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Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk

STOP FACTORY FARMS = STOP BIRD FLU

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Sounds like sensible fair minded comment to me.
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Nigerian Doctor warns against the dangers of small poultry operations with flocks outdoors and exposed to Infection. 

Once again emphasising how much safer and more easily controlled
large well managed operations can be ( although frankly I would be
surprised if the standard is very high in Nigeria ).

http://www.thetidenews.com/article.aspx?qrDate=04/17/2007&qrTitle=Bird%20flu%20and%20human%20survival&qrColumn=FOCUS

Dr Shuaib Belgore, the officer in charge of the human health component of Nigeria’s Avian Influenza Control Project, identifies some risk factors for the continuous spread of the Bird Flu in the country. Belgore notes that the country lies along two important world birds’ migratory routes, the East Atlantic flyway and the East Africa-West Asia flyway.

This is significant in that migratory birds on seasonal transcontinental migrations have been identified as the vectors of the deadly flu. Secondly, he noted that 60 per cent of the country’s estimated 140 million poultry stocks are believed to be from the backyard poultry, while - the rest 40 per cent are from commercial poultry farms across the country..................



....How to tackle the disease and imbibe the best safe practices for people to avoid contracting the disease. He says that the Bird Flu could spread faster in the rural areas because in many villages around the country, there is a higher risk because domestic poultry, which is normally kept outdoors, could easily become infected as they scavenge for food.

Dr Garba Sharubutu, national president of the Nigerian Veterinary Medical Association, shares a similar concern as he noted the dearth of veterinary personnel in the country, particularly in the rural areas, to monitor and control the spread of Avian Flu in the rural areas.

Another potential site for easy transmission of the Avian Influenza is the poultry markets located across the country. The risk of contracting the flu in poultry markets is highly emphasised by Thomas Egwang, the chief executive officer of Uganda Media for Health, a Kampala-based non-governmental organisation.

He says that crowded poultry markets, with their inevitable droppings, constitute another worrisome source of bird flu infections and as such these markets, scattered across African towns and villages, must, therefore, be priority battle grounds in the fight against bird flu on the continent.


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Ross, your unattributed screaming quote above from the article that you don't link was written by a journalist about something he calls H5Nl, not H5N1. The journalist also tells us that there have been no human-to-human infections.

I'm sorry to say that with this you've worn me out on trying to keep this thread useful by identifying deliberate disinformation.
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#     "the screaming Quote "  --- the font used is from the newspaper
                                                 article not mine.

 
#       The link to the article is given , but the communications link to
          the Server is troubled .  If you keep trying you will eventually
          get through .

#        I am neither the Journalist or his source .
          If you feel there is dis-information involved it is not of
          my doing.

#        I am unspeakably distressed by the thought of you
          being "worn out " .
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Thanks for the useful contribution.
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Kevin I actually think the warnings about factory farming are valuable .

The error ( as I see it ) is to call for them to be banned , rather than
encouraging/demanding higher standards.

If you were to go back and change  your very first posts thread
heading  to  something like "Factory Farms are Dangerous "   with
a corresponding shift towards reform rather than banning , then
you may well find many more people supporting you , including myself. 






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Ross... I will only agree to not wanting to ban Poultry Factory Farming...
 
If each hen can have her own house.
 
because...
 
 "Factory Farms are Dangerous " 
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Kparcel...  it seems a small thing.   what say you?   If you change the topic heading....................... we can proceed in peace Big smile
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"change  your very first posts thread
heading  to  something like
 
"Factory Farms are Dangerous "
 
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     "Own house ,  Cable TV and free  egg care " ?

I was looking  for a real change in message rather
than just a token name change .

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Shameless defense of factory farming

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,,2059592,00.html

'Only intensive farming' will feed Britain

· Organic agriculture 'will never meet demand'
· Professor warns of soaring prices and shortages

David Adam, environment correspondent
Wednesday April 18, 2007
The Guardian

Britain must continue to intensify its farming practices to meet soaring demand for cheap food and prevent shortages, a leading agricultural expert said yesterday. Demand for biofuels, booming economies of developing countries and climate change will put demand on food supplies that can only be met by intensive techniques, said Professor Bill McKelvey, head of the Scottish Agricultural College. Prices could soar and future generations in the UK may find they can no longer take plentiful food for granted.

At a London briefing, Prof McKelvey defended intensive techniques and said alternatives such as organic farming would not cope with predicted growth in population. "There is a need to continue to intensify farming. Organic farming has a place but it will never feed the growing population of the world," he said.
Media criticism of modern farming techniques after the bird flu outbreak at the Bernard Matthews turkey farm in Suffolk had been unfair, he said, adding that intensive farming protects the environment because it reduces the amount of land used for agriculture. Europe would also have to overcome its "illogical" opposition to genetically modified crops to help boost yields, he said.

"In the UK, we are becoming less self-sufficient in food. I think it's possible in the next 25 to 50 years that there will be food shortages in the UK." The proportion of average British family income spent on food might double from 10% to 20%, he said. The UK currently provides 60% of its own food, and imports were increasing, said Prof McKelvey, who advises industry and the government.

With world population forecast to grow from 6bn to 8.5bn in 50 years, he warned that countries such as New Zealand that export food to Britain were likely to switch attention to China and India. Food demand there is increasing sharply and meat consumption in China has doubled in the last decade. Prof McKelvey said the solution was farmers producing more food on the same amount of land. Wheat production increased four-fold in the last 50 years and in the next 50 years would probably have to rise by the same level again, despite a shortage of suitable land. "There are only two ways to do that. We either take land from rain forests or we intensify existing farms. We will protect the wild environment by making better use of farms."

Plant breeding - conventional and using genetic modification - was the best way to produce more food from the same amount of land. Although very little is grown commercially in Europe, millions of hectares of GM crops have been grown across the world in recent years.

"Europe is going to have to face up to using GM crops," he said. Climate change is also expected to put pressure on food supplies, despite an initial boost in productivity for some crops.

Prof McKelvey said great swathes of agricultural land would be lost to desert, with the effects already felt in areas such as southern Spain. Bio-fuels, a suggested solution to global warming, could bring added problems for food production.

Patrick Holden of the Soil Association, which promotes organic farming, said "business as usual" intensive farming would not be possible in future because of the fossil fuel costs and the greenhouse gas emissions associated with nitrogen fertilisers. Organic farming could equal and sometimes even exceed the yields of chemical intensive farming systems. "The challenge that global agriculture confronts today is to research and develop these systems, because we are on the threshold of a post-fossil fuel era."
    
    
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America's farmers are disappearing

By Cheryl Fritsch

Well, there goes another one. Another New York state dairy farmer has been forced out of production.

This is the second one I know of in one week. This one was a third-generation farmer who was proud to be a farmer, who took good care of his animals, and who took pride in the excellent quality of the milk produced. He is no longer able to provide for his family on a 1980s-equivalent milk payment in a 2007 world. The price charged in the stores has risen, but he never saw the increase.


He told us that between 2005 and 2006, there were 450 or so farmers forced to sell out. That's 1.2 farmers per day. Then to add insult to injury, the government dragged its feet in providing some type of flood aid for farmers for the floods of '06 -- and then when it was passed, it was for only half of what had been asked. Too little, too late.

Pretty soon we will have to look outside New York for food sources. If statistics keep going as they are, we'll all have to look outside the country. Wake up! Haven't the scares with mad cow disease, bird flu and, most recently, the pet food poisoning (which has been traced back to wheat gluten in China) taught us anything? American farmers are under strict guidelines that other countries don't have to follow. This allows inferior and possibly tainted products to enter our foods that we eat every day.

We won't have to worry about the weapons of mass destruction. Our enemies are smart enough to figure that we aren't smart enough to realize that we as a nation are blessed with abundance, grown right here at home. Once our American farmers are done being abused and forced out and we have to import foods, we will be at the mercy of countries that are not friendly to the United States.

Did you enjoy that savory, juicy steak? Was that fresh, cold glass of milk refreshing? Was that salad crisp and fresh? Well, run out and thank a farmer, but you'd better hurry because they are disappearing fast and if you wait too long you won't be able to find one.

http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070418/OPINION/704180309/1005/OPINION
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BF prevention measures somehow don't apply to commercial farms in residential neighborhoods of Jakarta

"The administration must also be consistent in applying its ban. Currently, there are still several poultry farms located in residential areas."

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailcity.asp?fileid=20070418.C07&irec=6
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More support for Large Scale Intensive farming.

KJP - Thanks for the post  Smile



· Organic agriculture 'will never meet demand'
· Professor warns of soaring prices and shortages


David Adam, environment correspondent
Wednesday April 18, 2007
The Guardian

   

Britain must continue to intensify its farming practices to meet soaring demand for cheap food and prevent shortages, a leading agricultural expert said yesterday. Demand for biofuels, booming economies of developing countries and climate change will put demand on food supplies that can only be met by intensive techniques, said Professor Bill McKelvey, head of the Scottish Agricultural College. Prices could soar and future generations in the UK may find they can no longer take plentiful food for granted.

