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It's ok... we felt that way, last year
 
 
 
Germany Gets a Grip
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...He admits that the greatest problem affecting the markets is one of trust in the ability of the EU
 
 
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...the first European to land in North America (excluding Greenland), nearly five
 
hundred years before Christopher Columbus.[3]
 
 
 
Norway...
 

..extensive use of torture and long isolation periods followed by
summary trials and illegal corporal punishment

Isn't this how Iraq opperated?  before....
 
 
 
 
Norwegian protest over Iranian executions
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Posted on19 May 2010.

The Norwegian government has condemned the killings of five
Kurdish activists in an Iranian prison last week. Evin prison
in the capital city, Tehran put the men to death shortly before
the auspicious anniversary of the 2009 elections.
 
 
 
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 Typical Norwegian lowland landscape near the Trondheimsfjord
 
 
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No, it just reminds you of the ottoman Empire .
 
 
 
 Folks... ( EU ) Ya gotta take Turkey... cause 25 European leaders say so... ?
 
 
 

Turkey's Current...  shhhh ( kinda Islamic ) er  ..    Secular Government.
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Americans need to know the background
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The AKP ... A reformist faction (Turkish: yenilikçiler) inside the former

Islamist party, Fazilet Partisi (Virtue Party) founded the AKP.

... After the ban of Fazilet (Virtue Party )      by The Constitutional Court,

the reformist fraction in the Virtue Party including

 
Abdullah Gul ( Now President of Turkey )
 

and Bulent Arınç joined Recep Tayyip Erdogan ( Now Prime Minister of Turkey )
 

to found a new party.  ( AK, or AKP )
 
 
Recep Tayyip Erdogan became the leader, stating that
 

"AK Parti is not a political party with a religious axis", 
 

implying
 
 a break with the Islamist tradition. However,
 

critics accused it of harboring a hidden agenda.[3]

wikipedia
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It looks like this was taken from a Rosier Time? 
 

Before the rise of the present AKP  in Turkey?
 
 

Excerpts from-  The Pew Forum

Does "Muslim" Turkey Belong in "Christian" Europe?
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EVENT TRANSCRIPT     January 13, 2005
 
 
 
 
 
 
Talking Turkey
about Turkey and the EU.
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WORDS from article in green
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Are we thinking these are good reasons to add Turkey to the EU?
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issues of scale, i.e., the huge size of Turkey,

the population (which is very large),

the cost to the budget of joining the EU and

the voting weight that Turkey will have in the EU if it joins.
 
 
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Americans, ( Brits? ) do Not think of Turkey as European, sorry.
 
Someone here please correct me If I'm wrong.
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Europeans have accepted Turkey's European orientation.

And I was taught in school half a century ago that Turkey in

the 19th century was "the sick man of Europe." I mention that

only because it was just commonplace to think of Turkey as ( sick? )

European then and for a long time. So, it's nothing new to think
 
about Turkey as European.

...European leaders declared, all 25 of them, that Turkey is a
 
European state. So, that train has left the station.
 
 
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OMG.

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Now, as to geography,...
 
We shouldn't be stretching the frontiers of Europe, they say, into Asia.

But, since there isn't a precise definition of where Europe ends,

extending the frontiers of the EU to meet Syria, Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan,

Armenia - it's a great opportunity. It's an opportunity to

secure Europe's future in this most troubled set of regions.

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You have the first part right...  The EU shouldn't be stretching the

frontiers of Europe .. into Asia.
 
As far as it being an opportunity to secure Europe's future in

this most troubled set of regions, the words secure and troubled don't

belong together in that sentence.  

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...the capacity of the European Union to exert a force for good in that region,
 
projecting stability, security, and prosperity and reform.
 
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Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya
 
 
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...if Turkey makes the far-reaching political reforms, the painful

political reforms necessary to comply with all our political norms

and values in the EU, then we will open talks without delay.
 
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Turkey will make painful political reforms necessary
 
to comply with all EU political norms?

(Turkey will make? .. their religion allows them to make oaths and renege
to protect Islamic ambitions... please, don't be Quran ignorant. )

and....

We hear Turkey can't get past it's Human Rights Issues...  

( can't even handle women NOT wearing head scarves )

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Next in our list of identity issues is that of religion.

God and Jesus lost, despite the best efforts of the Vatican.

