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The former Polish National Church @ 182 Sobieski Street, Buffalo NY
New Domes on Darul Uloom Al Madania - Masjid Zakariya
July 7th, 2009 | By Christopher Byrd
..............................Islamic Jihad Training in America?By Douglas J. Hagmann Monday, May 22, 2006Date of Report: May 27, 2005 Nearly four years after the attacks of 9/11, many Americans appear to be growing weary of terror alerts and the ever-clanging bell of possible terror strikes within the U.S. Many otherwise sensible and astute Americans are beginning to openly question not only the effectiveness of our sworn enemy who stuck us on 9/11 and numerous times previous, but their future intentions as well. The dynamics of the asymmetrical warfare in which we are engaged are numerous, and the causes of the general malaise regarding terrorism sweeping across America are equally abundant. This report does not intend to address either aspect of these perilous inclinations, but will be a primer that will effectively illustrate that the United States has been and continues to serve as a training ground for future attacks within this country.
In America, we are granted the ability to practice freedom of religion, although that freedom does not permit anyone or any group of individuals, under the guise of religious freedom, to exploit our laws to create, organize, finance and build a group whose ideology is to attack and destroy the very freedoms and country they currently enjoy. For example, a religious organization is freely able to build and operate a faith-based school in America as long as that school conforms to a liberal set of laws and standards that govern such activity. On the other hand, one cannot operate a religious school whose stated objectives include the overthrow of our government. But what happens when the curriculum of a school consists of a religious doctrine that clearly states that the tenets of their religion and democracy are clearly incompatible and cannot peacefully coexist? In an effort to appease what has become known as "moderate Islam," our government and media have created an environment of confusion that is being exploited by the same people who adhere to the ideology of the 19 terrorists who attacked our country on September 11, 2001. They have bent over backwards to keep religious freedom free, only to become enablers of our enemy within. This environment of social and political correctness run amok has caused many to turn a blind eye to what is actually taking place in this country, or worse, labeling those who dare question certain activities as intolerant or "Islamophobic." To understand that the war against terrorism is religious in its roots and ideology, and to recognize that there are individuals and groups of people in this country who are exploiting our religious freedoms and sensitivity to intolerance to promote the tenets of Islamic fundamentalism, is to begin to understand the nature of our enemy. In that spirit and with that understanding, this report is provided as a mere introduction into what is currently taking place inside the United States by those who are outspokenly on record as being our enemy. Americans must wake from their slumber and realize that aid and assistance is being supplied not just by terrorists abroad, but by those already living and working among us. AN "ISLAMIC ARMY" IN OUR MIDSTDaniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum and a columnist for both the New York Post and The Jerusalem Post, wrote about the "Beltway Sniper" incident in October 2002 that left ten people dead and near paralyzed an area of our country with fear. Writing for the Internet site www.CapMag.com , Mr. Pipes cited a quote reportedly made by a friend of the senior sniper John Muhammad, saying that the attacks on 9/11 "should have happened a long time ago." It was further suggested that "Muhammad might have seen himself as a foot soldier in the jihad (holy war) against the United States, and that he took up arms to terrorize Americans." During a time when everyone was questioning the motivation behind Muhammad and Malvo, the media and government officials clearly avoided citing any reason or explanation that had any connection to Islamic terrorism, training or ideology, and the possibility that the sniper incident could be related to religious ideology was quickly dismissed. The term "deranged" was most used to describe the snipers, again dismissing any connection to Islam and making the case of Muhammad's conversion to Islam irrelevant. Accordingly, no reasonable person would even suggest that either man could have seen himself a warrior in jihad--a term that seems to have more definitions today than a lyric in a rap song. Mr. Pipes wrote: "…That Islam is engaged in a titanic battle with the United States, the outcome of which will determine the world's future, is a central idea among Islamists. Significantly, this idea has no parallel among Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or adherents of any other religion; its closest parallel would be the views of fascists and communists in decades past." The expectation of a cosmic Islamic-American confrontation is a leading theme of all the strains of militant Islam, including bin Ladenism, Wahhabism and Khomeinism. It is present no less in America than in the wilds of Afghanistan or the shopping malls of Saudi Arabia…" He then noted arrests of American Muslims engaged in the establishment of training camps in the U.S., including the indictment of James UJAAMA of Seattle, Washington. Perhaps most importantly, however, was the reference to the terror cell in Lackawanna, NY, where information was revealed in a U.S. government affidavit that "two of the six Muslims arrested possessed audiotapes calling for jihad and martyrdom, one of which appealed for "fighting the West and invading Europe and America with Islam." It was also reported that Islamists in Pakistan, according to Arnaud de Borchgrave, expect that "in the next 10 years, Americans will wake up to the existence of an Islamic army in their midst--an army of jihadis who will force America to abandon imperialism and listen to the voice of Allah." MILITANT JIHAD TRAINING - OR JUST RELIGIOUS TRAINING?Requests to Investigate In late 2003 and early 2004, the Northeast Intelligence Network received several e-mails urging us to look into the activities at a large, fortress-style building located within the city of Buffalo, New York said to be owned by the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). We were informed that the complex of buildings located at 485 Best Street, Buffalo, NY was at the center of controversy when, just two months after the 2001 attacks against the U.S. by Islamic fundamentalists, that building was reportedly purchased by the Islamic Society of North America through a local imam of the Darul Uloom Al Madania mosque, Imam Mohammad Ismail Memon. Local residents and some city officials expressed concern over the intended use of the complex of buildings, which was formerly a detention center with "high walls and tight security." We were informed that public meetings between city officials, representatives of the future Islamic school and the