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My wife is Canadian. We moved back to her home country 61/2 years ago from my native Illinois. By far the best move of my life.
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My comment about enslaving the Mexicans was a joke. 

They are people. We must remember this. I'm sure every ones forefathers at some stage were huddled starving masses in a similar position.

PS: I have a Mexican PA and she drives me crazy. Obviously I don't beat her enough : )

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Ok....back on topic for this Canadian on this thread! lol

Here is a link from before it's news talking about swine flu in the internment (oops I mean Immigration) camps... Yes, I realize submissions to Before it's News can be reactionary etc - but they do raise awareness and tend to find 'stuff' others miss by thinking outside the box. So here's the link do with it as you will

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2014/07/its-here-us-militarys-unusual-and-compelling-urgency-orders-videos-2541822.html
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Originally posted by cobber cobber wrote:

My comment about enslaving the Mexicans was a joke. 

They are people. We must remember this. I'm sure every ones forefathers at some stage were huddled starving masses in a similar position.

PS: I have a Mexican PA and she drives me crazy. Obviously I don't beat her enough : )



They are. Many are hard workers and no less decent than anyone else, especially my own self. And their food and cooking is just about my favorite. Their deserts kind of suck. -Just my opinion. But the same things can be said about any people from any country. Most people who immigrated here over the last 200 years or so came through Ellis Island and such. The ones who predate that were our Founding Fathers. Bring us your huddled masses...through Ellis Island. That goes back to a time we needed people here to form this country. It's not that we don't like Mexicans/South Americans, its that the flood of undocumenteds is massive and continuous and disregards the rules set up by our countries originators. By the time I was 24 I spent half my life in a cage for breaking the rules of our founders. (Protecting the honor of two little girls. My sister and my girlfriend.) I am direct descendant of Kilpatrick (as per my Family Tree DNA profile), who wrote the Scottish Constitution from which all constitutions derive from-including ours. I also descend from another Kilpatrick, who was a rare witness to the signing of our Declaration of Independence. Both my mother and fathers lines were here before we were a country and had their hands in our formation. Any Mexican/South American who enters properly is no less an American than myself. And I wish them well. But if this border madness isn't put under control soon, I will call on the suspension of one clause of our constitution, the arrest of Obama and a Declaration of War against Mexico.


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Yeah, very funny.
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Johnray1,

I'd say it is time to go fishing in Alaska instead.

I always thought the Canadians liked us. American's don't seem to have a problem with Canadians, so this is baffling to me.

The feelings of insecurity and inferiority make people dislike other people. Perhaps Canadians feel inferior in some way although they shouldn't. I've read that Canadian's are always comparing their country to ours so that might be the root of the problem.

I believe, though, that some people are simply born snobs.

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Elver, I never had any trouble in Canadian either until the time that I wrote about above. The people in Quebec did burn one of my trucks and the local police would not investigate,so I just never did go back to Quebec Provence. This was during one of the  times that the people in Quebec were wanting to succeed from the rest of Canada and the English speaking people told me that was the problem.-----As far as me being snobbish,I was never snobbish because I considered the Canadians the same as us,as equals,I do not any more. Many of the people in Quebec were very snobbish and the further you got away from the major cities,the worse it got. ------I really thought that the Quebec people did NOT speak English,so it made communication very difficult. Then out "Outfitter" walked in one day when were trying to talk to his family.He had 12 son's. He got real mad real quick. He started screaming at his sons and that got their attention. The Outfitter told us that all of his sons spoke and understood English and they were just being smart**** in what they were doing. He told us that almost everyone in Quebec spoke and understood English because it had been taught in the school system for years. ------Even English speaking Canadians had to switch to their maps and names to French,when they were working in Quebec,because the French speaking Quebeckers would not do business with them if they did not.---- He also told us that all 12 of his son's a and the vast majority of the younger Quebec people were ready and wanted to go to war with the English speaking Canadians to get totally independent of the rest of Canadians. I guess that the rest of Canadian wanted to be sure that they were independent of the US. That is O.K. But we should remove all of the factories and take all of the jobs out of Canada that we provide them. They could not even exist as a country, if it was not for the US. Johnray1
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Elver,I forgot something.When I would be fishing or hunting in English speaking Canada,there were many people who wanted to succeed from Canada and become part of the US. They did not like their socialist system that was developing and they said that their taxes would be much less if they became Americans. I heard this in many places and from many people,so the Canadian government probably got afraid of this kind of thinking and started ordering their officials to be rude and not helpful with Americans. I have heard no talk like this for years.Johnray1
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For sure... That must be it!!!!   All Canadians want to be Americans! Why didn't I see it sooner?   What other explanation could there be??