Europe is multi-denominational and it's home to every

known religion. As Luis said, we're officially secular, just like Turkey.

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OMG.
 
...we're officially secular, just like Turkey... ( they actually believe that... ? Turkey is
 
secular?  )
 

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It's not on the agenda to exclude a country on the grounds of religion.
 
 
 
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First on the Agenda would be to discuse,  what is a religion...

Tell me what religions include - Civil Law,  Absolute Rule,  Subjugation of women,  Our God say's

we must offer up our religion to you to adopt... before we do you in.    ( ask Bush about the 'letter.'  )

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Will the European Leaders desire for a strong trading partner Blind them

to all the mental/ social grief that will come with adopting Turkey?  

Imagine the Turkish people that will flee to European countries

flooding them... welfare city.... to get away from the rise of Islam in the

coming years, after Turkey gets in and then does whatever the heck it wants?
 
 
 
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File:Ak%20parti%20miting.jpg
 
 
 
A rally of the Justice and Development Party  ( AKP )   In 2007
 
 
 
 
 
The ELEPHANT in the Living Room is-
 
 
Erdogan's New Constitution ?
........................................................      ( ie. AKP Forever )
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OMG...  Erdogan's Government is STILL screaming about wanting Head Scarves For Women .
 
Is Turkey the Next Iran? 
 

( Notice what the AKP wants to Manipulate... )
 
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In March, the government finally announced that instead of rewriting a constitution,

it would opt for a smaller package of amendments. The amendments focused on

changing the composition of the constitutional court and supreme board of judges
(HSYK), dissolution of political parties, the decisions of the supreme military council
(YAS), and the prosecution of past coup perpetrators as well as the expansion
of certain civil liberties.   ( like head scarves ?  real liberating... )
 
 
(I don't call changing the composition of the constitutional court
and supreme board of judges,  ... small. )
 
 

dissolution of political parties...  

the decisions of the supreme military council...
 
the prosecution of past coup perpetrators...  
 
 
 
( Looks like a real wake up call here.)
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From-
 
 
Constitutional Amendments Further Polarize Turkish Politics
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Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 8 Issue: 87
May 5, 2010 05:39 PM
By: Saban Kardas
 
please Read in full here-
 
http://www.jamestown.org/regions/turkeytest/single/?no_cache=1&tx_
ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=36348&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=408&cHash=883cfc0f39
 
 
 
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Well looks like Turkey will be joining the Axes of Evil alliance. Russia, Iran, Syria and China
They will be challenging Israel in the Mediterranean Sea. European reaction is as always nonexistent and none threatening.
Israel has two options fight or back off. If Israel chooses to fight they will be responsible for a start of WWIII if they will back off then WWIII will start a year later.
The European reaction to the first try to breach the blockade was mostly negative, so the second try will be blooder and more dangerous, Israel will be accused of attaking the hospital ship and the peaceful aid convoy. I think the Iranians have the working A-bomb and this is the start of the Big Middle Ester war
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Did you see the Putinesque large as a 2 story building photo of ... looks like -Erdogan...  ( Turkey's Prime Minister )  in the upper left side of the photo above?    It's
 
indicative of... I wanna Be in Power til I die.  
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Well Muslims always wanted to speak with one voice and Turkey was once an Empire ruling all of the Middle East all of this fame is going to their heads, so if they can bully the Israelis they could make their own rules in the Mediterranean Sea we are going back in history 
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Muslims Majority in Europe Within 20 Years
 
 
 
 
 
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we all need to pray for world leaders to make the right decisions in this incredible time of trial....we are on the edge folks....so send these leaders, all leaders, the thoughts of wisdom and strenght...they need it.  Bless us all!
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European Union   wakes up to Turkey's new role
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Sunday, June 13, 2010
FULYA ÖZERKAN
ANKARA - Hürriyet Daily News
 
 

As debate flares over Turkey’s West-East orientation, the EU's foreign
ministers convene for their twice-annual meeting. Issues regarding the
Gaza flotilla, Iran's nuclear ambitions and Turkey's EU accession are
ikely to be raised as international observers criticize the bloc for its
treatment of the country and Turkish leaders slam doubts about its direction
 
 

Read article here-
 
 
 
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Looks Like the US Govt. Also Woke up to Turkey's New Role...
 
