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Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/06/24/cnbis124.xml BIS warns of Great Depression dangers from credit spree By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Last Updated: 9:02am BST 25/06/2007 The Bank for International Settlements, the world's most prestigious financial body, has warned that years of loose monetary policy has fuelled a dangerous credit bubble, leaving the global economy more vulnerable to another 1930s-style slump than generally understood. "Virtually nobody foresaw the Great Depression of the 1930s, or the crises which affected Japan and Southeast Asia in the early and late 1990s. In fact, each downturn was preceded by a period of non-inflationary growth exuberant enough to lead many commentators to suggest that a 'new era' had arrived", said the bank. The BIS, the ultimate bank of central bankers, pointed to a confluence a worrying signs, citing mass issuance of new-fangled credit instruments, soaring levels of household debt, extreme appetite for risk shown by investors, and entrenched imbalances in the world currency system. advertisement "Behind each set of concerns lurks the common factor of highly accommodating financial conditions. Tail events affecting the global economy might at some point have much higher costs than is commonly supposed," it said. The BIS said China may have repeated the disastrous errors made by Japan in the 1980s when Tokyo let rip with excess liquidity. "The Chinese economy seems to be demonstrating very similar, disquieting symptoms," it said, citing ballooning credit, an asset boom, and "massive investments" in heavy industry. |
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 9:11pm |
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 8:44pm |
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July 17, 2007 is the date i figure we'll start seeing results.
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 12:38am |
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It really stopped at about page three, but bits and pieces have been trickling throughout the rest of the thread. I've tried a couple times to get this thread back on track, but it just goes back every time.
Muriel, are you sure that wasn't just end of the week profit taking? That's what I took it as. If it's down nearly 200 points again Monday I'll raise one eyebrow, if again Tuesday it's further down then we can start paying attention. Personally I won't start getting worried unless we have a week or two or consistent downs. Unless we have that I seriously doubt that it's going to crash bigtime. With the rising inflation though, I fully expect to start paying more at not only the pump, but at the grocer too. |
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Posted: June 23 2007 at 7:56pm |
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I came in late on this thread. Where did the conversatin on the imminent collapse of the economy end? so I don't have to read through all the last posts. Thanks.
BTW, check out how the markets closed yesterday. Wall Street is getting nervous, and that isn't a good sign. They hear things before we do.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hi johnray,,i think you misconstrued what i was quoting from what i was saying,, we are in total agreement,,the guy is insulting,,and that type of mindset does indeed warrant professional help. in my first post i was being "sarcastic" when i noted that his first 4 ex wives must be jumping for joy now that he has left them,, and glomed onto wife number 5. so you see,,we are in agreement. thanks turboguy ,,i think i got into trouble when i lifted diode's quote from someone else's post,,so it didn't show the quote came from diode. no worries =) judye |
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mom24kids,I am a man and I have been married to the same women for 36. I was insulted that any man would talk like that about women.I am also a doctor so I do mean that these people need professional help.I know that it is possible for any one to make a mistake,man or woman,but to insult all women and put them down like this,these people need professional help.Plus this kind of talk makes all men look bad and I do not like that.Johnray1
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Johnray, I think you need to read the entire post before you jump on someone. She quoted Diode's woman bashing, and considering that she's a woman, I think she takes woman bashing quite personally.
Mom24kids, if you want to get your quotes better understood you need to put "quote" in brackert [] in front of the text you want to quote, and /quote in brackets [] behind. That way you'll get the nice quotation boxes. Anyway Diode, Again you're comparing apples and automobiles. By your same logic I can say that you're 500 times more likely to be mugged in Washington DC, or Chicago than you are in Houston TX or Pensacola FL. What you're citing is that it's more dangerous to live in one city than it is in another, without taking into account even one single other factor as to what's going on. Further, I can safely say that you're more likely to be mugged in the entire state of Illinois than you are in the entire state of Arizona. I'll totally agree that by and large the Southern cities are noticably more dangerous, but if you make a grand generalization, saying that the ENTIRE South is dangeorous, and the entire North is safe, or that the entire South is more dangerous than the entire North you're wrong. You're on your fifth wife!?! Cripes man! After your third time through the ringer did you even think that there might be something *YOU'RE* doing wrong? I'll wager that your little, "women being your property" thing is why you're losing out, time and again. Maybe you should get to know your potential wife a little bit better before you get married to her. Hopefully then you won't be able to continue to sully the gene pool. |
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Posted: June 23 2007 at 2:39pm |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ not sure what you mean by this,,i am a woman and i am offended by what he has to say about women. is that what you mean? actually,,don't worry,,you don't have to answer,,it's neither here nor there to me. i am getting back to task,,,prep on!! 