So wrong.... So funny....
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No way I can prove this is not true, but your account sounds like BS frankly.   We have our own issues but no one here seriously wants to be an american. We have our own ***** to deal with. Don't need yours.
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Originally posted by Guest Guest wrote:

Johnyray1
No way I can prove this is not true, but your account sounds like BS frankly.   We have our own issues but no one here seriously wants to be an american. We have our own ***** to deal with. Don't need yours.


Guest, how do you see BS in John Rays account? He's one of the very few to list his real name. How much room is there in our accounts for BS? Other than to post as "Guest"? "No way I can prove this 'is not' true, but your account sounds like BS frankly," is grammatically incorrect but doesn't constitute BS to me on your part.

And he didn't say "all Canadians". He said "many".

I lived there a short time in 1980 and I concure with John.

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Anyways, how about those ill unlawfuls? Coming to an American burger joint near you for a job any day now...

What's the differance between unlawful and illegal? ...One is a sick bird?

This thread kinda changes the whole meaning of "illegal" now.
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I'm a Canuck & no I don't want to be American (as in USA), I love my country, my province & my family/people - the exact same as you feel about your country/state/province etc - wherever that may be.

Oh & not sure who made the comment about the French Canadians hating them - but please don't take it personally - they hate every other province & its ppl too!!! Bwahahaha

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Quest,my account was true.I am talking about the account of many Canadians wanting to become part of the US. I do know if it is still true or not. I have not been there in about 10 years. I know that the people at the border really DO NOT like Americans. ------ I think that we should just close down all of our American Companies that have located in Canada (at the request of the US government) and provide jobs for many Canadians. I think we should close all of the jobs provided by US Companies watch Canada go totally broke.Johnray1
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I'd prefer (fat finger on phone)...
Ps You guys don't want to hear about my husband & I being rejected from US at border, and the fact that while sitting at border crossing - we watched the US guards give US citizens a nightmare time to return home. Their are good, bad & ugly (aka power trippers) in every job in all parts of the world.... Just how it is,
Too bad 1 bad crossing guard ruined it for you when you said you'd been up many times - obviously the other times were good... Me - I'm part mule - they reject me & I just try again!
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Quest, I also know Cardiologists that(in the US) along the Canadian border who make a living seeing Canadians for the the Canadian government,because your healthcare system can not take  care of it's own people. I could say more that is true,but enough is enough. I did most of my clinical training in FL and FL filled up with Canadians every winter that had put off getting health care until they came south for the winter. Johnray1
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That's garbage and simply not tue. Google 'canadian doctor schools us senator' and watch the video.
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Saskabush that is not garbage and it is true.I know these people personally. As a matter of fact,the Canadian government pays  them more than what their standard fees are. They like the arrangement.Johnray1
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It's garbage. Watch the video.
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Snowbirds (retired Canadians)definitely DO NOT flock to Florida for health care!!! In fact, they AVOID the US if they have any health issues as if they got sick while in Florida, the costs would bankrupt them.
You suggesting anything different confirms that you have no idea what you are talking about. Any Canadian on this forum will confirm.
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My girlfriend and I met Bo Strange Mortil in Vancouver in 1980. We were both runaways (15). He took us into his posh bayside home for a month before sneaking us over the US border. But before doing so, one thing he told me was he travels infrequently to the US for....medical treatment. Granted, this was a long time ago, 34 years.


Brunhuber 08:59 PM 01-05-2008
An excerpt from a story in today's Vancouver Sun by David Baines, relentless Bodog nemesis.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/bu...23-aee43f602699


"Right from the beginning, there were signs that this company was going to become a tarbaby for shareholders. One sign was the board, which initially consisted of:

Bo Strange Mortil and Peter Bell, previously involved in two other bio-medical busts, Bicer Medical Systems (artificial heart valves) and Bioject Medical Systems (needleless syringes).