 
Erdogan    faces US stick, clings to anti-Israel stance
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DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
June 26, 2010, 2:44 PM (GMT+02:00)
 
 
 
 
As he took off for the G20 summit opening in Toronto Saturday, June 26,
 
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan
 
came under an exceptionally acerbic US rebuke for a NATO member.
 
 
 
 
Article here-
 
 
 
 
 
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See also >> Related News
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Trans-Adriatic Pipeline the cheapest, director says

 
Monday, June 28, 2010
BARCIN YINANC
ISTANBUL - Hurriyet Daily News
 

The Trans-Adriatic Pipeline, or TAP, project will be the cheapest and will have the fastest
completion process compared to other projects for carrying Caspian and Middle Eastern
gas to Europe, according to the external relations director of the project.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: 13 January 2010 at 10:31am
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nabucco_Gas_Pipeline-en.svg
File:Nabucco%20Gas%20Pipeline-en.svg
Nabucco Gas Pipeline
 
 
TURKEY IN THE MIDDLE
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The Nabucco pipeline is a planned natural gas pipeline

from Erzurum in Turkey to Baumgarten an der March in Austria

diversifying the current natural gas suppliers and delivery routes for Europe.

The pipeline attempts to lessen European dependence on Russian energy.[1][2]

Moreover, as per European Commission, Europe's gas consumption is expected to increase
 
 
from 502 billion cm, in 2005, to 815 billion cm in 2030

which would means Russia alone would not be able to meet the demand.[3] The project is
 
backed by several European Union states and the United States[4][5][6][7]

and is seen as rival to the planned Russian South Stream pipeline.[8][9]
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wikipedia
 
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Though Turkey's demands for 15% of the transited gas at discounted prices have not
 
been included in the agreement, they are likely to become a major sticking point in the
 
future, particularly if the EU continues to stifle Turkey's EU membership prospects.

 
 
 
 
 
Turkey, A Regional Player...
 
 
 

Turkey's Erdogan in Moscow on energy talks
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Published: Jan. 12, 2010 at 1:20 PM

MOSCOW, Jan. 12 (UPI) -- Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan arrived in Moscow on Tuesday to discuss energy ties with his former Cold War adversary.
 
 
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said last year that Moscow wanted to transport a significant portion of its gas to Europe through Turkish corridors, bypassing politically sensitive routes in Ukraine.
 
 
Putin met Erdogan in August, emerging with a Turkish agreement to host a portion of the South Stream gas pipeline to Europe in its territorial waters in the Black Sea.
Russia aims to diversify the regional energy sector with South Stream and its Nord Stream counterpart. Europe, for its part, looks to the Nabucco pipeline to secure its energy needs.
Ankara plays a role in Nabucco as well, hosting regional leaders in July for the signing of a milestone agreement in support of the project. Ankara insists Nabucco supplements South Stream, downplaying claims the two projects are rivals.
 
 
source
 
 
 
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South Stream pipeline
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...is a proposed gas pipeline to transport Russian natural gas to the Black Sea to Bulgaria and further to Italy and Austria. The project would partly replace the planned extension of Blue Stream from Turkey through Bulgaria and Serbia to Hungary and Austria, and is seen as rival to the planned Nabucco pipeline.[1][2] The completion is due by 2015.
 
wikipedia
 

Samuel Bailey (sam.bailus@gmail.com

 
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The European Union,  Is Too Hard To Get Into... 
 
 
If You Are Turkey 
 
 
( I think they just plain gave up... and went over to the Dark Side )
 
 
 
 

Turkish author imprisoned for characters in novel

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Wednesday, June 30, 2010
ISTANBUL - Hürriyet Daily News
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
and the MEN continue to squabble about women wearing scarfs ....    Wacko
 
 
 
 
 

Turkish opposition chief denies controversial headscarf remarks

 
 
 
Rather Dapper....  
 
 (headscarf Protester )
 
 
 AP photo
 
 
 
since 2008
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Turks wrapped up in head scarf furor

Defying protests by secular Turks, lawmakers voted Saturday to amend the constitution to allow women to wear Islamic head scarves at universities...

By Yesim Comert

Los Angeles Times

 
 
 
 
 
And the Big Worry back in 2007
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Secular Turks worry about Islamist PM becoming president

By Yesim Borg and Laura King

Los Angeles Times

 
"We don't want to lose secularism. He's going to destroy the secular regime,"
 
Muge Kaplan said of Erdogan. "We don't want to become Iran."
 
