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    Posted: May 28 2017 at 9:42am
http://thephaser.com/2017/05/north-korea-threatens-sniper-emp-attack-on-u-s/

For years Dr. John Ray and I have been discussing how simple it would for a foreign nation to set off an ElectroMagneticPulse Attack on the U.S. Simple dropping a low yield nuclear device form a low altitude satellite somewhere on Western part of the East Coast,  could take out the entire power grid or a great deal of it on the the East Coast and parts of the Midwest.

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In addition, North Korea has at least two observation or weather satellites whose orbits take them routinely over the U.S., at precisely the altitude that is ideal for an EMP attack.


I have discussed this with the Department of Energy and at one time actually was developing ways to deal with a nationwide power shutdown in my company at Crystalware Defense and Technology. I was told we had less than 3 years before the national power grid would fail simply because of the increased volume of information it must handle.

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/08/03/story5.html

Now - after the new administration killed the funding and our Synchro Phaser project to handle this, our Grid is more vulnerable than ever. I personally talked to people who told me we are moving to put much of our electronics underground and also was looking into Faraday cage technology. Some is already implemented to shield military devices from an EMP.

This is another "not if but when" and now that North Korea has threatened to do one - it is being ignored.

What does it look like when it happens? Well Tom Cruise shows us in World of the Worlds.

It will be too late and it will shut down the net, wipe out many electronics in cars, and communication. We need to prepare for this in all ways and we need to get back into researching the technology to strengthen our grid. We are ready anytime.

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Bet most people never heard of " Faraday"

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So will my "electronic lock" on my safe work or not if we get an EMP?
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Probably not,unless it's a Faraday Cage....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Technophobe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2017 at 3:24am
The lock itself would need to be protected by the faraday cage.  Hopefully this is in the specifications that came with the safe.  You could put the whole thing inside one.  It would also need to have an extant electricity supply; so the question arises: "Is it battery operated, because the mains will be gone?)

The degree of electronic protection would be costly.  Manual stuff would be better.
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All electronic safes are battery operated.  And when the batteries go out, there is also a small hidden key and / or a way to bypass it.    I've owned numerous safes, and they all appear to operate the same.
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It is likely that "90% of the population would die  within the first 12-24 months if the entire grid were to go down". Most of those not prepped or ready would perish due to many causes with the collapse of the infrastructure and food production as well as both the power grid, the Internet and functioning of our smart phones and related towers. The irony is that the effect would be close to an all out nuclear exchange in some ways.

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http://modernsurvivalblog.com/emp-electro-magnetic-pulse/suspect-super-emp-orbit-over-united-states/

Given the recent nuclear threats from North Korea directed at the United States, the satellite orbital map shown above indicates the track of the KMS 3-2 “satellite” this week from APR 8 – APR 16, which coincidentally just so happens to orbit along the eastern half of the U.S.

Some believe or suspect that this “satellite” may actually be a Super-EMP nuclear device…

 No one knows for sure of course, but people like Dr. Peter Vincent Pry with credentials from the USAF Weapons Laboratory believes that North Korea indeed may have the capability or may even posses Super-EMP nuclear weapons.

On December 12, 2012, the Kwangmyongsong 3-2 (KMS 3-2) was launched into space on a polar orbit, and is said to be an “Earth observation satellite”. The satellite was not placed perfectly and is evidently tumbling every 17 seconds while it orbits the earth. From an EMP nuclear weapon perspective, the tumbling is apparently irrelevant.

The altitude of orbit is approximately 500 km, or about 300 miles, the perfect altitude for EMP detonation for maximum range and damage. Coincidence?

comment: very suspicious and disturbing. All the data concerning the necessity of high tech missiles delivering a nuclear device become unimportant when one could be delivered by the detonation of a large nuclear warhead during its pass over New York or other city. Look at the critical area this satellite passes over.

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I seriously doubt that personal electronics would be effected by an emp.... that being said without outside data connections/power those devices won't be useful for very long.   The power-grid and those devices directly plugged into it will feel the vast majority of the effect.   You need some time of antenna to capture the pulse and magnify it, so anything connected to very long wire runs will be fried but those not connected will probably be okay.

