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    Posted: April 28 2009 at 10:34am
Hello, i am writing because i dont know what else i can do, i need to talk to someone about this.
 
My dad has just come home from texas, he was on a domesctic flight with lots of mexicans going to new orleans for some kind of festival.
 
He then took the plane home to denmark.
 
He got sick same day he returned home, now he has gotten worse, high fever comes and goes, trouble breathing, and all the other flu symptoms.
 
He did go to the doctor today, but the doctor did not know of any flu outbreak, so he got sent come. The doctor then later called him and said that after doing research the doctor admits to having gone about it all wrong, he should not have come to the office, however he can not get testet for swine flu, because the web page the doctor lokked at said that only people who had been in nyc, california and mexico, could get the test, because it was an expensive test...
 
So now he is at home feeling really sick, my mom is there with him and she goes to work everyday, she will not get to close to him but i told her that if she got it she got... no point in not getting to close.
 
I just dont understand this, other people have been qaurantined here in denmark, but my dad, no way ... he can just go back home with no meds no nothing...
 
I sure hope he gets better and also hope my mom does not get it and pass it on to her students at the school where she is theaching.
 
 
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I wouldn't trust the doctor's judgement. Maybe try calling your health department or other local authoritive agency and explain the situation. There ahs to be someone that will listen and act appropriately.
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Do you have the freedom to step outside the socialized medical care system controlled by the government to get your dad tested? It would be worth paying for real professional care yourself at this point if you think your dad is showing symptoms that are putting his life at high risk.

I can understand your mom trying to avoid contact with him to protect herself - that is wise. But if he is showing symptoms of breathing difficulty, it is risky for him to be left alone.

What is not wise for the public health of your Nation and of individuals is your government policy to only test and treat those who have been to Mexico rather than those who have been exposed to Mexicans.

The US has a wide open border and Mexicans come and go every day without passing through immigration, border checks, airports, etc. Mexican citizens often come over the border when they are sick for first world free medical care or to escape problems in their country. They attend US schools all over but in border cities, they travel back and forth to homes in Mexico each day. Nothing has changed nor will it change to protect US public health. Your government probably is ignornant of this information or is followng the US "world leader" b.s. into big problems again.
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The problem is that my dad only goes to a doctor when he is very very very sick and feeling very bad, he is from the old school, i will never get him to go again, in his mind, he went and thats it, no treament just ride it out. He said on the phone today that he will get better en a few days. He sounded very ill, and also told that he did have high fever from time to time and got the shakes for the high fevers. I cant do anything, he wont hear, he actually went to work also.... his coworkers sent him straight home and got at bit angry my mom tells... well i can understand why.. they all know where he has been...

I can only hope he gets better, he wont even take the tamiflu i have i my prep stocks...
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Call the local media if possible  !!!    Call another doc, try to get more
 Tamiflu....
 
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Here is a video that explains the spread of the disease.
http://www.wpxi.com/video/19313969/index.html
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Have your Dad go back to the doctor's office and tell the doc that he won't leave until tests and treatments are ordered! Then see how long it takes to have your Dad  taken care of.

If that doesn't work, then have him walk into the local socialized medical facility.

Gawd how I hate professional and governmental incompetence! Angry
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Incompetence is world wide,  My doctor's office wouldn't even let me make an appointment , told me to go to urgent care.  50 people already there and it was noon, they close at 8:30, I doubt they would even have gotten to me.

Try to get your dad to try vitamin D  or laying in the sun for an hour or so a day, I read that will kill the virus.  Get him some orange juice, lots of it.
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4=laro,

I am sorry you are sick and hope you recover soon.

Start looking for a new doctor. People in socialized medicine countries don't have that freedom and opportunity. Your's is disloyal and stinks. He/she will treat you the same in the future when you need them. I had one like that.

I was a number or slab of flesh to her; not a human being. She did not respect human life all that much - kind of soulless. I did not find out until I was very sick and needed her and she brushed me off. Ditched her like a hot potato. I have a really good one now.
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A bunch of Mexicans going to New Orleans to a festival. A swine flu infection festival... OuchCrap we should have 1000 more carriers without them even knowing it?
PS Get your dad to s real doctor and fire his other one. One a bunch of ****. Some hick doctor doesn't know about this flipping swine flu? I say stupid or bull****... What a dumb ass....
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NEO I understand where you are coming from. My mom is almost 84 and old school too. She won't go to doctors or take meds...do you think your mom could insist on getting Tamiflu for your dad? Maybe it could be put in his food without him knowing? I know they  have liquid form for kids so maybe she can get liquid form and get it in him somehow.
There is no guarantee your mom will get sick. If she is careful she may not get sick. I know since you are there you feel helpless. I'll pray for your family.
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Well, dad will not go to another doc, he says that he has been to one and thats enough, he also said he does not have time to go to a hospital, and he really does not have time to be sick at all. He is sitting at home working and writing emails and making phone calls, yes yes workaholic.
His doc will be testing him for malaria, she said that he does not qualify for swine flu testing because he has not been to nyc, cali or mexico, he has only been in texas and on a plane with some mexicans, not qualified !!!
 
