Can Obama and Cameron stay if FSA was behind gas-a

Top-headline was to long ? 

He works at Harvard ? Still the question remains, can "Western leaders" stay if it turns out they made a very big mistake ?  (arirish; thanks for your reaction, but there seems to be more evidence for FSA being responsible, not only Mr. Corsi). 

You guys are underestimating the relationship between the media and the government. Most people and i do mean most, believe anything they are told on their nightly news. Nothing will happen unless the Americans vote for a better leader. They missed out with Ron Paul. :(

"Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play." -- Joseph Goebbels

I am surprised by the vote in the British House of Commons (The UK-parlement). Both Labour and Conservatives were very critical. Cameron only had his "belief" that the Assad-regime was responsible. UK-inteligence was 75% certain that the Syrian Government was responsible. But they also claimed that the "rebels"  (surprisingly now named as Al-Qaeida) did not have WMD/nervegas. 

US Supported Iraq’s Use of Chemical Weapons, Even As It Inches to War With Syria on Lesser Allegations

http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/08/26/us-supported-iraqs-use-of-chemical-weapons-even-as-it-inches-to-war-with-syria-on-lesser-allegations/

enough said

lets face facts

governments LIE about virtually everything

trust them at your own risk

I am not anti-American or anti-NATO but pro-peace and reason ! People in Syria deserve peace and a future. If NATO-intervention turns Syria into another Iraq that is not helping the U.S., Europe or the Syrians. A lot of military who did see war do not want to see war again. It is civilized to solve problems talking not shooting !

you are missing the point

no one is anti-American

we're just pro TRUTH

Dutch Josh wrote: Top-headline was to long ?  Can Obama and Cameron stay if FSA was behind gas-attack ?  In my eyes, if there is clear proof that the FSA was behind those attacks, Obama in the US, Cameron in the UK and Holande in France, and their administrations have to go ! They have been supporting a group of criminals and that is not acceptable ! The Iraq-war was illegal. Blair, Bush and a lot of others should stand trial for that. If it turns out that in Syria the "Western Leaders"completely failed there is a big crisis !

Wait, what? How was the Iraq war illegal? Against who's law? Who is going to prosecute them? The *****ing UN is not the arbiter of law and if you say against UN law you instantly lose all credibility.

War is the continuation of policy with different means.

Even if we bomb the Syrians back to the Stone Age, I'm cool with that. Personally I say we carpet bomb the entire country with strategic bombers because there aren't any good guys in that conflict.

Don't waste your time Turboguy,these people just don't get it

Paul Craig Roberts gets "it"

America Totally Discredited 

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/30/america-totally-discredited-paul-craig-roberts/

why do you equate telling the truth with "hating" America ???

"patriotism" is the LAST refuge of a scoundrel

or so I hear

and Paul Craig Roberts is a former official in the REAGAN administration

quite the rock solid conservative

if yer is such a hurry to go to war 

GO

join up with the "rebels"

just be advised that they are quite the supporters of ALQaeda

Mahshadin wrote: Seriously   America Totally Discredited  That's your contribution along with America supported Saddam Gassing people   Like I said before, if you hate America so much just get the Hill out and don't let the door hit you in the ars on your way out.

It's not about hating America, it's about utter disappointment with the total catastrophe our President and his cronies have been from LITERALLY day one.

Zer0's accomplishments in foreign policy can be summed up with one word: Disaster.

Disaster in Egypt. Disaster In Libya, Disaster in regards to Israel, Disaster in regards to Russia and China. I'm personally at a loss as to what he's actually done in foreign policy that hasn't been a complete and total disaster.

Let's see: Sold firearms to Cartels in Mexico in a false flag attempt, which backfired spectacularly, resulting in the deaths of THOUSANDS of Mexicans and hundreds of Americans.

Gave "G" model Stinger missiles to various members of Rebel groups in Libya who were Al Qaeda affiliates, then when the MANPADS were attempted to be taken back, they attacked our consulate and STOLE 400 "G" model stingers and we have no farking clue where they are at the moment. Then they sodomized and murdered an American ambassador in full view of how many ARMED drones? On top of that there were NOT ONLY Special Force assets within an hour of Libya, but numerous strategic air assets within twenty minutes of dropping hate and discontent on Muslim scum AND WE DID NOTHING!!!! And in an effort to obfuscate the truth they called it a reaction to a God damned Youtube video. The orders not to strike back CAME FROM THE TOP and they left our people, AMERICAN asses out in the wind because it wasn't politically prudent to the President's failed policies to say that Al Qaeda attacked us as he'd just said that they were on the run.

Need I go on?

Okay.

Acted like a whipped dog, A WHIPPED FARKING DOG, while talking to a second rate power's president, begging him to tell Vladimir that once he was re-elected he could further commit his treason and disarm and remove missile defense against OUR ENEMIES!

How about overthrowing a tyrant true, but a stabilizing force in the area, and fully supporting an extremist Islamic leader and people which has now become one of the least stable areas of the planet?

Any one of these should have gotten this disaster and all traces of his disease removed from office and scrubbed from the annals of history, but with a complicit media, and a blindfolded populace, nothing happened.

At least with G.W. we had someone with a team that's not referred to as "Amateur Hour" by the rest of the world's diplomats.

It's not about hating America, it's about hating the utter disaster that our country's become under the tutelage of this piece of scum President and his catastrophe of a cabinet.

Obama is buying time by putting plans for an attack on Syria for vote in Congress (in the week sept.9, by that time UN-inspectorsteam results from Syria might be more clear). In fact maybe you could say that Obama is hiding behind Congress and that is shocking !

Dutch Josh wrote: @Turboguy, I agree that the Obama-administrations foreign policy is a disaster. But that disaster started before Obama became President. In my opinion NATO "slipped the road" after the end of the Soviet Union and from a defensive group of nations developed into an agressive military club working for oil-companies and banks. Iraq and Libya were for oil and gas, nothing "humanitarian"!

@hachiban08, I think investing in peace is wiser then investing in war. WWII made the US the main-exporter of weapons and material in the world. But Great Britain paid for it, more or less, with its colonies. The Dutch lost the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), the French lost their colonies. 

Bs

See my comments about NATO in "Implications from Syria"