Larry Reaugh, a Vancouver mining promoter who a year earlier had been convicted of illegal insider trading and fined $1,000 in connection with his main VSE endeavour, Rea Gold Corp.

Arthur Dalfen of Bermuda, who helped notorious stock fraudster Irving Kott run First Commerce Securities, an Amsterdam boiler-room operation that was shut down by Dutch authorities in 1986".
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Very unusual name, Bo! And in a strange twist, he has earlier ties to BoDog's own Calvin Ayre. And , lo and behold, Bo lives in Costa Rica. Strange! Bo Strange Mortil. What a name.
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Johnray1
Personally knowing Cardiologists, Climatologists, maybe Cosmetologists and Criminologists as well!!!
Impressive...
Even more so given that you live in West Virginia!!!
Hee, hee....
Just kidding!!! Lol

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Saskabush,I do not remember saying that I knew any Cosmetologists or Criminologists. But as far as me knowing the people that I do and that being very strange to you because I live in West Virgina,there is something that you need to know. Once any one learns to read and gets old enough to travel. You can read books from anywhere and you can also travel to any where to meet and talk to people. I do live in West Virginia now and I was born here,but I have lived in many states and taken training in many Ivory Tower hospitals. While I was in training, I made it a point to find out which hospitals were the best in different fields and that is where I would go for that part of my training. ------I was also a helicopter pilot in the US Army and I flew one tour of duty in Vietnam, I volunteered to go to Vietnam. That will probably make most Canadians hate me by itself,but I did a good job for my country.. But believe me or not,what I said is true. I would give you the Cardiologists names but I think that I would be out of line to do that.------ Now back to me being from West Virginia,one reason that I am glad that I am home is that I could quit wearing those damn shoes,they hurt my feet. My wife was also glad to get home and kick her shoes of to. I think that from your name that you use,that you are from an area that is very sparsely populated and I suspect that there are a lot people who live there who are not real smart, but that does not mean that you not real smart. I suspect that you very smart and you have probably had to leave the Provence that you live in to get higher education and probably at more than one place. What is the difference?-------- I do not think that I will ever need to know a Cosmetologist and if I ever need to know a Criminologist, I will find one that is tops in the field and I will learn from them. ----------- I always wanted to train in Forensic Pathology,but I just plane run out of time and I had to go to work to support my family. I wish you the very best and I would advise you to wear wool clothes in the winter time-----There is a saying in the far north country that"cotton kills" and this is true because cotton makes you sweat and then when you stop your activity,the sweat freezes and you die of hypothermia. And yes,believe it or not,I have spent time in the far north of this continent. Johnray1
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Well, no... Not many leave here. We have one of the few university campuses on the face of the planet that encompass all of the health sciences - medical, pharmaceutical, dental and veterinarian.
We also are the home of the Canadian Light Beam Source (a synchrotron), one of only a handful worldwide.
Our unemployment rate is the lowest in Canada. Young families are flocking here from all over the world. We embrace and accepted the richness that different cultures and religions bring. It is sooo awesome!!!
My point is that people come here from all over the world to be educated.
I have personally travelled extensively, as have most of my friends and colleagues. Having said that, we are still,prairie folk and try to,live our lives helping out.
We are not a pacifist country, unlike the steryotype held my many Americans. We have always punched above our weight in world conflict. Google Vimy Ridge.
My father was a WW2 vet and I grew up in a neighbourhood devoted to veterans. The stories I could tell about sacrifice would break your heart. As a nation, during the Second World War, we had lost thousands of young men before your country even came to the plate.
Your comments and your grammar indicate to me that you are a poser.... No way you personally know Cardiologists and Climatologists ( the Criminologists and cosmetologist reference was a sarcastic reference!!).
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Johnray1-   You are joking , right. Your not serious are you?? Is this a joke????
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Guest,is what a joke? Johnray1
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Saskabush,I keep trying to get along with   and you keep calling me a liar. First,I do not know what a poser is? But I am for real and if you diagnosis my grammar as being bad,you are correct because I went to grade school and high school in WV. But every thing that I have said is true and if you insist on not believing me,that is your lose ,not mine.Plus, I have never seen or heard of any University complex That has the best and the top people in every field. It is not possible. I knew that the Cosmetologist and Criminologist names were used to try to trick me and prove to everyone that I did not know what either one was,but that did not work.-----Just like you say that you have traveled extensively but you are still just prairie folk, why can I not have travel extensively and still just be mountain folk,because that is what I am. I would ask that you quit being sarcastic to me. I do not like it and you should be a better person than that.One more thing,what is so unusual about knowing a few Cardiologist. I know several Cardiologist,Radiologist,Internist, Surgeons and any other medical specialty that you want to talk about.So what is so unusual about knowing some Cardiologist? the Climatologist came along with military training and the Air Force sent them in. But I would like to know what a poser is? Johnray1
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Saskabush,After I think about it a little while. I am a Doctor. Every Doctor that I know,no matter what their field is,they all know several doctors in other fields. What is so unusual about that?Johnray1
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BORDER CONTROL AGENT: DISEASES COMING IN WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN DECADES


