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pregnantw/#1
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 5:21pm |
What's the best way to get rid of garbage if you can't go out of your apparment?
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I would probably put it in my sink or bathtub.....if it was next to a window and burn it in small amounts. At night when no one could see the smoke.
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Rhonda
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I have started to get rid of as much trash as possible now. I have repackaged alot of my preps into ziplock bags getting rid of boxes (pasta , Rice mixes )I cut the directions off and put them into snack size ziplocks and put them into the bags . Hope this helps.
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LOTS of garbage bags, with strong ties, and a place to store the stuff for 3 months+.
OJ
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Scout motto - "Be Prepared"
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Penham
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Rhonda, what a great idea about the packaging. I live in a house, pregnant/w#1, so this probably wouldn't work for you, I plan on using a metal trash can to burn paper garbage. There should very little/no food garbage, will feed to animals if there is any. I was thinking about starting bins for recycling tin cans and aluminum (don't do that now) but then saving until it's safe to take to the recycling center afterwards. Have been considering starting a compost pile.
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Rotting garbage could be a health hazard and could attract rodents, insects etc.
If you have a blender, you could try using it to liquify your leftover food scraps and then flush the liquid down the toilet.
When you are about to go into isolation, cast your eye around the apartment for stuff that could become potential garbage such as newspapers, excessive food packaging, etc. and get rid of what you can then. Cancel your newspaper subscription if have one.
Have some alternatives to paper towels such as reusable sponges and cloth products. Consider buying some cloth napkins if you use paper napkins now. Reusable cloth handkerchiefs would also cut down on the amount of your paper garbage.
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I agree with Rhonda, get rid of as much of it as possible now. It's amazing how much space you save which is critical and allows you to prep more.
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Bill 100
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I think I am more likely to crush the cans and burn the rest in my yard. I have a trash can I use as a fire bucket. Maybe bury what is left. I was wondering about sewage, without running water keeping it clear, I can see it blocking up. We might have to dump our bad water in the same hole we dump our toilet waste. If I lived in a apartment, the first part of my prepping would be to leave the apartment. Stay with Parents or the inlaws, someone that has a house. I hate to say it, and I feel for them, but I don't see how they can do it in a apartment. |
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I live in a house so I compost food waste and recycle now. In Toronto its expected . BY doing that I have only one bag of garbage every two weeks. Some people compete to see who can have the least garbage.
I will put my dry food in zipper bags to reduce future gargage. I will us rainwater to rince the cans and crush the cans. Apartment living will be challenging as the garbage build up will be unbearable. It time to consider alternate housing combing families and renting a house. |
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In an emergency, I would recomend attempting to eat all the food in a container. If you are using canned food get it all out. You may need a few ounces of water to rinse out the can. This will prevent it from attracting roaches, mice etc. Paper plates cups etc should not have extra food on them when thrown away. I will keep them in a metal pail with lid until I can safely burn them either in the fireplace or outside.
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Sanitation and Hygiene In An EmergencyThe lack of sanitation facilities following major disaster can quickly create secondary problems unless basic guidelines are followed.
Tips for Staying Clean in an Emergency Situation As much as possible, continue regular hygiene habits such as brushing your teeth, washing your face, combing your hair and even washing your body with a wet washcloth. This will help prevent the spread of disease and irritation as well as help relieve stress.
Keep Basic Hygiene Supplies Handy These basic supplies should be kept in your Safe Room, Go Pack and Car.
Emergency Sewage Disposal Water flush toilets cannot be used when water service is interrupted. The water remaining in the fixture is not sufficient to flush the wastes down the sewer. Clogging may result and your living conditions then become just that much more uncomfortable. |
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4thegirls,
Thank you that was great info! Blessings!
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pregnantw/#1
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Thanks! I printed the article, it's full of good information :)
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Penham
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This thread has some good information!
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Rocky
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Hi. does anyone remember the "recipe" for home-made wipes. I do remember that you take the roll out of paper towels, cut them into squares and put them in a sealed container. I think there was some combination of baby oil, soap, etc that was poured over the papers to make them a quick solution for handwipes, body wipes, etc. Thanks. Rocky
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I have a worm bin to deal with my trash.I read Worms Eat My Garbage, by Mary Applehof.I got my supplies from www.wormwrld.com.I received quick sevice from them.As well as a very detailed informational booklet.I am in no way connected to either Mary Applehof, or Worm World. I'm just a satified customer.
