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    Posted: July 02 2014 at 2:36pm
Tens of thousands of immigrants who illegally crossed the Mexico border into Texas are in the process of being released into communities throughout the nation rather than being indefinitely detained or immediately deported, a congressman told Watchdog.org.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/Illegal-immigrants-neighborhoods-US/2014/07/01/id/580341#ixzz36LiDhmZY

comment: UACs were sent by U.S. .gov requested people to take in an illegal immigrant in January. The problem is many of then carry bad diseases which I come back and document.

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Med.,this is just one more of our presidents plans to cause chaos in the US. Johnray1
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Nothing in the posted article that suggests "Many are sick". Thread title is deceiving; perhaps 'deliberately' deceiving..
How is that ok? Can members explain how this kind of deliberate deception is allowed?t

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Originally posted by Guest Guest wrote:

Nothing in the posted article that suggests "Many are sick". Thread title is deceiving; perhaps 'deliberately' deceiving..
How is that ok? Can members explain how this kind of deliberate deception is allowed?t



Have you not read the growing mound of articles whos basis is that many (however many that may be) of the enemy infiltrators are in fact sick with a garden variety of pretty much everything contagious and non? I've been reading one after another after another. And yes they are enemy infiltrators intent on stealing this country by sheer numbers or else they'd of gotten in a long line just like everyone else, sick or not. My explanation to your question is there is nothing deceptive in Meds thread heading.
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Originally posted by Guest Guest wrote:

Nothing in the posted article that suggests "Many are sick". Thread title is deceiving; perhaps 'deliberately' deceiving..
How is that ok? Can members explain how this kind of deliberate deception is allowed?t



Hi guest

I think it's fairly common knowledge that many of these illegals have health issues..... Here's a few links to bring you up to speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrYr2oDfL7c

http://www.10news.com/news/questions-swirl-as-more-immigrants-hospitalized

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/07/02/Sheriff-Joe-Obama-Calculated-Border-Crisis-to-Justify-Executive-Order/

http://www.infowars.com/two-more-swine-flu-cases-confirmed-in-minor-detainees/

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2014/07/brown-shirts-threaten-medical-workers-treating-illegal-immigrants/

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/07/02/illegal-alien-invasion-scabieshead-lice-diseases-rampant-among-illegals/

http://toprightnews.com/?p=3361

http://www.alipac.us/f3/article-40-cases-active-scabies-head-lice-found-among-illegal-aliens-california-306075/



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CDC CONFIRMS ACTIVATION OF “EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER” IN RESPONSE TO IMMIGRANT INFLUX
After months, federal health agency responsible for “disease control and prevention” breaks silence.


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is responding to the public health crisis spurred by the recent surge of illegal immigrants by activating an emergency facility designed to monitor and coordinate “emergency response activities to public health threats,” the agency admitted to Infowars Tuesday.

In a taped phone call, a CDC information hotline representative confirmed that, unbeknownst to the American public, the agency has activated their intelligence arm, the Emergency Operation Center, to deal with various diseases accompanying the surge of illegal aliens currently staging a virtually uncontested U.S. invasion.

“In response to this influx of unaccompanied alien children, CDC’s Emergency Operation Center (EOC) has been activated,” the CDC rep stated, likely reading from a script. “Through this activation the EOC will work closely with the Division of Global Migration and Quarantine. CDC staff will consult on health issues and the UAC’s countries of origin, consult on shelter, water, sanitation and hygiene and provide staff for public health support.”

“The CDC Emergency Operations Center is activated during events such as hurricanes or disease outbreaks,” a 2009 CDC video about the EOC states. “When activated, CDC staff work with contacts at the state, local, and international levels 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.”

The EOC has responded to dozens of emergencies since 2001, from Hurricane Katrina to H1N1 flu outbreaks to the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and the World Trade Center attacks.

Until now, the federal government has remained largely silent on increased public health concerns linked to the immigrant influx. As we reported Saturday, the CDC ignored border agents’ pleas for help containing the spread of disease.

Numerous border agents have contracted disease from exposure to afflicted minors, and reports suggest the influx, now hailing from several parts of the world (not just Central America), may potentially bring with it deadly diseases such as dengue and the incurable ebola virus. There are also increased worries immigrants hailing from Honduras could be infected with HIV, the AIDS-causing virus.