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Monday on Fox News Channel's "America's Newsroom," the VP of the Border Patrol Union, Chris Cabrea told host Martha MacCallum "a lot of our guys" are coming down with diseases.
"Coming off the long journey they have been subjected to and then diseases some agents are contracting. We had one get bacterial pneumonia a couple days ago," Cabrea said. "A lot of our guys are coming down with scabies or lice."
Cabrea added: "The border patrol is trying to play catch up and we're having a lot of diseases coming in and some we haven't seen in decades and we are worried they'll spread throughout the United States especially if they are being released and have the disease."

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Originally posted by Saskabush Saskabush wrote:

Snowbirds (retired Canadians)definitely DO NOT flock to Florida for health care!!! In fact, they AVOID the US if they have any health issues as if they got sick while in Florida, the costs would bankrupt them.
You suggesting anything different confirms that you have no idea what you are talking about. Any Canadian on this forum will confirm.


AMEN!!!!!

NOW PLEASE ENOUGH WITH THE CANADA BASHING!!!!! Whether in jest or in seriousness, I for one have had enough! Every system (country) has strong points & week points, & every where there are good and bad people... can we PLEASE get back on topic with this thread. Honestly at this point if it wasn't for so much GOOD information on this site, this crazy Canuck would leave and not come back!!! ENOUGH!!!   
Thank You OneFluOver for posting link on border patrol/guards getting sick - this is a scary situation....

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I agree. There is not and should never be a fight between Canada and the US. We have reletively few differences. We have our own borders and not all issues have been rosey -but none of the border issues of our south. Mexican/South Americans in general do not like us, they are invading our country to first gouge us and then to take over control and then to self-destruct us. If they can destroy the US as we know it then they have won. It's the land they want. Or as they would put it, want back. -Not our system. And I am slightly sorry but they do carry a high per capita of disease. And they are an unjustly violent people. Look at Juarez Mexico for instance. Worlds highest murder rate. Right on our border. In 1980 LA had ~400 murders. NYC ~1000. Vancouver BC....5...! Canada is an admirable country. We would be wise to continue and strengthen our alliance in the face of this southern madness.
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Lest we forget.

Ray Stevens does it again:

www.youtube.com/embed/WgOHOHKBEqE?feature=player_detailpage
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WND EXCLUSIVE
COULD EBOLA SNEAK ACROSS U.S. BORDER?
Africans passing through Mexico raise new flags in 'out of control' outbreak
Published: 1 day ago
DREW ZAHN

The Ebola virus presents a particularly nasty way to die.

"Early symptoms of the disease include … sudden fever, chills and muscle aches,” the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC, explains. “Around the fifth day after onset of symptoms, a skin rash can occur. Nausea, vomiting, chest pain, a sore throat, abdominal pain and diarrhea may follow. Symptoms become increasingly severe and may include jaundice, severe weight loss, mental confusion, shock and multi-organ failure.”

There is no known cure or vaccine for the virus, and as many as 90 percent of those who contract the disease die from it.

But what are the odds of it infecting the U.S.? And could the porous southern border provide an avenue for Ebola to enter the country?