 
 
 
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Handling of the H1N1 pandemic: PACE calls for safeguards against "undue influence by vested interests"
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Article | 28 June 2010
 
excerpt-
 
PACE Resolution refers to industry profits based on erroneously interpretation of data
According to the Assembly, the handling of the pandemic by the World Health Organization (WHO), European
Union health agencies and national governments led to a "waste of large sums of public money, and unjustified
scares and fears about the health risks faced by the European public."

 
Article here-
 
 
 
 
 
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I said this at the Colorado CDC meeting, "Damned if you do and damned if you don't."

If this novel H1N1 had been deadly and the WHO and CDC had done nothing and millions died they would have hung all of the people in these organizations!!!!

I for one am glad they had a trial run because if a truly deadly Flu comes along we know what can be done.

Dang, short sighted people who have 20/20 hind sight are really dumb IMHO.
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U.S. and Poland okay missile shield

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U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton witnesses in Poland the signing of a revised missile shield agreement between the two

VIDEO
 
 
 
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"...The British government is under fire at home over the rising number of fatalities in Afghanistan."
 
 
 
 
 

UK troops forced to pull out: Taliban
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Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:01:10 GMT
 
 
The reclusive leader of the Taliban has taken credit
for a plan by British troops to pull out from a troubled southern district in Afghanistan,
saying they were forced to withdraw by the militants.
 
 
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Turkey wishes to protect children from obscene books.
 
 
Put series of books banned in Turkey back on shelves, panel says
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Wednesday, July 7, 2010
ISTANBUL - Daily News with Radikal
 

The design and covers of the books do not include any elements that would appeal to children
and the works are displayed in the “World Literature” sections of bookstores, said Er, adding
that children would not be exposed to the books without adult supervision.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
( Turkey will be in this section ...as Turkey wishes to join the EU....  )
 
 
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3 British Muslims Convicted in Foiled Trans-Atlantic  Bomb Plot
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Published July 08, 2010
Associated Press
 
 
 
 
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Turk-made minarets rise    in European cities
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Friday, July 16, 2010
 
SAKARYA - Anatolia News Agency
 
 
 
 
 
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Worlds away from EU Membership....
 
 
 
 
 "There are officials working in the region who have not accepted the equality of men and women."
 
from-
 
 
Turkish woman beaten after court removes Order
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Monday, July 19, 2010
ISTANBUL – Daily News with wires
 
 
 
 
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Will Caroline Spelman     wear a full-body veil ( burqa ) in 90 degree heat?
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Environment secretary Caroline Spelman said

women were "empowered" by the freedom to wear the face coverings.

 

 


British minister: Veil empowers women
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LONDON: As debate intensifies across Europe on banning the

Islamic full-body veil at public places,

a British minister has defended a Muslim woman's right to wear the burqa and says it is empowering.


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Islamification of           Great Britain
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Islamists who want to destroy the state get  £100,000 funding
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Accounts filed at the Charity Commission show that the Government paid a total of
 
£113,411 last year to a foundation run by senior members and activists of Hizb ut-Tahrir -
 
a notorious Islamic extremist group that ministers promised to ban.
 
 
 
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Very Basic-
 
 
Islam does NOT believe in  separation of Church and State
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Radical Islam      in Europe: UK and Germany
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Transatlantic Institute
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VIDEO
 
 
 
 
 
It would be difficult to ignore... Sharia Law... Ask Britain.
 
 
Within 20 Years Muslims Will become the Majority in Europe
 
 
MOOhammad1 | July 30, 2008

Egyptian Muslim Preacher 'Amr Khaled: Within 20 Years Muslims Will become the Majority in Europe; Enemies of Islam Want to Drive 30 Million Muslims out of Europe


"We really need ten years for the Muslims in Europe to become firmly established and very successful."

 
 

 
 
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Born in Belgium to a large Moroccan family, Karima was forced to wear the veil from the time
 
she was nine. "They ended up sewing it to my hair," she confides. Treated like a maid by her
 
family, she was cloistered, mistreated and forcibly married in Morocco; an existence she
 
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for the girls and women who face the same ordeals.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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German politician praises leader of main Turkish opposition party
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From The Times
March 14, 2008

 

Schools fear that forced marriages poster campaign will upset parents

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Richard Ford, Home Correspondent
 
 
 
 
Schools in areas feared to have high rates of forced marriage are refusing to display posters on the issue because they are too hard-hitting, according to a government report.
 
