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 Topic: war or revolution: new world orderPosted: March 23 2009 at 8:54am |
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isnt it strange that china doesn't care for mixing there races, why because they want world conquest
http://valparaiso.indymedia.org/news/2009/03/27337.php CHINA IS BECOMING A GLOBAL THEATER "A new power balance will emerge gradually and most likely indirectly" |
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 8:59am |
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as you can see in history only the ones on top of it all where 1 culture, is china aware of this ? of course they are they know history well..
http://valparaiso.indymedia.org/news/2009/03/27337.php The full engagement of China with the world means Daguo Xintai ( "mentality of global power") or Heping Jueqi ("peaceful rise" as Zheng Bijian introduced in 2003)? Has China a "mission" as a global power as the Portuguese, the Dutch, the British, and the US had in the past 650 years? |
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 11:30am |
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China and Japan own a lot of our debt...it is in their best interest to see the USA succeed.
At present there is a lot of cooperation between countries to get economies moving.
A lot of Americans are investing in Chinese companies.
They realize... if we hurt $ ...they hurt $.
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 11:37am |
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Posted: January 06, 2009 9:07 pm Eastern By Drew Zahn
Conflicts across the globe and an international respect for Barack Obama have created the perfect setting for establishment of "a New World Order," according to Henry Kissinger, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former secretary of state under President Nixon. Kissinger has long been an integral figure in U.S. foreign policy, holding positions in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations. Author of over a dozen books on foreign policy, Kissinger was also named by President Bush as the chairman of the Sept. 11 investigatory commission. Kissinger made the remark in an interview with CNBC's "Squawk on the Street" hosts Mark Haines and Erin Burnett at the New York Stock Exchange, after Burnett asked him what international conflict would define the Obama administration's foreign policy. "The president-elect is coming into office at a moment when there is upheaval in many parts of the world simultaneously," Kissinger responded. "You have India, Pakistan; you have the jihadist movement. So he can't really say there is one problem, that it's the most important one. But he can give new impetus to American foreign policy partly because the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world. His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when, really, a new world order can be created. It's a great opportunity, it isn't just a crisis." Kissinger's comments are captured at roughly the two-minute mark of the following video: Editor's note: The video includes a balloon in the first several seconds promoting a MySpace page that includes profane language and music and is not endorsed in any way by WND.
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The phrase 'new world order' traces back at least as far as 1940, when author H.G. Wells used it as the title of a book about a socialist, unified, one-world government. The phrase has also been linked to American presidents, including Woodrow Wilson, whose work on establishing the League of Nations pioneered the concept of international government bodies, and to the first President Bush, who used it in a 1989 speech. "A new partnership of nations has begun, and we stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment," said Bush before a joint session of Congress. "Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective – a new world order – can emerge: A new era … in which the nations of the world, east and west, north and south, can prosper and live in harmony." The phrase "New World Order" causes alarm for many Americans, particularly those concerned about an international governing body trumping U.S. sovereignty or those that interpret biblical prophecy to foretell the establishment of a one-world government as key to the rise of the Antichrist. Conspiracy theorists, too, have latched on to the phrase, concerned that powerful financial or government figures are secretly plotting to rule the world. Kissinger's ties to government and international powers – as well as his use of the phrase – have made him suspect in the eyes of many who are wary of what "new world order" might actually mean. "There is a need for a new world order," Kissinger told PBS interviewer Charlie Rose last year, "I think that at the end of this administration, with all its turmoil, and at the beginning of the next, we might actually witness the creation of a new order – because people looking in the abyss, even in the Islamic world, have to conclude that at some point, ordered expectations must return under a different system." As WND reported, Kissinger was also part of last year's super-secret Bilderberg Group, an organization of powerful international elites, including government, business, academic and journalistic representatives, that has convened annually since 1954. According to sources that have penetrated the high-security meetings, the Bilderberg meetings emphasize a globalist agenda and promote the idea that the notion of national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive. CNBC's Haines concluded the Kissinger interview by asking, "Are you confident about the people President-elect Obama has chosen to surround him?" Kissinger replied, "He has appointed an extraordinarily able group of people in both the international and financial fields." |
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 12:20pm |
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national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive. right.
the EU, China etc. and tell them all, that national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive, and we'll all sing Kumbaya. And the result of our togetherness will be...... A New World Order. .................. |
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 7:23pm |
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U.S. Signals Openness to Dialogue With Taliban Factions
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my my... we might be closer to that sing along than I imagined.
