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Hey guys something is going to get us that is why we prep. Does it really matter. I have tried to stock what I need for most disasters but I may not have what I need when TSHTF. Better not worry if NK or the sun hits us with an EMP. I just purchased more KI in case the little fat kid hits CA with a nuke it will drift east.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/10/north-korea-could-reportedly-wreak-havoc-with-high-altitude-nuclear-blast.html

A former U.S. ambassador wrote an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal Friday warning that North Korea’s nuclear threat is not limited to a bomb striking a U.S. city.

A nuclear bomb that detonates 40 miles above a target (and hundreds of miles away) could deliver serious consequences, Henry F. Cooper, who was the director of the Strategic Defense initiative under President George H.W. Bush, wrote.

He pointed to the time the U.S. detonated nuclear warhead 900 miles southwest of Hawaii. It was 1962 and the high-altitude nuclear bomb “destroyed hundreds of street lights in Honolulu, caused electrical surges on airplanes in the area and damaged at least six satellites.”

Russian generals reported back in 2004 that North Korea has in its possession the designs for these so-called “super EMP nuclear weapons,” th op-ed said. At around that time, Congress put together a commission to study such an explosion, and determined that there would be no effects on the ground, but the high-altitude electromagnetic pulse would render “critical electricity-dependent infrastructure” inoperable.

The op-ed raises questions about whether or not North Korea ran a “dry run” recently, when a medium-range missile reportedly exploded midflight in what was seen as a failure. The article questions if the missile was deliberately detonated.

comment: When the microcomputer was born in the late 70s, we had a very hard time getting IBM to take us seriously.  Bill Gates didn't and that is now history. An EMP attack and a power grid failure would put the U.S. or at least the East Coast which would create problems all across the U.S. in chaos. 

Despite a lot of grumbling and military exercises, there is little doubt that at any time, Kim Jong-un could send a signal to a satellite that passes directly over New York and the East Coast and if it was packed with a nuclear warhead there is no need to even fire a missile. No target - just timing and down goes the grid.

It has been said the fear of a Pandemic could do more harm and kill more people than the Pandemic. The Anarchy situation and a heavily armed U.S. population in a blackout for not days - but many months would take down the government and make us vulnerable to more attacks.

This is a lot more than flipping a light switch and replacing the bulb when it flickers and dies. It won't be coming back on for maybe up to a year.

New York has fared badly even in short blackouts and law enforcement and military is not well enough prepared to deal with what would happen. They would withdraw and not send people into the heart of looting and violence.

The overall psychology in Silicon Valley and most places as to a nuclear attack is why prepare? Within minutes the roads would be blocked, few have more than a week or so of food, and probably the best armed and skilled with using their weapons are the outlaws except for a handful of veterans and active duty military.

Who would feel it the most?  The poor. Already struggling to survive in the inner cities in gangland there would be no one to stop gangs who would go house to house looting and regroup.  It is not likely that inner city packs would venture into the "wilderness" or outside the cities because they would be very vulnerable there to rifle packing southerners and other survivalists who did what most of America didn't - prepare.

My advice?   Prepare. Stock food and water and weapons (a per legal - and I must say that).

The reality is that if they nuke North Korea clouds of it is going to drift to China, Japan, and Russia and eventually to us. No winners in this. Just a lot of radioactivity and fallout and it does travel all around the world.

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Beyond the jokes and not taking this seriously this is one of the greatest current threats to America today and in the future. It would threaten the lives of over 90% of the population many of whom would die from the collapse of the infrastructure which relies on the net and the grid.








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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/07/04/north-korea-react-but-with-extreme-caution-mr-trump.html

If only for a day, Fox appears to be focusing on "The Real News" which effects America and also the rest of the world significantly.

As Dr. John and I have discussed many times, North Korea may be in a position to launch an EMP attack from one of their satellites which goes right over a key target point. We had figured out exactly where and how high the burst would have to be to really put a wham on the East Coast Grid and shut down New York, D.C. and also this effect would ripple across the U.S. by shutting down other key communication centers.

It only takes one megalomaniac a few minutes to order the drop of a nuclear warhead which may already be up there. Once again, I would like to remind all who read what I am posting, we are still willing to help fortify the power grid and give you solutions to make our country safer. We tried once but someone did not steal the tech - they killed the project.

This needs to be addressed. I have written an e-mail to our Commander in Chief and have offered our services. I hope it gets read. We may be old, but are not dead and the tech could definitely prevent a lot of damage.

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While the most-discussed nightmare scenario is a nuclear-tipped ICBM, an equally horrifying possibility is that North Korea has developed, and uses, a so-called super electromagnetic pulse weapon -- EMP – that could potentially take out America’s electric grid. “We know that North Korea got the design plans for an EMP from Russia years ago,” says Frank Gaffney, a former assistant secretary of defense under Ronald Reagan. “If they have one, they could take us, overnight, from the world’s only superpower to a pre-industrial society. Everything we need to live today depends on electricity.”

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/05/millions-american-lives-could-be-at-stake-as-north-korea-threatens-to-attack-power-grid.html

"North Korea may very well have the ability to kill millions of Americans, without directly firing on U.S. soil. For the first time, the pariah country’s state news agency warned it could hit the U.S. with an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) onslaught, a threat that experts contend is both very real and comes with catastrophic consequences.
“The biggest danger would be shorting out of the power grid, especially on the East Coast. Imagine a situation where large sections of the U.S. had no power. Imagine New York or Washington D.C. with no power for just a week. The implications would be hard to fathom,” Harry Kazianis, Director of Defense Studies at the Center for the National Interest, told Fox News. “The casualty rates would be off the charts.”


