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Medclinician
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Posted: December 08 2009 at 6:39pm |
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How does one phrase this? Basically currently I cannot verify another wild story of bleeding mutant flu in Utah which echoes back to the Recombo outbreak chamber of dreams.
Thought I had snagged a really meaty one, bloody lungs, nasty bit of work, in a continuing repeater feed that keeps churning on the little jewel like 1918 mutation- but guess what? Despite the greatest of efforts- all the stories seem to beam me back Scotty to this one little data generator. No doubt there is Swine Flu in Utah. But once again although I have tracked this pesky virulent guy across Europe- we are starting to get bad information. It takes me back to the days of thousands of Egyptians infected with Avian Flu (possible) and bloggers listing long pages of Egyptian Avian wannabees only to find 4 real confirmed cases in the entire land of Egypt in 4 months. So as I try to verify this in Utah- source becomes a real problem. Here is the little clump of data mirrored in blogs and media A sample from a Utah swine flu patient has been analyzed, and shows the same H1N1 mutation found in Ukraine and other locations around the world. This mutation of the pandemic A H1N1 swine flu virus, the receptor binding domain change of D225G, is associated with lung hemorrhaging and resistance to the swine flu vaccine. Well, like the missing pizza pieces- look closer here. Which patient? Analyzed by whom? Who verified the match? So I jumped into Twitter land- http://www.examiner.com/x-29228-LA-Health-Technology-Examiner~y2009m12d6-Patient-in-Utah-has-swine-flu-virus-with-D225G-low-reactor-H1N1-mutation-causing-lung-hemorrhaging And sure enough (do excuse this Albert, but I am making a point) once again we find ourselves in the legendary land of the renegade Blackberry. We have a tail wagging many dogs. So as my mother once said- consider the source. D225G is becoming a crusader flag. This is not to say I have not documented this in Norway, Ukraine, and even in the U.S. but as we begin to look further into the U.S. let us do so with caution. Shocked everyone? Med the skeptic? Yep- I can tell when my chain is being yanked. Medclinician |
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"while my piano gently weeps":).
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Med..i do prefer to have lot"s of info coming my way...so i can filter and make my mind up about things that happen....than receiving only "governement verified info....
the latest pulmonary/pathologic findings indicate that mutation is indeed taking place..
as is expected from a virus...and indeed it doesn t look good.
keep up the good work...
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Med..........I found on my Utah newspaper search the patient was (f28) no other info was available.....must have been someone very important....D225G case death
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"mother nature has her moments"
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You're talking in riddles. Are you saying you think some of it is a hoax or not? Look at this post. I couldn't post it until it hit the news and I really didn't think I needed to post his here as the source is questionable. Read the Ukraine and helicopters spraying part and use your best judgement as Russia has some nasty ways of dealing with the flow of information. http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/2009/12/04/russia-blogger-arrested-for-pneumonic-plague-rumors/ This is a translation where people found spreading rumors will be caught and punished http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fecho.msk.ru%2Fnews%2F638602-echo.html&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate Here's a Sloppy Translation about the 22 year old rumor spreaders arrest. Saratov region. Criminal case for the fact of the propagation of rumors about the epidemic of plague is excited The actions of unknowns, which contributed to the appearance of panic, are qualified according to the article 207 [UK] “deliberately false communication about the act of terrorism”. The operatives of criminal search detained first that suspected - 22-year student of the medical university, which wrote about “disinfection” and plague in its [ZHZH]. The municipal administration of Saratov turned into the procuratorship with the request to verify the actions of the Internet- publications, which placed the news about the development of panic. http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.novayagazeta.ru%2Fnews%2F720074.html&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate |
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Actually I am trying to verify this and asking for our readers help.
I am targeting a phenomena I am seeing on the Internet and it is interfering with us getting accurate data. A single source-page-newspaper-person makes a broad statement such as follows- recently a scientific study revealed to us that X occurred. It can be nuzzled in an article even in mainstream media. As a scientist and researcher an eyebrow goes up because there is no substance to the statement. Which scientific study? Which researcher? What was the exact data- So I have picked this Utah incident to track and illustrate this phenomena. I found it on my engine(s) again this morning in another place. http://www.dowell-netherlands.com/2009/12/patient-in-utah-has-swine-flu-virus.html watch this closely- now click on read on link- this takes us right back to examiner which takes us right back to guess where - recombonom. and this makes me begin to question the page source. We get Prison Planet and Infowars stuff- and invariably at the base level- stuff starts falling apart. I certainly want to know if we have the mutation in Utah- and I can put another pin in my cyber map of where this mutation has hit in the United States. But- at the same time I am getting spin- and I mean it is more than a hundred links that the present Pandemic is a dud and will be one of the poorest preformers in terms of deaths in history. So users and readers- many contribute and research- It this from the creative labs of genetic pseudo science or is it the real deal? For the real deal note my posting this morning from Berkley which I communicate with on other scientific projects. As of this morning I am still looking for something solid in Utah- but I have found something from Berkely Med |
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Med, I don't know if you've tried this before. It can spider the web looking for Keywords and it will bypass any parameters you don't need. Its speed is dependent on your internet connection. I think you can still use it for free for 30 days. I had 20 dedicated servers running Inktomi before I was bought out but this was my favorite for hunting down things quickly.
