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Turbo dude, you should stay in for the long run, what happens if it hits 2000, sound crazy, not so since we're headed for hyper inflation.  You might see 5000 gold?
r we there yet?
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Bernanke Testimony Turns Stocks Lower
Wednesday April 2, 10:24 am ET
By Joe Bel Bruno, AP Business Writer
Wall Street Pulls Back As Bernanke Says Economy May Weaken in the First Half of This Year


NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street pulled back Wednesday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress the economy may weaken in the first half of the year, a trend that would mean the U.S. is in a recession.
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Bernanke's prepared testimony to Congress' Joint Economic Committee was viewed as the closest he has come to suggesting the possibility of a recession caused by tightening credit markets, a slumping housing industry, and recent problems in the financial sector.

The Fed chairman also offered no assurances of further interest rate cuts this year, and that likely disappointed some investors, leading them to start collecting profits from Tuesday's huge gain.

The market began the second quarter with a big rally, sending the Dow Jones industrials up nearly 400 points, on renewed confidence the worst of the credit crisis was over. But, there is still great uncertainty about the economy -- and Bernanke's hinting at a recession was unnerving to the market, which last week gave up ground on worries that consumers were cutting back on their spending.

Still, after such a big advance, some profit-taking was also to be expected. In midmorning trading, the Dow Jones industrials fell 33.14, or 0.26 percent, to 12,621.22.

Broader indexes also dipped. The Standard & Poor's 500 index fell 3.02, or 0.22 percent, to 1,367.16; and the Nasdaq composite index fell 3.02, or 0.13 percent, to 2,359.73.

Treasury bonds, which are considered safe during times of recession, stalled as Bernanke was giving comments before Congress. The 10-year Treasury note's yield, which moves opposite its price, was unchanged from late Tuesday's 3.55 percent.

Oil prices were steady, with a barrel of light sweet crude up 20 cents at $101.18 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The dollar was mixed against other major currencies, while gold fell slightly.

Though numerous economists have said they believe a recession is under way, Fed officials generally are cautious when describing the economy. A recession consists of at least two consecutive quarters of economic contraction and can only be declared in hindsight.

Bernanke outlined some of the steps taken in the past few weeks to help boost the financial positions of the nation's biggest investment banks. He offered that a failure of Bear Stearns Cos. would have been difficult to contain, and that was one reason why the Fed orchestrated the investment bank's sale to JPMorgan Chase & Co. last month.

Investors also weighed fresh economic data that indicated factory orders in the U.S. have fallen for a second straight month. The Commerce Department said orders dropped by 1.3 percent in February, about double the downturn that economists had been expecting.

In corporate news, Best Buy Co. said its fourth-quarter profit slipped 3 percent as customer traffic slowed after the holidays. But, the electronics retailer still beat Wall Street estimates, and shares rose $1.71, or 4 percent, to $45.18.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies declined 2.24, or 0.32 percent, to 708.41.

Declining issues barely outpaced advancers on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to 127.8 million shares.

Overseas, Tokyo's Nikkei index closed up 4.21 percent. There were gains on European bourses too, with London's FTSE 100 rising 0.08 percent, Frankfurt's DAX advancing 0.31 percent and Paris' CAC 40 gaining 0.23 percent.

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Good job they will go up in value,and so will this....                                                                        http://artec-inc.net/home.htmWink
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It looks like the market will tank tomorrow! BewaRE............
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Hey Waterboy, you may have a better return on your investment if you buy