 

At a London briefing, Prof McKelvey defended intensive techniques and said alternatives such as organic farming would not cope with predicted growth in population. "There is a need to continue to intensify farming. Organic farming has a place but it will never feed the growing population of the world," he said.

Media criticism of modern farming techniques after the bird flu outbreak at the Bernard Matthews turkey farm in Suffolk had been unfair, he said, adding that intensive farming protects the environment because it reduces the amount of land used for agriculture. Europe would also have to overcome its "illogical" opposition to genetically modified crops to help boost yields, he said.

"In the UK, we are becoming less self-sufficient in food. I think it's possible in the next 25 to 50 years that there will be food shortages in the UK." The proportion of average British family income spent on food might double from 10% to 20%, he said. The UK currently provides 60% of its own food, and imports were increasing, said Prof McKelvey, who advises industry and the government.

With world population forecast to grow from 6bn to 8.5bn in 50 years, he warned that countries such as New Zealand that export food to Britain were likely to switch attention to China and India. Food demand there is increasing sharply and meat consumption in China has doubled in the last decade. Prof McKelvey said the solution was farmers producing more food on the same amount of land. Wheat production increased four-fold in the last 50 years and in the next 50 years would probably have to rise by the same level again, despite a shortage of suitable land. "There are only two ways to do that. We either take land from rain forests or we intensify existing farms. We will protect the wild environment by making better use of farms."

Plant breeding - conventional and using genetic modification - was the best way to produce more food from the same amount of land. Although very little is grown commercially in Europe, millions of hectares of GM crops have been grown across the world in recent years.

"Europe is going to have to face up to using GM crops," he said. Climate change is also expected to put pressure on food supplies, despite an initial boost in productivity for some crops.

Prof McKelvey said great swathes of agricultural land would be lost to desert, with the effects already felt in areas such as southern Spain. Bio-fuels, a suggested solution to global warming, could bring added problems for food production.

Patrick Holden of the Soil Association, which promotes organic farming, said "business as usual" intensive farming would not be possible in future because of the fossil fuel costs and the greenhouse gas emissions associated with nitrogen fertilisers. Organic farming could equal and sometimes even exceed the yields of chemical intensive farming systems. "The challenge that global agriculture confronts today is to research and develop these systems, because we are on the threshold of a post-fossil fuel era."



 




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http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-35/1176994045280460.xml&coll=6

Flu epidemic is 'inevitable,' expert says
Thursday, April 19, 2007
By Pat Shellenbarger
The Grand Rapids Press
The question is not whether an influenza pandemic will strike, an expert on the disease said. It is when.

"Certainly another pandemic is inevitable," said Dr. Michael Greger, director of public health and animal agriculture for the Humane Society of the United States, noting worldwide epidemics occur on average every 27 1/2 years. The last was in 1968.

"We don't know how soon it will be," he said.

Most likely, it will be the bird flu, said Greger, who will speak about that possibility during a free lecture Friday evening at Calvin College and Saturday morning at Herrick District Library in Holland.

But do not blame the birds. Bird flu and some other illnesses are the result of how poultry and other animals are raised in large factory farms, he said.

"Chickens used to peck around the barnyard," said Greger, author of the book "Bird Flu: A Virus of Our Own Hatching." "Now we cram them in these sheds beak-to-beak in their own excrement."

He compared a potential bird flu pandemic to the 1918 Spanish flu, believed to be the most deadly pandemic in history, infecting half the world's population, 25 percent of Americans and killing 20 million to 100 million people worldwide.

The bird flu virus, known as H5N1, bears some similarity to the 1918 flu, Greger said. Like its predecessor, bird flu appears to be most deadly among young adults in the prime of life. Medical researchers believe the 1918 flu turned the body's immune system against itself, virtually destroying victims' lungs. Thus, those with the strongest immune systems tended to be the most vulnerable.

Bird flu so far has killed about half the humans it infected, mostly in Southeast Asia among those who live and work closely with poultry. If the virus mutates, Grand Rapids could be spared the worst. Of 45 cities with more than 100,000 residents studied by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Grand Rapids had one of the lowest mortality rates during the 1918 outbreak, Greger said. In Grand Rapids, the disease killed 1.9 people per 1,000, compared with 10.3 deaths per thousand in Pittsburgh.

"We don't even know if H5N1 biologically has the capacity to mutate to a human form," Greger said. "We may get lucky."

But he doubts it.

Send e-mail to the author: pshellenbarger@grpress.com
    
    
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RSPB says poultry industry in denial

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http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2007/04/avian_flu_report.html

UK bird 'flu outbreak: wild birds exonerated
19-04-2007

The publication by Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) of the final epidemiology report into the Avian Influenza outbreak in Suffolk confirmed that the probable cause of infection was through imported meat products from Hungary.

The RSPB (BirdLife in the UK) is disappointed that the Bernard Matthews Company has used this report to call for further monitoring of wild birds, which have been exonerated as a vector in this outbreak.

In making such a call, the company opens the question of who should pay for even the current surveillance measures. The RSPB, along with other conservation charities, have been undertaking wild bird surveillance since the autumn of 2005.

"The cost to the RSPB alone has been £170,000 ($340,000) . The company stands to receive almost £600,000 ($1.2 million) in compensation while conservation charities shoulder the burden of surveillance with no cost to the poultry industry or DEFRA," said Dr. Mark Avery, the RSPB’s Director of Conservation.

"Calling for more work without acknowledging their readiness to contribute to the costs of a scheme designed to protect their industry reveals a worrying state of denial within the industry." —Dr. Mark Avery, Director of Conservation, RSPB.

Last month a comprehensive critical review of recent scientific literature on the spread of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1, published in the British Ornithologists Union journal Ibis, concluded that poultry trade, rather than bird migration, is the main mechanism of global dispersal of the virus.
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Here is a trip back to may 2004 to see exactly how HPAI H5N2 in Texas was eradicated . "We had early notification," said Coats [then Max Coats was deputy director of group administering emergency response; today Coats is the new US rep assisting Indonesia on BF]. "We had a prompt diagnosis. We had a plan. We had trained people lined up to take the plan and put it into action."

http://www.window.state.tx.us/comptrol/fnotes/fn0407/fighting.html

Take a look, and read about how a large team of experts with unlimited funding did everything right to prevent spread between commercial farms of an outbreak at one farm in Gonzalas, Texas, by quarantining every aspect of commercial activity, including the team itself, motivated by the need to protect the industry - this virus was not dangerous to people.

God bless and good luck to Dr. Coats in his new role in Indonesia, where there are outbreaks among poultry happening in remote locations, unreliable notification, delays in testing, inedequate staff, and so far no plan has worked.
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...speaking of H5N2, here's a new report about recent W. Virginia outbreak
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http://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseWire/default.cfm?Action=ReleaseDetail&ID=16227

United Poultry Concerns Clarifies H5N2 Pathogenicity, Number of Turkeys Killed

United Poultry Concerns
April 19, 2007

For Immediate Release
Contact: Karen Davis 757-678-7875
www.upc-online.org

On April 18, 2007, United Poultry Concerns (UPC) issued a news release, “Turkeys with Avian Flu Killed with Firefighting Foam in West Virginia” (http://www.upc-online.org/nr/041807wvturkeys.html). The UPC release cited an article posted on the Internet (http://www.lancasterfarming.com/node/521) about the use of firefighting foam to exterminate what looked to be 15,000 turkeys on a farm confirmed with the H5N2 avian influenza virus at the end of March. The release said the birds were infected with “the highly pathogenic avian influenza virus, H5N2.” The release should have said – and here are the corrections – that 25,000 turkeys were exterminated when tests showed the farm to be infected with the “potentially highly pathogenic avian influenza virus, H5N2.”

That is, H5N2, while not invariably highly pathogenic, has like all H5 viruses the potential to become highly pathogenic, particularly in high-density poultry operations, according to experts including University of Ottawa virologist Dr. Earl Brown, a specialist in influenza virus evolution (http://www.upc-online.org/poultry_diseases/53106flu.html).

For example, “an outbreak of the H5N2 virus some 20 years ago in the United States became highly pathogenic, causing greater than 90 percent mortality among infected poultry flocks,” wrote Dan Murphy in “The Vocal Point,” on www.meatingplace.com, July 29, 2005. He went on to cite a “recent report from the World Health Organization [which noted that> even the less dangerous strains of bird flu viruses, after circulating for just a short time within a poultry flock, can now mutate into highly pathogenic agents, causing ‘sudden onset, severe illness and rapid death, with a mortality that can approach 100 percent.’”