Though no case of the disease has ever been reported in the U.S., the World Health Organization admits the current outbreak in Western Africa – which has infected at least two Americans working in relief efforts there – is the worst on record. Doctors Without Borders warns the outbreak is “out of control.”

So far, the current outbreak has infected over 1,200 people and killed at least 672 in nearly a dozen countries in Western Africa, where fruit bats are thought to be the natural host of the virus, and the disease spreads through close contact with the infected or their bodily fluids.

But travel authorities and news outlets were alarmed over the weekend when a Liberian man infected with Ebola boarded a plane and brought the disease to Lagos, Nigeria, Africa’s largest city, with 21 million people.

The current outbreak, Reuters reports, is the first time that Ebola has appeared in heavily populated urban areas and international travel hubs.

So far, the CDC is dismissing worries of the disease reaching U.S. shores.

“There is no significant risk in the U.S.,” a CDC statement declared Monday. “While it is unlikely that the disease would spread if imported into the United States, the recent infections in U.S. healthcare workers working abroad highlight the need for vigilance. CDC is reminding U.S. healthcare workers of the importance of testing and isolating sick travelers returning from the affected areas.”

In fact, two U.S. health-care workers – Dr. Kent Brantly, a 32-year-old family practice physician working in Liberia with Christian relief organization Samaritan’s Purse and Nancy Writebol, a volunteer working out of the same facility with the relief organization SIM – have contracted the disease while working abroad.

What’s more alarming, however, are reports confirmed by the National Border Patrol Council, or NBPC, and United Nations that some of the detainees apprehended attempting to enter the U.S. illegally are from Africa – where the Ebola outbreak is thriving.

After a group of adult males from the three Asian nations was apprehended at the U.S. border over the weekend, Albert Spratte, a spokesman for Local 3307 of the NBPC, reiterated that the Rio Grande is being crossed by more than just Central Americans.

“This should be a reminder to the public that unaccompanied minors and family units are not the only ones crossing into the U.S. illegally,” Spratte told Breitbart News. “On the same day, I also witnessed 3-4 Chinese females at the processing station. The media are concentrating on the Central American families and minors, and they are not covering the fact that we are still getting people, often adult males, who are coming from other nations.”

In 2012, the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime released a report confirming, “Central Americans are not the only ones being smuggled through Mexico to the United States. Irregular migrants from the Horn of Africa (Eritrea, Somalia, and Ethiopia), as well as South Asia (Bangladesh, Nepal, India), China, and other African and Asian states are being smuggled through Central America.”

“Border Patrol agents in our sector have in the past apprehended aliens from Iraq, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Israel and from many other nations,” Spratte continued. “People think this is just about Mexico and Central America, but it isn’t. People from all over the world are trying to sneak into the United States.”

As WND has reported, several health experts are already sounding the alarm over a rash of diseases crossing America’s southern border with the recent flood of illegal immigrants.

Despite Department of Homeland Security assurances that it has “health controls in place to minimize any possible health risks,” including health screenings for detainees, U.S. Border Patrol sources reveal those screenings only come after processing, exposing the agents themselves to any diseases the detainees may be carrying.

Chris Cabrera, a spokesman for the National Border Patrol Council, for example, is concerned about the spread of scabies among both immigrants and those working with them.

“A lot of people [are] coming in with the disease,” Cabrera told a local TV station, “and it seems to be spreading, not just within the McAllen [Texas] station, but throughout the [Rio Grande] Valley and to some of our agents.”

A spokesperson for the CDC told WND the Center isn’t directly involved in patient care for the tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors crossing the border, but referred to WND to the Administration for Children and Families, or ACF, instead.

“If it is determined that children have certain communicable diseases or have been exposed to such communicable diseases, they are placed in a program or facility that has the capacity to quarantine,” ACF spokesman Kenneth Wolfe told WND. “Children with serious health conditions are treated at local hospitals. The cost of this care is fully paid by the federal government.”