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Posted: June 23 2007 at 12:37pm |
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mom24kids,you and everyone else that looks at women like this need professional help.Johnray1
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Posted: June 23 2007 at 11:29am |
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I am on my fifth wife. The first four were not up to expectation.I consider myself to be in the same wife trashing club as RushLimbaugh. Got a problem with that ???
[/QUOTE] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ no problem,,,,,unless of course you are wife number five,,poor thing. though i have a pretty good idea that ex-wives number 1 through 4 are happy as can be =) however,,,,i have to say,, i find your "woman trashing" pretty sad and pathetic 
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Posted: June 23 2007 at 2:33am |
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" No, that's really not an excuse "
Of course it is. See how you managed to slink out of the north/south crime rate argument so easily ? Crime in the south is rampant. The violent crimes of the south are double that of the north. You are more likely to get mugged in Macon, GA than you are in NYC. And thats a fact. I am on my fifth wife. The first four were not up to expectation. I consider myself to be in the same wife trashing club as Rush Limbaugh. Got a problem with that ??? |
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Posted: June 19 2007 at 6:34am |
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Polly, in MN we haven't gotten that far yet, but we *ARE* getting there. Thankfully I've already paid off my mortgage on the house I bought. I have a fear that if I buy another property now, the value of homes will go down further and I too will be in the upside down mortgage scam, though I will probably buy another rental property.
Thankfully, when I bought my first home at twenty-one I happened to buy a three plex in a fairly not nice end of town. The price was in the low $200,000's. What's cool is that the average rental price is $1,100/month. I've had zero out of pocket expense as my tenants have paid my mortgage for me. Crappy thing is that when house values went up, so did my property taxes. In some ways I want the housing market to tank a little bit so I can make more profit. Eventually the market will hit a bottom, and most real estate moguls are patiently awaiting that bottom so they can buy the property up. But I digress, real estate is always a good investment, and even if the value goes down, unless you live in one of the "People's Republic of..." states, you still own something that can't be taken away at a whim. Ever seen the movie, "Oh Brother Where Art Thou?" In that movie, the Character Delmar says, and quite correctly so, "A man ain't nothing, he don't own land." |
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Including the 20 percent down payment in the cost of the home loans artificially inflated the real estate market. So far, it's down 35%.
People are now finding themselves upside down, with their mortgages far more than the actual value of their homes. Now it's a buyer's market, as people are desperately trying to sell as the market continues to plunge.
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Open your eyes people!
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In response to Diode's comments below:
"I believe that females are the property of men. Yep, thats right, they are, according to the Cons in this country, male property." "Rush Limbaugh is working on his fourth wife. That is because his first three wifes did not live up to his expectations. So he threw them out. I am a good ole Conservative and believe the same. I, as a Conservative, want my females to obey me, no matter what." My response: I'm a female so go F... yourself! |
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 6:13am |
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Okay, so we hate blacks, women....anyone else? Goddamn. I know that the american black community has a crime epidemic on their hands. But, that might have something to do with the fact that we let idiots on tv, to tell young black (and white, and hispanic, and asian) children it's alright to be "hood as BLEEP", or sell drugs, so they can have the finer things in life. We know what advertising does to people...so putting...Little John and the Eastside Boys on TV doesn't really improve matters much. There are aspects of the black community I do not like, but I refuse to lump them all into one category. That's simply ignorance.
Turbo, don't respond to this idiot, he's clearly a dirty, dumb, liberal trying to "make a point". Either that, or he's just a twat. I'm a conservative, and I certainly don't believe in being someone's property. I believe in some semblance of gender roles. I believe that men are men and women are women...and women should not try to be men (or especially these days, men, women). But, I'd like to take the time to say that this guy needs to grow up, and get laid, because I imagine it's probably been a while....if ever.
He can think what he wants about women. If he or anyone like him puts their hands on me, they're getting a 12g slug moneyshot to the family jewels.
He's a few bananas short of a bunch...and most likely some smelly hippy piece of ****, trying his damndest to be profound.