 
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So... is   ISLAM now so fearsom in Europe... that any talk against ISLAM is considered a
 
threat to National Security?   (OMG )
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Check it out...
 
 
 
 
And make no mistake: even though the Muslims in the Netherlands and elsewhere in the
 
West present themselves as embattled victims of racism and "Islamophobia," that is
 
exactly what is going on here: this is just one part of the 57-government Organization
 
of the Islamic Conference's efforts to silence speech that they deem critical of Islam --
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Outrage:   Dutch court to prosecute Wilders for Fitna
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Germany Will Become Islamic State, Says Chancellor Merkel

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Family Security Matters 22 September 2010
By Paul Williams, PhD

Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Germans have failed to grasp how Muslim immigration has transformed their country and will have to come to terms with more mosques than churches throughout the countryside, according to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung daily.

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EURO PE
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Radical Islam... Is A Real Problem... Now
 
 
Burqa Ban
Is it a Trend in Europe?
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Why The Ban?
Check it out...
 
 
 

Radical Muslims In Belgium (Scary)
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Belgium law Means nothing ...  But don't say it out loud.

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Australia to ban the burqa? - MP defends burka ban legislation
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VIDEO
 
 
 
 
 
Interesting video...
 
Extremist movement in Catalonia, Spain...  Powerful Imamas
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It is always within Islam... It will be the same for my daughter... within Islam
 
 
 
 
 
Towards a burqa ban in Spain?
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Turkey: Turkish opposition CHP shoots itself in foot on headscarf issue
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12-09-2010
By PULE KULU
Istanbul, (Today's Zaman):
The main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), once the staunch defender of Turkey’s ongoing headscarf ban, has recently been sending signals that it will work to settle the headscarf issue -– despite failing to convince many people of its sincerity.
 
 
 
 
 
Uproar in Canada over face-veil ban
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Italy: 'Burqa ban' debate back in spotlight
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22-09-2010

Rome, (ANSA): National debate over a 'burqa ban' was back in the spotlight on Tuesday following an official request for the Senate to discuss the security implications of Islamic face coverings.
 
 

Belgium approves Islamic veil ban
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An Education in Cultural Borders...
 
 
 
 
Mr. Rose Doesn't speak for America...
 
 
Nicolas Sarkozy Talks With   Charlie Rose
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From ENGLAND
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What should we welcome?
 
The All Important Sharia Law?
 
WHAT? 
 
 (  If you understand the speech below...  speak up.  )
 
 
 
 

Baroness Emma Nicholson   on Iran
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Sounded like 2 or 3 people clapped for this speech...
 
 
 
Baroness Emma Nicholson on Situation in Iran
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...we should be having dialog on cultural issues...
 
 

...one critical item we should discuss...this so called barrier between Islam and a democracy. 
 
 

Prehaps it hasn't been noticed that the the Islamic ah, Republic of Iran believes that she has cracked that particular dificulty and that her form of ah, democracy is fully comprehensible with the

Islamic republic of Iran's version of Islam, the All Important Sharia Law, and the shiite islamic tradition.  I think this is again somthing we should welcome, and should discuss this very year...
 
 
 
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Emma Harriet Nicholson, Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne
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...a former Liberal Democrat Member of the European Parliament for South East England.
 
On 9 May 1987, Nicholson married Sir Michael Harris Caine, with whom she had a foster son, who
 
was from Iraq.[10]
 
She became a widow in 1999.
 
She has been appointed a member of the Prize Committee of (Saudi ) AGFUND ...
 
(Saudi ) AGFUND
 
 In February 2010 she founded the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) for Business Development
 
in Iraq and the Regions and currently serves as its Chair.[5]
 
She is a board member of ...the American Islamic Congress and a member of the Board of Advisors
 
for the New York University Center for Dialogues, Islamic World - U.S. - The West.[9] ... and is
 
Honorary Advisor to the Prime Minister and Government of Iraq on Public Health and related issues.

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French news...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bin Laden In New Tape Blasts France Burqa Ban & Afghan War
 
 
 
 
 
She Must cover herself....
 
 
 
Burqa Niqab Veil Ban: Belgium France Italy Europe
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Danger...    when   ONE   culture in the MULTIculture    ...... Takes Over....
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For centuries the people of europe have retained seperate states of various cultural flavors,
 
creating the joy of travel through Europe.
 