public were conducted, but concluded without any important questions being answered to the satisfaction of many of those present. In the wake of the attacks in 2001 and based on the proximity of the "Lackawanna Six," or the six Yemeni men arrested and indicted in 2002 for providing material support for a terrorist organization, concerns were understandably high and we felt the request had merit. Our findings, in part, are outlined within this report. Whether the complex at 485 Best Street, Buffalo, NY and associated facilities are being used as represented by the owners, we will allow the readers of this report to draw their own conclusions--we will merely present the facts as developed through our independent research and investigation. INVESTIGATION 485 BEST STREET, BUFFALO, NY"I have sources--inside sources. These people at Best are armed and dangerous. They are doing paramilitary training there." --Buffalo Common Council Member Charley Fisher Islamic Training Facility: 485 Best Street, Buffalo, NY © 2004 Northeast Intelligence Network From the outside, it looks like some type of older prison or fortress where there are 10-foot high, concrete block walls surrounding a number of stone-built buildings encompassing an entire city block between Timon and Best Streets in an inner city neighborhood in Buffalo, New York. The framework for razor wire is noted on the top of the walls surrounding this "compound," and entry into the compound is limited to three gated areas--one larger gate for vehicles, while two other gates are more restrictive. Guard shacks, security cameras, portions of razor wire continue to be present on the property. The six-acre property at 485 Best Street, Buffalo, NY began as a Catholic convent in 1855 and was sold in 1968, becoming the state Division for Youth's "youth detention center and drug treatment facility." After the state of New York left the facility, it remained unoccupied until November 2001 when the Institute of Higher Islamic Education purchased the building under the direction of Imam Ibrahim (Mohammad) Memon, secretary of that organization. Memon, who operates a similar school on nearby Sobieski Street, said (his) school is certified by the state of New York and enrolls students who are legal residents of Canada or the United States, although many are not citizens. Nearly a year after the property was purchased by Memon and the Institute of Higher Islamic Education, more than 100 "hostile" residents (as described by The Buffalo News) "interrogated Memon" on his actual plans for the facility in a meeting arranged by Ellicott Council member Brian C. Davis between Memon and area residents1 . During that meeting on Wednesday, September 25th, 2002, Memon said his Muslim community plans to spend "hundreds of thousands of dollars" to turn the Best Street property into a boarding school, starting with 50 boys in grades 4 to 10. Based on a search of news reports and interviews conducted by Northeast Intelligence Network investigators, some area residents seemed less than convinced about Memon's intentions. At the meeting in 2002, area resident Reverend Gregory Washington, pastor of Church of God Tabernacle was duly concerned about Memon's intentions and the wall surrounding the compound. Washington stated: "That's a fortress at Timon and Best. There's a reason we are concerned about the wall. No matter how much we try, we're still under the air of 9/11. We're not for racial profiling, but we shouldn't be stupid, either. We need to be able to see into your property. It's no longer a prison. There's no better reason for that wall to come down.2 " In response to the questions about the high wall surrounding the facility, Memon was vague in his responses, indicating that he would "check with the board about the wall." At the same meeting, one woman asked of Memon: "Are you breeding children so they can be born here?" Based on a review of an archived article from The Buffalo News dated September 26, 2002, the woman never received an answer. Rather, she was "scolded" by 23 year-old Shabeed ALI, a Black Muslim and attendee of the school for asking such an inciting question. According to a review of archives from The Buffalo News, that meeting ended without much of a resolution, and many people left in frustration for not receiving direct answers to the questions they posed. On Wednesday, March 12th, 2003, about six-months following the first meeting between Memon and area residents, another public meeting was held so that residents could pose additional questions. It is interesting to note, however, that "fewer than a dozen residents turned out (for that meeting).3 " Based on a review of archived news reports by Northeast Intelligence Network investigators Hagmann and Calahan, it does not appear that many questions were adequately answered at that latter meeting. In a letter from the Community Action Information Center, Inc. to Mr. Brian Higgins, Inspector for the city of Buffalo dated March 25, 2003 and obtained by the Northeast Intelligence Network, Rosa Gibson, President of the center expressed her dissatisfaction with the meeting and her concerns for the intended use of the complex. Gibson wrote (excerpted): "First, many of us were very disappointed with the meeting on 485 Best Street. While attendance was lower than expected, nevertheless, residents are not satisfied with the lack of forthcoming information. There is a lack of credibility as to what the site is going to finally wind up being used for." "I do not believe that there is any malicious intent towards this site and its owners, but we are concerned as to its intended us [sic] for a school, now and in the future. There are many unanswered questions and the unavailability of plans and a blueprint for the site obscures credibility." Investigation of Ownership Research and investigation determined and confirmed that the property located at 485 Best Street, Buffalo, NY is owned by the Islamic Society of America. The mailing address for ownership, however, is listed as 182 Sobieski Street, Buffalo, NY 14212. 4 Investigation found that address to be the Masjid Zakariya, a former church property purchased in 1993 by Darul Uloom Al Madania, an Islamic religious and educational organization founded by Mohammad Ibrahim Memon. According to their website, Mohammad Ibrahim Memon is the President and Principal5 . It is relevant to note that the Islamic mosque at 182 Sobieski Street, Buffalo, NY was completely destroyed by a fire on 22 October 2001 that was accidentally started by a plumber's torch. The mosque reopened in October 2004 after a restoration costing more than $1 million.6 Memon is also the imam of the Masjid Zakariya. Inspection of 485 Best Street The following map provides a general overview of the location of the Islamic training facility located at 485 Best Street, Buffalo, NY. In addition to the high walls and tight security, Northeast Intelligence Network investigators confirmed the existence of underground tunnels or bunker-style rooms below the facility through a source within city hall. These underground areas are lined with several feet of hard-packed glacial till and other composite material that can be used for a number of interesting and diverse purposes.