So now he has fever still and is getting no treament, he was been told to write down his fever temps during the day and give this to the doc.
 
I hope he gets better soon.
 
Freaking bad doctor, we can only hope we dont get sick og anything, with this level of doc service... its soo sad.
 
 
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ohh yea, forgot to say that dad does not believe in swine flu he said its all media hype and not real anyway.
 
 
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His doc will be testing him for malaria, she said that he does not qualify for swine flu testing because he has not been to nyc, cali or mexico, he has only been in texas and on a plane with some mexicans, not qualified !!!

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THE CDC should add that...IF YOU'RE ON A PLANE WITH MEXICANS YOU QUALIFY FOR TESTING!

BIRD FLU WAS FOUND IN NORTH DAKOTA BACK IN EARLY FEBRUARY!! NOT TO MENTION THE CASE IN SPAIN AT THE SAME TIME AND TAMIFLU DID NOT HELP!

In the US, your Dad is NO more likely to get the flu from a MEXICAN than from a Caucasian, African American, Chinese, Filipino, Japanese...! Yup I'm sure all those Mexicans snuck over the border (coughing, sneezing, hacking, noses running & fevers spiking) just so they could board a plane to Orleans and infect all the good white people. Be real! Get an education for heavens sake! There are also educated uppermiddle class Mexicans that are citizens and travel like everyone else! Not all Mexicans crawl, run or swim across the borders infected with influenza.

We stayed away for awhile because the spewing of blatant bigotry & ignorance is disgusting! We attempt to come back and utilize the site, but here it is again. Bummer we're not afforded basic consideration & courtsey. Rather, while trying to keep our families safe we inevitably, and constantly, continue to come across ignorant & prejudice remarks while trying to keep up-to-date on REAL issues.

"cough - hack hack - couch..achooo!" Oh no, better run for your tamiflu...a MEXICAN just hacked all over you!
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Originally posted by waterboy waterboy wrote:

A bunch of Mexicans going to New Orleans to a festival. A swine flu infection festival... OuchCrap we should have 1000 more carriers without them even knowing it?
PS Get your dad to s real doctor and fire his other one. One a bunch of ****. Some hick doctor doesn't know about this flipping swine flu? I say stupid or bull****... What a dumb ass....
 
LOL..Your temper! I am extremely edgy and irritable  for the last 2 days.
I can't talk to anyone...its so bad.
I just got off the phone using language like that. seems the bank picked the worst time to refuse access to my bank account, just a ploy to get me, and who knows how many more hundreds,  to call in , be put on hold for 5 minutes...and listen to the new products they are pushing for 5 minutes ... while they "help me" regain access to my banking.
Like I need to have to listen to new banking products when I have last runs to do, and I'm really pressed for time.
 
Terrible what's going on out there pandemic-wise.
Maybe some of these doctors, today are under extreme stress also. ...getting irritable too.
Unhappy
 
This pandemic is going to bring out the best and worst in people in all walks of life.
 
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"In the US, your Dad is NO more likely to get the flu from a MEXICAN than from a Caucasian, African American, Chinese, Filipino, Japanese...!"

I agree with you, H1N1 plays no favorites.


Neo's Dad needs to see another Dr. who will perform the needed tests..  Even the
President, this morning asked that Physician file reports with the appropriate agencies.  I am thinking this flu has been misdiagnosed or just written off as "the flu".  Then you have lawsuits which won't help the reporting process for earlier cases if that's what prevents the Drs. from reporting.  Just my thoughts here...
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I am sorry if the whole mexican thing came out wrong from my side, i have nothing personal against mexicans at all.

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What are you talking about? How has the flu offended your race or your Nation? And Mexicans are not coughing and sneezing all over everybody trying to give them the flu. How gross for you to make that up and say that about Mexicans.