Well you aren't profound, you tard. You're just spewing worthless rhetoric, and you need to go sit at the kiddie table, if you can't behave with the adults.
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Ahhhh Women's Issues. I'm a Vietnam Era Veteran of the Women's Army Corps and later the US Army. I believe TurboyGuy1 you missed a few descriptive phases. Mr. Diode, you sound slicker than snot on a door-knob, yuck. Although, you do sound like the cheese has fallen of your cracker. |
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No, that's really not an excuse. Now that you've made your last post I have a feeling that far more people will begin to do the same, particularly the womenfolk. (Who happen to far outnumber the men on this site) If the South is far more violent than the North is, (Which it's not) it's probably because of people just like you perpetrating violence against women. Are you afraid of something? Did a girl beat you up as a child? Do you have, certain... shortcomings that you're making up for?
Are you out of your mind!?! Conservatives don't believe that women are our property! Muslim extremists do! And particularly not Newt Gingrich. You sound like someone that beats their wife dude. Now that is a particularly troublesome problem in the South: Domestic violence. You talk mean about the South, but you act like the most bass ackwards hillbilly I've ever heard in my life! Hopefully someday they'll make a pill for people like you...
I have quite a lot of respect for Rush, but if he feels the way you do about women, are you sure it was he that threw them out and not the other way around?
You've absolutely piqued my interest. I absolutely have to keep this going now. Please, do tell more of your positions on women. I do think you're throwing out a nice fat Red Herring, and are actually a liberal that's just saying how you believe Conservatives think (Quite incorrectly I might add), I can't believe anyone, outside a fundamental Islamic prison country, talks the way you do. By all means, please continue! And when you say, "...want my females to obey me, no matter what." This says that you've got multiple females. I am at an absolute loss as to how you can have even one female see anything in you by talking like that, though I seriously doubt that you've even seen a naked woman outside of porn.
Is your head still screwed on tight? Do your waves crash a little short of the beach? A few bats in the ol' belfrey? A couple fries short of a happy-meal? A few beers short of a six pack? You a calendar with empty squares? Is your clock missing some numbers? When you took a hit from the fountain of wisdom, did you only gargle? If your brains were made of dynamite would you have enough to blow your nose? If brains were taxed how much would your rebate be? Do I get change when I give you a penny for your thoughts? But please, I absolutely *MUST* hear more from you on women's issues! By all means, please continue! |
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Politics are all Bunk IMHO
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Will you let everbody in your house?
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 6:19pm |
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charming,,do you honestly get many women this way?
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" No it's not that I forgot, I simply do my best to ignore pretty much anything you have to say. "
I think you are using this excuse to pretty much ignore the facts. The facts are that the south, no matter how you define it, is far more violent than the north. Thats a fact, Mr pants on fire. As far as sexism is concerned, I happen to be very Conservative when it comes to male/female issues. Like Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich, I believe that females are the property of men. Yep, thats right, they are, according to the Cons in this country, male property. Rush Limbaugh is working on his fourth wife. That is because his first three wifes did not live up to his expectations. So he threw them out. I am a good ole Conservative and believe the same. I, as a Conservative, want my females to obey me, no matter what. So, you are pretending to be a Conservative yet you argue liberal principal. Are your pants still on fire ????? |
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No it's not that I forgot, I simply do my best to ignore pretty much anything you have to say. Typically it's little more than your personal little issue with the war in Iraq, or horribly sexist, holier than thou insults. Need I repost my personal favorite quotation of yours? I think so:
Ahhhh much better. You're pathetic Diode. You are now trying to dodge the numerous questions I've addressed to you, particularly your rampant sexist nature, personified by the quote above. If you want to cite major crimes, well, let's take a quick look at Washington DC (The world's murder capitol) Chicago IL, hell the entire STATE of Illinois, New York city, Gary Indiana, East St. Louis, Kansas city, etc. Then what about the school shootings in Red Lake MN, Columbine CO? The Son of Sam mureders you posted yourself were in NY. What about the Washington DC shooters? Take a quick look at all the level 3 sex offenders in Northern cities VS Southern ones. Further it really depends on where you draw the line delineating north vs south. Northern people would draw the line of N v S at the Iowa border, while Southerners would draw it about 1/4th of the way through Missouri, North of the Arkansas border. Chances are an ignoramous like yourself will undoubtably try to drawn the line somewhere near Fargo ND so you can point and say conclusively that the North is statistically safer than the South. Further you're not taking into account the monetary dichotomy between rich vs poor, nor are you accounting for the fact that southern crimes are predominantly more property, while northern crimes are more aggrivated. Shouldn't you be off perpetrating some form of violence against a female? Considering you hate them so much... |
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Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America: * According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes. * Most victims of race crime - about 90 per cent - are white, according to the survey "Highlights From 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published in 1993. * Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey. * Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the violent racial crimes of whites. * According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks. These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not co-incidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil rights movement. Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparison, 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean War. When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse). When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II. All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic double standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard." |
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my point is that drug crime and homicide in the US is blacks killing blacks over drug turf
the blacks in america is 10% of the population but 50% of the prison population
crime is crime and serial killing is very rare 99.999% of homicide is domestic violence - find a body look for the spouse
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" ts the prison population breakdown that shows it..