Mohammad Ibrahim Memon a/k/a Mohammed I Memon Memon, whose physician father emigrated from India, said the Institute of Higher Islamic Education will restore the two main buildings on Best Street as offices and a reception area before turning other buildings into classrooms and dormitories. He also added that a Mosque will also be built within the walled property. Northeast Intelligence Network investigators found no other significant information offered by Imam Ibrahim (Mohammad) Memon to the public in any public venue. The issue pertaining to the high concrete wall surrounding the property was only peripherally addressed, with Memon stating that "an appropriate matching fence will be added in the final phase." Covert Surveillance Findings Investigation and covert surveillance was performed by the Northeast Intelligence Network over the last several months at this facility. Due to the high wall surrounding the compound, active security cameras affixed to the top of light poles within the property, and "spotters" (individuals living in the area, owned by associates of Memon and the Institute of Higher Islamic Education who act as look-outs for unusual activity in the area), normal covert surveillance operations were difficult at best. Accordingly, surveillance was strategically scheduled and conducted in short segments, limiting such operations to time periods when activity was visible from publicly accessible vantage positions (e.g. walking past the front gate on the sidewalk). Summary of Observations Although activity has been documented at various times over the past six months, investigators were ultimately presented with the opportunity to secure limited digital still images and brief videotape clips on Saturday, 25 September 2004 of activity that could be described as "unusual." Between 1500 and 1600 hours ET on this date, Northeast Intelligence Network investigators noted that several adult males--all appearing to be Black or of Middle Eastern origin, were instructing at least two groups of young males. The males appeared to be between 10-18 years-old and upon closer inspection, appeared to be separated into two groups. All appeared to be attired in normal "street clothes," although some of the older males were wearing various types of hats or head coverings. The larger group of young males of approximately 15-20 appeared to be engaged in an adult-supervised game of roller-blade hockey. This activity was taking place in the area most easily visible from the street as one would be able to look through the chain-link fence. In other words, should someone be walking past the fence, that person would see a group of young men playing hockey. What is most interesting, however, is that a second group of six-(6) young males were in a more remote and less visible area of the compound, although still visible from a publicly accessible vantage position. Direct observation of this group found two older males--one standing on the ground near the side of one of the interior buildings, and the other standing on the roof of the same structure--appearing to "instruct" the group of six young men on how to scale or climb the wall of the building. The following images are digital copies taken from the surveillance video: The above images, copied from the videotape taken on the same date, were taken by Northeast Intelligence Network director Douglas Hagmann. As noted above, the images show two of six young men climbing from ground level to the roof of a building inside of the compound. Due to the angle the image was secured and other factors, the adults giving verbal instructions to this male are not visible. This exact process was repeated with four (4) other males in the same area who were of the same approximate age. One on top of the structure, they walked to another area of the roof not visible from this surveillance position. Concurrent with obtaining this limited footage, a number of adult males from nearby houses began calling attention to the surveillance operations, which necessitated an abrupt termination to avoid further compromise or potential altercation. "I have sources--inside sources. These people at Best are armed and dangerous. They are doing paramilitary training there." "The most alarming thing, however, of it all, is not the cell in Lackawanna but this Masten Park." "I've been warned by my sources, one of whom was actually a member of the group and he said they were holding paramilitary exercises there and that he fears he is in danger of his very life." --Buffalo Common Council Member Charley Fisher Recent articles by Doug Hagmann Source-
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Darul-Uloom Al Madania, a private boarding school
( See >> was Polish Church, Photo Above )
Now who will send their child to this school?
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Principal of Islamic school in Buffalo ousted over sex allegations
............................................................................................................ The Buffalo News
Aug. 27, 2008 Mark Sommer Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:07:41 AM by Mr. Dough He may have taken student as second wife
The principal of an Islamic boarding school on Buffalo's East Side has been forced to resign
after allegations that he was sexually involved with one of his students and that he
claimed to have taken her as a second wife.
Evidence suggests Mohammed Ibrahim Memon, a father of seven, persuaded Sajidah
Khan, then 21, to marry under Islamic law as a pretense to sleep with her.
Memon, an Islamic scholar and imam, has agreed to leave his post at Darul-Uloom Al-
Madania, 182 Sobieski St., for a minimum of seven years...
(Excerpt) Read more at buffalonews.com ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; buffalo; islam; mohammedanism; schools How can I begin to comment on this? Except to say that this "school", which I had never heard of, is in the old Polish section of Buffalo, now more-or-less a no-man's-land. ....................
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Buying up old Christian Churches in your State?
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Islam Has Declared it Illegal to do this with a Mosque
New York State
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The Islamic Society of Niagara Frontier - Amherst Center .............................................................................................. 745 Heim Rd., Amherst, NY 14228, (716)-568-1013 Universal School of Buffalo (Offers elementary education in an Islamic environment) .......................................................................................................................................... Universal School. 1957 Genesee St. Buffalo, NY 14211. 716- 597-0102 (phone). 716-597-0280 (fax) Darul Uloom Al-Madania (full-time Qur'anic school and Masjid Zakaria) ..................................................................................................................... 182 Sobieski St., Buffalo, NY 14211 ,(716)-892-2606
Lackawanna Yemenite Community Mosque ........................................................................... 154 Wilkes Barre Ave, Lackawanna, NY 14218
Masjid Dar-as-Salaam ...................................... 75 E. Parade St., Buffalo, NY 14211
Masjid Nu'man ......................... 1373 Fillmore Ave, Buffalo, NY 14211-1245
Islamic Center of Medina .......................................... 414 West Ave., Medina, NY 14103
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Universal School of Buffalo (Offers elementary education in an Islamic environment)
.......................................................................................................................................... Universal School. 1957 Genesee St. Buffalo, NY 14211. 716- 597-0102 (phone). 716-597-0280 (fax) KATHY AHMED
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Member and co-founder of RAHAMA - Resources and Help Against Marital Abuse - works to educate and support victims, social service providers, immigrant communities and religious leaders on domestic violence issues in the immigrant Muslim community (www.rahama-dv.org). Works as a school principal at Universal School in Buffalo - a K-8th grade elementary Islamic school
Organization Name/ Address UNIVERSAL SCHOOL
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BUFFALO, NY 14211-1819 Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(3)
organization) Elementary, Secondary Education, K - 12
Secondary Name (another name under which this nonprofit organization does business. Also used for trade names, chapter names, or local numbers for subordinate organizations of group rulings) n/r Affiliation (defines the organizational grouping) This organization is an independent organization or an independent auxiliary (i.e., not affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of organizations). Deductibility Status Contributions are deductible Foundation Type School Tax Period
(the date of the latest return filed) 06/2009 ....................................