Someone is suffering from racialism and Nationalism and it is not the people here discussing the flu pandemic. It is the person who imagined infected Mexicans purposefully trying to infect Americans and the world. May I suggest you get a grip.
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could have croped up anywhere not mex's fault.

i think we all thought it would be asia..boy where we wrong
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Sorry for your dad's illness. Even in socialized medicine countries, you can get a 2nd opinion. Do it now! Also, a call to the local and regional press is warranted. Don't give up. BTW, if it is H1N1, the treatment from doctors at this late stage (passed 2 days now)will have minimal effect. Take a look at "cytokine storm" thread or do a search to get postings now and in the past on this subject. Looks like some good old-fashioned home-remedies are in order. Good luck. D
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Originally posted by *NEO* *NEO* wrote:

Well, dad will not go to another doc, he says that he has been to one and thats enough, he also said he does not have time to go to a hospital, and he really does not have time to be sick at all. He is sitting at home working and writing emails and making phone calls, yes yes workaholic.
His doc will be testing him for malaria, she said that he does not qualify for swine flu testing because he has not been to nyc, cali or mexico, he has only been in texas and on a plane with some mexicans, not qualified !!!
 
So now he has fever still and is getting no treament, he was been told to write down his fever temps during the day and give this to the doc.
 
I hope he gets better soon.
 
Freaking bad doctor, we can only hope we dont get sick og anything, with this level of doc service... its soo sad.
 
 
Hi I´m a danish nurse. (Copenhagen)
 
You REALLY need to get your father tested right away, call the closest hospital and tell them what you have posted here.
 
You could tell your father that he need to be tetsted in order to protect other people as well as himself and the rest of his family.
 
Otherwise call Sundhedsstyrelsen´s Swine Flu Hotline tomorrow morning:
 
Hotline 72 22 85 22
Sundhedsstyrelsen har oprettet en hotline, der kan svare på spørgsmål om Ny influenza (svineinfluenza). Hotline er åbent på almindelige hverdage mellem klokken 8:30 og 17:00.
 
If you want me to help you, you can email me on skovpriv@hotmail.com
 
take care
 
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Originally posted by Sara123 Sara123 wrote:

What are you talking about? How has the flu offended your race or your Nation? And Mexicans are not coughing and sneezing all over everybody trying to give them the flu. How gross for you to make that up and say that about Mexicans.

Someone is suffering from racialism and Nationalism and it is not the people here discussing the flu pandemic. It is the person who imagined infected Mexicans purposefully trying to infect Americans and the world. May I suggest you get a grip.





ARE YOU JOKING?

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Sarcasm n. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language used to make a point utilizing ironic jest.
For example, a sarcastic remark directed at a person who consistently arrives fifteen minutes late for appointments might be told,“Oh, you've arrived exactly on time!"

Not sure how you were able to interpret my post as anything but nonsensical & sarcastic it CLEARLY was vs. the intentional vilification of Mexicans that you strongly accuse!? Especially since I am one!
    
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Originally posted by *NEO* *NEO* wrote:

<FONT style=": #000000">I am sorry if the whole mexican thing came out wrong from my side, i have nothing personal against mexicans at all.





Thank you for following up. It's nice to see & appreciated. Some posts can get quite pointed against social, eco and/or ethnic groups.

I'm confident you're father will be well. Got a stubborn one myself, but figure if he contracts H1N1 he'll eventually be too lethargic to resist us dragging him to the Dr. Hopefully, you'll get your father to a Dr much sooner than that. Good Luck to you and your family.
    
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Originally posted by Gimme Gimme wrote:

" I am thinking this flu has been misdiagnosed or just written off as "the flu". 
" We have two in elementary and they came home with a hand-out yesterday claiming "several confirmed cases of Fifth Disease", aka - parvovirus, were confirmed.

Ironically, it a lot of the same symptoms as a flu bug. Kinda confuses things a bit when trying to watch for signs/symptoms! Oh, except the red cheeks (rash) that looks like they've been slapped....really it wasn't me!

One more thing!!

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Thin skin and thick skull...   Wink

I love those with their PC hair-triggers...

Hey, let's try this one... make ol' Granny and her three year old grand daughter pull their shoes off to check for explosives at your local airport...

Some of ya'll are way over stressed. Keep in mind the largest outbreak in the US was brought back by private Catholic school students in New York after a spring break in Mexico.

If this is such a big deal as per the gov't and involved agencies, then quarantine those arriving from Mexico or close the borders. "We're here to help you, unless it means we have to take responsibility. At that point we will point fingers and distract ya'll with some impertinent event, real or imagined." 

If this blows up big time, don't blame the people!

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Finally, He went back to doctor to get a blood sample taken, this was after he called some government agency himself. The test result will take a week the doctor said.
He is feeling a bit better, but still has fever.
He will not be seeing this doctor ever again, he stated today.
 