Also when Cops is on TV - they are mostly blacks "
Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that the violent crime rates of the south is twice what it is in the north. That may be because the south has twice as many blacks as the north has, maybe not. Yet, that still does not excuse white crime, which is very violent in the south. |
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Its the prison population breakdown that shows it..
Also when Cops is on TV - they are mostly blacks
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I read that most crime in the US is perpetrated by minorities - especially blacks. "
Wanna go through some of the most hidious crimes in American history and determine if the "perps" were white or black ??? I'm game.............. We can start with the Texas Chain Saw Massacre and the Oklahoma city bombing, and the Gronie rape and murder case in Idaho, and the Son of Sam murders, and some of the other most celebrated, hidious crimes in US history. Let me know where you want to start............ |
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I read that most crime in the US is perpetrated by minorities - especially blacks.
Certainly it appears that way on Cops
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Here you go Turby guy, pants on fire, did you forget this link so
quickly ??? http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=16550 |
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" Have *YOU* checked the crime rate lately??? As a real live police
officer I'm acutely aware that the crime rates in Northern cities is
ten times what it is in Southern ones "
Hey turby guy, pants on fire, I posted some FBI crime stats here only a few weeks ago. You know they showed that crime rates in the south were at least twice the crime rates in the north. Do you want me to post the crime rates, north vs south, again ? |
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Yeah, I don't see why carry laws are even disputed. You're much less likely to mess around with someone if you suspect he might have a gun on him.
I do however, like that law they're passing through that sends an automated list of people who shouldn't own firearms (ie. psychos, child molestors, rapists, etc.) to firearms dealers. That's about the only form of gun control I agree with. Keep them far away from felons and mentally unstable people, let everyone else over the age of 18 have one. Oh, and trigger locks *rolls eyes*....those too...lmao.
Our local chief sherriff for a long time was a friend of my mother, and he was pushing hard for the castle doctrine. He's a great man. Honest as hell, and stands for what he believes in. He was a republican, but he wasn't afraid to stand up and say that he thought keeping Terri Schaivo on life support was wrong. He wasn't afraid to say he was for letting people shoot violent criminals that come on their property to harm them, in a city full of liberals who are still having acid flashbacks...haha. We were very lucky to have him around...It's rare you find a politically appointed man, willing to say what he means and mean what he says.
And, anyone interested in Nitroglycerine will find a way. You are right, it's not that hard to make. I don't think it should deter anyone from making biofuel. It's cheap to make, efficient (a solvent that actually cleans all of the gunk out of the engine), and it's environmentally sound. Can't argue with that...
I agree with the fact that it's not your job to enforce taxes. I think they force the police force to focus on some pretty ridiculous things, sometimes, when they could be out catching, condemning, and prosecuting criminals...real criminals. Not kids, skateboarding at the post office after hours, not people jay walking, and certainly not people sneaking red diesel in their trucks...hehe.
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Heh, I knew country music came from Irish music, for certain. And, now this whole bit makes a lot more sense.
Southern accents always had an uncanny similarity to Irish accents to me...
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Kilt...