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Remember the Muslim Television executive, Muzzammil Hassan, who decapitated his wife near Buffalo, New York? His TV station, Bridges TV, was created to promote the idea that Islam is a religion of peace and friendship. This station's goals perfectly fit with the intense Saudi PR machine, which is spending tons of money to change the image of Islam in the West - even if it takes denials, fabrications and outright lies.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: February 16, 2009
Two New York Muslim and South Asian Women's Groups Condemn the Gruesome
Beheading of Aasiya Hassan in Buffalo (NY )
Turning Point for Women and Families and Domestic Harmony Foundation (Long
Island), both nonprofits providing services for battered women in New York area Muslim
communities, strongly condemn the tragic and gruesome beheading of Aasiya Hassan in Buffalo on February 12, 2009.
Police have charged Muzzammil Hassan, with second degree murder in the killing of his wife, a 37-year-old mother of two, ages 4 and 6. She secured an order of protection against her husband on February 6 and had filed for divorce. Her body was found Thursday evening after Hassan directed police to look for her in his office at Bridges TV.
SUNDAY FEBRUARY 14, 2010
DHF and Turning Point for Women and Families hosted a program
in commemoration of the murder of Aasiya Zubair Hassan last year on February 12, 2009. 1st Annual Fundraising Gala:
Women of Hope: Wiping Tears, Breaking the Silence at: The Greens at Half Hollow, One Altessa Boulevard Melville, NY 11747 ............................................
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Islam is more than a Religion, it is also a political system with a religiously based Legal system. .Many people do not realize this ! ..................................................... Shari'a Law - By Dr. Hathut ................................................... The primary source of the Shari'a is of course the Quran, the literal word of God. The Quran deals with a full range of issues ranging from the establishment
of the creed (chapters I, II, and III) to defining the absolute moral standards
and codes of permissible and impermissible behavior.
It delineates the articles of worship, and lays down the framework of a comprehensive legal system
relating to family law, economic rules, penal code, social conduct,
treaties, ethics of war and peace,
pattern of government (the Shura is considered the Islamic forerunner of democracy),
http://www.muslimbridges.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=81&Itemid=111 ................... |
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We are clueless to not see the writing on the walls........we will be blindsided.
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. . Kind of like allowing in a Trojan Horse with open arms... and offering to pay for it's boarding. |
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Expressions of Islam in America The 1990s may be the last decade in which Islam is viewed as a "non-mainstream" religious tradition in America. At its current rate of growth, by the year 2015 Islam will be the second largest religion in the United States, following Christianity. There are approximately four million Muslims in the United States and 650 mosques. ............
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From google-
Twenty-Year Plan: Islam Targets AmericaMuslims in America - The Rise of Islam - Harun YahyaIslam and Muslims in USAEmergence of Islam in the African-American CommunityA quick question about the growth of Muslim mosquesBooks for the growth of islam in americaThe Muslims of America - Yvonne Yazbeck Haddad, ... - 1993 - 262 pages
Muslim Communities in North America - Yvonne Yazbeck Haddad, Jane I Smith - 1994 - 580 pages
Islam in America - Jane I Smith - 2000 - 276 pages Searches related to the growth of islam in america |
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They Move Among Us as... Religious/ Educational AID Organizations
Parading as Non Profit Organizations Gathering up Billions For Their Cause.
A Religious Movement in Turkey
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The Fethullah Gulen community: This is the largest and strongest Islamist community in Turkey, as well as the most prominent representative of the Nur ("Light") movement of Said-i Nursi. [2] It is led by Fethullah Gulen, or, as he is referred to by his community, Fethullah Gulen Hocaefendi, and according to media assessments, about 30 of the AKP candidates who have a good chance of being elected are Fethullah Gulen followers (Fethullahcilar).
Fethullah Gulen
Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania
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The GULEN Community
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of Trustees will travel to Istanbul, Turkey, for four days in May, at the invitation of a Muslim community made up of followers of Turkish theologian Fethullah Gulen. The board will hold its business meeting on one day and then spend time with the leading figures of the community. The Gulen community is
committed to Christian- Muslim dialogue and dialogue with other faith communities in general. The community has several students studying at Hartford Seminary, and has had scholars come to the Seminary for sabbatical work. It intends to strengthen
its relationship with Hartford Seminary through this visit. Martin L. Budd, Chair of the Board, said of the fourday trip, "Both the trustees and the faculty have said that a key goal is to enhance the international visibility of Hartford Seminary. : O What better way than to meet overseas?"
"When we received the gracious
invitation from this Muslim community interested in Christian-Muslim relations, and they would cover the ground costs of the visit, this was an offer that we couldn't refuse," he said. Fethullah Gulen is well
known for his activities in the interreligious realm, his standing on the reconcilability
of Islam and laicism, his public condemnation of violence in the name of Islam, and his stance on the significance of education in Islam. The backbone of the Gulen fellowship is its highly
regarded elementary and high schools -more than 1,000 concentrated in Turkey and ethnically linked parts of Central Asia, with other sites from New York to China.