I sure would like to tell his doc what i think of her professionalism. Shocked
 
Lets just hope he gets better and that he has not passed whatever it is he has on to many others.
 
 
 
 
 
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Finally, He went back to doctor to get a blood sample taken, this was after he called some government agency himself. The test result will take a week the doctor said.
He is feeling a bit better, but still has fever.
He will not be seeing this doctor ever again, he stated today.
 
I sure would like to tell his doc what i think of her professionalism. Shocked
 
Lets just hope he gets better and that he has not passed whatever it is he has on to many others.
 
 
 
 
 
With the Swine Flu test Denmark have it only  takes 3 hours to get the answer so somthing is totaly wrong.
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With the Swine Flu test Denmark have it only  takes 3 hours to get the answer so somthing is totaly wrong.[/QUOTE]
 
Yes, i am painfully aware of this, thats also the reason he will never see the doctor again i guess,
 
I really dont understand how this doctor can be so uninformed.
 
Letting him come back to the doctor for blod test, to test him for AH1N1, it just makes me so angry, even if he does not have it, this doctor still needs to take it seriously.
 
The secretary at the doctor said she did not even know where to send the blood sample...
 
The whole story is just so funny, well not funny but still, you have to laugh a little.
 
I am looking forward to seeing the test result on paper, because i will not believe a single word this doctor says.
 
 
 
 
 
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With the Swine Flu test Denmark have it only  takes 3 hours to get the answer so somthing is totaly wrong.[/QUOTE]
 
Yes, i am painfully aware of this, thats also the reason he will never see the doctor again i guess,
 
I really dont understand how this doctor can be so uninformed.
 
Letting him come back to the doctor for blod test, to test him for AH1N1, it just makes me so angry, even if he does not have it, this doctor still needs to take it seriously.
 
The secretary at the doctor said she did not even know where to send the blood sample...
 
The whole story is just so funny, well not funny but still, you have to laugh a little.
 
I am looking forward to seeing the test result on paper, because i will not believe a single word this doctor says.
 
 
 
 
 
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I really don´t understand why you didn´t call the danish Swine Flu hotline I provided to you Confused
If you had done that you would have gotten the help you needed.
 
 
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Well i cant really control what my dad does Smile He is kinda old school.
I did tell him that you wrote here and also gave him the option to call.
 
 
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All doctors are informed, we take test from anyone who has symptoms of flu.... blah blah blah ..... this is what the danish health minister says on the news, its just not the case, now is it, jacob axel nielsen ! He also confused tamiflu with a vaccine on the news... i dont feel he even knows what he is saying, seems like he is just telling us what he is told by the people in the ministry.

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He got sick same day he returned home, now he has gotten worse, high fever comes and goes, trouble breathing, and all the other flu symptoms.
 
First off, I'm sorry you are going through this :(
 
He did go to the doctor today, but the doctor did not know of any flu outbreak, so he got sent come. The doctor then later called him and said that after doing research the doctor admits to having gone about it all wrong, he should not have come to the office, however he can not get testet for swine flu, because the web page the doctor lokked at said that only people who had been in nyc, california and mexico, could get the test, because it was an expensive test...
 
WHAT the heck? UM, has that doctor heard of TEXAS??? That state has had cases at long as CALIFORNIA!~ Have your dad go back and tell him that he also visited California...in fact, he was in San Diego! DUMB DOCTOR!  Give the doctor THIS map!
click on the markers and it clearly shows what's going on there! AND this isn't a USA map. It's for the world...
 
 
 
 
I sure hope he gets better and also hope my mom does not get it and pass it on to her students at the school where she is theaching.
 
I hope things go ok and that he gets well fast! Best Wishes.
 