This is a bit extreme... Topic: $US facing IMMINENT COLLAPSE compared to this... while the global economic outlook was quite positive, large uncertainties surrounded it, Rob Vos, the Director of the Development Policy and Analysis Division of the Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA), told correspondents at a Headquarters press conference today. ............................. Robert Vos (Netherlands) (He's no Einstein...) Listen to him tell us what we already know... in UN Speak...  .......................... Developing countries are catching up with the Industriialized world? (he then goes on to contradict that) ............................ 30 June 06 Press Conference: Mr. Rob
Vos, Director for Policy and Analysis, Department of Economic and Social
Affairs, will brief on "The World Economic and Social Survey" ............................... The UN is a ....club of sorts... ps... try to find his educational credentials. |
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I went to Ireland and the accents are different every 5 miles but the Northern Ireland accent is the American accent - especially the Southern American accent.
Examples - Rang - for Ring. Far - for Fire. Fanger - for Finger. Then there are general expressions especially - That there and This here.
Hundreds of thousands of Northern Ireland Ulster Scots or Scotch Irish protestants went to Virginia, The Carolinas, Tennessee and Kentucky in the 1700s and it was these people who founded the United States and who gave you your accent and the music and Log Cabins.
The Ulster Scot of Northern Ireland and the Southern American are the same as far as I am concerned. So when I fell in love with Southern women I was falling in love with women from my own tribe that live in America.
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OMFG! Marry me instead of him!!! You don't want to deal with his mom anyway! (Kidding) Almost all line police officers are all for Castle doctrine laws. The politically appointed police chiefs may not be, but they've got to spout whatever liberal drivel their bosses want them to, to keep their jobs. When they instituted CCW in Florida the violent crime rate was halved. Then when they took those women and trained them all in the Dolphin's stadium in proper use of firearms and gave them all permit's to carry the rape rate was cut by two thirds. All police officers who are pro freedom know this one.
It's all dyed red specifically because we'd all put that stuff in our diesel tanks if we got the chance. We're all supposed to look for it whenever we pull over a diesel vehicle, but I've only done it once when the driver of a big-rig was being a jerk. It's not my job to enforce the government's tax system.
I've seen some people doing that and thought it was pretty cool. It's funny when you pull over one of them because the car smells like French Fries. I'm always afraid that eventually someone will figure out how to Nitrate it into nitroglycerine, which is very easy to do. |
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Posted: June 13 2007 at 7:15am |
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Yeah...it makes those "No Trespassing" signs a little more worth abiding by (kidding). In all honesty, it's a great policy. If someone came on my property with a weapon, trying to harm my family...it would be hard not to shoot them. Concealed carry laws, and the Castle doctrine are what help to keep our violent crime rates low. Down here, there's still the fear of tresspassing on the wrong dude's property, and getting shot.
Instituting it on a national level would be tough. There are all of these anti-gun (and anti-everything else, for that matter) zealots who think that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens will only lead to more crime (as if the gun grows legs, runs off, and shoots someone itself)...even to protect your home.
My fiance's mother is one of those people who seems to think nothing bad will ever happen to her, and if it does she'd rather "be shot than shoot someone else". *rolls eyes*. It's a lot of dramatic, self-righteous nonsense...but, I don't much care as long as it doesn't affect my right to tote a gun. If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will carry them...so then, damnit...I'll be an outlaw.
And, the oil thing is funny. Down here they dye the industrial/farming diesel red, and occasionally (just every once in a while), you'll see a cop pulled over with a dipstick down in someone's tank, busting them for using it without paying road tax on it. That's what that #2 fuel reminds me of. The red diesel's like 1.50 a gallon, and many people would die to get fuel that cheap. And, really the only people who can get away with it are people who own industrial equipment companies, farms, etc. But, I've run into a few that run it.
But, turbo, you know you can use vegetable oil in a diesel, right? You'd have to flush the engine out first, but, if you add methoxide (methanol and lye) to it, and remove most of the glycerine, wash it, remove all of the water from it, and syphon it in, it will make your diesel purr. : ) In an emergency, it would be possible to use straight vegetable oil, but make sure the truck is running HOT before you put it in, otherwise the glycerine in the veggie oil will clog the engine.
It gets about the same MPG as regular petro diesel, and farmers/trucking industry has been using it for decades...
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Posted: June 13 2007 at 6:43am |
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I've put some money in crude oil. Give me one hurricane or terrorist attack and my investment of money at nearly $65/barrel will make profit. It's easier money than I got when I bought property.