Writing for WND.com, Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet questions the government’s shroud of silence in the face of an emerging public health crisis. Labeling the porous southern border “a gateway for disease entry,” Vliet has compiled a running list of questions regarding the CDC’s secrecy:

Why is the CDC, the U.S. agency responsible for identification, tracking and overseeing issues around infectious disease outbreaks, so strangely silent?

Why are there reports of a temporary decontamination center set up in El Paso, Texas, similar to those in use in West Africa? What is it for? What diseases have been found that would require such a facility?

Why is the CDC not on top of – and warning – the public of these increasingly serious situations?

Why are more doctors in the southern border states not already on alert to handle sudden increase in TB, adult chicken pox, measles, H1N1 influenza, dengue, Ebola, plus other unknown but lethal diseases?

As Dr. Vliet highlights, the lack of answers to these questions should concern otherwise healthy Americans. “These diseases are highly contagious, especially in crowded and poor sanitary conditions in the detention and processing centers where thousands of illegals are housed until sent to other areas of America, without full screening for such diseases,” says Vliet.

“Many of the diseases of concern, such as Ebola hemorrhagic fever, have NO effective treatments,” adds Dr. Vliet, noting infectious disease is the leading cause of death worldwide.

The government agency’s superficial response to our inquiry, and their practice of keeping things hidden from the public unfortunately do little to quell anxieties over increased health concerns.


Note from Onefluover: And that is without mention that 80 years ago Hepatitis did not exist in the United States and that ALL hepatitises originated from south of "The Border".


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If I had a health-issue and lived in a country with very limited healthcare I would try to get to a place were healthcare is better organized (for me or a relative). The increase in numbers of refugees has to do with inequality in the world. The US, Europe and Australia face the same kind of problems. Refugees ending up in shelters can be monitored, but those ending up in the streets usualy are not monitored. This is not new but the problems are (sharply) increasing. The number of refugees worldwide now is over 50 million and likely to further increase, this is a sad new record absolute number. After World War 2 that absolute number was lower. (In percentage that is different). 

Of course refugees have health-issues. After the Haïti-earthquake cholera spread to the U.S. incendently. On the other hand also tourists can bring illnesses from their trips. A third factor is climate-change; malaria is moving north.

In my opinion war and poverty are (organized) crimes. Healthcare (and education, housing etc.) is a human right. Stopping refugees going to rich countries can be done by providing better healthcare(access) in poor countries. But that should have been done a long time ago !

When only 10% of the money spent in wars would be spent constructive the world would not be in this situation. 
Que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be, The future is not ours to see, Que sera, sera !
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"A war against America":


http://www.google.com/gwt/x?u=http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/savage-media-hiding-illegal-alien-disease-threat/&ei=9K-2U8GyCNGqsAL954C4CA&wsc=oa
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Load them on jets and send them back to their home countries to deal with.
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Totally agree with you Elver!
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May god bless your country but screw everyone else.
Awesome to see your moralistic christian stance on abortion contrasted with your unwillingness to help others.
Try not to feel too superior in your "god fearing, let's preserve life" stance when you are so willing to kick others who have so much less than you, to the curb.
Shame on you.
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Look we can't save the world but we can save babies in OUR country from being killed by their mothers. The USA can't take care of these illegals. If they want to come here come legally apply and wait in line.   Let THEIR countries preserve these kids lives we give them enough money to do that already!   Obama and the Dems have made this problem because if they can break this country they can take over our government to make us totally socialist.   They are doing a great job and Hillary will finish the USA off when she is elected.
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If your world view is so limited by your politics and if that same mindset is shared by your fellow americans, then I hold no hope whatsoever for your country.
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Originally posted by Guest Guest wrote:

May god bless your country but screw everyone else.
Awesome to see your moralistic christian stance on abortion contrasted with your unwillingness to help others.
Try not to feel too superior in your "god fearing, let's preserve life" stance when you are so willing to kick others who have so much less than you, to the curb.
Shame on you.


Yes exactly. It's what I just said about winners and losers. Welcome to the real world. It's like a big football -or, OK, soccer- game. For someone to win, someone HAS to loose. It doesn't mean we hate you for not being us. But we're not going to hate ourselves just to hand it all over to you. The strong take away from the weak, -but the smart take away from the strong. It's human nature. We simply, as a country, outsmarted everyone else. That doesn't make us bad or evil or even maybe right but it is what it is... What's yours?
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Then don't spout your moralistic garbage about abortion and saving innocent lives.