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sweetpea
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Another suggestion here ... I've seen "composting" toilets out there in cyber-space, which seems like a good solution ... using wood chips to compost "waste" in and understanding it takes care of the "smell" as well. May have to google "composting toilets." As for the baby wipes, I remember "seeing" that as well ... what I remembered from that because I had bought all the supplies ... was papertowels, liquid baby soap, water and baggies.. Just enough baby soap in water to work up some slight suds and pour over the towels in the baggie. But first, take out the cardboard tube, and another suggestion is to cut the roll of towel in half to extend your "wipes" alittle further.
Hope this helps ...
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"When an emergency arises, the time for preparation is past."
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Sweetpea, that composting toilet system using sawdust is here, he calls it Humanure. He has an entire book devoted to this subject posted on the web. It covers the building of the toilet, maintenance and disposal. It also resembles the real thing which can be placed in the bathroom reducing stress and will be more comforting than using a plain bucket. Here are some samples of these things.
Steve
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For once in my life I hope I'm wasting money!
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sweetpea
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thanx ... weird-one (steve)
I remember seeing it before, I just didn't log it under favorites becuase I had printed it out and shelved it ... seems to be a better approach than having to balance one's self on a bucket ... and some look more presentable as well.
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sweetpea
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... beats going out in the cold to the outhouse anyday ... !
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"When an emergency arises, the time for preparation is past."
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Weird-one
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Sweetpea, The fact that it looks more presentable and is more "normal" is the biggest reason I choose this system. We could hang our butts over a bucket but that seems very uncivilized. I want to make things as normal as possible for the little woman to reduce fear and stress so I put the effort into building one of these. Perching over a plain bucket seems precarious and I don't relish the thought of accidentally tipping the bucket over. We live in the city and I don't want to dig a hole in my back yard. It may also be dangerous to go outside and I feel the most vulnerable when I'm "thinking" Steve
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For once in my life I hope I'm wasting money!
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Penham
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Wow, some of those composting toilets are nice! Yes, that would be nicer than a bucket. Thanks for the links Steve!
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newprepper
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Yes those composting toilets are just the thing. We have only a small back yard tho and won't be able to build the gizmos to compost the stuff. But, at least the toilet will be lots more comfortable.
One of the other posts up above mentioned using chlorox as a disinfectant for toilet waste. But, it the waste also contains urine, then that isn't a good idea as chorine and ammonia (urine) produce a toxic gas.
What other disinfectant would be good to use instead?
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Try using garden lime (not the little green citrus fruit) to control odor and aid decomposition of solid waste in your emergency toilet facility (bucket). Use just enough to cover the waste. If you are dumping the waste into another container or hole in the ground, then by all means rinse your bucket with a bleach solution. There should not be a high enough ammonia concentration in your urine to cause any more damage than plain bleach and it will be a LOT more user-friendly for the next person.
Be sure you are working in a well ventilated area. During a time of respiratory illness (or any time for that matter) the last thing you need is to burn the lining of your lungs with chlorine fumes - this also goes for the dry powder folks are getting for water purification.
If you have a cat or know someone who has a cat, consider using the 5-gallon type buckets that some cat litter comes in. You can rig it to use your regular toilet seat for seating (or purchase a spare in advance when someplace has a sale). I have a bucket filled with several rolls of toilet paper, a bunch of plastic trash bags for bucket liners (easier waste removal & transport), a bottle of bleach, a small box of tissues, and a bottle of hand sanitizer. Be sure to save the bucket lid! You'll want to be able to cover the bucket both while in storage and during times of need.
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preg,
you do not want garbage in the house. everyone will have the same problem. if you cant go out, then pick the least seen side of your apartment and toss it out the window. if thshtf you will be surprised at what people will do. you take care of yourself.
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Sassy
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separate and wash, little bleach and water will clean your cans and jars, bleach solution can be used several times. What SMELLS in trash is food waste! I learned waste not want not! Find a DOG to feed left overs if need be. If you have or will be having an infant or older person in diapers. GET use to cloth. Rinse in a 5 gal bucket and reuse the rinse water, keep a lid on it. Shesh what the hell do you think your ancestors did B4 trash pick up????? |
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Sassy
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Tigger I wished I knew were you LIVED just to toss so I could tell everyone , OH well its me and mine and heres my ****ty smelly trash!!! Try it and lets see what happens. If you would do that to me I would meet you with my 44
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sweetpea
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sassy ... I think you could follow the trail back to the east coast ...
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