 
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Here in the USA it is taking up to 1 week to get results...they are working on getting kits to the hospitals so they can do their own swine flu test. Right now they can only tell if is is Flu in the office...if it is then they send to CDC and it is taking up to one week so not sure how it is any where else.
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Some doctors really are lax in their testing. My grandaughter and her sons went to doc this past Monday. He said they had swine flu, but that it was a mild case. No testing was done, not even bloodwork. I don't know how he determined that it was mild. They were given amoxycillin and told to take motrin and tylenol. The boys are only 2 and 3 years of age. I suggested she find a more competent doctor. I hope they start caring a little more about their profession and doing the job right or we could be in big trouble.
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grammajo...if he told you that the kids had swine flu without testing it's because maybe he thinks that is what people want to hear so he or she is telling everyone this. I would NEVER see this doctor again. What if there was a "deadly" outbreak of this virus in the fall and you go see him and he says the same thing??
I know I told this story before but I'll say it again...when my daughter was 18 months old she was really sick with 105 fever, was drinking, moving, nothing..no pee in her diaper and I could hear rattling in her chest. I took her to the doc. on Friday...he said with his stethoscope he could hear nothing...he would NOT give me antibiotics. saying it would pass and she wasn't that dehydrated since her eyes weren't sunken in yet...I was like what???!!!..well later that night I thought my daughter would die...I took her to the ER...sure enough she had a bad case of pneumonia...they had to give her 2 shots in the butt of anitibiotics along with antibiotics in her IV along with with fluids. She finally got better but every winter we noticed she could not breathe...we took her to children's hospital in Cleveland(that was after local doc said nothing to worry about she had asthma)...well it turned out both her lungs(lower lobes were collapsed)
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Call the local media if possible  !!!    Call another doc, try to get more
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So the moral of the story if you don't have a doctor to take you seriously NEVER go back to that doctor..find another one.
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I had a doctor on a holiday when my mom was sick with pneumonia and in extended care. He was golfing. He said one more day would not make a difference and she could be xrayed the next day. He finally went down and looked at her and admitted she had pneumonia, but did not order any meds and said he wanted to look at the X-ray and then would do something.
At 4:00 a.m. the next morning she died.

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 With all due respect to the profession : There are alot of docs out there good and bad, it is a customer based business- get a referral from a friend. , they are running a business, customer service is a must.  I work with a specialist and he would tell you the same thing, we often talk about customer satisfaction.  You are a paying customer.
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This is on the State Site for NY State...
 
Please add it to your state site if you like...cut and past...
 
NEO you can talk to a Doctor For Free....  Is Your Dad Online?
 
 
 
 
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My grandaughter and her sons went to doc this past Monday. He said they had swine flu, but that it was a mild case. No testing was done, not even bloodwork.
 
I don't know how he determined that it was mild. They were given amoxycillin and told to take motrin and tylenol. The boys are only 2 and 3 years of age. I suggested she find a more competent doctor. I hope they start caring a little more about their profession and doing the job right or we could be in big trouble.
Stay healthy and God bless.    Jo
 
HUH? Amoxycillin? FOR the flu? This doctor is one of the reasons for superbugs! WRONG meds  for VIRUS...just making the kids more likely to get worse bugs down the road! I'd CHANGE DOCTORS and glad you suggested it!~~ what a putz this doctor is...
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Medclinincian, I am sooooo sorry this happened to your mother and family. Oh my gosh! I'm soooo sorry.
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Originally posted by grammajo grammajo wrote:

Some doctors really are lax in their testing. My grandaughter and her sons went to doc this past Monday. He said they had swine flu, but that it was a mild case. No testing was done, not even bloodwork. I don't know how he determined that it was mild. They were given amoxycillin and told to take motrin and tylenol. The boys are only 2 and 3 years of age. I suggested she find a more competent doctor. I hope they start caring a little more about their profession and doing the job right or we could be in big trouble.
Stay healthy and God bless.    Jo
 
This is terrifying!!! This is what is happening int he world today, though! From my understanding antibiotics should NEVER be given in the case of a viral infection (virus that spreads), only in a bacterial infections (something that does not spread person to person, but an infection within yourself)
My own doctor said last month, that they started prescribing antibiotics, because they had tried everything and nothing was working. We all know though, when antibiotics are used in a situation where they're NOT needed, they lose their effectiveness, because everything becomes immune to them. That is true for anything used in a situation where it shouldn't be, and I've heard that includes the Tamiflu, as an antiviral.
 
So, what does this mean? It means all drugs that may hold hope against the worlds illnesses, are being used in the wrong situations, and it's rendering them ineffective for even their intended uses. The doctor you mentioned is probably not competent, but may have also been in the same situation as my clinic, and not known what to do with the symptoms. He should not have stated it was the "swine flu" at all, without a test. Of course, some of the dr's may know that tests are hard to get, and take a long time.
 
Unfortunately, I think our government is to blame for a lot of this. If they KNEW of this epidemic for months, and didn't inform the public or healthcare practictioners, then how is a dr. supposed to know how to treat it, or prepare for it? With the proper information, they may have been able to.
 
I don't believe you can diagnose particular cases as "mild" or not, either. Correct me if I'm wrong...but you've either got it, or not got it, right? 
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oh and NEO, how is your father doing today? I hope he's getting better.
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oh and NEO, how is your father doing today? I hope he's getting better.
 
Thank you for asking, he is doing better, we are stille waiting for the results og the flu test.
 
 
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