According to Dr. John Clifford (USDA-APHIS), the H5N2 virus that appeared on the West Virginia turkey farm last month was “consistent with low pathogenic strains of avian influenza.” The office told UPC today that this finding has been confirmed. (http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/content/2007/04/lpai.shtml). The inhumane firefighting foam extermination of the 25,000 turkeys was taxpayer funded.

According to the UN Food & Agriculture Organization, “to date, all highly pathogenic AI viruses that cause generalized rather than respiratory disease belong to either the H5 or H7 subtypes. For example, the classical fowl plague virus is H7N7 and the virus responsible for the major epidemic in the eastern United States in 1983-84 was H5N2. However, not all H5 and H7 viruses are virulent for poultry” (“Animal Healthspecial Report: Avian Influenza - Disease Card”).

The avian flu virus confirmed as transmittable to humans is H5N1. According to Dan Murphy (cited above), “bird flu – like BSE [bovine spongiform encephalopathy] – is an animal disease that combines virulent animal-to-animal infectivity (think: foot-and-mouth disease) with the deadly ability to spread to humans with equally devastating mortality.”

For more information about avian influenza (bird flu), visit http://www.birdflufowlplay.com and www.upc-online.org/poultry_diseases/.

Karen Davis (Karen@UPC-online.org)
President
United Poultry Concerns, Inc.
12325 Seaside Road, P.O. Box 150
Machipongo, VA   23405
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From the Dr.H.Niman Website    20 April 2007


Qinghai H5N1 Migration in Europe the Middle East and Africa
Dr. H. Niman Commentary
April 20, 2007


The broad dispersal of these isolates throughout these countries during a relatively short period, coupled with weak biosecurity standards in place in most rural areas, implicates human-related movement of live poultry and poultry commodities as the source of introduction of influenza (H5N1) into some of these countries.

The virus' presence in wild birds leaves open the alternative possibility that migratory birds may have been the primary source, with secondary spread possibly caused by human-related activities.


According to the researchers, the broad dispersal of the disease also suggests that human movement, and not the migration of wild birds, is primarily responsible for the rapid spread of H5N1.

"The migratory pathways of wild birds don't correspond with the movement of the genomes that we sequenced," said Salzberg. "Humans carry chickens between many of the countries in our study, often transporting them across great distances. That and the weak biosecurity standards in most rural areas point to human-related movement of live poultry as the source of the introduction of H5N1 in some countries."

The above comments in the
paper, "Genome Analysis Linking Recent European and African Influenza (H5N1) Viruses", represent an unfortunate representation of the expanded geographical reach of the Qinghai (Clade 2.2) strain of H5N1 and associated evolution.  The paper provides sequence analysis of samples collected in early 2006, which confirm that all of the H5N1 isolates in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa were the Qinghai strain, and there are regional differences.  However, that conclusion, along with the fact that the vast majority of the spread is due to migratory birds, has been quite clear since 2005 The above paper focuses comments on trade as a source of spread to "some of these countries", but provides no evidence for such a statement, and follows with the false statement in media reports, claiming that "migratory pathways of wild birds don't correspond with movement of the genomes that we sequenced".

The correspondence of the H5N1 spread with migratory bird pathways has been known since the summer of 2005 (see
dynamic map), and such pathways predicted the movement of the Qinghai strain of H5N1 from southern Siberia / northern Mongolia into Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.  The sequences in the paper provide further confirmation that the primary mover of the Qinghai strain of H5N1 is migratory birds.

The strain was first reported at the Qinghai Lake nature reserve in May, 2005. 
Initially, all positives were from dead bar-headed geese.  The subsequent OIE report described infections in five species of waterfowl and the number of dead birds continued to rise through the month of May.  Most of the dead birds however, were bar headed geese that can fly 1000 miles in a 24 hour period, providing a mechanism for transporting H5N1 over long distances.  The Qinghai Lake nature reserve was populated by over 100 species of waterfowl and is at the intersection of multiple flyways.  Many of the species at Qinghai Lake in the spring, spend the summer in southern Siberia and northern Mongolia.

Thus, when H5N1 was reported at another nature reserve, Chany Lake in Novosibirsk, and sequence analysis showed that the H5N1 in Russia was the Qinghai strain, there was little doubt that long range migratory birds were spreading H5N1 over long distances.  The reports of Qinghai H5N1 in and around Chany Lake were quickly followed by reports of H5N1 in adjacent
Kazakhstan, as well as Erhel Lake in Mongolia.  None of these countries had previously reported highly pathogenic H5N1, and all three reported Qinghai outbreaks in the summer of 2005.

The reports of widespread infections in the summer of 2005 in Mongolia and Russia led to prediction that H5N1 would spread to
Europe, the Middle East, and Africa in the fall of 2005 and winter of 2006.  This prediction was confirmed by the detection of H5N1 in the Volga Delta in Russia, and the Danube Delta in Romania.  These areas had not previously reported H5N1, and again the H5N1 was the Qinghai strain, which was being detected in dead waterfowl (primarily mute swans).
  These confirmations in the fall of 2005 provided additional evidence for the movement of Qinghai H5N1 from one nature reserve to another, faithfully following known migratory bird flyways.

H5N1 was also reported in western Turkey in the fall of 2005, but most countries denied H5N1 infections in wild birds or poultry.  The failure to detect H5N1 in wild birds was due in part to the low sensitivity of the testing, as well as the low levels of H5N1 in live birds.  Although Russia had detected H5N1 in hunter killed birds in regions that were heavily infected with H5N1, none of the European countries had detected H5N1 in wild birds.  Egypt subsequently identified H5N1 in a
healthy teal in the Nile Delta in a sample that was collected in December, 2005, but initial testing was negative.

Thus, false negatives in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa led to the false conclusion that H5N1 migration into the region was limited. 
However, the deaths of several patients in eastern Turkey due to Qinghai H5N1 infections clearly demonstrated that H5N1 was in the region, and subsequent testing demonstrated that H5N1 was widespread in wild birds and poultry in Turkey.  Although neighboring countries continued to deny H5N1 presence, culling of poultry began in January, 2006.  In February 2006, H5N1 detection exploded, and was reported for the first time in over 40 countries in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.  All of these infections were due to the Qinghai strain.  A presentation in Italy in the spring of 2006 indicated that over 700 H5N1 positives were detected in Europe, and phylogenetic analysis of approximately 80 of the isolates showed that they were all the Qinghai strain.

There was little evidence to support significant movement by trade.  Although poor biosecurity can lead to local spread, the evidence against
long distance spread of Qinghai H5N1 by trade is also overwhelming.  The "Asian" strain of H5N1 was first reported in China in 1996 and subsequent isolates from China and Hong Kong between 1996 and 2003 indicates H5N1 infections were a continuous problem.  In 2003/2004 H5N1 exploded out of China and was reported in countries to the east and south east of China, but no country to the west reported H5N1.

However, after detection of the Qinghai strain in migratory birds in May, 2005, H5N1 rapidly spread into Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, and the spread followed migratory bird pathways.  Recent reports of H5N1 in feces collected from live markets in southern China between mid-2005 and mid-2006 only found one Qinghai strain.  The vast majority of the 4141 reported isolates in China were the Fujian strain (clade 2.3).  Moreover, the H5N1 detected in
quarantine in England in late 2005 was also the Fujian strain, but the Fujian strain has never been reported in wild birds or domestic poultry in Europe, the Middle East, or Africa, further discounting the role of trade or exotic birds in the spread of Qinghai H5N1 into regions west of China.

In addition, the sequences of H5N1 in the 2006/2007 season from birds or humans in Egypt supports multiple introductions of H5N1 and the continued evolution of H5N1 by recombination.  The recent simultaneous acquisition of a polymorphism previously detected in a large subset of wild bird isolates in Germany provides compelling evidence for widespread infections by a common source.  The polymorphism, NA G743A, was detected in six isolates in Egypt, representing three distinct subclades, and the polymorphism was also found in Moscow, in an additional Qinghai subclade. 

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simultaneous appearance on multiple Qinghai genetic backgrounds in diverse locations is most easily explained by recombination between migratory birds and local H5N1 populations.  The German isolates had a number of regional markers for Germany, but lacked markers from Egypt or Russia (which were closely related to 2006 isolates from Azerbaijan).  The 2007 isolates were collected over a short time frame in the winter of 2007, and the new acquisitions were on very distinct genetic backgrounds.

The evolution of H5N1 is driven by migratory birds and recombination.  This mechanism produces multiple subclades in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.  The above comments, which fail to understand this most basic mechanism of H5N1 evolution, are cause for concern.
 


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New report on study of genomes of H5N1 collected from wild birds concludes that disease spread by commercial activity, not migrating birds.