Gulen’s supporters also run six universities. The Gulen community also
has a strategic spectrum of media voices: a national television channel, more than a half dozen radio stations, the Cihan news agency and one of Turkey’s largest daily newspapers, Zaman, and several weekly and monthly magazines. The movement is influenced by the concept of "Turkish Islam" formulated by some nationalist thinkers, and also the Nur movement that
developed around the writings
of Bediuzzaman Said Nursi.
The followers of Fethullah Gulen favor modernism, tolerance,
dialogue and democracy without sacrificing religious precepts. Gulen currently lives in Saylorsburg, PA,
for health reasons. .................................................................
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America Gets a Clue
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A secretive foreign network of Islamic radicals now operates dozens of charter
schools - which receive government money but are not required to adopt a state-
approved curriculum - on U.S. soil.
Islamist Gulen Movement Runs U.S. Charter SchoolsBy Stephen Schwartz ...puppet master for the current Turkish government headed by the "soft Islamist"
Justice and Development Party, known by its Turkish initials as the AKP...
Fethullah Gulen
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Gulen's Deception into American Education
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"You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence
until you reach all the power centers …" he said. "You must wait for the time when you
are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it."
The WEB of The Gulen Movement, tied to EDUCATION
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He'd connected more than 120 U.S. schools to Gulen. He sent an e-mail to every one
of their teachers.
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Plan for Mosque in Tennessee Town Draws Criticism from ResidentsMurfreesboro Mosque Sparks Debate That at Times Turns UglyABC NEWS
748 comments By BRADLEY BLACKBURN
June 18, 2010
VIDEO on NY Mosque (scroll down )
Dozens of photographs taken by the New York City Fire Department and newly released by the government provide a sobering reminder of the conditions at ground zero in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.
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The West Will remain The West.
........................................................ Separation of Church and State What part of --- Separation of Church and State and-
There would be too many Religions to Provide For Anyway --- Does Turkey Not Understand?
In The West it is not a policy of the State to provide Religious Education Services. ........................................................................................................................................... From Turkish Newspaper-
Todays Zaman
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"...There are 30 million Muslims in Europe. Unfortunately, Europe has yet to give
a status to the religion of these 30 million people. It has yet to solve its
religious education problems and its religious services problems."
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Charles Krauthammer
July 2, 2010 12:00 A.M.
Terror - and Candor
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I think this administration Forgot their 'Yes We Can' attitude.... Two for one, diminish American exceptionalism but make Muslims feel good in the process.
Please also see the Video from Breitbart TV below.
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What's with Europe? Why this so called Islamophobia ?
..................................................................................................... Muslims attacking Muslims
............................................. ...Angry protests were held in Lahore and several cities and towns across the country on Friday calling for a tougher government crackdown on militants linked to al Qaeda
and Taliban who generally abhor the Sufi strand of Islam and disapprove of Muslims
visiting shrines, popular with many Pakistanis.
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LAHORE | Sat Jul 3, 2010 9:44am EDT
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Islam is more than a Religion, it is also a political system with a religiously based Legal system. .Many people do not realize this ! ..................................................... Shari'a Law - By Dr. Hathut ................................................... The primary source of the Shari'a is of course the Quran, the literal word of God. The Quran deals with a full range of issues ranging from the establishment
of the creed (chapters I, II, and III) to defining the absolute moral standards
and codes of permissible and impermissible behavior.
It delineates the articles of worship, and lays down the framework of a comprehensive legal system
relating to family law, economic rules, penal code, social conduct,
treaties, ethics of war and peace,
pattern of government (the Shura is considered the Islamic forerunner of democracy),
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There is no 'Religion' on Earth Encompassing this Total Human Oppression. ........................................................................................................................................ Islam is not merely a Religion... the error continues....
Obama backs Ground Zero mosque ...................................................................... By ASSOCIATED PRESS
08/14/2010 05:03 "As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said
a reader's comment....
22. Practise their religion
Author: RemkoCountry: the Netherlands08/14/2010 06:49 The problem is that some things being practises in islam are against our western moral values and law. Can a muslim kill another muslim if he leaves islam. Can a muslim marry a 6 year old ? Can a muslim take a non muslim as his friend ? Can a muslim lie to non muslims ? Can a muslim beat his wife ? If we let muslims practise their religion in the west it goes against many things we stand for in the west. Are we willing to accept as a tolerant west the non tolerant ? Are we willing to give up our laws values and morals in order to be seen as tolerant to the non tolerant. Think about it ... ...........................................
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If Obama wants it then, I think the Mosque at Ground Zero will be built no matter what the America public thinks, and in that case I suggest bringing some Ham sandwiches to celebrate and share with your fellow Muslim worshipers and don�t forget Hawaiian pork roast on the main floor for the opening day
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"A New Global Threat" ...................................... "Political Correctness is the fertilizer"
Crying out Against Islamization Since 2007
................................................................................. The Enemy Within The Uk & Europe
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................ CNN report on the Islamic threat within Britain ................................................................................ ................................................................................ VIDEO
................ Britannia stan? ................................. ............................................... .................................................... Welcome To Saudi Britain (banned video) ........................................................................ VIDEO
............. Islamification of Great Britain
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Hidayatullah changed its form to a mass organization
........................................................................................... This is how it begins.
Islamic school, ... Social Center ... Hidayatullah was founded on 7 January 1973 ................................................................................. ... by Ustadz Abdullah Said in Balikpapan, (Borneo, Indonesia )
as a form of pesantren (Islamic school, most of whom are boarders).
From a pesantren, ( Islamic school ) Hidayatullah was developed further with many activities
such as social,
mission,
education
and economy programs
and spread to many regions.
