagine- no water, no sewage, no garbage pickup, no electricity, no food no firetrucks, traffic jammed for miles, no ??/

I hear a lot of people in the city do not even cook at home meaning no food storage. In an apartment  highrise how would you cook anyway? So the  carnage would start within 24 hrs of services going down. They are predicting 2 million dead from the flu.  How many from the general mess?

Lets hear from the city folks- How are you going to survive this?
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Well OldasRocks, I plan on driving the twenty or so miles from where I live to where you live, then quite possibly we're going to take over the local WalMart. If not that one then we can take over the one in th etown I live in because it's got the food section.
 
I got a new job with a department *REALLY* close to where you live. Apparrently they're supposed to build a Cabelas in the town I work in, too, which I'm seriously looking forward to. We may very well take that over too. Problem with this area is that it won't be easy to take over stuff, everyone here, as opposed to Minneapolis, is ARMED!
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Poprocks,
 
I completely share your concerns.  I thought the exact same thing when I saw a major city like St. Louis without power for days!  The only thing that kept things in line was the immediate presence of the MO National guard.  Guess what, come pandemic time, most cities will be on their own.  Many of our National Guard troops are overseas backing up our main forces and even if we were full strength at home, they would be a drop in the bucket for what will be needed to maintain civil functioning of our panic stricken citizens.  Sort of like trying to catch smoke on a windy day!
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Having grown up in NYC, New Yorkers are tough!  They have gone thru several "training" sessions for this including blizzards, black outs and 911.
 
Disasters just seem to bring out the best in everyone.  I remember one memorable blackout that lasted for days.  The local deli's set up shop on the sidewalk and cooked over trashcan fires.  They made food and gave it away for free.  Folks ate well!
 
The Guardian Angels (Love those guys!) started patrolling the streets and became our block's personal police force.  It was an amazing time when reality seemed suspended.
 
That being said, I do worry about my family still there.  My sister's pantry is huge but pathetic!  She has every type of vinegar known to man on one shelf.  Another is given over to exotic spices.  When I suggested she stock up on canned soups I was told they won't be caught dead with prepared soups -- too high in sodium and way too unhealthy.  (And going without food isn't?) 
 
God forbid they purchase a jar of peanut butter and jelly!
 
I think my siblings would have a collective heart attack if they saw what I've got stored away.    Well only time will tell.  We prep for the worst and hope for the best.
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Just wait until the post-pandemic cookbooks start hitting the shelves!
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Well Turbo if you know where I live lets take over Marks office in town. He is a Class 3 dealer and has move firepower that  Iran. Easy building to control and on the main town generator, has kitchen  and a full basement.  Know the building I'm talking about?  I already told Glenn we are taking over the Wallmart. The generators only have enough fuel for 3 hrs so that is a problem.  You may be wrong on where I live cause we have a Super Wallyworld with food also.  If you are thinking Cabalas you are  in Western Nebraska and that is 754 miles from me so fill the gas tank.
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I don't live in the city, but I did live in Chicago for a year.  Yikes.....I ran back to Ohio real fast!  I live in semi-country part of Ohio,near Amish country(part Amish myself).  I would offer a safe refuge to anyone in the city if you could get here.  A few conditions though.
 
1.  You are in excellent standing with Albert.
2.  Have to bring some of your own supplies.
3.  You know how to rub two sticks together for a fire! JkWink
 
If we all pull together...no one in the big city need worry!
Just my thoughts!  Blessings!
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It will be a lot differant in  NYC than you  remember it. Remember we are talking about a flu you die from. A lot of the National Guard will be sick also. No air conditioned places to take people to. People scared of being close to one another. No food available etc.

Wthout the NG will St Louis stay in line? i doubt it as its one of the most deadly cities in the US now. The same for a lot of other cities.

Vinegar soup? Might be healthy for you.
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rapture you able to house 250,000 exta people? I figure each farm family will have to house and extra 250,000  comparing the rural population to the city. Thats a lot of toilet paper.
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The more self-sufficient one can become, the better.

DH & I sold off everything we had to purchase a 1911 six bdrm., one  bth. farmhse. 

Crazy??? Yes, we've been called that....

Secure?  Yeah, more than most, these days...

What have we done to prepare ourselves...

Well, about  a 12 mo. supply of "supplies"  for a family of 10.  Extras included.

A 3 year supply of firewood to stoke our precious soapstone fireplace.

About a one year supply of meds.  Known, I might add....

& about.....24 years of prayer....we're gonna need it!

May our precious Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ help us all...
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Oldasrocks just stay prepared and ignore those who are less prepared.
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Originally posted by Chloe Chloe wrote:

Oldasrocks just stay prepared and ignore those who are less prepared.
 
Was that meant for me???????Ouch
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most urban areas will just fall apart and not do well.  rural areas will have to abosrb the tidal wave of urban chaos.  Many if not most rural residents willl defend their property with shotguns, rifles and assault rifles.  If  urban chaos breaks out then all bets are off,
 
simply put,
 
urban areas are hell and they will fall into chaos....
 
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Lets all go to outsidethecamps place. she seems to have it all together.

Chloe, we have to study the non-prepared as they will be looking for food etc. Also we need to prepare for the long term after this is all over.

my main worry is being able to run my AC.

I picked a bucket of plums today if anyone wants to come help me make jelly. The catfish are getting big in the pond. I love to feed them and watch them eat.

Yes Turbo that lump under my arm is a 45. So don't shoot me if you stop me for speeding I have my CCW. if you actually live near me we ought to get together.
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No Raptured that was NOT meant for you.  Sorry guess I should quote the post I am replying to.
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Originally posted by Chloe Chloe wrote:

No Raptured that was NOT meant for you.  Sorry guess I should quote the post I am replying to.
 
WinkOk...now I can go to bed and not worry I did something!
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If this hits in the winter, wait till the "Ant Hill Apt" dwellers set the place on fire trying to keep warm.  You think BF would be bad, how about uncontrolled fires sweeping through many if not most cities.
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I never thought of that...if people can't cope with a HEAT WAVE...

In the immortal words of Bachman-Turner Overdrive,"B-B-B-Baby, You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet".
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I'm new here, so hello to all.  I live in NY with a large family, and though we all pray that things don't get that bad.  If it does...then all we can do is hope that what is left of man's moral code will hold.

We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men.
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welcome momasaurus!  I love your name!  I do think that if we don't have a moral code, we'll get one fast.  May have to dig deep, but I can't see people not pulling together on this one. 
k105 - your post was hysterical!  Maybe those exotic spices will come in handy for possum or squirrel meat with dandelion suffle on the side!
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