 
Imagine any one of our states...  being overtaken in a mere 40 yrs ... by Islam?

We are not talking about an unusual food or a different accent.

We are talking about a new form of society/politics/Law   setting up shop within....

A state within a state.

Talk about standing out like a sore thumb...  a screaming, demanding of it's rights sore thumb.

Not willing to "fit in"

Realizing your "State" will never be the same again...

Not unusual to feel German Chancellor Angela Merkel's pain....

That the stark realization of attempts to build a multicultural society in Germany
 
has "utterly failed"

Even so she says, demand for integration is a key task... and it must be a German trademark
 
to be a country that gives people there an opportunity.
 
Very generous.

So Look for Germany to expect integration of the 2 out of 3 children under 5.
 
Expected to speak German and fit into the culture.

(Allegiance-  a duty of fidelity said to be owed by a subject or a citizen to his/her state )

So, bring out secular Santa, Valentines Day, the Easter Bunny, Halloween, something Patriotic,

something like Thanksgiving, Sports Teams,
 
AND
 
(I pledge allegiance to The German Flag )

Hey, it works in the USA.
 
 
 

Note in Yellow, the percieved combined circumstancial errors of government, that lead to the
dangerous cultural imbalance, ratio of native Germans to immigrants.
 
 
 
 

Frederick The Great  :/       ...even if Turks and heathens came ...
 
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In 1740 Frederick The Great stated (in the context of affirming the toleration of Catholics) that "All religions are just as good as each other, as long as the people who practice them are honest, and even if Turks and heathens came and wanted to populate this country, then we would build mosques and temples for them".[15]

In practice, already the first contingent of Turkish guardsmen had been given the use of a prayer room on Sundays. It soon became necessary to establish a Turkish/Muslim cemetery in Berlin, in which a mosque was finally built in 1866.[16]
 

Diplomatic relations were established between Berlin and Constantinople (today's Istanbul) in the 18th century, and by the 19th century trading treaties were set up between the two cities. These developments encouraged the crossover of citizens between the Ottoman and German states.[17]
 
As a consequence to these developments, the Turkish community in Germany, and particularly in Berlin, grew significantly in the years before the First World War.[18]
 
 

Immigration to Germany
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The large-scale of immigration of Turkish workers from the beginning of the 1960s
 
was on the one hand, due to the high population growth and mass unemployment
 
within Turkey, and on the other, due to the demand for labour in north-west Europe.[20]

 
 
...In 1961, the construction of the Berlin Wall exacerbated West Germany’s labour crisis by restricting the flow of immigrants from East Germany, and that same year Turkey's first recruitment agreement was signed.[23]
 
Pressure from German employers in 1962 and 1963 played a key role in ending the two-year limit on the period for which Turkish workers were permitted to stay in West Germany.[24]
 
In 1961, a total of 7,116 Turks migrated to Germany to become workers.[25]
 
The recruitment treaty in 1961 made Germany the prime host country for Turkish guest workers ...
 
[edit] Family reunification

...between 1974–1988, the number of Turks in Germany nearly doubled, acquiring a normalised sex ratio and a much younger age profile than the German population because of the larger numbers of children per family.
 
 
By 1987, 21% of ethnic Germans were under the age of 21, compared to 42% of the Turks in Germany.[30]
 
 
...granted most work visas to women.

This was in part because labour shortages continued in low paying, low-status service jobs such as electronics, textiles, and garment work; and in part to further the goal of family reunification.[31]
 

... increasing numbers of second-generation Turks have opted for German citizenship and are becoming more involved in the political process.[35]
 
 
 
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Saudi Extreme Islam -  is ok in UK
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...Education Minister Michael Gove told the BBC programme: "I have no desire or wish to intervene
in the decisions that the Saudi government makes in its own education system.
 
22 November 2010
 
 
 

British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments
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The schools are part of the "Saudi Students Clubs and Schools in the UK and Ireland" organisation.
 
...The BBC investigation claimed that one school in London is owned by the Saudi government.
 
 
 
 
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Does Turkey really want to be an EU member?
 
 
 
 
 

Turkey: Could a Caliphate Make a Comeback?
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December 3, 2010 - 1:42pm, by Nicholas Birch
 
 
 
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As I mentioned yesterday ... Europe is rethinking immigration...
 