I have posted this several times and the threat remains as great as ever for North Korea to lob a nuclear bomb from a satellite which passes directly over Washington D.C. and a place to the east as  computed by Dr. John Ray and I as a key detonation spot high in air which would shut down most of the Eastern power grid.

So how could North Korea pull off an EMP attack? A hydrogen bomb detonated at a high altitude would create an electromagnetic pulse that would knock out key infrastructure – namely prominent parts of the U.S. electrical grid.

The higher the bomb’s detonation, the wider the range of destruction. An altitude of just under 250 miles – around the orbit of the International Space Station – would annihilate electronics in majority of the mainland, including parts of neighboring Canada and Mexico, analysts have said. North Korea exhibited its capacity to reach such altitudes in satellite launches in both 2012 and 2016.

comment: It seems rather pointless to launch a high trajectory ICBM missile attack on the U.S. when it likely be shot down.  It would be much more viable to launch one from a submarine off the coast of California or from a barge or fishing boat in the New York harbor. I have been predicting this for the last 30 years.

The grid is still not safe though we tried, my company and engineers and did create technology to protect it which was rejected as the Phaser Initiative was deprived of funding during the Barack Obama years. We continue to offer our services and technology to protect America and except for being monitored constantly in every way imaginable, cannot get the funding or interest to do so.

I was told 7 years old the grid was going to fail in 2 years. We are long overdue. A grid shutdown would be the ideal time for any of our enemies to launch a strike or for rogue states terrorists to come out of mole status and set off a nuclear device in a large city.

So, as we continue to watch, it is with great sadness - to change what we could, accept what we could not get funding for- and the wisdom to know the difference. We still could make a difference - but time is running out. 

My final point - North Korea does not need to further develop re-entry technology to do this. It can be done now from a missile launched and detonated more than 200 miles up and could wipe out most of the power grid in North America.

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I'm not as worried about an EMP attack as I am about a bioterror/chemical weapons attack on some of our crowded cities.  Much easier to pull off, and NK has those capabilities. 

I'm not terribly wigged about Kim's ICBMs, he knows that if he landed a lucky punch on us, it would be curtains.  Fire & Fury, remember? 

Mostly, I think he wants attention on the world stage.  He's sure getting it. 
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Originally posted by CRS, DrPH CRS, DrPH wrote:

I'm not as worried about an EMP attack as I am about a bioterror/chemical weapons attack on some of our crowded cities.  Much easier to pull off, and NK has those capabilities. 

I'm not terribly wigged about Kim's ICBMs, he knows that if he landed a lucky punch on us, it would be curtains.  Fire & Fury, remember? 

Mostly, I think he wants attention on the world stage.  He's sure getting it. 


I agree with you. We could not retaliate against bioweapons and North Korea has been swapping tubes with Pakistan for years.

It probably still two apes waving bones in the air and Kim Jong Un is not insane. With his advantage to take out Seoul he could have wiped them out years ago. I personally think the nuclear technology is being developed to sell to highest bidder and Iran was at the last and they will keep NK funded no matter what sanctions are in place.

There are a large number of viruses developed - designer viruses i.e. a Hanta virus I know of - which could effectively take out the U.S.

It is all about money. Blowing up Wall Street or eliminating all their customers is not an option either Russia or China can afford.

The problem with a virus is controlling it.  If they have millions of vaccines for it and vaccinate their people and then release it, they would have The Stand - a country untouched all its resources in place, ready for occupation with no one to defend it.

Now that - is scary.

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Hey CRS,DrPH, any advice on gas mask for bio/nuke attack make/model and what filter cartridges do I need? I have held off on getting gas masks because I am insecure about getting the right one and the right cartridges. I want to stay under 250.00 per mask. One for me one for my son.

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Hey CRS,DrPH, any advice on gas mask for bio/nuke attack make/model and what filter cartridges do I need? I have held off on getting gas masks because I am insecure about getting the right one and the right cartridges. I want to stay under 250.00 per mask. One for me one for my son.


Hi FluMom!  The thing about masks is that they are not really "once size fits all" in terms of application.  

In a nuke attack, your primary concern will be exposure to ionizing radiation (pretty unlikely that you'll be at Ground Zero of a warhead blast), and secondary effects of a nuke include fallout, which can be avoided largely by sheltering in place.  If a nuke goes off, you won't want to be running around outside, so stock your shelter space! 

As far as other applications, I also caution that the likelihood of any attack impacting each of us is really low (lottery-winning probability).  A bio attack is likely to be modeled more on what's worked in the past = anthrax spores in mail (Amerithrax attack in 2001).  NK or other actors don't have the massive biowarfare capabilities of the old Soviet Union, although they certainly have some material stockpiled. 

If we are attacked, the biggest threat to any of us on AFT is, quite honestly, "terror."  Remember how screwed up we were after 9/11?  The impact of terror on society far outweighs the morbidity and mortality of the event.  

A better investment is to make sure you have up-to-date communication equipment (NOAA weather radio) bug-out bag with necessary medications, ammo etc.  Masks are pretty much for the first responders, and the good ones are expensive.  They also have expiration dates, so you have to keep buying them!! 

We'll be OK.  Stay out of the way of hurricanes this week!!  Best, Chuck (in Washington DC this week, meeting with like-minded folks).

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