As of 2003, this institution had networks in 200 cities, in every province in Indonesia. By the first national meeting on July 9-13, 2000 in Balikpapan, Hidayatullah changed its form to a mass organization
and declared itself as an Islamic Struggle Movement.
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VIDEOs ................... Banned- What Muslims dont want you to (know) How to beat your wife ( In places it won't cause marks ) MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM Does It Sound Nuts To You? ...................................................... If You Let Sharia Law ( What were the Brits Thinking? ) Get A Toe Hold...
It could be legal if assigned by the head of state as being so, and it would be legal,
always, therefore at the discretion of the people and government not defined by Islam,
then it just might be legal or illegal.
Or... It can be illegal if someone with enough power wishes it to be illegal.
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I always thought Islam only indicated that it was necessary to implement the hudood? As a) there are no laws to be executed on a state level inherently, it is up to the head of state to criminalise an action and choose the punishment as they would be tazir. So for example if someone was to violate the rules of Islam such as taking riba and setting up a abnk that undertakes riba based transactions, it may be haram but not criminal or illegal unless made so by the head of state, and there would be no punishments without one being assigned by the head of state as being so, it could just be left to the ulema to prevent. ...................
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5:36 p.m., Sunday AUSTRIA Islamic leaders, rightists spar over mosques VIENNA | A call for more mosques with minarets in Austria gave rise Sunday to heated criticism from right-wing politicians, some going as far as demanding a ban on all immigrants from Muslim countries. more-
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Who said This????
"This is all about hate and Islamaphobia"
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From Mahs...
Question Of The Week
Who said This????
"This is all about hate and Islamaphobia"
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from Mary008...
"... Islamaphobia"
Must be from the (extreme) left :) Political Correctors... Moderation... logic ... is best.
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I see Muslim Women in the fabric store, I smile and say hello,
they love their children and enjoy shopping just as I do.
We can so far feel unthreatened. But the Dutch in their tiny country
do feel threatened, overtaken. Just as the people in Arizona feel overtaken by
illegal aliens, taxing their social system drastically.
Islam is not tollerant.
Islamists may purchase our churches and turn them into Mosques...
In Islam it is illegal ( Sharia Law ) to ever destroy or sell a Mosque.
once a Mosque always a mosque.
Christians would never be allowed to buy back ... a church turned Mosque.
Time For The 'Politically Correct' to Educate Themselves on Islam ............................................................................................................... You may hear of "fear" or Islamaphobia... don't buy it. This is real, there is actually a system - Islam - that is Legal (Sharia )
and Political... a desire to overtake the Infadels.
Islam is not something we in the West wish to embrace. Logical
reasons back up our desire for Islam to not overtake or become number one in the West.
Before young people write their -love all so called religions articles- on the internet for folks like- Salon or the New York Times etc. ... Please- Bone up on Islam
There are many sources.
one- You will like Avi....
Lipkin - 5 Deceptions of Islam - Pt 1 .......................................................................
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Did anyone notice? fall 2009
A Barbaric System...
Obama nominee supports Islamic Sharia law in U S
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Another
I heard it from a friend of a friend who heard it from a secret friend who told me!
Good Lord
FOX is rendering themselves (POINTLESS)
They need a new slogan
How Bout
Who Do You Hate This Week, they could make it a
Right Wing Reality TV Show
Could Work!
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I think it's just another distraction from having us pay attention to reality! The oil spill, the build of the Mosque at Ground Zero, it's the left hand distracting us from paying attention to the right hand. It's the economy, or lack there of, we've been raped by the Banksters, and their puppet politicians!
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Jihad Watch ........................ Keeping an Eye on Extremists
Another "moderate" imam and supporter of Ground Zero mosque won't condemn Hamas ................................................................................................................................................. August 25, 2010
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Ground Zero Mosque
................................................. Rags to Riches story ........................................ pibillwarner.wordpress.com
.................................................. EXCLUSIVE..Sharif El-Gamal The CEO of SOHO Properties The Developer Of The Ground Zero Mosque Grew Up And Went to School in Liberia And Waited Tables in NYC.
Sharif El-Gamal, Ground Zero mosque developer, threatens Canadian Muslim who opposes Ground Zero mega-mosque ...................
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Londonistan - Melanie Phillips .......................................................... 2008 VIDEO NPR ............ February 21, 2009
Many were shocked by the beheading of Aasiyah Hassan, wife of a Muslim television executive in New York this week. Hassan's husband has been charged with second-degree murder.
listen here-
U.S. Muslim Beheads Wife. Sharia Law and Honor Killings in America, What's Next! ............................................................................................................................................ 2009 VIDEO
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Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf
He would like to see Sharia Law in the USA...
Ground Zero Mosque, Sharia Law, & Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf
VIDEO
So Not Funny....
Feisal Abdul Rauf says America is "a Sharia Compliant State"
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Barack Obama adviser says Sharia Law is misunderstood ................................................................................................... President Barack Obama's adviser on Muslim affairs, Dalia Mogahed, has provoked controversy by appearing on a British television show hosted
by a member of an extremist group to talk about Sharia Law.
Sharia Law
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... a more efficient legal system."
Under the agreement, which the men and the governor signed with much ceremony, the Taliban will be permitted to implement their interpretation of Islamic law, or Sharia, in the Swat Valley and other adjacent districts at the foot of the Hindu Kush mountain range. "Today is a historic day," said Amir Haider Khan Hoti, the chief minister of the provincial government, clearly straining to put a positive spin on the Taliban’s assumption of power. "An old demand of the people has been met. The new regulation will provide a more efficient legal system."
It was a blatant lie. Most Pakistanis are shocked by the prospect that, in the Swat Valley, thieves could have their hands cut off and adulterers could face stoning in the future. Such punishments were in fact already possible under Pakistani law, but have never been carried out in the past. Note the laughing... (it's entertainment? )
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Very few Americans condone harming any sacred texts. .................................................................................................. Just as very few Afghan people condoned the blowing up of the ancient Buddha, by the Taliban.