Speaking of oil, my father bought three barrels of #2 fuel oil for use in our garage heater. I found that this stuff is exactly diesel fuel and can be put in his diesel truck with little risk. I understand that this is considered to be tax evasion, but in an emergency like a pandemic, I don't think anyone's going to be coming to toss me in jail for putting it in a vehicle. I *DO* like that whole castle doctrine law they've put into practice in Florida. I wish they'd institute it on a national level. |
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Posted: June 13 2007 at 6:28am |
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I had to laugh about the crime rate comment, because I know (from being a gun person) that the (specifically, violent) crime rate in the north is much higher....most likely because many places in New England don't have concealed carry permits....etc.
And, I'm sorry to anyone I offended (turboguy...)for the northerner jokes . I get a little angry sometimes. It's hard to be a born and bred, sixth generation Floridian, love the little idiosyncracies about Florida, and watch it turn into one big disney world.... I was having a long over-due vent.
But, I will survive...one "If it's called tourist season, how come we can't shoot them" bumper sticker at a time.....lmao. And yes, this is the dirty dirty south.....
 . Recognize.And Kilt, without hijacking this thread, you are a smart man for going for southern women. We can cook, we have class, and we have that good southern hospitality. I also want to say that I always thought southern accents came from Ireland, and northern accents more from the english. It just made a lot of sense to me. I always wondered if that was true.
But, anyway...back to our despicable fiat currency that is probably literally worth no more than toilet paper.
What do you guys think of investing in palladium? I still feel gold and silver are the safest, but I've been hearing good things about palladium and platinum. Other than their obviously sky high prices, I guess they are used in technological applications. But, I realize that while tech industries may not always be active (or functioning), people will always be vain or get married, and jewelry/gold will always have a trading value.
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Posted: June 12 2007 at 10:45pm |
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The American Civil War is over.
I loved two Southern Belles - one from Texas who was killed in a plane crash and the other from Virginia - I let her go and broke her heart because I cared for her and knew we couldnt be together. I am an Aussie and I have many relatives who went to the Southern States from Northern Ireland where my fathers people are. The Southerns speak with a Northern Ireland accent. Anyway - the topic of this thread is the US Dollar - lets talk about it folks. |
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Posted: June 12 2007 at 9:51pm |
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FIrst and foremost, I am not pasty, nor am I fat. I never wear socks with sandals... in fact I never wear sandals unless I'm on a ocean beach, and since there's not one here, I relegate them to patchouli smelling hippies. I'm a pretty decent looking guy, work out regularly (And I've got Oldasrocks' wife as a witness), and have an outstanding work ethic. Your stereotype, Floridagirl is just as bad as his. Oh and I have lived in Missouri for a year before I moved back. I just prefer it here as there's just nowhere to eat good food in the cities I lived in. The bottom line is that people are people, no matter where you go... Except California. They're just weird... 
Anyway, Diode. Your attack is, well, unnecessary. I particularly enjoyed this comment:
It must have taken you all day to think that well crafted drivel up. It is illuminating how your distaste for women shows though. Who are you to espouse Christian values and say something so off the wall sexist? Have *YOU* checked the crime rate lately??? As a real live police officer I'm acutely aware that the crime rates in Northern cities is ten times what it is in Southern ones. The South is poorer, it is true, and their crimes are more petty thefts etc, while in Northern "Civilized" cities you have a victim culture that allows major crimes to go without resistance. Further the utter lack of basic respect in Northern areas, particularly against women, which you've exemplified amazingly well, is at near epidemic levels. And I'm sure she has a pretty good life. Last time I checked she's going to a very nice, well respected college. Can you say the same? Floridagirl, don't reply to him please. All you'll do is feed his rage. Also there's that saying, "Give a fool enough rope..." Oh, and please, don't hijack this thread, I actually liked the way this thread was going before someone came around and spouted verbal garbage for their own little agenda... *COUGH* Diode *COUGH* |
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Posted: June 12 2007 at 8:58pm |
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" Flori Duhhh Girly girl said:
at my university, all of the "northern" kids are either cokeheads, rich little snobs, or "northern christians" that get caught stealing from walmart and having casual sex with every attractive male that gives them the time of day. " You are so full of Siht it is almost pathetic. AAMOF, you are a worthless human female piece of southern ****. Have you checked the crime rates lately ???? North versus dirty South ?? Have you checked the criminal way of life the dirty south lives ??? When you do check the facts let me know....... Get a life loser......................... |
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Posted: June 12 2007 at 7:33pm |
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Floriduhgirl, I'm from Ohio. I can't help if I have a pastey looking body...lol...we rarely get sun:O) We aren't all bad:O) That's why I'm coming down to see you folks in Florida to get rid of my farmer tan:O)But seriously I hear what you are saying
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Posted: June 12 2007 at 5:45pm |
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You go Floriduhgirl! And I am from the North!!
