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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jacksdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2018 at 1:49pm
That sounds a lot like what Fox News knows. There's much more to this story than a few bullet points.

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Trump Will Not Act Against Russia Because He Is Very Likely Being Blackmailed By Russia.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/17/1742323/-Trump-Will-Not-Act-Against-Russia-Because-He-Is-Very-Likely-Being-Blackmailed-By-Russia

"All in all, the odds are disconcertingly high that Russia, or somebody, has blackmail leverage over the president of the United States."

Trump and all those around him have done nothing but LIE and obfuscate on this issue since day one
IF your not guilty of something THEN why all the LIES ???

Trump REPEATEDLY said he had nothing to do with the Russians
even his own sons have contradicted him on this

we DO KNOW that the Russians did indeed meddle in the election
this is an established FACT at this point
Trump has said from day one that NO this is not the case
and now he denies saying this ???

Trump refused to invoke further sanctions against Russia
WHY ???

it certainly appears someone has something on him

Mr. Trump
IF your not guilty
then STOP LYING

and thank you JD
"That sounds a lot more like what Fox News knows. There's much more to this story than a few bullet points."

talking points is exactly right
and incorrect ones at that LOL
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Trump: I Never Said Russia Did Not Meddle in Our Election. Reality: Your Pants Are on Fire

https://www.redstate.com/arbogast/2018/02/18/trump-never-said-russia-not-meddle-election-reality-pants-fire/


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The internet, while often used as a tool to make people think they’re experts in fields they are not, does provide a functional way for people to check on whether somebody else is lying or not.

And President Trump is lying."


gee

ya think LOL

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I honestly want to know, for those saying that Trump colluded what did trump get from it?    Like I said that million dollars a month they spent was like pissing in the ocean, the DNC leaks by all accounts really does seem be an inside job, maybe the Russians were responsible for the Podesta emails I don't know.  Even so the emails didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.... I don't think they swayed many people.

How did Trump benefit from any of this?

Edit: I will concede that perhaps Trump could have been duped but I don't see any motivation for him to be willingly involved.
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Let me put it much simpler.... Trumps own resources VASTLY exceeds those given to these meddling efforts.  If he thought any thing they where doing was useful.... he could have easily paid for it himself and had no toxic associations.   He didn't need the Russians.
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Trump likes to win.  He probably wanted to win the presidential race even more than he wanted to be President. 

His money, influence and, most importantly, his media-savvy made him almost incapable of losing.  But almost is not certainty and he would have wanted certainty.

That does not mean he colluded, but it does give him motive.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2018 at 5:53pm
whats the lesson here .......

the internet is not safe,

elections should be  a cross in a box on a balot paper, forget machines,

and FOES will try and destroy democracy,

 by ANY MEANS............

maybe we woke up to the danger now ,

Trump is just the stooge in all of this its way over his head..............

and it has been going on long before Chump and his sideshow appeared............
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Technophobe so are you arguing that 1 million dollars a month offered Trump "certainty"?  LOL like I said the Russian effort was like pissing in the ocean.
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No, DeepThinker, not certainty, but a small step closer to it.
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SOURCE: Rick Gates To Plead Guilty And Agrees To Testify Against Manafort


https://crooksandliars.com/2018/02/source-rick-gates-plead-guilty-and-agrees


and do I really need to explain the fallacy of this argument ???

"Like I said that million dollars a month they spent was like pissing in the ocean,"


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Everybody was attacked in a Trump tweet storm this weekend...except Russia. Won't impose sections despite both houses overwhelmingly calling for them, and won't do anything but praise Putin. Nothing to see, right?

What did Trump gain? The power he's craved for years, and the ability to restructure the tax code to benefit himself and his family for starters.

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yup
Trump takes a swing at everything and anybody

EXCEPT 

Russia

something stinks to high heaven
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well that didn't take long LOL

Alex Van Der Zwaan Pleads Guilty to Making False Statements to the FBI
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743225/-Alex-Van-Der-Zwaan-Pleads-Guilty-to-Making-False-Statements-to-the-FBI

now the only question is
is this guy gonna roll over and start talking ?
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Paul Manafort May Be A Bigger Gangster Than You Thought
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/20/1743314/-Paul-Manafort-May-Be-A-Bigger-Gangster-Than-You-Thought

cause ya know
Trump only surrounds himself with the "best people"  LOL
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Robert Mueller issues MORE new charges against Manafort and Gates

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/22/1743962/-Robert-Mueller-issues-MORE-new-charges-against-Manafort-and-Gates

ruh roh Scooby LOL
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Here are some details from the BBC

Quote Robert Mueller indicted Mr Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and business associate Rick Gates on multiple counts of tax and bank fraud.

Both were charged in October with conspiracy to launder money.

But there are no criminal allegations of collusion with Russia, the justice department investigation's main thrust.

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Thursday's 32-count indictment alleges that Mr Manafort and Mr Gates conspired to hide more than $30m (£22m) in Mr Manafort's personal income from tax officials.

It also claims that Mr Gates concealed more than $3m of his own income.

The money "flowed through" a $75m offshore account controlled by them, according to the indictment filed by a federal grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia.



The video in the article also talks of spending more the $1 million on menswear WackoGeek


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Shepard Smith: People Go To Prison For What Jared Kushner Did

https://www.yahoo.com/news/shepard-smith-people-prison-jared-054241423.html

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LOL !!! LOL

How Manafort’s inability to convert a PDF file to Word helped prosecutors

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/how-manaforts-inability-to-convert-a-word-doc-to-pdf-helped-prosecutors/


Trump-"I'm only going to hire the BEST people"  LOL


Manafort and Gates-making reservations at "Club FED" as we speak LOL


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Former Trump aide tells loved ones of plans to plead guilty, cooperate with special counsel

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-trump-aide-richard-gates-poised-plead-guilty-142241955--abc-news-topstories.html


yeah

Muellers investigation is just a "witch hunt" ???

WELL.....


apparently  he has found hisself some of dem witches  thingys LOL


can't wait to see if they turn states evidence and start talking

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Paul Manaforts very very VERY bad month
and it ain't even over yet LOL

Former Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort Indicted Yet Again

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-indicted_us_5a90878be4b01e9e56bbc0ef


getting involved with the Donald was a really really REALLY bad mistake

Manafort may never have been discovered for the criminal that he obviously is


does he have anything on Trump ?

and is he going to talk to save himself some SERIOUS jail time ???


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