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arirish
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 6:45am |
This is only pilgrims from Indonesia, I've looked and can't find stats for Hajj over all.
24 Indonesian haj pilgrims die in Holy Land The number of Indonesian haj pilgrims passing away in the Holy Land in the current haj pilgrimage season has reached 24. Data from the Integrated Haj Computerized Service System (Siskoat) shows that the 24 deaths included the last three recorded in Mecca and another one in Medina. Two of the three who died in Mecca were identified as Muliana Rambe binti Abdul Rambe, 59, from the Medan embarkation point, and Rukmini binti Abdullah, 67, from the Jakarta embarkation point, while the other was not yet identified. The one who died in Medina was Abdul Manan from the Batam flight embarkation point. Indonesian Haj Health Service (BPHI) Medina head Suharto said Indonesian haj pilgrims had been provided with three health care service teams during their stay in Saudi Arabia. The first team provided health services during flights, the second was present during the haj boarding and the third was in the haj task force working areas. "BPHI Medina has an emergency room with a capacity of 65 beds for inpatient treatment," Suharto said in Medina as quoted by Antara news agency on Tuesday. According to the data, 1,389 patients have been receiving treatment from health teams - 130 in Jidda, 415 in Medina and 844 in Mecca. At least Indonesian 293 pilgrims were sent to Saudi Arabia's hospitals, the data shows. |
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what is your source? without one, your story is nothing but fiction
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Here you go sds ... no fiction here
The number of Indonesian haj pilgrims passing away in the Holy Land in the current haj pilgrimage season has reached 24. Data from the Integrated Haj Computerized Service System (Siskoat) shows that the 24 deaths included the last three recorded in Mecca and another one in Medina. Two of the three who died in Mecca were identified as Muliana Rambe binti Abdul Rambe, 59, from the Medan embarkation point, and Rukmini binti Abdullah, 67, from the Jakarta embarkation point, while the other was not yet identified. |
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Nice find Rickster,
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A lot of the pilgrims would be old, and therefore in ill health. and given the numbers travelling I would have expected some deaths.
24 deaths seems high to me, but if the number of plgrims was high this might be a reasonable number compared to other years. I think we need more information on regular fatalities before we can start saying this is MERS at play (although I expect MERS to make a "break for it" and escape from KSA with some of the pilgrims). |
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With all the hospital clusters this is what worried me in the article.
According to the data, 1,389 patients have been receiving treatment from health teams - 130 in Jidda, 415 in Medina and 844 in Mecca. At least Indonesian 293 pilgrims were sent to Saudi Arabia's hospitals, the data shows. |
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Hajj seems like a great event. Not primitive whatsoever. Incidents during the Hajj There have been many serious incidents during the Hajj (the Muslim pilgrimage to the city of Mecca) that in total have caused the loss of thousands of lives. Every follower of Islam is required to visit Mecca during the Hajj at least once in his or her lifetime, but only if they can afford or are able to do so. During the month of the Hajj, Mecca must cope with as many as four million pilgrims.[1] Jet travel makes Mecca and the Hajj more accessible to pilgrims
from all over the world. As a consequence, the Hajj has become
increasingly crowded. City officials are required to control large
crowds and provide food, shelter, sanitation, and emergency services for
millions. Unfortunately, they have not always been able to prevent
disasters. The stoning of the devil
ritual is the most dangerous part of the pilgrimage because of the huge
crowds, particularly as they cross the massive two-layer flyover-style Jamarat Bridge that affords access to the pillars. Stampedes and failures of crowd controlSometimes the surging crowds, trekking from one station of the pilgrimage to the next, cause a stampede. Panic spreads, pilgrims jostle to avoid being trampled, and hundreds of deaths can occur as a result. The stoning of the devil ceremony is particularly crowded and dangerous. Some notable incidents include:
DiseaseMingling of visitors from many countries, some of which have poor health care systems still plagued by preventable infectious diseases, can lead to the spread of epidemics. If an outbreak were to occur on the road to Mecca, pilgrims could exacerbate the problem when they returned home and passed their infection on to others. This was more of a problem in the past. One such disease, which has prompted response from the Saudi government, is meningitis as it became a primary concern after an international outbreak following the Hajj in 1987. Due to post-Hajj outbreaks globally of certain types of meningitis in previous years, it is now a visa requirement to be immunised with the ACW135Y vaccine before arrival. Every year, the Saudi government publishes a list of required vaccines for pilgrims, which for 2010 also includes yellow fever, polio, and influenza.[10] As of 9 September 2013, the Saudi government asked "elderly and chronically ill Muslims to avoid the hajj this year" and have restricted the numbers of people allowed into the country due to Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus.[11] Historical outbreaks
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If a disease global outbreak is highly probable from Hajj, especially with MERS emerging, still wondering why the WHO is implying that there is not a lot of risk. Anything to protect this crazy Muslim ritual...
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Pilgrims yearn for a burial in Madinah
Makkah geographically lies at the center of the Earth and it is an emotionally powerful magnet that draws Muslim worshipers from all corners of the world. It is the dream of every Muslim to go around the ebony black Kaâbah and to drink from the cool Zamzam water. Muslims yearn to visit the Prophetâs mosque in Madinah as well; to offer prayers and eventually die and be buried there; becoming neighbors with the Prophet in the afterlife. |
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Last Update: Thursday, 3 October 2013 KSA 15:32 - GMT 12:32 Saudi minister unveils plans to ensure hajj pilgrimsâ safety Saudi Minister of Health Abdullah al-Rabeea said on Wednesday that his ministry has devised a thorough plan to ensure the safety of pilgrims during this yearâs hajj season. âWe expanded the presence of healthcare workers, a total of 22,000, at all facilities in Mecca, Medina and (other) holy sites in order to follow up on all cases that may (medically) pose a threat to pilgrims,â Rabeea told Al-Arabiya. He also said that the ministry's preparations for this year's hajj season began at the end of last year's season, adding that the aim of early preparations is to detail all previous mistakes and thus avoid them during this year. âWe seek to provide the best healthcare services to pilgrims. We do this through coordinating with the World Health Organization and [other] international health organizations to gather information about all the countries from which pilgrims come,â he said. âWe then study this information, implement all requirements and order different vaccines which we specify according to the country,â the minister added. Rabeea also said that the number of specialized hospitals in place in the vicinity of Makkah and Madinah during the hajj season is 25: four in Arafat, four in Mina, seven in Mecca - in addition to King Abdullah Medical City - and nine in Madinah. He added that there are also 141 preliminary healthcare centers at holy sites: 46 in Arafat, six in Muzdalifah, 28 in Mina and the rest are distributed between Mecca and Madinah. The kingdomâs hajj ministry also provides ambulances for pilgrims who are incapable of finishing their hajj rituals due to illness or old age by transferring them to hospitals at holy sites, like Mina, Arafat and Muzdalifah in order to enable them to finish their pilgrimage. These convoys are available in Makkah as well as Madinah. Preparations for MERS Coronavirus Rabeea said his ministry has prepared for the Coronavirus by providing vaccines and medications, adding that there are also isolation rooms at hospitals. The ministry has also advised the elderly, children and those with chronic diseases not to go to hajj in order to maintain their health. There are also preliminary preparations to test for the SARS-like virus through following up on anyone suspected of carrying the virus, whether at hospitals or hajj missions. The Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus (MERS-CoV),which can cause coughing, fever and pneumonia, emerged in Saudi Arabia last year and has been reported in people in the Gulf, France, Germany, Italy, Tunisia and Britain. |
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