WHO estimates 2,000,000,000-may get Swine Flu

Yes, these numbers are about that we have always said: at least about 1/3 of the people will get it.

I think Dennis is close to the mark. I would even venture to say it could be much higher than 25%. Recently in Australia it was reported that some states were experiencing absenteeism in the workforce of around 10-15%.

"WHO estimates 2,000,000,000-may get Swine Flu"

Mary008 wrote: Joanne Silberner: Thanks.  And I hate to plague you with numbers but got to do it.  Follow-up on the 40% of Americans over the next two years.  That number, that's the number who may be affected in terms of they themselves are ill or people around them are ill and they're caretakers?  And the second question is earlier you said the attack rate in communities was 6% to 8% with this flu.  How does that compare to seasonal flu?  Anne Schu******: Okay.  The 40% figure that I gave was not about illness.  what I was trying to say was our planning assumptions for a severe pandemic were that at a certain period up to 40% of the workforce might be affected and not able to work either because they were ill or because they needed to stay home to care for an ill family member.  So a lot of that is the ill family member, not the worker themselves...   source http://www.cdc.gov/media/transcripts/2009/t090724.htm

Mary, I have been in communication with Albert and notice I am still alive here and still posting. Therefore- i.e. Albert must know something concerning my creds that cannot be put up. You and I, and many of the posters here are about to have a go of it, and it is a for the best interest of all go of it.

We are dialoging, its not personal, but it could get pretty heated.

Having talked to people in the governor's office in two states and also people drafting current flu plans and about to meet with others- what ever Anne said is off target.

We have done extensive research in how this plays out and I want to go over with you the scenario.

Basically it doesn't take a high path Pandemic second wave to nuke the infrastructure as we know it. And neither does it take one to blitz our work force. Despite the stars on the shoulders and letters past the names, the facts rule out versus the official persons giving out data. Forget the spagetti (who is an expert).

It is going to hit younger Americans and our mothers! Mother is going to stay home. We recently did a survey of how many working mothers will stay home to take care of little Johnny- it was 70% will stay home. This is not unlikely.

Now, consider what percent of a hit .gov offices can take and still funciton. Considering postal lag, backup on processing many mundane things now even with borderline staffing, you hit these people with 60% less workers- you are down.

I know for a fact in many departments people are doing the work of from 4-10 people. They are begging for reinforcements and be have budget cut after budget cut. You think they are going to get them?

Point after point- kids MUST STAY HOME- they are the number one carrier of the disease. They are walking petri plates. And it has been proven-if you need links I have them in every country where the kids stay home - they just did this in Yucatan to stop the possible second wave- it spreads less.

No question. No brainer. Kids spread flu. And many parents are oblivious to their kids sneezing all over and playing smoochie face with every relative other kids and even the cat or dog or pig if allowed.

You are going to wind up with a nation of over 60 per cent people and some babies and a big hit on the work force.

One MUST get this through the brain that these people standing up making statements are trying to soothe the masses.

I think the pretty earthy statement - don't scare the people on vacation is the desperate desire of merchants and the tourist trade to make that last dollar, not some humanist feeling for people to have fun. There is this obsession with letting everyone having their last party before the winter.

Well- rain on the parade MC. We need to be prepping.

Great for the 1% who are. Party. But some of us can't. I respect Albert resting because between he and I, Bluebird, and people you don't even know handles for yet are going to team up and go 24/7 on mountain dew and brownies in about 2 weeks if this stuff gets real real bad.

2 billion sick people- announced by WHO as possible- let that sink in. Do you think the virus is going ot be just staying the same strain as it mix and matches in 2 billion mixing vessels?

Probably not.

I know. Before I leave for California- I am still seeing it here in West Viriginia- if it ever stops raining- kids playing in the sun as ambulances are hauling away people sick to an ER which is packed.

Yesterday- do I live at the hospital- I have friends there in moderately prominent places- who tell me stuff. There are 3 local hospitals and of course very subtly Johnray is over in Bluefield manning the watch tower there. He is doing his M.D. thing- he is a regular doctor for those unaware. And we have more doctors on here than you might realize. Most do not post. This is a dangerous field to be vocal for doctors- or anyone who has a job working for .gov. They know stuff.

We are forever getting these blatant statements versus our statistics and hard numbers.
Its hitting the young. It will likely hit the kids and at least mommies are not going to work when their babies and kids are sick. They are going to stay home- for the most part. Daycare will be initially forbidden to take sick kids. It is a literally breeding ground for the flu in a pre-school.  You can't just keep them open because having a babysitting service is important - if you cause the flu to spread.

Please do feel free to comment. And please do give links. And although mainstream statement are what they are- there is spin. There is politics and there is damping the fire.

I should be at a rock concert today, and one I was asked to play at.  I am posting.

Medclincian