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/529070/

"The migratory pathways of wild birds don't correspond with the movement of the genomes that we sequenced", said Salzberg, the study's lead author, but the study itself states that wild birds may nevertheless play a role.
    
I contacted the lead author for clarification:

"Scientific papers have to be written very carefully. Some of the movements of the flu might be due to migratory birds, while other movements don't seem to correspond to what we know about migrations. So we can't rule out migratory sources, but we can't rule out human movements of poultry either. This wasn't the main thesis of our study so we can't make definitive conclusions. From all the data I've seen - including data not in our study - it seems highly likely to me
that humans are responsible for much of the spread of bird flu.
I think migratory birds spread some of it too, though."

Steven L. Salzberg, Ph.D.
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Recent expansion of highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1: a critical review in the journal Ibis

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1474-919X.2007.00699.x

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Wild birds, particularly waterfowl, are a key element of the viral ecology of avian influenza. Highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) virus, subtype H5N1, was first detected in poultry in November 1996 in southeast China, where it originated. The virus subsequently dispersed throughout most of Asia, and also to Africa and Europe. Despite compelling evidence that the virus has been dispersed widely via human activities that include farming, and marketing of poultry, migratory birds have been widely considered to be the primary source of its global dispersal. Here we present a critical examination of the arguments both for and against the role of migratory birds in the global dispersal of HPAI H5N1. We conclude that, whilst wild birds undoubtedly contribute to the local spread of the virus in the wild, human commercial activities, particularly those associated with poultry, are the major factors that have determined its global dispersal.
    
    
    
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If PETA can't get some traction on this cruelty in India I'll be very surprised. The PETA video is linked from earlier in this thread.

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http://www.dailyindia.com/show/136431.php/PETA-activists-seek-better-deal-for-chickens

PETA activists seek 'better deal' for chickens
From our ANI Correspondent

New Delhi, Apr 25: International animal rights group, People for Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), on Wednesday released a compressive investigative report on cruelty to chickens in poultry across India and suggestions for improvement in rearing conditions.

PETA in its report titled "An Assessment of Husbandry, Slaughter, Transport and Health Hazards to Humans in the Indian Chicken Meat and Egg Supply Chain 2007", raised concern over ill treatment of chickens in poultry farms across the country.

The report, a compilation of several investigations conducted since 2002 to 2007, gave an assessment of husbandry, slaughter, transport in the poultry and egg supply chain and potential health hazards to humans. It also gave recommendations for changes to be implemented at farms to reduce the suffering of chickens.

The report documents scalding, starvation and mutilation of birds and the high potential for the spread of disease, which include the bird flu, from chicken to humans.

"We just want to say that, if not anything else, then at least these birds deserve a better life. They should be able to lead a better life. They can't suffer like this. Whenever atrocities like this have been meted out to other animals, we have always raised the issue... the public has always raised the issue. But because these are chickens we are talking about, not many people are paying any attention.

"Our main aim right now is these chickens... we want to draw attention to their suffering. We want to tell the poultry industry that they will have to bring about some reforms," said Rohini Kamath, Campaign Coordinator of PETA.

PETA also screened a video showing the findings of cruelty to chickens, like crammed cages and unhygienic conditions, to support its campaign.
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< = value=15620053 name=uid>1: Med Mal Infect. 2004 Nov;34(11):499-505
 
 
Emergence of new viruses in Asia: is climate change involved?]
[Article in French]

Laboratoire de virologie, faculte de medecine, 29200 Brest, France. chastelc@aol.com

Tropical Africa is not the only area where deadly viruses have recently emerged. In South-East Asia severe epidemics of dengue hemorrhagic fever started in 1954 and flu pandemics have originated from China such as the Asian flu (H2N2) in 1957, the Hong-Kong flu (H3N2) in 1968, and the Russian flu (H1N1) in 1977. However, it is especially during the last ten years that very dangerous viruses for mankind have repeatedly developed in Asia, with the occurrence of Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever in Saudi Arabia (1995), avian flu (H5N1) in Hong-Kong (1997), Nipah virus encephalitis in Malaysia (1998,) and, above all, the SARS pandemic fever from Southern China (2002). The evolution of these viral diseases was probably not directly affected by climate change. In fact, their emergential success may be better explained by the development of large industry poultry flocks increasing the risks of epizootics, dietary habits, economic and demographic constraints, and negligence in the surveillance and reporting of the first cases.

PMID: 15620053 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=15931279
 
 
Comment on:
Clin Med Res. 2003 Jan;1(1):37-42.

Birds, migration and emerging zoonoses: west nile virus, lyme disease, influenza A and enteropathogens.

Clinical Research Center, Marshfield Medical Research Foundation, Marshfield, Wisconsin 54449, USA. reed.kurt@marshfieldclinic.org

Wild birds are important to public health because they carry emerging zoonotic pathogens, either as a reservoir host or by dispersing infected arthropod vectors.

In addition, bird migration provides a mechanism for the establishment of new endemic foci of disease at great distances from where an infection was acquired.
 
Birds are central to the epidemiology of West Nile virus (WNV) because they are the main amplifying host of the virus in nature.
 
The initial spread of WNV in the U.S. along the eastern seaboard coincided with a major bird migration corridor. The subsequent rapid movement of the virus inland could have been facilitated by the elliptical migration routes used by many songbirds. A number of bird species can be infected with Borrelia burgdorferi, the etiologic agent of Lyme disease, but most are not competent to transmit the infection to Ixodes ticks. The major role birds play in the geographic expansion of Lyme disease is as dispersers of B. burgdorferi-infected ticks.
Aquatic waterfowl are asymptomatic carriers of essentially all hemagglutinin and neuraminidase combinations of influenza A virus.
 
Avian influenza strains do not usually replicate well in humans, but they can undergo genetic reassortment with human strains that co-infect pigs. This can result in new strains with a marked increase in virulence for humans. Wild birds can acquire enteropathogens, such as Salmonella and Campylobacter spp., by feeding on raw sewage and garbage, and can spread these agents to humans directly or by contaminating commercial poultry operations.
 
Conversely, wild birds can acquire drug-resistant enteropathogens from farms and spread these strains along migration routes. Birds contribute to the global spread of emerging infectious diseases in a manner analogous to humans traveling on aircraft. A better understanding of avian migration patterns and infectious diseases of birds would be useful in helping to predict future outbreaks of infections due to emerging zoonotic pathogens.

PMID: 15931279 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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1: Tijdschr Diergeneeskd. 2004 Dec 1;129(23):782-96. < =1.2> < =1.2> Links

[Avian influenza: eradication from commercial poultry is still not in sight]

[Article in Dutch]

Gezondheidsdienst voor Dieren, Arnsbergstraat 7, 7418 EZ Deventer.

Avian influenza viruses are highly infectious micro-organisms that primarily affect birds. Nevertheless, they have also been isolated from a number of mammals, including humans. Avian influenza virus can cause large economic losses to the poultry industry because of its high mortality. Although there are pathogenic variants with a low virulence and which generally cause only mild, if any, clinical symptoms, the subtypes H5 and H7 can mutate from a low to a highly virulent (pathogenic) virus and should be taken into consideration in eradication strategies.

 
The primary source of infection for commercial poultry is direct and indirect contact with wild birds, with waterfowl forming a natural reservoir of the virus.
 
Live-poultry markets, exotic birds, and ostriches also play a significant role in the epidemiology of avian influenza.
 
The secondary transmission (i.e., between poultry farms) of avian influenza virus is attributed primarily to fomites and people. Airborne transmission is also important, and the virus can be spread by aerosol in humans.
 
Diagnostic tests detect viral proteins and genes. Virus-specific antibodies can be traced by serological tests, with virus isolation and identification being complementary procedures.
The number of outbreaks of avian influenza seems to be increasing - over the last 5 years outbreaks have been reported in Italy, Hong Kong, Chile, the Netherlands, South Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, China, Pakistan, United States of America, Canada, South Africa, and Malaysia.
Moreover, a growing number of human cases of avian influenza, in some cases fatal, have paralleled the outbreaks in commercial poultry.
 
 
(remember china... "find the sick humans") 
 
There is great concern about the possibility that a new virus subtype with pandemic potential could emerge from these outbreaks.
 
 From the perspective of human health, it is essential to eradicate the virus from poultry;
 
however, the large number of small-holdings with poultry, the lack of control experience and resources, and the international scale of transmission and infection make rapid control and long-term prevention of recurrence extremely difficult. In the Western world, the renewed interest in free-range housing carries a threat for future outbreaks. The growing ethical objections to the largescale culling of birds require a different approach to the eradication of avian influenza.

PMID: 15624878 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Another news source in India prints 2 stories on PETA campaign to end factory farming in that nation, reprinting the original release and writing their own story as well that stresses a very important consideration in India and other nations where ethics is a cultural value:

"Eating chickens and their eggs supports two industries whose common trademark is cruelty."