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Posted: March 24 2009 at 12:28am |
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Now that China is the largest holder of Us Federal assets ................Closer to the New World Order ........... China calls for new reserve currencyBy Jamil Anderlini in Beijing Published: March 23 2009 12:16 | Last updated: March 24 2009 00:06
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China’s central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund. In an essay posted on the People’s Bank of China’s website, Zhou Xiaochuan, the central bank’s governor, said the goal would be to create a reserve currency “that is disconnected from individual nations and is able to remain stable in the long run, thus removing the inherent deficiencies caused by using credit-based national currencies”. Analysts said the proposal was an indication of Beijing’s fears that actions being taken to save the domestic US economy would have a negative impact on China. “This is a clear sign that China, as the largest holder of US dollar financial assets, is concerned about the potential inflationary risk of the US Federal Reserve printing money,” said Qu Hongbin, chief China economist for HSBC. Although Mr Zhou did not mention the US dollar, the essay gave a pointed critique of the current dollar-dominated monetary system. “The outbreak of the [current] crisis and its spillover to the entire world reflected the inherent vulnerabilities and systemic risks in the existing international monetary system,” Mr Zhou wrote. China has little choice but to hold the bulk of its $2,000bn of foreign exchange reserves in US dollars, and this is unlikely to change in the near future. To replace the current system, Mr Zhou suggested expanding the role of special drawing rights, which were introduced by the IMF in 1969 to support the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate regime but became less relevant once that collapsed in the 1970s. Today, the value of SDRs is based on a basket of four currencies – the US dollar, yen, euro and sterling – and they are used largely as a unit of account by the IMF and some other international organisations. China’s proposal would expand the basket of currencies forming the basis of SDR valuation to all major economies and set up a settlement system between SDRs and other currencies so they could be used in international trade and financial transactions. Countries would entrust a portion of their SDR reserves to the IMF to manage collectively on their behalf and SDRs would gradually replace existing reserve currencies. Mr Zhou said the proposal would require “extraordinary political vision and courage” and acknowledged a debt to John Maynard Keynes, who made a similar suggestion in the 1940s. |
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Posted: March 24 2009 at 7:11am |
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Reporter Jamil could be more accurate... It's > Japan< that holds most of our debt.
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Posted: March 25 2009 at 9:29pm |
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Just what we need, a global currency war
Posted: March 24, 2009, 2:35 PM by NP Editor
Zhou Xiaochuan, China's central bank chief, raised the issue in an essay on the People's Bank of China web site. "The outbreak of the crisis and its spillover to the entire world reflect the inherent vulnerabilities and systemic risks in the existing international monetary system," he says. The Telegraph, calling the suggestion the "nuclear option," reports: [Mr. Zhou] added that the United States is “constantly” torn between achieving its domestic monetary policy goals and meeting the international demand for a reserve currency. Countries who issue a reserve currency 'either fail to adequately meet the demand of a growing global economy for liquidity as they try to ease inflation at home, or create excess liquidity in the global markets by overly stimulating domestic demand'. Mr Zhou’s essay comes days after the U.S. announced that it would buy back as much as $300 billion of Treasuries and $1 trillion of illiquid bank assets. Since the Federal Reserve is likely to print more money to finance the purchase of the Treasuries, it could weaken the dollar and further devalue China’s $1.95 trillion of foreign reserves. Earlier this month Wen Jiabao, the Chinese prime minister, said that he was "worried" about the safety of China's dollar assets, and urged the US to "stay a credible nation". “China is a hostage,” said Andy Xie, an independent economist in Shanghai, as Beijing officials promised to confront their US counterparts at the G20 meeting" in London next week. Bloomberg reports that China now has $740 billion in U.S. Treasuries. Beijing is the world's biggest holder of U.S. government debt. The Financial Times quoted Qu Hongbin, chief China economist for HSBC, saying: “This is a clear sign that China, as the largest holder of U.S. dollar financial assets, is concerned about the potential inflationary risk of the US Federal Reserve printing money.” |
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Posted: March 26 2009 at 12:03am |
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A New World Order is not approaching, a NWO is. On another post, we
were going over Russia's moves to set up a new 'NATO' only this NATO
focuses on Asia. The Europeans had their go of it trying to steal the
power base from the U.S. with the Euro and now by supporting China to
the tune of a 250,000,000,000 trade deficit, have them deposit 1.2
trillion dollars in a Chinese account start a NEW currency not
dollars, and the worst of it - the exodus of the U.S. work force off
shore into Asia and even our own companies setting up shop in China and
starting to sell to the Chinese.
