What I know is that when looking for substances to take to help against influenza, people will usually want to see some evidence that the substance actually has some effect on human beings who have got bird flu.

You cannot rubbish Tamiflu because there is some evidence that it didnt help the people with bird flu, if you cannot then offer a scientific study showing that silver DOES have some effect.

You can call my replies negative and pathetic all you like. We know the debate is over for you, its obvious that you are convinced that silver works. But Im not sure youve said anything that would convince anybody else of this. You certainly have not given me links to anything on the internet that even remotely proves silver has an effect on human beings infected with influenza.

as i said it is over as for you do the math,i dont have more time on yousorry elbows,read my above posts.............

if silver works,sure babe, silver lining,silver bullet ,those expressions are still here to remind you.........GOD IS PERFECT SO HE KEPT A WINDOW for you and other to see.and ,and this is a nice qustion for,you......explain to me please the death of 36000 deaths per year of flu in the states alone,if tamiflu works

Yes informed is the right word.  We had a WHL hockey player he make it into the NHL, and all of a sudden he was having leg cramps and other symptoms and had to step down, after a couple of years of testing they discovered that there was a silver mine up the creek from where  the water supply was for his parents ranch in Alberta. 
They now have him back playing in the NHL, Steve Passmore.  Greatest Goalie, super person.  Now my facts are just from memory, so don't write a book on it.  Just wanted to warn everyone.

Well, we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that sofas work, maybe you should be selling those instead.

 

Thank you, Elbows - Good Chase!!!!!

 

 

virusil-

It appears that there is a rather large credibility gap concerning your claims.  You talk the talk but you do not walk the walk.  Like a crooked accountant - figures lie and liers figure.

1.  Please post sites relative to your claims.  It would be nice to see some support other than your own self-evident villification.

2.  Please post copies of your last three years Canadian Income Tax forms.  I have the suspicion that you are worth-less than worth-more.  Financially speaking of course.

I, for one, would like to seperate the BS from the truth with you.  Anyone who puts themselves upon a pedestal better be able to show a solid foundation otherwise they are nothing more than 'Snake Oil Salesman'. and desereve to get knocked off.

I will give you that silver does indeed have bacteria-killing properties as the below articles back-up - but to claim that your product will save you from BF is a statement that needs proof  - otherwise you are despensing not only a possible bogus product - but also false hope.  The site you referred to (nanocid) seems to refer to industrial uses and not about personal ingestion and effects thereof.  A silver bullet it may be but without powder behind the charge it is nothing but a 'dud' when it comes to BF.

http://www.invive.com/pioneer.html

Pioneer's Use of Silver

How did they purify the water?

Pioneers trekking across this continent generations ago not only faced hostile Indians and many hardships, but also required sufficient safe drinking water. Heat, dust and unsanitary conditions such as a communal dipper, compounded the water purity problem. Using the discovery of ancient Greeks, the pioneers used silver and copper coins to keep the water potable.

In oaken casks hanging on the sides of the wagons they placed silver and copper coins. As the wagons rolled over the prairies, the water would slosh and move in the casks. This action caused the coins to release ions which killed bacteria. The silver coins discharged silver ions which killed bacteria and prevented future growth. The copper coins produced copper ions which killed and prevented the buildup of algae.

Thus on their long, slow journey these hearty people had a constant source of potable water.

In the late 1800's electrical impulses were added to copper and silver bars to enhance the effectiveness of ionization. It was in 1950 when ion purification was introduced to swimming pools. Thirty years of development and field testing has gone into this product.

One thing was certain. To keep pool water clean and in balance required a lot more than attaching a wire to two electrodes. A number of 'lab tested' ionization units appeared on the market and promptly disappeared or created so many problems that pool dealers and builders became gun shy and stayed away from ionization.

Today, ionic purifiers use two copper electrodes impregnated with silver. The electrodes are charged positive and negative. When a small milliamp current passes between the two bars, microscopic ions of silver and copper are discharged into the water. The silver ions kill bacteria and help prevent future bacteria growth, while the copper ions kill algae and prevent their growth.

Until recently, the major concern of pool builders was the excessive buildup of copper which in many cases resulted in "blueing" of plastered/mortised pool walls.

