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bob123
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Posted: October 14 2014 at 5:55pm |
What is the difference between these two? If you were going to mix your own saline solution in a worst case scenario, could you use the feeding tube bag, since it seems like it would be easier to fill?
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Satori
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feeding bags are strictly for FEEDING through the GI system either through a tube down your nose or through your stomach wall ie a PEG tube or G tube feeding bags are not sterile to give iv fluids would give you a case of sepsis but quick and please don't even think about mixing your own if fluids this must be done by a trained professional eg a pharmacist and it MUST be done under STERILE conditions that is NOT an option |
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bob123
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What about a subcutaneous home made IV, would that be safer? I had to give IV's to my cat once and it made a huge difference..
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Satori
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NO NO NO anything that is going into the body with the exception of the GI system MUST be absolutely STERILE otherwise a massive,life threatening infection is 100% guaranteed if you need ivf's you NEED expert medical care if for no other purpose than to address the reasons you need ivf's in the first place |
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bob123
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So what is the best alternative, just drink electrolytes early on or something? I know how important sterility is, etc but all the sodium chloride solution is sold out.
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Satori
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you can easily make your own rehydration solution lots of info on the net its just water,salt and sugar this does not have to be sterile or you could just buy some sports drinks such as Gatorade |
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Pedialyte is much better than Gatorade and I think better than water salt and sugar. I am looking at getting a bunch of it if Ebola gets bad.
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bob123
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Geez, they said on the CBS evening news that treating an Ebola patient can take up to 10 liters of fluids per day. Guess I should just give up and dig a bunker.
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jacksdad
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Wow - 10 liters. If they're leaking internally and externally, it probably would take huge amounts of fluid to keep up. Of course, then you have to do something with all that potentially infectious fluid they're losing (vomit, diarrhea, sweat and urine).
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jacksdad
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I might be wrong, but subcutaneous fluid administration is usually a lot slower than by IV from what I remember. Something like a couple of liters a day is typical.
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