“Recently, HHS took additional measures to ensure that children previously screened, vaccinated and medically cleared while in Customs and Border Protection (CBP) custody had not fallen ill while pending transport to Unaccompanied Alien Children program facilities,” he added. “CBP medical providers already check flight manifests against children who were identified as sick overnight; if there are any concerns, children destined for a DoD installation are pulled from the flight. Under the updated protocol, HHS staff also take the children’s temperatures shortly before flights. Any child with a fever and cough or sore throat is pulled from the flight, isolated from others and seen by a medical professional.”

CDC sources repeatedly insist the U.S. is in no significant danger of an Ebola outbreak.

Dr. Stephan Monroe, deputy director of CDC National Center for Emerging & Zoonotic Diseases, further told reporters Monday even if a case did show up in the U.S., he expects it would be contained by the basic practices of Western medicine.

“We’re confident the standard care of U.S. [hospitals] would prevent much of the transmission would a case show up here,” Monroe said.

Nonetheless, the CDC also maintains an “interim guidance” release on the disease for airlines, the Bureau of Customs and Border Patrol and the Transportation Security Administration, or TSA.

Among the guidelines are for airline personnel to keep people suspected of having the disease from “close contact” with other people.

“Examples of close contact include kissing or embracing, sharing eating or drinking utensils, close conversation (less than 3 feet), physical examination and any other direct physical contact between persons,” the guidelines clarify. “Close contact does not include activities such as walking by a person or briefly sitting across a room.”

The CDC also told reporters Monday that a Level 2 alert was being issued, recommending those traveling to Africa “avoid contact with blood and bodily fluids.”


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Illegal immigrant kids exposed federal agents to lice, scabies, tuberculosis and chicken pox, report says
 
August 01, 2014
 

Unaccompanied illegal immigrant children with communicable diseases have given or exposed federal agents to lice, scabies, tuberculosis and chicken pox, according to a report issued Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General.

In two cases, the children of a border patrol agent got chicken pox contracted from their parents’ exposure to unaccompanied children with chicken pox, according to the report on conditions of detention centers and border facilities.

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The report, the first in a series, is based on 87 unannounced visits to 63 detention centers being used to house unaccompanied alien children (UAC) in Texas, Arizona and California during July 1-16.

“Many UAC and family units require treatment for communicable diseases, including respiratory illnesses, tuberculosis, chicken pox, and scabies,” said the memorandum summarizing the report.

“UAC and family unit illnesses and unfamiliarity with bathroom facilities resulted in unsanitary conditions and exposure to human waste in some holding facilities.

“DHS employees reported exposure to communicable diseases and becoming sick on duty. For example, during a recent site visit to the Del Rio USBP Station and Del Rio Port of Entry, CBP personnel reported contracting scabies, lice, and chicken pox.

“Two CBP Officers reported that their children were diagnosed with chicken pox within days of the CBP Officers' contact with a UAC who had chicken pox. In addition, USBP personnel at the Clint Station and Santa Teresa Station reported that they were potentially exposed to tuberculosis.”

Sources previously told FoxNews.com of multiple instances in which Border Patrol agents were exposed to tuberculosis—and one instance in which an agent contracted a severe case of tuberculosis from illegal immigrants in his care.

Other sources told FoxNews.com that swine flu has been found at several detention centers in Texas.

According to the OIG report, one of the detention centers being used to house unaccompanied children did not have a trained medical tech on site and four did not provide detainees access to prescription medication.

OIG agents checked the sites for sanitation, availability of medical care, food services and other factors. Sites and their staff were found to be largely in compliance with rules and regulations.

The memo also reveals that DHS OIG is investigating a June 11 complaint to DHS Officer for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties and DHS OIG filed by the ACLU on behalf of 116 unaccompanied alien children.

The office currently is investigating 16 of those allegations while separate offices are investigating the others.

During their detention site visits, OIG agents did not observe misconduct or inappropriate conduct by DHS employees nor did they receive new complaints from any of the randomly interviewed unaccompanied children.

The OIG also found that the data system used by CBP to comply with the required documentation of the arrests and care and release of unaccompanied children was unreliable because of frequent system outages causing inconsistent reporting.

CBP’s data system is supposed to be used to track compliance with guidelines including meal times per day, phone usage, detainee medical conditions and detainee arrests and releases from CBP custody. 

OIG recommended Immigration and Customs Enforcement  find the resources needed to fix the system.

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