Go to sleep and wake up with 1000's of times more data then you could do manually. http://www.dtsearch.com/download.html |
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Thanks. I will check it out. Still no takers on Utah though. I will see what I can find with that tool. Med |
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Med, I only spent few minutes on my laptop but www.dowell-netherlands.com looks like a feeder site. It was created to generate traffic to other domains. Stories are mirrored using different templates. Not that the original information is necessarily false but it gives more traffic and search engine exposure back to the site it feeds. Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. <---- Hide the Whois data. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd. St 160PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Domain Name:DOWELL-NETHERLANDS.COM <--------- Bogus name with to impress but nothing to do with the registrant or location. Created on: 06-Aug-08 <--------- New site with no history Administrative Contact: Private, Registration <--- Indicator that it's a feeder site. Try it without the WWW. <--- Dumb mistake showing it's a Google APP Feed http://dowell-netherlands.com/ Or try it with a bogus url and it's a -----> Blogger site Hit "next Blog" to see its Powered by Google APPS and it's running a script to generate content. http://www.dowell-netherlands.com/sdvdvdvdsvsdvsd There are 3752 other domains on the same server as dowell-netherlands.com server. It looks like Godaddy DNS and Host but rerouted to Google APPS as it falls into this IP 216.239.36.21 And that Falls into Google APPS IP range. OrgName: Google Inc. OrgID: GOGL Address: 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway City: Mountain View StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94043 Country: US NetRange: 216.239.32.0 - 216.239.63.255 That bounces back to Google Application Engine http://movetogae.blogspot.com/2008/08/setting-up-dns.html |
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Bluebird noticed it was phishing. I did download the engine you linked to-but the desktop version is also phishing on my files and storing hidden data. tsk tsk. The most efficient engines are used by FBI, CIA, law enforcement, and PIs. Google is notoriously pumped with tracking on the user, sending contents through multiports to collectors, and you might notice the way the notorious google trends is working is by spying on your searches. If it can spy on keywords for Avian and can spy on anything. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy on the net with Magic Lantern (I am using (not personally just quoting the name of ) a much dated app to preserve whatever) In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed in 2000 by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, the FBI released a series of unclassified documents relating to Carnivore, which included the "Enhanced Carnivore Project Plan". Sullivan's confidential source said that redacted portions of that document mention "Cyber Knight",
The name is no longer a name- it is a number and most of our email, surfing, and private information is no longer private. Search engine companies are protected against law suits for breach of privacy and from their invasive monitor through filters at key trunks (one near San Francisco) that watch mail packets. You are a good tracker but just by accessing system32 hiddens store and fetch- but TPTB can sack any system in a few minutes. The average user is oblivious to the fact they are cyber naked and are totally open port wise with firewalls being a joke. Those who work with the system do not have be concerned about being watched by the system. Since many of us are coders and have been for decades the world comm tracking is interesting yet take someone out of a rogue state flooding from a million mirrors in a DNS and you take out some of the sturdiest servers. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the U.S. in your life or on the net. Med |
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That was fun Tech. We should do that more often. We could work much more effectively in tandem. AFT is an interesting place. Its the stuff in the labs we have to worry about. These pathetic spreaders are not going to give you the bite of a prion or other especially bug.
I want to focus on the sequences and who is tweaking them where. Or at least where they are being dropped. I am glad you did a route about but this info mirror and collection and then piping it out floods. You realize the rogues can simply dump this stuff- we don't need nature- and in this case we have reeses pieces of an ET kind- of a spray. So little time, so much to know. You figures are accurate in terms of history- but that 1998 3 recombination has set us up. Black bloody lung is what I am keeping tabs on. You know the Sao Paolo was probably a spread increaser. We are at 6x in some variants for spreading. For those- and I'll be a lot more are following this pretty well-who find this a bit tedious- it is an honest effort to separate the people trying to get a reputation and the real data we need to know. Med |
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OK a real truce,
Captain Kirk and Spock on the same starship. Who's Who at any given moment doesn't matter. |
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Ditto. |
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When you ran that DTSearch program. It might phone home to check if it's registered but it's a clean engine. To many big corporations use it. You will get flooded with all the tricks hidden in each website you visit but they are not coming from DTSearch. It might look like its DTSearch but it's not. Run a Packet sniffer (Network Protocol Analyzer) look at each questionable packet and you'll see it's not from the DTSearch engine.
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You might think I'm glued to this site but I'm working on other stuff the entire time. I might have 20-30 programs running at the same time.
I just respond when I get an email notice to a subscribed thread. |
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Ahhh
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