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http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=22002

http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=22038

Chicken Factories spreading suffering to animals, humans alike: PETA

New Delhi, Apr 25: A People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals study has brought to light the ill-effects of in-humane method of chicken and egg production on human health.

The report, 'Chicken Industry Paints Picture of Filth, Disease and Abuse' release here today, documented the scalding, starvation and mutilation of birds and revealed the potential for the spread of diseases like bird 'flu from such chickens to humans.

According to the World Health Organisation at least 91 people in seven countries had died from the H5N1 strain of bird flu since 2003 and Indian health officials had confirmed the bird flu outbreak among poultry in the Nandurbar district of Maharashtra last year.

Animal factories, such as broiler sheds and battery hen warehouses, virtually invited the virus to strike. Because of the intensive confinement of the animals, the deadly virus could spread like wildfire.

Humans who handled infected birds could catch bird flu, and experts feared that the virus would eventually mutate into a form that was transmissible from human to human, setting off a catastrophic worldwide pandemic.

Union Minister of State for Agriculture, Kanti Lal Bhuria had also issued a warning in March that avian flu virus could hit India imminently.

Because of the filthy and cramped conditions that chickens raised for meat and eggs were forced to endure, including being scalded to death in contaminated de-feathering tanks, diseases were rampant.

Antibiotics were routinely fed to healthy livestock and poultry to make them gain weight faster and to compensate for unsanitary living conditions. But even with the widespread use of drugs, dangerous and often life-threatening pathogens -- such as salmonella, listeria, campylobacter and E coli found in poultry populations -- sicken and even kill humans every year.

''The only certain way to stop such abuse of chickens and to safeguard our own health is to stop eating them,'' said PETA India Coordinator Rohini Kamath.

''Chickens are social, feeling birds who deserve basic respect.

Eating chickens and their eggs supports two industries whose common trademark is cruelty.''
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Yes that's another good reason for large scale tightly controlled and
well managed operations to replace these other dreadful operations.
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Here is a news article describing how factory farmers have derailed democracy in the US to avoid accountability. Imagine what it's like in poorer regions, where those who defend factory farming by pretending it is well managed control the media.
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http://www.newsobserver.com/570/story/568795.html

Campaign ads and Duplin deja vu

Steve Ford, Staff Writer

Take the scenic route through the struggling center of little Rose Hill, down in Duplin County, and there are few clues that this used to be ground zero of sorts for the North Carolina hog industry. The giveaway is just south of town along U.S. 117, one of the old highways (pre-Interstate 40) to Wilmington.
That's where one passes the spiffy headquarters of what used to be known as Murphy Family Farms. Back in the 1990s, when it was headed by the powerful Wendell Murphy, this was a company that at the same time helped many Eastern North Carolinians prosper and shared responsibility for putting the region's environment at risk. The bodily wastes from bazillions of hogs, flushed into open-air holding ponds that were prone to leaking or even bursting, were hard to live with, even if you could abide the smell.

The Murphy company pioneered the factory farm model that became the industry standard. In 2000 it was bought out by Virginia-based Smithfield Foods. Combined with the former Brown's of Carolina into Murphy-Brown, now based up the road from Rose Hill in Warsaw, it became the hog-growing subsidiary of the world's largest pork outfit. The so-called lagoons are still with us, sad to say, although some progress has been made toward waste disposal methods that aren't so hostile to pure air and clean water.

It was a huge lagoon rupture in 1995 (not from a Murphy operation) that provided the most shocking illustration of what was at stake. That river-befouling incident occurred not long after this newspaper had published articles about the hog industry and its environmental challenges that wound up being awarded the Pulitzer Prize for public service.

Not surprisingly, a call for stricter regulation began to be heard. But the hog growers knew they had a good thing going and weren't eager to change.

Hence the formation of a group known as Farmers for Fairness. That's fairness, as in if it works for me, it's fair. It was a consortium of the big hog companies, pooling their money to make life miserable for politicians who got in their way.

Their top target? They didn't have to look far. Duplin County in 1994 had sent to the state House a Republican from Rose Hill named Cindy Watson. As lagoons overflowed and her neighbors began to lose patience with hog farm odors and pollution, Watson became an unlikely champion of tighter state controls.

If they had been willing to accept limits on contributions and requirements for disclosure, the growers could have formed a political action committee and used it to help finance the campaigns of friendly candidates.

Instead, Farmers for Fairness poured huge amounts of money -- $10,000 a week during one stretch -- into an unregulated ad campaign undermining Watson in the 1998 Republican primary. How did they get away with that? By casting the ads as "issue" ads, meaning they didn't explicitly call for Watson's defeat. But that was their purpose, as an Indiana attorney for the group, James Bopp Jr., eventually conceded in federal court in Raleigh.

The ads worked. Watson lost, to a fellow who was a contract grower for Murphy.

Here we've come across one of the thornier aspects of the effort to keep special interests from pouring so much money into elections that they essentially buy the result they want.

If you want to campaign directly for or against a candidate, you're subject to contribution limits and disclosure rules. If you want to campaign on an issue, such as the need to protect hog farms from meddling bureaucrats, free speech trumps the campaign finance laws.

Except: As a safeguard against phony issue ads like the ones that took down Cindy Watson, Congress enacted a rule against issue ads that name a federal candidate in the weeks approaching an election. That rule, which applies to ads paid for by corporations and labor unions, came before the Supreme Court last week, in a case brought by Wisconsin Right to Life. And there was our old pal James Bopp Jr. again trying to seize the free-speech high ground.

Well, free speech is a wonderful thing, and we have a right to it. But groups like Farmers for Fairness have abused that right in a way that can eat the heart out of our democratic system. Even President Bush's conservative Supreme Court appointees ought to be able to see that, although the signs aren't hopeful.

With Smithfield Foods having consolidated its hold on the North Carolina hog business, from the barn to the slaughterhouse, Farmers for Fairness has departed the scene. As for Cindy Watson, she's been off the state political scope as well.

It didn't even draw notice hereabouts when, in 2004, Watson was one of three recipients of the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award. Standing for the public interest against an industry's money and power allowed her to stand on a stage in Boston where political heroes receive their due.



Editorial page editor Steve Ford can be reached at 919-829-4512 or at steve.ford@newsobserver.com
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The artcicle copied in the post above is about factory farmers in North Caroline derailing democracy to stop regulations that protect people (what do we expect from people who condone animal abuse??). The letter below describes these same folks hurting people in Iowa.
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http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070410/OPINION04/704100375/-1/SPORTS01

Legislature should act on hog-farm bill

April 10, 2007
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This year, the Iowa House Environmental Protection Committee has worked long and hard on HF 873. The bill addresses many of the problems with our current regulatory system that puts the interests of factory farms above the concerns of everyday people living in Iowa.

HF 873, the factory farm accountability bill, should have gone to the full House to be voted on as drafted by the Environmental Protection Committee. But Iowa House Speaker Pat Murphy sent it to the House Agriculture Committee so the Farm Bureau could have more input.

Right now, the Farm Bureau is in the driver's seat of agribusiness in Iowa, not the everyday voter. This bill, as written, would strengthen the permitting process and make it tougher to build factory farms, would lower the construction permit threshold to 1,250 hogs versus the current 2,500, increase separation distances and give all counties the right to challenge construction permits.

Individuals wishing to get some control over factory farming sites in Iowa need to contact House Speaker Murphy, Rep. Dolores Mertz and Rep. Mike Reasoner and tell them to pass HF 873 in its present form with no changes.
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And in New Zealand, regulators of factory farms don't even visit the farms....
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http://www.arkangelweb.org/international/nz/20070409corpsepit.php

    

New Zealand

Corpse pit found by New Zealand animal rights campaigners

New Zealand animal rights activists have uncovered an illegal dumping ground for chickens on a factory farm.

On Sunday 1st April animal rights activists from the Open Rescue Collective discovered a fly-infested pit filled with rotting broiler chicken corpses behind a Foxton factory farm. Activists say the dump is illegal as the corpses were piled up, along with household refuse, in an open pit behind the farm. Many bodies were torn apart and had been partially eaten by predators. Other corpses were maggot infested. One chicken was discovered alive but injured among the corpses, a clear breach of animal welfare legislation.

A complaint has been made to Horizons Regional Council who are now investigating the site.

Activists from the Open Rescue Collective were investigating a pig factory farm in Bergin Road, Foxton, when they discovered the hidden pit. Open Rescue activist Tom Wright said he noticed something was not right when he saw a chicken foot hanging from what he had assumed to be a pile of rubbish.