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I got Olympic medals in advance  of the Olympics in China at a HUGE discount,cause the Olympic games will not take place in China this summer. Call fast though there running out.I got all the Gold ones at half price. The Chinese Government needed the money to hire stronger forces to fight the Dali Lamas.Plus today they had to run more ads in the newspaper cause "TERRORISTS"are threatening to kidnap athletes,and foriegn media.Can you believe it the terrorists are now looking more Asian? You cant tell them apart from the rest of the Chinese? There going to not just disrupt the games,but cause them to be canceled.Cancel your flight,or did you by mistake make reservations with American airlines? That wont matter anyway,cause theyll be canceling that flight too?  Good luck!!Wink PS BUY THIS!!!!!! www.artec-inc.net   ATKJ.PK Youll be VERY happy you did....$$$$$$
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One word general electric.
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NYSE, NASDAQ, AMEX, NYMEX & NYBOT
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Cool can I rub shoulders too or are they really out of my league?You ought to tell them all to be buying www.artec-inc.net   Its only a matter of time now!Wink
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Whats this week going to bring? Does anyone have any idea?
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More of the same, i don't think anything earthshaking will happen.  No matter what  happens, if it is bad the Fed and it's friends will be well taken care of.  If the stock market looks like it is going to tank, you can bet lots of stocks will be purchased by the government to keep the stock market above 12,000.  Price of oil - who knows.  Most of us are unable to invest short or long to make a difference, so just stay out of the commodities.  This is not the time to be on margin.  Gold and silver, same thing, if you want to own it, now's a good time to buy, prices are low but the commodity can make and will continue to make large swings either direction.  Buy the real thing but don't have margin.  Financials my guess is we'll see more of the same, large wirte off's and the stock market going up instead of down each time.  Maybe citibank will write off the other 90 billion in bad loans they have, but probably not, just a little at a time.  Personally, i'm going to be on the side lines watching the action.
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Buffet says were not at the bottom yet? Watch for slow downs and lows in the market this week. Unless oil prices drop sharply. The recession will start looking very serious. With oil prices rising this week????? Forget it get out of the market. 2000 will repeat itself all over again 10 times faster.
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Stocks heading down today..

Markets »
Updated: 10:50 am ET, June 02
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Dow 12,501.05
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Nasdaq 2,495.73
-12.77
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I think this week will be difficult for the stock market.
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Originally posted by waterboy waterboy wrote:

I think this week will be difficult for the stock market.
 
What do you think is going to happen?
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From Reuters

Greenspan says U.S. economy on brink of recession

Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:10am EDT

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan warned on Tuesday the U.S. economy was "on the brink" of a recession.

He said via video link to an investment conference in Johannesburg the chances of that economy falling into recession were more than 50 percent and a rebound was unlikely.

Asked if the U.S. economy was in recession, Greenspan said: "We are on the brink". "A rebound at this stage is not something I think is in the immediate outlook," he added.


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CRASH.... ??? Probably not this week.

Something big would probably have to happen in order to make it crash. A major attack against Iran would probably cause it.
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U.S. consumer confidence plunges again

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Last update: 10:00 a.m. EDT June 24, 2008

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. consumer confidence plunged in June to reach its fifth lowest reading ever, the Conference Board reported Tuesday, as expectations reached a record low.
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Faster Inflation May Unleash `Financial Tsunami':

By Mark Gilbert

June 24 (Bloomberg) -- Rising consumer prices will leave more U.S. consumers unable to pay their debts and may lead to a ``financial tsunami,'' according to Bennet Sedacca, president of money manager Atlantic Advisors LLC in Winter Park, Florida.

``Whether it is anecdotal or statistical evidence, I see inflation everywhere, and this is where the financial tsunami cometh,'' Sedacca wrote in a report published yesterday. ``A battered, over-indebted consumer, if forced to retrench, could create even more problems for the banking system as loan delinquencies would begin to rise even further. All sorts of delinquencies are rising. This is now a systemic issue.''

The four-part chart of the day shows how U.S. householders are struggling to pay their home loans. The top white chart shows the surge in delinquencies on all mortgages, while the yellow one measures foreclosures. The green chart tracks delinquencies on subprime adjustable-rate mortgages, and the purple one shows subprime mortgages that are 60 days behind on their payments.

Sedacca wrote that current financial-market conditions remind him of ``someone standing on a lonely beach, armed with only a small bucket, trying to stop a rare tsunami that hits the shores. It is how I feel about our markets and the tools being utilized by the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank and other regulatory bodies. They are overmatched for what they are facing and, worse yet, they helped create the mess in the first place by being far too easy with money and debt creation.''

To contact the reporter on this story: Mark Gilbert in London at magilbert@bloomberg.net
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Originally posted by waterboy waterboy wrote:

Todays a bad day on Wall Street.
 
- 200 + oil is up nearly $4.00 today
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Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. (and have a reliable source)
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Originally posted by H2HPrep H2HPrep wrote:

Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less. (and have a reliable source)
 
Unfortunatly it's not that easy...... 
1. It takes a minimum of five years to get a well online and that is pushing it.
2. There is a serious equipment shortage. We are talking years worth of backorders.
3. Where are all the - trained - people going to come from to drill/operate these wells?
 
A great article in Time Mag....

"even if tomorrow we opened up every square mile of the outer Continental Shelf to offshore rigs, even if we drilled the entire state of Alaska and pulled new refineries out of thin air, the impact on gas prices would be minimal and delayed at best.....