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Posted: June 12 2007 at 12:39pm |
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Listen, pal. I don't know where the hell you get off acting all high and mighty...or insulting the south. I normally don't really care when people toss around stereotypes, blah, blah, blah...."redneck" this, and "cracker" that. I hear it all the time from ignorant northern folk coming down here in droves, wearing Tevas with socks, buying worthless garbage from tourist traps, and feeding baby alligators from the 7th hole of a pirate ship shaped mini golf course, on the beach...which only exists because some rich northern idiots came down, plowed away about 15 beach shantys to build it. All of this "condo" and "activity resort" building was done with nary an inkling that they were destroying our little island community.
It isn't bad enough that we have to deal with your farmer's tans and "funny accents", but we have to hear the nonsense on an almost regular basis about how "ignorant" we are. We have to deal with you "ultra-civilized", "ultra-urban", too cool for school motherBLEEPers, coming down here and stripping all of the life out of our cities, while you wax philosophical about how our simple little lives are so base without foie gras and starbucks, and how horrible our public school systems are. Get a life. Honestly.
As far as the "learn you" comment is concerned, I am quite confident that I am not only as educated as any northerner, but I have far more sense than most of them. At my university, all of the "northern" kids are either cokeheads, rich little snobs, or "northern christians" that get caught stealing from walmart and having casual sex with every attractive male that gives them the time of day. I rarely see any northerners that come down here with work ethic, self-pride, or an ability to think for themselves. Because, unfortunately, no one from up there with any integrity has the money to come vacation here. Your working class is the only class that has any.
Being from the south is a point of pride for me. I don't give a **** about the politically correct rhetoric about "slavery". I've never owned a slave. My mother's family were Welsh/Irish-Catholic immigrants who left their beautiful country because of the protestant idiots (how does it feel?) who felt it was okay to starve them to death, in order to force them out of their own land... How christian of them. My fathers side were Danish confederate soldiers, who cared nothing about slavery (because anyone who has a clue about the Civil War knows it had nothing to do with that), but only about their homes. All of my family was, is, and will be well educated, well spoken, and poised.
You can try to put down the south, you can try to institute some sort of politically correct garbage that makes people who appreciate their home guilty, but, I am afraid that we will keep on making barbecue, shooting guns, and laughing at you "holier than thou" northern folk with your fat, pasty bodies, and high in the sky noses.
So spare us.
Your comments are unwelcome.
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Posted: June 11 2007 at 6:28pm |
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I apologize pardner, I live in Minneapolis Minnesota. This is widely considered far from the Mason-Dixon line. I grew up here and was schooled in the Liberal indoctrination camp... er Public School system.
I never advocated slavery, quite the opposite. The Civil war was not to free anyone, but did good come of it? Why yes it did. It, for the most part, ended slavery in the US. You can convolute the Civil war to make it whatever you want it to be, but the bottom line is that it wasn't for reasons anywhere near as noble as freeing anyone, it was about money, and profiteering off of a war. You make a comparison to the current war in Iraq, and I will agree that we went in there for all the wrong reasons. The reason about the WMD's was just an excuse. (And if you doubt for a nanosecond that there was chemical weapons there then you're being naive. They were there, 100,000 dead kurds can't all be wrong) There's good that's going to come out of this war like keeping oil prices down, hedging the US as the dominant superpower until the end of oil, and giving the idiot muslim extremists something to die for and somewhere to do it other than US cities. I'm fully of the opinion that the current fiasco the Iraq war's become is tragic in the extreme. The civilians need to point our military in the direction and let them do the management of the war. Civilians screwing around is exactly what happened in Vietnam. Anyway, this is not what this thread is about, and I'm not about to allow this thread to get hijacked for your own KParcell-esque diatribes on the current political fiasco in Iraq. The discussion as far as I'm concerned, in regards to you, is over. If you want to continue this debate in another thread, by all means, start one. |
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