"I discovered a pit filled with household trash and about 100 chicken corpses. Then I saw one of the birds move. This bird was obviously a runt which had been thrown alive into the pit like trash and left to die. Deliberately throwing a living bird into a pit full of corpses is a breach of the Animal Welfare Act and is an arrest-able offence." he said.

The bird had crippled legs, was unable to stand or walk and was in need of immediate veterinary attention. In this condition, the bird was defenceless against predation and would inevitably suffer from starvation and dehydration. The activists removed the bird and have sought veterinary help.

Another activist, Mark Eden, said, "Every time we visit factory farms we find evidence of illegal animal cruelty. The Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry (MAF) are supposedly in charge of enforcing animal welfare standards but no one bothers to inspect the farms. If the government was serious about animal welfare they would be inspecting farms and enforcing the laws themselves, instead of leaving it to volunteer groups like us."

The Open Rescue Collective are asking the MAF to make a formal investigation and prosecute whoever was responsible for dumping a live chicken into the pit. The activists have notified the Horizons Regional Council who are now investigating whether the property owner has resource consent to dump hundreds of chickens alongside household waste in an open, fly-infested pit.
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And here is a story about how Walmart labels factory farm products "organic" because they can charge more for it...

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Organic Milk That Isn't Either
Added: Apr 4th, 2007 8:03 AM

Interview: Organic Consumers Association's Ronnie Cummins tells the truth about organic milk that isn't

by: Mike Adams

With consumer demand for organic products continuing to grow, more large corporations are entering the organic market. To maximize profits, some of these companies don't follow organic standards but still label products as organic. For example, Horizon Organic and Aurora Organic, sold by Wal-Mart and other retailers, continue to produce "organic" milk under factory-farm conditions that few reasonable people would consider truly organic.

According to the Organic Consumers Association, half of Horizon's "organic" milk today comes from what can only be considered "factory" dairy feedlots -- and much of Aurora's organic milk does as well. Rather than buy organic calves that have been raised from birth on organic farms, these companies seemed to have discovered it's cheaper to buy conventional calves that have been raised on conventional farms, install them in factory feedlots, then milk them and call it organic.

The situation has become so alarming that the Organic Consumers Association ultimately called for a boycott, and many knowledgeable consumers are now avoiding the Horizon brand entirely.

The organic milk controversy extends to organic soy milk as well. Horizon Organic's parent company, Dean Foods, also bought out Silk, the leading organic soy milk brand in the United States. Dean Foods has pushed for lower organic standards in the United States and to allow industrial-style production to be called "organic."

Meanwhile, major grocery chains import cheap, so-called "organic" soybeans from China, where the workers are treated much like slaves and organic standards are dubious. They are also imported from Brazil where the Amazon rainforest is being bulldozed in order to create more acreage for growing soybeans.

To gain more insight on the details of this emerging battle over organic standards, NewsTarget editor Mike Adams sat down with Ronnie Cummins of the Organic Consumers Association for some straight talk on organic milk. What follows is the full interview.

Mike: I am here today talking with Ronnie Cummins, National Director of the Organic Consumers Association. That is at www.OrganicConsumers.org. What's the overview of the situation on organic milk, Ronnie?

Ronnie: Well, the good news is, there is such a huge demand for organic products across the United States and North America that there is a serious shortage of supply. One of the types of products that are in serious short supply is organic milk. This is already more than a $1-billion-a-year industry in the United States, out of the $15 billion in organic food sales last year.

The problem is that our government - specifically the U. S. Department of Agriculture - takes about $90 billion of our tax money every year, and they give subsidies to all of these factory farms to go organic, but they give no subsidies to help family-scale dairies make the transition to organic. We literally do not have enough family farmers with the wherewithal to achieve organic certification and make the product.

At the same time, we have these giant retail giants like Wal-Mart who have noticed that the public wants organic food and they are willing to pay a premium price for it, so they and the other retail chain stores have moved with a vengeance to dominate the organic market. Wal-Mart is now the number-one seller of organic milk in the country. The problem is that the milk they are selling - Horizon Organic - is not really organic. It is coming from the factory-style dairy farms where the animals are kept in intensive confinement and have been imported from conventional farms as calves. They simply label it organic, and the USDA lets them get away with it.

Mike: Let us get into more detail on that, because I want people to understand how they do an end-run around this organic label. First, do you agree that there is some degree of success in the fact that consumer demand for organic products is now so strong? Is that not a success by itself?

Ronnie: It is a tremendous success. It is attributed to the fact that a lot of us spent the last 30 years building up an alternative food and farming system in the United States. This alternative system has proved to be much better than industrial agriculture, and so now the latest polls show 75 percent of Americans say they are shopping for healthier food. If you look at the statistics, about 12 cents of every grocery store dollar are going for foods that are labeled as either natural or organic.

Mike: Well, that is a substantial sum. That is growing at, what, about 20 percent a year or something?

Ronnie: Growing at 20 percent a year, whereas conventional food sales tend to grow about 2 percent a year. This 20 percent-a-year growth has been steady ever since 1991. It appears that it will continue through the end of this decade, so by then most food sold in grocery stores will have a label that says 'natural' or 'organic'.

The question is: If we let these gigantic corporations like Horizon and Wal-Mart take over the industry, will it really be organic?

How the USDA enables big business to corrupt organic standards for profit
Mike: Let's talk about the definition of organic, then. What should organic really mean in terms of, not only the treatment of the cows, but also what chemicals are not in the milk, for example? What is the real definition?

Ronnie: There are organic farmers all over the world - in about 100 countries - who are certified organic nowadays. Traditionally, organic has always meant that you raise crops without chemical pesticides or chemical fertilizers and that you raise animals without drugging them up with hormones or antibiotics. You cannot take sewage sludge and put it on farmlands. You cannot feed animals things like blood, slaughterhouse waste, manure and municipal garbage, and you cannot use untested and hazardous technologies like genetic engineering or fruit irradiation. The animals have to be raised on pasture - which is their natural behavior - where every day of the growing season, weather permitting, they are out on pasture eating grass and foraging as they have evolved to do.

What has happened recently is that Wal-Mart was buying their organic milk from genuine organic dairy farmers that pastured their animals, and then they turned around to that company - Organic Valley - and they said, "Hey, we want a lower price," just as Wal-Mart always does. Organic Valley said no, so Wal-Mart then turned to Dean Foods, the largest dairy conglomerate in the world - which had bought out Horizon Organic - and said, "Would you sell to us?" To which Horizon said, "We will sell you the cheapest organic milk you have ever seen."

Horizon conveniently took advantage of the fact that Federal Organic Standards say the cows must have access to pasture, and they said, "Oh well, I guess theoretical access to pasture is good enough. We are going to chain up our cows and milk them three times a day, and they will never get out pasturing unless there is a news organization coming to the farm that day. We will still call it organic." They have been doing this for four years, and there have been complaints from the Organic Consumers Association and organic farmers all over the country.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has completely ignored these complaints for four years. However, now this controversy has reached such a state, with the mass media covering it and retail stores across the country starting to drop Horizon and Aurora Organic, that the USDA is finally making noises that they will clear up this situation and promulgate federal regulations that actually require the animals to be pastured.

They will make sure that the animals were not imported from some conventional dairy farm where they were weaned on blood, fed antibiotics, slaughterhouse waste and chicken manure and then called "organic." The animals must be raised from birth as organic, and they must be pastured every day during t he growing season - a minimum of 120 days a year. This is what organic has always meant in terms of raising cows, and it is what it should mean now.

Mike: Now, these are pretty serious accusations of Horizon Milk or Dean Foods' behavior. How are you able to support this? Do you have an insider taking pictures, or how did you become aware of this behavior on their part?

Ronnie: It was called to our attention by a watchdog organization called The Cornucopia Institute, which actually visited some of these factory-style dairy farms that Horizon and Aurora call organic. They witnessed first-hand things like a farm where there are 4,000 animals, but only a few hundred acres of pasture. You cannot possibly pasture animals on that little pasture, especially when they are in semi-arid parts of Idaho, Colorado and West Texas.

Then beyond that, workers on these farms started coming forth as whistleblowers. There was a story in the Chicago Tribune about one of these whistleblowers who pointed out that these cows are not put out to pasture. The only time they are put out to pasture is when there is a media organization or an important person coming out.

Yes, it is first-hand information. It is a look at the terrain that these factory-style dairy feedlots are set on. Look at the size of their pasture, and then the fact that there was a national survey of organic dairy farms that came out March 22 - which the unethical dairies did not respond to or they got really low ranks - whereas, the ethical producers were happy to be transparent about their practices.

The good news is, almost all the organic farmers in the country are actually practicing real organic standards. The bad news is that the market leader, Horizon Organic, and their junior partner, Aurora Organic, are flagrantly violating organic standards to the point where we, the Organic Consumers Association, had to call for a boycott. We have never called for a boycott against an organic product before. This was going too far, so starting in early April, we called on consumers across the country to start boycotting the products of Horizon Organic and Aurora Organic, and to boycott the brand names that the leading retailers are selling from Horizon and Aurora at Wal-Mart, Costco, Safeway, Giant, Publix and Wild Oats.

