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cobber
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Posted: December 03 2013 at 9:08am |
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Hi guys when i'm bored i research viruses and associated treatments. ( i need a life)
I've been reading about this cool new anti viral nano technology. Supposedly its set to "revolutionize the treatment of viruses" (their words). One of the companies using it is Nanoviricides. I've attempted a link to a PDF of their treatment method. Its a nice simple explanation of this type of technology.
http://www.nanoviricides.com/Eugene%20PresentationNVC%20LD%20MICRO%20Conference%20Final.pdf - http://www.nanoviricides.com/Eugene%20Presentation/NNVC%20LD%20MICRO%20Conference%20Final.pdf There are several companies experimenting with this technology. Nanoviricides is the first with a working anti-viral, but you can bet others are riding their labcoats. I expect one of these groups to crack it over next few years. The results are truly amazing and quite revolutionary. Maybe one day viruses will be a thing of the past |
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links don't work for me... I you want to see the report. Just cut and past the url.
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jacksdad
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I doubt it. For something as dumb as a virus, they've shown themselves to be much more clued in to our molecular biology than we are. Call me jaded, but I take everything that comes out of the biotech/pharmaceutical industry with a pinch of salt as it's usually a thinly veiled sales pitch.
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"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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Crying Out Loud
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Anyone who would force an individual, to get a vaccination or medical care,
through the fake courts etc. should be given a bullet to the head, execution style! These people are not Gods. They are not ethical, they are perverted, bully infested merchants. They are roadblocks, that stand in the way of individuals getting true quality healthcare. Dump them all over board! Your very survival depends upon it. |
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Satori
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we might eliminate viruses as a threat but then we'll be wiped out by runaway nano bots |
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Strategos
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It's not going to happen. The only thing man is good at is taking out man. Viruses are here for good, or so I think.
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cobber
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I sense a bit of negativity? Why?
Its freaking awesome!!! Its marketing spin agreed, but its not just one company doing this. There are six i counted trialing similar methods and many are getting results. This is a paradigm shift in treatment of viruses.
The treatment is an anti-viral and not a vaccine. There is an important difference. It's used only when you are sick and possibly at risk of dying. So most likely you will only take this if you have been exposed to a virus. I agree with the view on Vaccines... Vaccines are a huge money spinner and are a favorite of the corrupt medical mafia who push half tested vaccines on the public. The vaccine industry is somewhat in opposition to this technology. Don't get me wrong its not a case of one or the other. There is room for both technologies in this world. Vaccines play their role and need to be treated as long term solutions to viruses. Antivirals are used more for frontline defense. The technology is a anti-viral Nanocarrier used to deliver a web of protein receptors effectively smothering the virus. Older more established technology works on attacking the heart of the virus. Its quite innovative and holds a lot of promise. The link to the Nanoviricides website is not working. Just find their website and look for Investor Info section. In this section look for presentations. The one to view is "Platform for rapid development of anti-viral drugs December 2 2013." Trust me it is a mind blowing technology and if you understand viruses you will find it fascinating. |
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jacksdad
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Don't get me wrong, cobber - I'd love to see us conquer infectious diseases, but I think you have more faith in medical science, and lot less respect for viruses than I do. The biggest problem I foresee is that they mutate faster than the biotech/pharmaceutical industry can develop effective treatments and then have them approved by the FDA. If we're lucky we might stop them for a while, but I believe they'll ultimately get around ever roadblock we throw in front of them.
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i wonder if this research would help with antibiotic resistant bacteria ??
seems interesting as the idea is to close down the virus before it reproduces enough to affect the host, |
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cobber
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Did some further study on nanocarriers. And i'm pretty confident that this will bring forward other novel variants. Maybe not antibacterial drugs in its current form, but i expect nano biotech are already eyeing solutions.
The interesting part of this technology is it can still work with a mutated virus. The Nanoviricides technology operated entirely in a different manner to other anti-viral drugs. The receptors on the surface of a virus typically doesn't change with mutation. This means that the virus may change its internal structure and mutate, but the outer mechanical receptor still stays the same. Basically the Nanoviricides targets the receptor and not the internals. So using the same drug for various strains will be possible. The real genius of the technology is using two parts to make the drug. Firstly they start with a nano particle which is engineered in the lab. They can use this same particle with multiple viruses. Its like a mister potato head with out his attachments. Then they choose what parts they want to attach depending on what virus they want to attack. This is the second part the attachments. basically they bond things called ligands to the outer shell of the nano particle. Ligands are mr potatoheads arms and legs. These things grab hold of the receptors on the virus. Ligands are easy to find, produce and attach. The speed at which they can develop an antiviral is reduced from years and months down to days. Case in point they produces a working sample for the British government to combat MERS in three days. If what Nanooviricides are saying is true its something akin to the discovery of penicillin
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As the test results on this continue to be released, hopefully there will be progress but the "End of Viruses" is unlikely.
For other posters here and concerning posting links - some copy paste mechanisms tend to put in %21 for a space which will not translate in a link. This has to be manually fixed at times. |
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Medclinician - not if but when - original
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The biggest issue with drugs, any drugs, is the fact that they can be overcome in time by said viruses. if anything, this would be a short time fix.
As the case maybe, there is always hope I suppose, although I put my faith in God above where my salvation resides.
Have a good day sir.
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True this is a short term fix, but when the long term fix is death.
I'll put my faith in science thanks.
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Sorry about the title it really should have said
Is this the end of death caused by viruses?
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