The reason is simple: the U.S. has an estimated 3% of global petroleum reserves, but consumes 24% of the world's oil. Offshore territories and public lands like ANWR that don't allow drilling may contain up to 75 billion barrels of oil, according to the EIA. That may sound like a lot, but it's not enough to make a significant difference in a world where global oil demand is expected to rise 30% by 2030, to nearly 120 million barrels a day...."

Time.com

 
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The point is to become energy independent.
We are buying the life blood of our economy from a war zone,
owned by our enemies and then shipping it half way areound the world.
 
There is no one solution. It will take some conservation, drilling the OCS,
converting coal to gas, mine the shale in the Rockies, drill ANWR, add generators
to our existing dams, use wind generation, use tide generation, solar, more use of alternative energy cars and the entrepreneural genius that is the U.S.
 
No, it's not easy but what in real life is?
 
The Manhattan Project was completed in 5 years.
We developed a successful moon space craft in 9 years
using slide-rule technology.
There is a guy sitting at a monitor right now using a joy
stick to manipulate a robot to dig for water on MARS.
I think we can quickly get to the point to tell our enemies to
drink their oil and pound their sand.
 
 
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I read in newsweek yesterday that we should expect 7.00/gal by 2012 with a lot of fluctations in between.Right now the air is so bad in Calif. that they are reccomending no one be out in it for very long--which means no bike riding.
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Oil went up $5.00 per barrel in the last 24 hours.

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Ok so the logic is Fringe...just wait because it will take too long to drill for oil?

We don't drill now we will be in bigger trouble 10 years from now.

Americans never learn in the 1970 we had an oil embargo and Detroit made smaller cars for 5 years then went back to the big hummers, government gave credits for solar for a few years and then quit!

Well we are back to the 1970's again only dumber! Now our Congress will let foreign countries drill but not the USA!
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I think we will be at $7 a gallon way before 2012. Oil prices are just going NUTS...and it's not going to stop...inflation is everywhere...it's a runaway train. This is not good...not just the US.
 
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I think i saw predictions of $7 by 2010, so I have to make my own, $10 by 2010.  I am looking at the run away inflation we are having along with the rest of the world.  I'm not sure it's a bad thing because it will make more people start to conserve energy, possible inspire them to plant a garden, learn how to can food, and basically learn how to stock up for a rainy day.  Other benefits will be solar will finally become  our energy source.  And i'm sure youall can figure out other "lights at the end of the tunnel".
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DOW JONES PLUNGES 350 -- LOWEST POINT SINCE 2006...
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Oil rising by $2.00 an hour this morning.
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I just read that this June was worse than any other since the Great Depression.  If that wasn't just a little unnerving!
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"These are days when many are discouraged. In the 93 years of my life, depressions have come and gone. Prosperity has always returned and will again.”[
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Just a few statistics to go along with all the good news:

  • Crude oil up 42.5%
  • Ethanol up 20.7%
  • Heating oil up 43.9%
  • Natural gas up 76.5%
  • Unleaded gas up 39.5%
  • Cattle up 1.0%
  • Corn up 58.8%
  • Soy beans up; 26.4%
  • Coffee up 5.9%
  • Aluminum up 32.7%
  • Copper up 25.7%
  • Platinum up 33.4%
  • Gold up 6.0%
  • Silver up 13.4%.
  • S&P 500 down 10.24%
  • Frankfurt DAX down 18.32%
  • London FTSE down 12.23%
  • Paris CAC down 19.64%
  • Hong Kong Hang Sang down 18.33%.
  • Tokyo Nikkei down 9.47%
  • Singapore Straits down 14.04%.
  • Seoul Composite down 9.57%
  • Sydney All Ordinary down 15.76%
  • Taipei Telex down 7.40%

 


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I hope this guy is wrong.

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LaRo...I agree with you. I think it will be more like $10 in 2010 rather than $7...$7 will be here by 2009 sometime unless things turn around somehow...but then again...what do I know...LOL
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Originally posted by LaRo LaRo wrote:

I think i saw predictions of $7 by 2010, so I have to make my own, $10 by 2010.  I am looking at the run away inflation we are having along with the rest of the world.  I'm not sure it's a bad thing because it will make more people start to conserve energy, possible inspire them to plant a garden, learn how to can food, and basically learn how to stock up for a rainy day.  Other benefits will be solar will finally become  our energy source.  And i'm sure youall can figure out other "lights at the end of the tunnel".
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Oil will hit $150.00 by friday spinning the stock market out of control. Not likes of these things seen since 1929.
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