Epidemic _ Namibia

4=laro wrote: Turboguy, who is behind bringing these illigal people into the country?  Have you looked into that?  We had a problem like that in Texas when El Salvador was having a revolution and it turned out to be a church group.  I'm certain they think they are doing the right thing, until something like TB is reintroduced into an area.  They are the first to run for cover and you have to clean up the mess.  To bad they can't be fined for everyone they illigally bring into this country, if they would be, i'm certain it would  stop.  Your free hospital must be overrun and if it isn't free, they won't be paid anyway.

In my very humble opinion:

This is for the sake of discussion - but I will comment I am 1/4 Cherokee and a lot of my ancestors had the same considerations as people swarmed into their sacred ground they had lived on for 40,000 years. Especially when they began to pass out blankets and entire villages were wiped out.

The entire west coast was not originally owned by America nor was the Louisiana territory.  Against their will, a vast number of blacks from Africa were brought here to work the fields and enslaved.

So, it really depends on perspective. To native Indians everyone else but them are immigrants who invaded their country and took their land.

This has been the cry of countries and peoples for over 10,000 years.

It is unlikely that the majority of people who came to the New World were rich. And with them they brought disease. In fact, if you move from one state to another, you may be exposed to hundreds of strains of new viruses so that if you caught one every day, a new one, it would take you a lifetime to develop immunity.

One interesting comment was concerning a sign at the border warning illegal immigrants and several hundred feet later was a second sign.

"Help wanted."

The heated debate on immigration will continue in Washington and the rest of the U.S. Personally, in my youth, on hands and knees I picked apricots, prunes, and strawberries in fields freshly sprayed with toxic pesticides. I did not have to. My parents were interested in me learning the Protestant work ethic, even though we had money to live on and food to eat.

Stepping into this debate would be like stepping onto the firing range during my military training. We are all immigrants. Even before the native Americans I am sure some sort of someone was roaming around the plains and eating berries and hunting mammoths.

I underwent tb testing last year, so I have experience. TB testing is a multi-step process. They inject a fluid into your skin (not into the vein) and then you come back next week. If you have a measurable bump, it means that you have antibodies or have been exposed to it, but not TB itself. If you have a bump you get your lungs xrayed and if there is a spot of the right kind, you have TB. It can be treated but it's a death sentence for a career in healthcare.

Baby, some people are opting out of immunizations. They only need to have a piece of paper that says that they have moral/religious objections to getting vaccinated and they can't force these people to get it. They further can't deny anyone an education, so they just let it go at that.

I too believe that people have the right to do whatever they want, but if it presents a direct threat to me, my family, and my countrymen, then if they choose to leave the US unvaccinated, they made the choice to not be able to come back into this country potentially with eradicated diseases.

In my city we have a *HUGE* influx of Somali immigrants, many, if not most are illegal. They've re-introduced TB to places where previously there was none. That's not racism, or xenophobia, it's a fact. When your homeland has 50 -60% of everyone actively infected with TB, and you bring them over to the US, you're bringing in a previously eradicated epidemic.

TB was previously almost totally eradicated from the US, but with the immigration debacle we're dealing with, it's BAAAAACK.

Even if all types of Meningitis isn't prevented with the innoculation, it does provide protection from a majority of the varieties, particularly the ones that they constantly get over there.

This is from a lack of vaccination.

It's a great example of what happens to people that refuse vaccinations for themselves and their children.

A friend of an old girlfriend refused to get her kids vaccinated, ever, and they would travel the world. I had quite a laugh at them when her idiot kid caught Hep A somewhere. Truth be told, you're just as likely to pick up Hep A here in the US as you are abroad, but the fact is that everyone needs vaccinations because it prevents epidemics like this one.