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I understand why you might not personally like Trump.   However what I think his opponents don't understand is those exact qualities are also enduring to his supporters.   I don't want to explain why... it is complicated.

For me it isn't about the process or wither I personally like him or not.... but by most objective measures he has been good for our country.   I will let history judge him.     That is all I have to say about this... it is worse than arguing religion :)
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the rise to power of someone like Trump was VERY predictable
actually it was quite expected by many

as predictable as this rise to power was
so to the consequences are predicable and even expected probably unavoidable at this point

HINT:it does NOT end well,people who think things are bad now ain't seen nothing yet
Trump is NOT a savior he is a harbinger of the VERY bad things to come
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if you want to understand why I am so VERY pessimistic about the future of the U.S.
this sums it up well

Falwell, Jr. Wouldn't Necessarily Reject Trump For Rape: 'I'd Have To See The Circumstances'

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/03/falwell-jr-wouldnt-necessarily-reject


this garbage being spewed out of the mouth of a VERY prominent "Christian evangelical"

so called conservative leader

a fish is said to rot from the head down

how very VERY appropriate


Jesus wept.......
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I am not sure Trump is good for America.

I can't argue he is good for business.  He is good at that, very good.  And money has a multitude of uses.

My argument is that Mamon is a false God.  There is far more to life than money.  There are other considerations.  Freedom, friendship, family, honor, happiness, health:  not only is the drive for economic strength over all these a poison to your society, but when the "Leader" worships them and fame and sex so completely, it breeds a totally toxic culture.  For the drug dealer to kill his rivals and deal his poisons, he must first rate dollars above people.  The same miscalculation pervades most of your culture to varying degrees. 

I used to have a very well paid job at which I excelled.  I was miserable, had ulcers and failed utterly to enjoy my money.  I gave it all up for love and have never been happier.  Now I am a pauper (although I share even that most of the time) and the lifestyle of middle class America looks like a fairytale of untold riches.  But, I sleep the peaceful sleep of the just.  My life-expectancy is longer than an American's.  I do not trust our justice system, but I know they will never kill me.  I may never wear a tiara full of diamonds, but I will never wear an early shroud because I can't afford a doctor. 

It is true that the far left of politics is dangerous, it destroys freedom and drags people down to a lower level.  Go too far to the left and your country goes bankrupt.  But, the far right is every bit as bad, It takes from the poorest - as the higher levels must climb on the lower to rise above them and then the successful live in fear of slipping back down.  In addition to spreading this tide of misery, it teaches everyone to adopt such moral bankruptcy - and to hide it from yourselves.  You even think this normal, grown up and the only route to freedom.

Trump is not a right-winger.  He is a far right extremist.  He put on a coat with blue patches - to win more votes - but he means none of it.  His economic policies may make you all a mite more money - for a while, but the true cost to your society is astronomical and you will be paying for decades to come.
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every so often the world needs a big shake up to get out of the leathargy that  its in ,

in this case its ......

Chump love him or hate the (pussy grabber)

personally i would not have him feed my Dog,

that said ,

he there and he either going to force everyone to lay down their weapons or WW3 will happen 

just watching and waiting (for the chinese invasion) lol
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Trump Pal’s Email Regarding Julian Assange Meeting Leaked

https://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2018/04/04/trump-pals-email-regarding-julian-assange-meeting-leaked/

A recent story of interest to the ongoing Russia probe is that of an email from longtime Trump pal and former campaign adviser, Roger Stone, to former Trump campaign aid, Sam Nunberg.

In the email, Stone claims to have had dinner with WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange.

The significance of this is that WikiLeaks has long been believed to be working on behalf of the Kremlin by U.S. intelligence. They released DNC emails obtained from a hacker called Guccifer 2.0, now proven to be a Russian intelligence officer.

Stone has claimed to have been in contact with both, interestingly enough.

There should be no quarter given for those who conspire with enemies of our nation to harm our republic, in any way, and that includes attempting to manipulate the outcome of a lawful investigation.


it it up to their eyeballs



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Trump decided to abandon plans for more Russia sanctions

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-decided-to-abandon-plans-for-more-russia-sanctions/ar-AAw2Itf?li=BBnb7Kz


Putin OWNS Trump

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Flight Records: Proof Trump Lied To Comey About His Overnight In Moscow

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/04/trump-lied-comey-about-his-overnight


if your not doing anything wrong

THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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The email Roger Stone didn’t want anyone to see


just MORE lying and obstruction of  justice from a Trumptard

bottom line is
if it wasn't for the Russians
Trump would NOT be President
Putin has his man in the White House

and as for Julian Assange ?

BIGGEST dirt bag ever
that guy has turned out to be a TOTAL fraud
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/6/1769978/-Sean-Hannity-Breaks-The-Law-On-TV-Telling-Mueller-Witnesses-to-Destroy-Evidence

yeah
cause INNOCENT people always destroy evidenceLOL
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Hilary Clinton did.  I'm just saying.

"Innocent until proven guilty!"  But, I admit it smells fishy in BOTH cases.  However, the two of them could each have legitimate reasons. 

Personally, I doubt it:- either way.  There is a big swamp out there - brimming full of rotten fish.
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Mueller Indicts Manafort and Associate With 'Ties to Russian Intelligence' on Charges of Obstructing Justice
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And don't forget
Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

Earlier this week Mr Manafort was accused of witness tampering.


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Konstantin Kilimnik Indictment Means Mueller has Officially Tied Russian Intelligence to Trump campaign


it is now a proven FACT
that the Russians did everything they could to get Trump elected

now the question is WHY ???
and is Trump personally involved?
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WHY !!!!!! the guys a FOOL ,

draging the American people into His cesspool,

Stand up and get this fool OUT !!!!!!!

SACK HIM ......................
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/13/1771645/-BREAKING-Cohen-is-BREAKING-Flipping

nothing definite
but should be verified or discredited by end of the day
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bwa ha ha !!!

Mueller Is Coming For Paul Manafort With 75 Subpoenas

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/06/mueller-coming-paul-manafort-75-subpoenas

only 75 ???

Mueller is getting soft on crime LOL
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Judge jails ex-Trump campaign chair Manafort ahead of trial

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-jails-ex-trump-campaign-chair-manafort-ahead-155410775--politics.html

uh oh

hope Manafort likes flip flops and looks good in an orange jump suit
and then there is that whole cavity search thingy LOL
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i wonder if thats to keep him out of "Reach"........................
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392533-giuliani-mueller-probe-might-get-cleaned-up-with-presidential-pardons

They're buying his silence instead.
"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
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