The new ionic purifiers are a result of today's technology. The past problems of ionization, the varied conditions of pools, the fluctuating water chemistry levels, the attentiveness of pool owners, all sorts of conditions went into massive computers. Consultations of top engineers in electronics, plating, water chemistry and manufacturing contributed in a coordinated effort lasting one year to debug ionization and produce a product that would not only live up to its standard but provide an excellent honest-to-goodness profit for dealers.

Owners of pools and spas can now bathe without the side effects of chlorine. No more red eyes, dry skin, hair damage or faded and sagging bathing suits. The family fun, exercise area just became a more healthier, fun, exercise area.

For more information about today's uses for silver.

Silver Protein and Lyme Disease Information.

And below article:

tp://www.xpressnet.com/bhealthy/WaterPurification.html

THE SILVER INSTITUTE LETTER

VOLUME III, Number 5, May 1973

SILVER CLEARS UP POLLUTED WATER

Russian scientists working on water recycling and purification problems
for the Soviet space ship and orbiting station program have decided on
silver as the best long-term sanitizing agent. Researching the problems
of water storage over periods of several months, as well as purification
for immediate use, they determined that ionized silver provides the
safest and longest lasting method of transforming polluted waste in
potable water.

A significant fact in support of their decision to use silver for
purification was their experimental confirmation of the absence of
toxicity in the silver treated water. In lengthy experiments on animals
they found that 100 parts and 200 parts of silver per billion in
drinking water does not accumulate in the organism and does not produce
any detrimental effect on the functioning of the organs or systems of
the experimental animals.
This was also confirmed by year long experiments on volunteer human
subjects. The concentration of silver used in these tests . . . 100
parts and 200 parts per billion . . . is in striking comparison with the
10 to 50 parts per billion of silver found in potable water and in
swimming pools treated by silver purification systems in the United
States.

The scientists, Drs.. S. V. Chizhov. S. P. Pak, N. N. Sitnikova and Y.
U. Koloskova. tried many methods of purifying regenerated water but all
except the silver system proved unsatisfactory over the long run.
Ultra-violet rays and ultra-high-frequency sound reduced micro-organisms
by as much as 97% but water thus treated failed to meet standards of
acceptibility if the water were stored for any considerable period of
time. Chlorine, which is widely used to kill bacteria, requires dosages
in thousands of parts per billion compared to the 100 ppb and 200 ppb
used in the Russian tests; the chlorine itself is a pollutant for
certain water uses and it often is dangerous to store or handle. In sum,
the Russians found silver to be the safest sterilizing agent, stable,
and long-lasting.

The research also showed that decontaminated water may change in
reaction to its container. They concluded that polyethylene containers
are suitable for the short-term storage of silver-ionized water. For
long-term storage of a few months or more, they decided it is better to
use a vessel made of polymers of the fluorine plastic group, or metal
containers of vitreous enameled aluminum alloy (for lightness in a space
ship).

Included among the many experiments conducted by Dr. Chizhov and his
associates were those designed to assay the purification of water
condensed from the atmosphere inside a simulated space vehicle. The
quantity of microorganisms in the regenerated water before the
introduction of the ionized silver varied from 200 to 1,900
microbiological parts per milliliter. Tests of the water made 15 to 20
minutes after contact with the ionized silver showed in most cases that
in this 15 to 20 minute period, full sterilization had occurred. In a
few cases, complete purity was achieved only after 30 to 40 minutes of
exposure. Study of controlled samples of the water after 24 to 72 hours
showed the continned and complete absence of microorganisms.

The Russians also suggested that the regeneration of water from the
byproducts of human activity seems feasible through the use of silver
ions as the decontamination agent. In this application they found it
desirable to introduce silver ions into the water with the aid of
various filtering materials in order to provide the slow dissolving of
the silver. Designing the filter and selecting the form in which silver
is introduced will allow engineers to establish any desired
concentration of silver ions in a given volume of water, they believe.

Post Mistake................

i tookmy day off for thinking

i have on stock just to cover the need in my province in quebec,idohave a nice installation,but not to cover the planet

what i can do,i suggest if someone got any idea about that