 
 
 
Britain Immigration Quota Announced
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LONDON - Britain will impose a tough annual limit on the number of non-Europeans allowed
 
to work in the U.K. and slash visas for overseas students as it seeks to dramatically reduce
 
immigration, the government said Tuesday.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

...7,549 newborns ( in Britain ) given the name last year.
 
 
 
Mohammed, Britain's Most Popular Boy's Name In 2009
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A Lot has Changed since 1997
...................................................     A fact of life
 
 
Commission on British Muslims and Islamophobia  ( bought into Muslims as Victims. )
Islamophobia: A Challenge for Us All,

was launched in November 1997
 
by the Home Secretary, Jack Straw.
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From The Times
October 7, 2006
 

I would prefer women not to wear the veil at all, says Straw
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By Anthony Browne,
Chief Political Correspondent
 
 
JACK STRAW increased tensions with sections of Britain’s Muslim community over use of the Islamic veil yesterday by declaring his opposition to women wearing them at all.
 

The Leader of the Commons faced anger from Muslim groups, but won backing from, among others, the Prime Minister, a bishop and a Muslim peer.
 

Mr Straw, the MP for Blackburn, where one in five of his constituents is Muslim, toured broadcasting studios setting out his concerns that the growing use of veils that cover the face was damaging community relations.
 
 
He had disclosed in a Lancashire newspaper that he had been asking constituents if they would mind removing the niqab covering their faces during meetings, so that he might see their facial expressions. He defended the right of Muslim women to wear a headscarf.
 
 
Yesterday, asked by BBC radio if he would in general prefer women not to wear veils, he said: "Yes. I’m not talking about being prescriptive but with all the caveats, yes, I would rather."
 
 
He insisted that he was opposed to the veil being banned by law, but said that it was a visible sign of difference that was "bound to make better, positive relations between the two communities more difficult".
 
 
"Communities are bound together partly by informal, chance relations between strangers, people being able to acknowledge each other in the street or being able to pass the time of day," he said. "That is made more difficult if people are wearing a veil. That is just a fact of life."
 
 

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5 Years Later... is it any better?
 
 
IN 2005
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Muslim girls in Austria fighting forced marriages

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Program for women helps them escape from family pressures, unwanted weddings -- and violence

Eric Geiger, Chronicle Foreign Service

Sunday, December 4, 2005

 
 
 
 
 
In 2010
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Germany hopes to make forced marriage a crime
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October 27, 2010
By KIRSTEN GRIESHABER, Associated Press

2010-10-27 06:07:00 PDT
 
 
 Berlin, , Germany - (10-27) 06:07 PDT BERLIN, Germany (AP) --
 
 
Germany's government on Wednesday proposed criminalizing forced marriage, a tradition
 
that some Muslim immigrant families impose on their children, even ones who were raised
 
in Germany's more liberal society.
 
 
 
Chancellor Angela Merkel's Cabinet agreed to a proposed law that would make forced
 
marriage in Germany a crime that can be punished with up to five years in prison.
 
 
 
The legislation still needs to pass parliament.
 
 
"Forced marriages are a serious problem in Germany," Interior Minister Thomas de
 
Maiziere said, adding that by criminalizing them Germany would make clear that this is
 
no longer "a tradition from olden times or different cultures that is ... tolerable."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Unholy Matrimony : escape from Forced Marriage
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Film examines Forced Marriages in Pakistan, by telling the story of Zahida Minhas, a 16-year old girl who is 9months pregnant and living in a safe house. In this extremely traditional society, Zahida was sold into a forced marriage by her mother. As Zahida's delivery date rapidly approaches, she fears that her "husband" will find and kill her, while her mother, threatens to take the baby. Shot on location in Islamabad, The North West Frontier of Pakistan and Kashmir, this emotional film exposes the reality of forced marriages and the young women affected by it.

 
 
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Germany
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forced marriage in Germany
 
 
 
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 Schools urged to spot girls at risk of forced marriage
 
 
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Europe far right courts Israel    in anti-Islam drive
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Latest update 17:43 20.12.10
 
By Reuters
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excerpt-
 
..."Our culture is based on Christianity, Judaism and humanism and (the Israelis) are
 
fighting our fight," Wilders told Reuters in Amsterdam last week. "If Jerusalem falls,
 
Amsterdam and New York will be next."
 
 
 
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