What has already happened, has happened. The movement to set up the worlds manufacturing in South East Asia and India is already in high gear. You want to see the damage? Look at Detroit. 22% unemployment.. that is .. a Depression.. at least a local one. You can buy some houses there for $100 - the banks want them off their hands as a bed debt they are giving them away..fact. If we have learned nothing from history (and this one part is a little new - despite how advance a technology you have, how nasty of surveillance, or how rigorous the highly advvance torture techniques) hungry, unemployed people, who believed and clapped their hands and Tinker Bell did not come back to life, are not so easily calmed. Statments, we are doing better, playing with the numbers, is not going to erase the fact that people are still losing jobs. I saw 6 business hit the dirt in two blocks including ours. Is it a depresson when you lose your job - yea I would kinda say so. The military and national guard are running test drills to handle rioting Americans. Idle hands are violent ones. You might be able to handle to handle some looney toon cult leader with too many weapons, but you are going to have a real rough time as people lose their life savings, have their pensions and social security stomped into the dirts, they are cast out into the street from their pretty nice house and are homeless and hungry. One out of every 10 children going to school in Minneapolis is homeless and belongs to a homeless family. This not slum city. Tell you, I have been homeless and starving, without even a tent city, or dayly begging money. I was a millionaire and then I was standing in a food line and sleeping in a homeless shelter. Was I an alcoholic or a druggie or a criminal nope - Bad luck. Lying peole. Betrayal. Doesn't take much. Just somebody gets sick, or loses a job, or people divorce... or someone dies.. and knock on your door and is out in the street. People expect to be taken care of by .gov. They don't respond to the rhetoric, now you should work hard and save your money and pay your taxes. Guess what? They did. And they are still out in the street. Detroit the car manufacturing of the world got its tush kicked and people are hurting bad. It is is short step from sad to mad. With all of our brilliant minds and intelligence over the third world, we got shafted by those who we put our trust in - those controling the money, our security, our pensions, our 30 years of working and now - I didn't start the fire. I just write about those trying to put it out. In France - well let someone else documen that one.. some poor guy is trapped in his factory by his employees. There already is a New World Order. Most people just were never told when it happened. Medclinician |
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Posted: March 26 2009 at 8:46am |
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Med you have had an interesting life... I'd rather read a book about your life. Did I say that?
On this China currency business... Chinese business men are not embracing that as yet.
They are testing the waters in their own sphere for now, they have even said they are not
ready at this point... they need to get up and running, their insurance and So. Security.
At the moment they are working hard on a local level, tuning their judicial system.
They are expressing their worry. Hopefully the G-20 in April will clear the air.
The EU was founded in order to better compete... strength in numbers.
What is changing is... American citizens as commodity. We can no longer be counted on
to fill the coffers of Corporate America, OMG they stopped spending (we rung em dry)
They will need to be even more out there in the global arena.
That will entwine the world economies even more. At that point of enmeshment
The World Will Be To Big To Fail.
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