Mike: Well, this seems like a clear case in which big business is now seeing dollar signs whenever the word "organic" appears, so they are doing the minimum necessary or even just blatantly violating the rules in order to put that word on their products, regardless of the spirit of the law or the original intent of organics. Is this just corporate greed?

Ronnie: This is, and the sad thing is, how easy it would be to help 5,000 or 10,000 conventional family farmers make the transition in their dairies to organic. It would not be that hard. It would not cost that much money, and this way we could still have organic standards that were real, animals treated humanely and not damage the environment.

Of course, we have not even mentioned that one of the reasons you want organic animals to be outdoors and pastured is because the quality of the meat and milk is much higher if the animals are raised naturally on grass. The other organic requirements mean that the end product is going to be healthier as well. They are not going to have antibiotic residues or genetically engineered hormones. They are not going to be spreading mad cow disease and so on. We, right now in the United States, have an excess of milk being produced by family-scale dairy farmers who are not yet organic. It would be very simple to help those who want to make the transition do so if we were to force the government to give us a fair share of our subsidies to help these farmers do that.

Lax standards of corporate manufacturers and retailers affect both organic milk and soymilk products
Mike: Now, you mentioned that pasture-fed cows are healthier cows. This gets back to something you mentioned earlier that needs to be emphasized, because most people simply do not believe this is happening. Conventional cows, in fact, are being fed chicken litter and other animals.

Ronnie: Yes, they take it from birth. Cows were traditionally weaned on their mother's milk, but industrial agriculture figured out that it's pretty expensive to wean the calves on milk, so they decided to wean them on blood. That is common practice nowadays on a conventional dairy farm. Then, you feed them primarily grains that are genetically engineered, but mixed in with those grains are things that make the animals grow faster and put on weight, like slaughterhouse waste - basically ground up pigs, chickens, dogs, cats and everything else are fed to them.

They found out all these factory poultry farms around the country were producing billions of pounds of manure that pollute the environment. What can we do with all this manure? Presto, they feed it back to cows. They sweep up the manure, the feathers and the dropped bits of cattle that are fed to chickens in their feed. They sweep that all up, turn around and feed it back to cows.

Most people in the United States are shocked when they hear that 80 percent of the drugs and antibiotics made in this country are not fed to humans to cure them of some illness, but fed to animals in their feed every day to make them grow faster. Scientists do not totally understand why, but they do know that if you cram thousands of animals together in unsanitary or unhygienic - not to mention inhumane - conditions, they all get sick and die.

The only way to keep them alive is to constantly feed them antibiotics. Of course, what that means is you turn around and drink a glass of dairy milk from a conventional farm, and you are getting residues of antibiotics in every drink. They also figured out, "We could use our genetically engineered hormone to shoot up these cows with this hormone produced by Monsanto, even though it is banned in just about every industrialized country in the world except for the United States." If you shoot up dairy cows with this hormone, you can force them to give more milk, and you can keep milking them even past their lactation period. You can actually milk a cow not for a year, but for up to a thousand days. Of course, the cow will drop dead after that, but they do not care.

For all these reasons, there is a huge movement on the part of American consumers and especially concerned parents and concerned grandparents - if they drink milk and if their kids and grandparents drink - to switch to organic.

Mike: Is it fair to say, Ronnie, that the organic-labeled Horizon Milk on the shelves in Wal-Mart right now comes, at least in part, from cows that were at one point in their lives fed blood, manure, chicken litter and some other things you mentioned? Is that accurate?

Ronnie: Yes, half of Horizon Organic's milk today comes from these factory dairy feedlots. One hundred percent of Aurora Organic's milk comes from these factory dairy feedlots. It is cheaper to not buy organic calves that have been raised from birth on an organic farm, but to buy conventional calves that have been raised as cheaply as possible on a conventional farm. The routine practice today on a conventional farm is feeding the animals blood plasma as a milk replacer. You feed them genetically engineered grains, slaughterhouse waste and chicken manure. That is industry standard. Why? You can make more money doing it that way.

Mike: Okay, so for those reading this, take a closer look at that bowl of cereal next time. If you are pouring cow's milk in there, you might want to buy genuine organic and not the cheap stuff.

Ronnie: Here is another point that you might think about: for those people who do not drink dairy milk, but who buy organic soy milk, the leading organic soy milk brand in the United States is Silk. Many consumers have no idea that Silk - just like Horizon Organic Milk - was bought out by this giant conglomerate, Dean Foods.

Silk used to buy their organic soybeans from U.S. and Canadian organic soybean farmers, and they paid them a decent price - $16 to $21 a bushel - for these organic soybeans. Well, now that Dean Foods has bought out Silk, they are starting to import cheap, so-called organic soybeans from China, where the workers are treated like slaves and organic standards are dubious. Or, they are importing soybeans from Brazil where there is a huge uproar over the fact that people are whacking down the Amazon - the lungs of the planet - in order to plant export crops, specifically soybeans, to export.

Even if we think this does not affect us, because we do not eat meat or we do not eat dairy, we have to see the effect of these big corporations like Dean Foods coming into organic. Wal-Mart wants to sell you stuff that is cheaper than their competitors, and the only way they can do that is to outsource it from overseas - places like China and Brazil - where worker rights and environmental standards are routinely violated, or else lower standards in the United States and allow industrial-style production to call itself organic.

Mike: Now, this is obviously a very important story for consumers to follow. How can they continue to get updates from you on this story?

Ronnie: Every day on our news site, www.OrganicConsumers.org you will find updates. We have a whole section of our website called "Safeguard Organic Standards," where you can take action … send a message to what we are calling the "Shameless Seven." These are the large corporations trying to defraud consumers and put ethical organic farmers out of business by labeling factory farm production - and slave labor production, in the case of China - as organic.

Mike: I want to thank you, Ronnie, for taking the time to give us all of this shocking information today.

Ronnie: Thank you.


Related Resources

• Organic Consumers Association – (www.organicconsumers.org)

• The Cornucopia Institute – (www.cornucopia.org)

• USDA's National Organic Program (http://www.ams.usda.gov/NOP)
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OMG !  they found a badly managed poultry farm in New Zealand ! 
I wonder how many years they have been looking ?
And only 8,185 miles from St. Augustine Florida !   I bet there will be
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A bunch of guys who can easily afford antivirals for their personal use at any price decided not to use the people's funds to protect the people. This incredible lack of concern among Florida's famously corrupt legislature is exactly why the people of this State forced a referendum on the ballot to amend the State Constitution to protect factory-farmed pigs 5 years ago - bypassing the legislature - the first such move in the US. (http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/press_releases/voters_protect_pigs_in_florida_ban_cockfighting_in_oklahoma.html : "RIDA: Amendment 10—VICTORY—55% to 45%. The first measure ever to be adopted in the United States to ban the confinement of animals on factory farms, Amendment 10 bans the caging of pigs in gestation crates—tiny, two-foot by seven-foot cages in which pregnant pigs are housed for almost all of their dismal existence. The Animal Rights Foundation of Florida led the campaign with The HSUS, The Fund for Animals, and Farm Sanctuary.")

The people of the world want an end to factory farming AND corrupt government...so governments say to hell with the people and begin the process of outlawing the raising of poultry for food by the poor, despite thousands of years of safe practice.
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Legislature adjourns without property tax reform

By Linda Kleindienst, Mark Hollis and Josh Hafenbrack
Tallahassee Bureau
Posted May 5 2007

TALLAHASSEE -- The Florida Legislature lurched to a close Friday afternoon while leaving undone the biggest task members faced during the past 60 days -- property tax reform.

The House and Senate adjourned shortly after 4 p.m., almost eight hours before the session's official midnight adjournment -- after agreeing to freeze rates paid by customers of Citizens Property Insurance Corp. through January 2009.

Postponing the tax battle until a special session next month muted the last-minute deal making and frenzy that normally accompany a session's last day. Instead, spurts of lawmaking were broken by long recesses and recognition ceremonies.

While the Senate debated abortion rights, the House celebrated Cinco de Mayo, with many members wearing sombreros. As the Senate gave its staff standing ovations, the House voted for automatic annual increases in the cost of driving on state toll roads, including Florida's Turnpike.

Among the issues that died when chamber leaders gaveled the session to an early close were a sales-tax rebate to help build a new ballpark for the Florida Marlins and a fix to Florida's no-fault insurance law.

"I expected to be working around the clock. ... I was looking forward to that 11:59 rush to get the last few bills in," said freshman state Sen. Ted Deutch, D-Boca Raton. "I can't believe I have two hours for lunch."