The US is in a serious decline and has been for years. Classic rise and fall, rotting from within, crappy education, zero healthcare, etc.

Haven't been the strongest for awhile.... And haven't been the smartest for a long, long while....
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Originally posted by Guest Guest wrote:

May god bless your country but screw everyone else.
Awesome to see your moralistic christian stance on abortion contrasted with your unwillingness to help others.
Try not to feel too superior in your "god fearing, let's preserve life" stance when you are so willing to kick others who have so much less than you, to the curb.
Shame on you.
 
God does command us to stand up for Life, the widow & the orphan... but He also commands us to follow the law.  Rewarding others for breaking the law in my own opinion is not right:
 
Romans 13 1-7
 

Submission to the Authorities

1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
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I'll live by my sense or right and wrong any day rather than your 'scriptures' in whose name so much evil and
hurt and pain has been caused. And continue to be caused.

You are spouting garbage ....
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Hi guest
I'd appreciate it if you didn't derail this important thread by going off topic on some moral crusade. You have been deliberately antagonistic in your posts suggesting you have an agenda. Also, why are you posting from an unknown IP address?
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Question: "How should a Christian respond to illegal aliens/illegal immigrants?"

Answer:
Illegal immigration has become a volatile issue, especially in the U.S. Many have raised their voices passionately in their condemnation of illegal immigration while others defend it just as fervently. The subject of illegal immigration has not only generated heated debate, but has caused intense division and strife among politicians, educators, co-workers, families, and friends. Sadly enough, its contentiousness has infused itself into the church with Christians drawn into the turbulent fray with supporters on both sides seeking to justify their positions based on their own personal beliefs.

So, what does the Bible say about illegal immigration? What should be the Christian response to those who enter our country illegally as well as to those who condone and support such activity? The first consideration is that those who enter any country illegally violate that nation’s laws as well as the laws of God. Believers are torn between showing compassion and mercy to those who seek help and not wanting to violate God’s will.

Sadly, we have brothers and sisters in Christ fighting over the issue of illegal immigration where the Bible is quite clear on what our Christian response should be: “The LORD detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness” (Proverbs 15:9; see also 28:5; Psalm 5:4–5). When we condone criminal activity where people blatantly and habitually violate the laws of our government, we no longer “shine like stars in the universe” (Philippians 2:15). The Bible makes it clear that those who violate the laws of government are in sin, as are those who support or assist them in breaking the laws (Romans 13:1–7; 1 Peter 2:13–14; Titus 3:1–2).

Peter’s reference to “those who do wrong” in 1 Peter 2:14 clearly means those who break the laws and who, by doing so, are also guilty of doing wrong to others. These are to be punished by the governing authorities. Paul has made it abundantly clear that the government is in the best position to judge the course of action that should be taken to find solutions to this problem. Our government has the divine authority to do so. Whether or not the government authorities exercise their legal and divine right to enforce the laws doesn’t change the fact that the church cannot knowingly support illegal activity and be in the will of God. To condone or aid and abet people who cross borders illegally is sin, just as the initial act of coming into the country illegally is sin.

At the same time, as Christians, we have to separate our attitude toward the act of entering the country illegally from our attitude toward the illegals themselves. The first obligation of a Christian is to express Christlikeness in all our thoughts and deeds (Romans 8:29). There is no room for hatred toward those who come into the country, albeit illegally, desperately seeking work, refuge from danger and persecution, or a better life for themselves and their families. Christian compassion must be shown toward those who would risk their lives in a dangerous, and often fatal, attempt to cross a border. Acts of hatred or violence toward illegal aliens is never to be considered or tolerated by those who name the name of Christ.


http://www.gotquestions.org/illegal-aliens-immigrants.html
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You can live by any beliefs you want... I was simply showing you how those who follow the bible explain their stance on illegal immigration, which is what I thought you wanted an explanation on.  Sorry, Rickster58, you are right.. this has gotten a bit OT. 
 
The dangers of illegal aliens bringing in disease & viruses is a real threat to our country.  If an anchor on CNN that I heard with my own ears will use the phrase "... and many are sick & in need of medical treatment..." then you know it's a big enough problem to report here.  end point.
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