We must put the extreme violence to rest. ....................................................................... (Christian suicide bombings must stop.) 2000 year old Buddha statues blown up in Afghanistan ............................................................................................... NPR
............ September 10, 2010 Pew Research Center ........................................... Public Remains Conflicted Over Islam ................................................................. August 24, 2010
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Author Mila Zinkova, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_gorilla_in_SF_zoo.jpg
Is Islam the "800 lb gorilla"?
..................................................... "800 lb gorilla" is a similar idiomatic expression; however, it refers to a large, unstoppable
individual or organization that can exert its will as it desires, even if people do their best to
ignore it
When in Rome... EU Countries Firm
on Immigrants Acceptance of various European Cultures
.................................................................................................................................. (and now Australia) Smooth Integration of Cultures .... is important in these small EU countries. There is Sharia Law in England now and many other small EU countries
wish to retain their unique Laws and culture.
This is Big in Europe ......................................... We are talking small state size countries... feeling overrun by Islam... Islam is much more than a ...religion ... or a veil. It is a Political, Legal and Religious System, Outwardly Direct about wanting to Overtake.
............................................................................................................................................................ Interesting video ..................................... ................................................. AUSTRALIA SAYS NO MORE BURQA .............................................................. VIDEO
French law spurs reactions, controversy
................................................................... Anna Beyerle, News Editor September 23, 2010 The French Senate passed a bill into law on Tuesday, Sept. 14, that has prompted debate beyond the country's borders. The law bans all full-face veils donned by some Muslim women to be worn in public. Similar legislation is pending in four other countries as well.
On Full Body Veiling... niqab ............................................. Kasem: It is interesting to note that before the advent of Islam, the women of Arabia enjoyed much freedom and equality. ...............................................................................................................................................................
Excerpt from- http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30674
Symposium: Hate Behind the Niqab By: Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, April 25, 2008 FP: Brigitte Gabriel?
Gabriel: The tragedy of wrapping a woman with the Niqab is the conscious effort of rendering women as invisible shadow lurking in the background of existence. What started as a symbol of oppression has become now a cause and a fashion statement which women especially in the Islamic world are pressuring other Muslims women to wear lest they be accused of being unholy or unworthy of marriage. Since in the Islamic world most women are not allowed to work, their reputation and honor in the community will be the deciding factor in their marriage prospects. A woman's value in the marriage market will increase the more her Islamic practice is abided by. A woman wearing a Niqab is a desirable symbol of obedience and complete submission to her religion and its teaching which makes her a perfect servant to a man. Most women will face more pressure from their female family members to wear the Niqab than from the male members of the family. Today with the rise of Islamism throughout the world the Niqab, Hijab, Burka or the head covers have become a fashion symbol flashed by Muslim women in the West as well to show their pride in their Islamic heritage.
When a woman is deprived of any worthiness by her religion such as the case with Islam, she hangs on any symbols which give her respect in her society as a good woman. There is a saying in the Arabic world to a woman: "Allah Yustur Alaiki" May Allah cover your shame. Her existence as she is created by God is shameful and needs to be covered first by a veil then by a husband. The Niqab is the answer to that prayer. Darwish: A woman’s body according to several Islamic hadiths is Awrah, Arabic for pudendum, the external genitals and a thing to be ashamed of, especially of the female. She must cover her shame. But instead of civilizing men and elevating his animal side teaching him self-control and respect for a woman’s body, Islam burdened the woman with his responsibility. Thus, when the man’s uncontrollable lust makes him sin, it is the woman's fault. Sharia Islamic law caters to men at the expense of women by requiring her to cover her body for his sake. In the radical Hambaly-Wahhabi school, she is required to be in a ghost-like garment covering every inch of her body. The devout Muslim woman cannot reject Sharia because rejecting it is like rejecting Allah himself. Her solution to have respect and power in society is often "If you can’t beat them, joint them."
Thus, many Muslim women have found power and respect in becoming as radical -- if not more radical than men -- and her radicalism is most prominently expressed through her garment. By choosing to wear an extreme dehumanizing, even scary, outfit she proves to herself and others that she is worthy and holy as the wives of Mohammad. She now can demand the respect of Muslim society for her sacrifice.
As to Muslim women who choose to wear Niqab in the West without family pressure, I believe they are militant Muslim women who want to tell the West they are for Sharia law. I once asked a woman wearing Niqab, why? She said it is “my form of jihad.” When I once visited a mosque in the early 80’s we were told: “Do not assimilate in America.” And I believe that the Niqab is the ultimate message in defiance to Western freedoms and gender equality.
Gutmann: The Niqab brings to mind the conformation of the bedouin tent, designed for mobility, concealment and protection. Thus, even as the traditional Arab woman walks abroad, she remains shrouded, confined within her "house". Even within the traditional Arab home, the women of the house do not encounter men from the outer world.
These are met and given hospitality by the men of the house in a kind of transitional zone - the Diwan, the room for receiving guests - and the women are only muted voices sifting through from the distant "feminine" spaces of the dwelling. Wearing the Niqab as she ventures forth the Arab woman remains an extension of her closed domestic space, which she carries with her.
The Niqab then functions as a kind of immune system, one which maintains the inner world, the domain behind the fabrics, in a stable, predictable state. Even as the Arab woman ventures out into a world characterized by flux and change, she carries within her Niqab -- a token of the stable domestic world.
There is not much that a traditional Arab woman can control. Not surprising then that a large number value the Niqab for the illusion of control that it provides to the wearer.