Immediately after the session's close, Gov. Charlie Crist joined legislative leaders in the rotunda that separates House and Senate chambers and hailed the session as a victory for the people and his own political agenda.

While not getting approval for the property tax cuts he has sought, Crist, a former state senator, emphasized that other bills he sought were sent to him for his signature, including one that makes it easier to put probation violators back in prison.

"You have protected Florida with this legislative session," Crist told legislators.

He applauded them for changing how public school teachers will be awarded bonuses, for funds set aside for Everglades restoration, cleanup of Lake Okeechobee and helping the state reduce its reliance on fossil fuels, as well for agreeing that a new paper-trail ballot system should be in place in time for the 2008 presidential election.

He also expressed little doubt that the Legislature will succeed in slashing property taxes when it reconvenes June 12-22.

Members failed to pass several of Crist's budget priorities, such as requests to pay for anti-viral drugs to deal with a potential bird flu pandemic and the allocation of state money for stem cell research. But Crist cast even these defeats in rosy terms.

"I think the working relationship [between the House and Senate] is as good as I've ever seen it," said Rep. Jack Seiler, D-Wilton Manors. "Last night we were all over at the lieutenant governor's house, talking about where we can go with this. And this governor has instilled a kind of can-do optimism."

In welcoming Crist to the Capitol's fourth floor, Senate President Ken Pruitt held up a rock with the word "Patience" written on it. Crist has repeatedly told lawmakers that he wants to see Floridians' property taxes "drop like a rock."

"We're going to make property taxes drop like a rock in June," promised Pruitt, R-Port St. Lucie.

Although tempers sometimes flared on the final day, there was plenty of levity as well.

In the House, which passed a bill mandating physical education for elementary school students, it was announced that a weight-loss challenge issued early in the session resulted in a 213-pound weight loss from members that participated. The male winner was freshman Rep. Joe Gibbons, D-Hallandale Beach, who dropped 17 pounds.

During a brief floor celebration for Cinco de Mayo, House Speaker Marco Rubio, R-West Miami, looked out at members wearing sombreros and quipped, "It's a bipartisan embarrassment. You know, as they say in Texas, all hat and no cattle."
    
    
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Here is a photo illustrating factory farming in India. As the caption points out, 5000 chickens dead from unknown cause, but note the lack of biosecurity.
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May 8: A poultry farm worker in Matigara, India administers medicine to a chicken at the farm where 5,000 birds were found dead Saturday; bird flu has not been ruled out as a cause of death.

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Child and adult detainees confined together in a crowded prison cell in the Visayas. The crowding of birds and animals, here is the overcrowding of people in a prison with no running water, a hole in the ground for a toilet, and sleeping on the floor.

When the H5N1 goes H2H, a pandemic is inevitable. JMHO
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Good science in Ghana:

"at present no evidence exists to show migrating birds to be the originators in Ghana. What is known however is that there is a link between bird flu and wild birds."

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World migratory bird day launched
Albert Oppong Ansah & Jessica Hobart , 11/05/2007

The impact of global warming has been felt in countless areas of life, from business through sports. But perhaps the most effect has been felt by the flora and fauna. A closer examination of the world's migrating birds sees an unfortunate yet perhaps unprecedented decline of these wonderful nomads of our skies. In light of this, the Ghana Wildlife Society is celebrating this year"s World Migratory Bird Day on the theme 'Migratory birds in a changing climate’.

The aim of WMBD is to draw to light the plight of migrating birds and the way in which they are being affected both by climate change and human activity. Whilst the Wildlife Society’s campaign is being held nationally within Ghana, their message is targeted for an international audience. The concern of migrating birds, travelling to and from Africa and Europe, is a global source of consideration.

Bird migration is one of the most impressive national phenomena, as birds flock thousands of miles, gracing the shores of many countries, in search of an ecosystem in which to live in. The harsh reality however is that 12% of all bird species are considered threatened whilst 44% of all water birds are in decline or have become extinct.

The Ghana Wildlife Society attributes some of the causes of this poignant decline to land use owing to agriculture, non-breeding areas which have suffered, such as from drought or desertification and disease and parasitic outbreak among others.

However their paramount concern is to highlight the role and responsibility of humans and climate change. These two factors both hold mankind accountable, whilst yielding a positive outcome in that change, awareness and education are achievable goals.

A key concern attached to migrating birds is avian influenza. A fear in the past of our neighbouring countries, it is now a contentious area of worry for Ghanaians as a few cases have mounted panic. Ngeh Chiambeng Paulinus, sub-regional coordinator for Bird life International programme, was careful to clarify that there is at present no link between migrating birds and bird flu. He said The Wildlife Society is involved in much investigation and research into the initial source of bird flu and at present no evidence exists to show migrating birds to be the originators in Ghana. What is known however is that there is a link between bird flu and wild birds.

The Ghana Wildlife Society’s immediate response to this concern is creating packages to sensitise people to bird flu in order to create awareness and education, in particular to avoid panic with regards to bird flu. In contrast they said the emphasis should be transferred to protecting the birds ecology, without which migrating birds will become extinct.

Research clearly illustrates birds migrate, tracking the climate in which they are used to, rather than adapting to the new climate. At present migrating birds are unable to get enough energy to make the flight to Europe’s shores. The conservation of bird habitats, research and protection of these birds is the society's next step.
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Annie, H2H may bring inevitable pandemic, as you surmise, and efficient H2H is, in fact, the definition. My great concern, and the reason I persist with this thread (gathering info in one place), is that the world is ignoring the threat of efficient B2H, which almost certainly will bring human pandemic, and is evolving right now in factory farms.

Efficient B2H is unlikely to evolve through human contact with birds, but rather through contact between birds. This seems counterintuitive to many, and the focus has been on limiting contact between species, but when efficient B2H emerges within the confines of these meat factories, it will be difficult to impossible to prevent the development of efficient H2H. The misplaced emphasis on H2H distracts the world from this threat, and leads those working to stop the emergence of pandemic to wrongly suppose that there can be such a thing as a safe factory farm through biosecurity.

Crowding people and birds together in prisons, such as you illustrate in your post above, can result in more opportunities for H5N1 to jump from birds to humans, but it is the effort to prevent contact between birds and humans that pressures the virus to evolve more efficient transmission, and this is what is occurring in factory farms.
    
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Btw, imho, no decent person supports factory farming, it is a terribly cruel way to make money by torturing animals and starving the poor (by eliminating the profit in subsistance farming).

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Poultry farmers in India blame factory farms for bird flu and destruction of their livlihoods, claim that big players are unecessary to feed people
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Punjab poultry farmers see big market players as threat to their industry

By Ravinder Singh Robin

Amritsar, May 16: Poultry farmers of Punjab are up in arms against the State Government over the support being extended to big market players.

The Punjab poultry industry, which was ranked first in India in 1984, has dropped to the seventh due to what farmers' term as the anti-poultry attitude of the government.

Agitated poultry farmers claim that they experiencing huge losses due to natural calamities and with the presence of mega companies.

The local poultry association is afraid that the recently introduced 'Contract Poultry Farming' by the mega companies would damage poultry industry in Punjab irrevocably.

Punjab is the first state in the country to introduce contract farming at the government level. The main objective of this programme is to prepare farmers to cultivate quality and marketable produce based on the demand and supply chain.

Farmers blame big players like Suguna Farms, Japfa Feeds, Venky's and Godrej for the so-called Bird Flu declared in the country.

In a letter to Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal, the Amritsar Poultry Industry Association has cried out for help, claiming that it feeds more than three lakh people directly or indirectly.

G S Bedi, a poultry farmer and president of the Amritsar Poultry Industry Association said: "These mega companies neither generating new employment nor putting any investment in Punjab. However, these companies are doing complicated agreements with the farmers and mortgaging the land of poultry farmers".

Almost all the clauses in the agreement are in favor of the companies, and not of the poultry farmers, Bedi adds.

Yogesh Sharma, General Secretary of the association said: "If we allow these companies in the state, then money earned at the cost of our investment, shall go out of Punjab and there will be no benefit to Punjab state".

"The Punjab poultry industry is producing enough chicken in the state. Around eight to nine crores of broilers are being produced in the state. Out of total production, near about 60 per cent production is being sold to Jammu and Kashmir," Jaspal Singh Dillon, another poultry farmer, said.

At present, there are about 3000 poultry farmers, 20 hatcheries, around 30 feed factories, around 300 feed dealers, 60 medicine shops, 1000 meat shops and 200 egg dealers.

Only one or two companies shall earn and all other working in poultry will loose their livelihood and dependent families shall starve.

The Punjab poultry industry of more than 4000 crores was doing a business of nearly 400 crores annually.
    
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Have you read this?                          http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/070516/x05169A.html                                                              
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