Lithuania /H5N1 Death of sailor suspected

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   Indian sailor dies in Lithuanian port, bird flu suspected - 

ministry

  VILNIUS (AFX) - An Indian sailor who died in the Lithuanian port of 

Klaipedamay have been infected with bird flu, the Lithuanian health 

ministry said.

    "A member of the crew of the ship MV Ocean Wind, Indian citizen 

ShaikhRafikque, died in Klaipeda today. The suspected cause of death is 

bird flu," astatement from the ministry said.

    "Rafikque, who was the ship's cook, fell ill on Feb 4, according to 

reportsfrom the crew," the statement said. "He died in a 

medicalemergency vehicle ontoday."

    A preliminary autopsy will be conducted on the 62-year-old's body in

Klaipeda, with a more thorough analysis to be undertaken in the capital,

Vilnius, within 48 hours.The final results of the autopsy are expected in a 

few days, the statement said.

 The Ocean Wind arrived in Lithuania from Germany on Jan 17, according 

to the ministry.newsdesk@afxnews.com

*"Rafikque, who was the ship's cook, fell ill on Feb 4, according to reports 

from the crew," the statement said. "He died in a medical emergency 

vehicle on today."

 http://freeserve.advfn.com/news_Inian-sailor-dies-in-Lithuan ian-

port--bird-flu-suspected---ministry_14086194.htm

Edited by Rick

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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Lithuania /H5N1 Death of sailor suspected Posted: February 06 2006 at 9:01am
	Indian sailor dies in Lithuanian port, bird flu suspected - ministry VILNIUS (AFX) - An Indian sailor who died in the Lithuanian port of Klaipedamay have been infected with bird flu, the Lithuanian health ministry said. "A member of the crew of the ship MV Ocean Wind, Indian citizen ShaikhRafikque, died in Klaipeda today. The suspected cause of death is bird flu," astatement from the ministry said. "Rafikque, who was the ship's cook, fell ill on Feb 4, according to reportsfrom the crew," the statement said. "He died in a medicalemergency vehicle ontoday." A preliminary autopsy will be conducted on the 62-year-old's body in Klaipeda, with a more thorough analysis to be undertaken in the capital, Vilnius, within 48 hours.The final results of the autopsy are expected in a few days, the statement said. The Ocean Wind arrived in Lithuania from Germany on Jan 17, according to the ministry.newsdesk@afxnews.com *"Rafikque, who was the ship's cook, fell ill on Feb 4, according to reports from the crew," the statement said. "He died in a medical emergency vehicle on today." http://freeserve.advfn.com/news_Inian-sailor-dies-in-Lithuan ian- port--bird-flu-suspected---ministry_14086194.htm Edited by Rick

Cathie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: December 09 2005 Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cathie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 10:11am
	Rick, Thanks for you news update. Do you know how the sailor contracted the BF.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 10:36am
	"Rick, Thanks for you news update. Do you know how the sailor contracted the BF." ------ I'm trying to connect the dots like everyone else. Lets do some sketching, - The sailor is from India which has never reported H5, yet has reported mass bird death "poisonings" recently (no explantion why), Hmmm.... - The sailor was a cook. - The cook, if docked since Jan 17, had acccess to fresh chicken. - The cook died in three-days. Consistent with H5 pathology. - A few months ago Nepal/India had scores of young children die from "Japenese Encephalitis". The disease seemed to strike young kids, and deaths were rapid, sypmtomology was consistant with H5, Hmmm.. The million-dollar question, what is the vector in Lithuania, H2H, or a non-H2H source? That answer will as the CDC said, "buy us some time". Do yourself a favour put a few N-95's aside for insurance, while you still can. My 2-cents. Edited by Rick

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 10:40am
	"A preliminary autopsy will be conducted on the 62-year- old�s body in Klaipeda, with a more thorough analysis to be undertaken in the Lithuanian capital of Vilnius, within 48 hours. The final results of the autopsy are expected in a few days. The ship arrived in Lithuania from Germany on January 17". http://mosnews.com/news/2006/02/06/lithuaniabirdflu.shtml

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 11:01am
	They still don't know?? We be able to tell them when the BF is causing illness over here.

Angel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: December 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 11:13am
	They are saying the ship was in the dock for repairs...it had been docked there since January 17th .
	Angel

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 11:37am
	Angel, Thanks for pointing out the date Jan 17. It connects one of the dots. The cook's age is significant as well. Edited by Rick

Angel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: December 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 12:53pm
	It was a Liberian flagged ship. Ship Captain was also Indian. He did not given permission for an autopsy. On the ship was 30 crew...29 Indian and 1 Ukrainian. A team to disinfect the ship is being sent.
	Angel

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 1:37pm
	Nice catch, Angel. " 29 Indian and 1 Ukrainian. A team to disinfect the ship is being sent."

swankyc Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List V.I.P. Member Joined: January 11 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote swankyc Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 06 2006 at 6:51pm
	I think this post was duplicated. Anyway, these people prolly got it from this guy. http://www.superflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1244&PN= 1
	I'm not afraid, I'm paranoid. Dont talk too loud, they are listening.

Angel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: December 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:07am
	They are saying he did not die of bird flu. He had chest and arm pain (possible heart attack) and died in an ambulance.
	Angel

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	As H5N1 has moved into areas with slightly better reporting, and as public & media awareness has risen sharply since the events in Turkey, I think it could be wise to start treating these news items a little differently now? Because at this rate we are going to start seeing a large number of unrelated human deaths being reported as possible bird flue, we will be swamped with information, and as many of them will turn out to be false it could actually increase complacency - 'boy who cried wolf' stuff?

Teagen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List V.I.P. Member Joined: February 06 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote Teagen Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:22am
	Angel, Who is saying he died of a heart attack ? And if that is the case how can the Lithuanian health ministry have possibly mistaken it for BF ?

elbows Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List V.I.P. Member Joined: February 06 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 339	Post Options Post Reply Quote elbows Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:26am
	I feel sorry for health ministry spokesman, they are damned if they do and damned if they dont. We want them to treat all possible bird flu cases as if they may well be H5N1, we get mad if they coverup publically, but we cannot have our cake and eat it. Vigilance is clearly increased, this is a good sign, but it will lead to a lot more reports that turn out to be false. In the absense of better data on symptoms, autopsy, testing etc, our own optimism (or lack of) is going to be at least as big a factor in what we decide to believe is the reality of these situations, false alarm or coverup? Edited by elbows

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:47am
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elbows Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List V.I.P. Member Joined: February 06 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 339	Post Options Post Reply Quote elbows Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:49am
	So far Ive only found one story about it not being bird flu, and it lacks detail: http://www.baltictimes.com/hot1.php?art_id=14579

Angel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Valued Member Joined: December 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 346	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: February 07 2006 at 11:58am
	I found the article in The Baltic Times...it was dated Feb. 7th.
	Angel