I am only talking about a small nuclear detonation from a rouge nation....   However a coordinated attack from the superpowers or the Sun going berserk might yield different results.
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A lot going around on the GoTenna

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That's my understanding of a Faraday cage, any circuitry outside will be fried by an EMP
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Frankly, I don't give much credence to the concept of the bad guys using a precious nuke for an EMP attack. 

The Russians or Chinese, of course, are masters of this, and they have nukes to burn.  But North Korea or non-state actors?  Nukes are precious and few, and I believe they would attempt to kill as many Americans as possible without risking a warhead in a risky mid-air explosion that might or might not work. 

Forget the ICBM, all they have to do is bring one into a harbor in a pleasure craft or shrimp boat and it is bedtime for Bonzo.   Taking out a single major US city would likely destroy the US as a leading nation, from the analysis I've read.  
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In the movie "sum of all fears" the bomb was in a coke machine at a football match.....
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My Favorite Film!!
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its one of mine along with "12 MONKYES" and  "TERMINATOR 2 "(rise of the machines) 

 watched a really good series on Netflix called "The  100"   about surviving a Nucular war  and A.I."s

very apt when you see who won at GO........scary,

oh and "Star Trek the Movie" the very first one with VIGER.........

THE MACHINES   ARE COMING..........


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The scariest of all is still the short story: "The Marching Morons" by Cyril M Kornbluth.  I dream of  someone turning that into a movie one day  (no Idiocracy missed the point).  Sadly, I can't see it though, as there are no car chases, no sex, no gore (and the rising tide of those who march can't live without the tittilation of those, and without them cannot invisage any horror).  

Nevertheless, it is still, by far, the scariest story ever told - because I am watching it slowly, inexorably unfold all around.  No terminators, Cthulu worshipers, aliens, AI, zombies, climate change, vampires, slashers, mad scientists, nuclear exchanges or deadly viral outbreaks can rival that for juggernaut inevitability. - Not even the next post from Rizshat.
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Just read the plot,would be very politically incorrectto say some people are less intelligent than others, even thoughthis is the case,ie inbreeding in the UK
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Originally posted by CRS, DrPH CRS, DrPH wrote:

Frankly, I don't give much credence to the concept of the bad guys using a precious nuke for an EMP attack. 

The Russians or Chinese, of course, are masters of this, and they have nukes to burn.  But North Korea or non-state actors?  Nukes are precious and few, and I believe they would attempt to kill as many Americans as possible without risking a warhead in a risky mid-air explosion that might or might not work. 

Forget the ICBM, all they have to do is bring one into a harbor in a pleasure craft or shrimp boat and it is bedtime for Bonzo.   Taking out a single major US city would likely destroy the US as a leading nation, from the analysis I've read.  

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In principle, even a new nuclear proliferator could execute such a strike. In practice, however, it seems unlikely that such a state would use one of its scarce warheads to inflict damage which must be considered secondary to the primary effects of blast, shock, and thermal pulse. Furthermore, a HEMP attack must use a relatively large warhead to be effective (perhaps on the order of one megaton), and new proliferators are unlikely to be able to construct such a device, much less make it small enough to be lofted to high altitude by a ballistic missile or space launcher.”



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posted for informational purposes only

LOL At EMPs? Science Report Tackles Likelihood Of A North Korea Nuclear Capability

http://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2017/05/30/530262884/lol-at-emps-science-report-tackles-likelihood-of-a-north-korea-nuclear-capabilit


personally speaking I don't think NK is much of a threat in the EMP department now

that could change a few years from now


China and Russia ?

definite threats

a nuclear attack would likely be preceded by the use of EMP


biggest threat of all?


solar flare

the grid does need to be hardened

to ignore the threat is irresponsible to say the least

its merely a matter of time before the sun fries us

eg the Carrington Event

and the Charlemagne Event


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i read a short SF story once about a astronaught who  was on the moon at the time of a Sun EMP.

he was shield from the EMP  by the earth, he took off from the moon, 

landed on a  steralized  wiped clean earth,wondered what to do ????

he got out of his ship, thought for a moment then .....

took off his helmet and said .....

                                                     LET THERE BE LIFE .......

think about that one !!!!!!!



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