FP: Sort of like the illness of obsessive compulsive disorder (ocd). They say that a large number of people who suffer terribly with this illness do it because, in its deepest roots, they are engaging in something that is "theirs." They have been so violated and their boundaries have been so enmeshed on one or more realms, that they have their ocd, and even if it brings them great harm, it is "theirs," their own thing that they themselves can control. So for instance, even with other illnesses, let us say anorexia: when an anorexic woman starves herself, she is starving herself, and noone else is starving her, so it is a statement of independence and autonomy, something she never had on a realm that was vital to her, etc.). Kasem: It is interesting to note that before the advent of Islam, the women of Arabia enjoyed much freedom and equality. ...............................
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The problem that responsibility is encountering here is Islam's already privileged status, where anything but accolades is to be met with knee-jerk accusations of the worst possible intentions, so as to shut down the discussion and silence dissent.
An update on this story. "Texas ed board adopts resolution limiting Islam," from the Associated Press, September 24:
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Da'wa (convert ) activities sponsored by Arab Gulf States in America.
US Muslim Students Assoc. headquartered in Plainfield, Indiana, established a network of Islamist publishing concerns...
from.... Islam in Black America: identity, liberation, and difference in African ... By Edward E. Curtis ook_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Da'wa%20plainfield%20indiana&f=false
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Frontpagemag.com Since September 11, Americans have learned, many groups with Dawa-derived names now
operate and plot violence from bases in the U.S. But a greater danger may reside in
Dawa's largely invisible nationwide success.
What's Dawa?
........................... Although a common Islamic proper noun, Dawa is actually a dynamic, an obligatory duty (fard) for Muslims of all sects and degrees of (im)moderation. Muslims call it "inviting others to Islam." Really, it's proselytizing, which Islam encourages the faithful to achieve at any cost. In fact, al-Qaeda lieutenant Abu 'Ubeid Al-Qurashi boasted last year that September 11th gave Islam enormously effective publicity. It also marked the launch of a massive global Dawa campaign. Al-Qurashi called Dawa "integral to triumph in fourth-generation warfare." read more here-
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=17283 3RD VIDEO down on this site-...
Christians and Jews will adopt the sincere practices of Muslims as models and say that one
must be a true Mohammedan in order to be a true Christian or Jew
The LEADER OF World of Freemasonry told him ....it would be a good thing for Islam to rule the world.
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wrong...
No One Person (or Organization) Freemasonry is a wide and diverse organization throughout the world. It's growth and development in each location has been responsive to the nation in which it exists as well as the makeup of its membership. In addition, there have been many organizations which have appeared over the years 'imitating' Masonry and calling themselves 'Masons'. Among the great majority of Masonic entities which recognize each other (using "Ancient Landmarks" and other commonalties derived from the beginning of the organization 300 years ago), however, there is no one leader. Each Grand Lodge (the highest governing body for each particular group of Masons) is independent and decides matters as it feels is appropriate. A Grand Master speaks for his Grand Jurisdiction but ONLY when he is serving as Grand Master and ONLY for his specific Jurisdiction. Thus the statements of the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Masons in California is no more binding upon or reflective of the positions of the United Grand Lodge of Germany than are the rules of the Japanese-American Friendship Association upon the City Council of Kilmarnock, Scotland! FROM-
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The Supreme Being and the Volume of Sacred LawCandidates for regular Freemasonry are required to declare a belief in a Supreme Being.[28] However, the candidate is not asked to expand on, or explain, his interpretation of Supreme Being. The discussion of politics and religion is forbidden within a Masonic Lodge, in part so a Mason will not be placed in the situation of having to justify his personal interpretation.[29] Thus, reference to the Supreme Being will mean the Christian Trinity to a Christian Mason, Allah to a Muslim Mason, Para Brahman to a Hindu Mason, etc. And while most Freemasons would take the view that the term Supreme Being equates to God, others may hold a more complex or philosophical interpretation of the term. |
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Women in Iran... The Brains of the outfit?
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A jaunt through Tehran, Esfahan and Persepolis.
By JASON REZAIAN in San Francisco
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Not wanting any harm to come to the Iranian people... Stuxnet may insure that.
That is... if the male underpinings don't unravel.
(yes... the religious leaders determined the best place for a nuclear position was near a unesco World Heritage Site... )
Author Mahshid.Nadimi, http://en.wikipedia.org,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esfahan
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Interviewer-
He says... "... No Sharia is going to far?
FREE SPEECH on trial on the Netherlands
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Geert Wilders Factor: 'Heroic fighter' for Western democracy?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5urCJwhtrY&feature=relatedGeert Wilders Warning to America Part 1 of 2
Geert Wilders Warning to America Part 2 of 2
March For Shariah in London
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male Arabic clothing.... in london...
note the extremist muslims in London emulating the dress of the Gulf State Wahhabi clothing style...
Wahhabism- Wahhabi
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Wahhabism is a Sunni Islamic sect based on the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, an 18th century scholar from what is today known as Saudi Arabia, who advocated purging Islam of what he considered impurities.
impurities... infadels that's US...
Anjem Choudary on March For Sharia In London - House Of Commons - Downing Street - Trafalgar Square
Islamic Radicalisation in U.K. - CNN documentary
...Each Saudi entered the washroom wearing his traditional dress and exited changed now into western clothes. My question though is what is it that prevents or prohibits these men from starting their journey at their residence in western wear? Why must they wait until the flight is airborne before changing their style of dress?
The word thawb is the standard Arabic word for 'a garment'. It is the traditional Arab dress for men. It is sometimes spelled thobe or thaub. It is a tunic, generally long. The word is used specifically for this garment in the Persian Gulf States. There has been some debate regarding the correct length of the thawb. Shorter length represents modesty, while longer represents royalty, status and wealth. wikipedia
Author Mary Paulose from Muscat, Oman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dishdasha.jpg
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