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Posted: October 04 2014 at 8:51pm |
Not too long ago, when I mentioned Ebola being a potential Plague situation, I was ignored
or told that I was merely in one of my so called visions. I will be up front. I did not know. But, someone on an unconscious level did know...something. I have been concerned for many, many years that people would not ready themselves for a series of events, that may need to take place, in order to put an end to the artificial thrones and power structures, that have been robbing and brutalizing families, and have taken over this atmosphere. I have asked myself over and over, "How will those close to me, or others I care about, recognize signs that will be manifest, in order for them to take some precautions. To be prepared." Now, with the Ebola situation in Dallas, Texas I recognize that this one event, could be the evidence needed to convince families to get ready. I do not profess or pretend to know anything more than anyone of you. However, lets look at the possibilities. From around the world, people are very interested and alert to the events happening in relation to Mr. Duncan. There is now proof, that this disease can and will get into all areas of the world. Governments, scientists, medical experts and others have shown that they are not as prepared as they have so arrogantly claimed. A Judge on live camera, thought he would be the light of reason, as he walked into the contaminated apartment to personally escort the high risk family members to their vehicle, and to ride with them. This Judge wanted the world to know that we are safe. He said that he felt so safe around these quarantined people, that he did not have a problem being in close proximity, even in an enclosed car. He said that he had a wife and 9 year old daughter that he would be returning to after he performed this act of bravery for all the world to see. Perhaps he has nothing to fear. Maybe the angel of death will pass him by. But what if it does not? If people die, that will really awaken people, all over the world. If more of this family, health care workers and school children become infected and die, people will act. They will not want to be in a situation where they have no food or supplies. People react, when they see a real threat to their very life, or the lives of their loved ones. This could be the evidence that is needed to kick them into gear. Mr. Duncan may be the first messenger. Just a thought. |
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onefluover
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You are right A. You've been right about much. Your points above are fine proof of that. I'm listening. Please continue.
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"And then there were none."
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ViQueen24
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I'm listening too, Astrologic.
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Elver
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To encourage prepping all you have to do is recite these 4 statements.
1) If you don't prepare and nothing happens, then you're OK. 2) If you prepare and nothing happens, then you're still OK. 3) If you prepare and SHTF, then you're much better off than you would have been had you not prepared and it might possibly save your life. 4) If SHTF and you don't prepare, you're absolutely 100% screwed. Now, which one of those would you like to take a chance on? |
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arirish
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Elver- Your premise makes prefect sense to all of us! The problem is, most people have what I call the teen syndrome, they don't believe they will ever die and they don't want to even think about it. They won't even save for retirement! They're not going to prep!
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Buy more ammo!
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Technophobe
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Common sense is the most miss-described thing in the universe! There is absolutely nothing common about sense.
You are spot on Astro' but people are not going to change. Believe me I've tried. I suspect a feeling of complacency is necessary for sanity in some (maybe most) cases. If people realised just how many threats there are out there, they would be unable to function at all. Just look at how people treat their children. They are protected from lifes truths. Wheareas it is important to protect children, who cannot protect themselves yet, from harm, we go on to protect them from seeing or hearing the real world, which actually does them no favours in the long run. Statements like: "Let them have a childhood." and "Not in front of the children." are the norm. That spills over into adult life. By the time they have grown up they have developed no toughness and not learned to look at the horrors rationally. Worse many have not even learned to face the consequences of their own actions, leading to criminality and cruelty. By adulthood most people are too set in their ways to change. So, for now there is really nothing you can do. You can not change an ostrich into an eagle. A small start could be made by making a point of reading "The Little Red Hen" and similar stories to the kids at the local pre-school. But a sea change will only occur after a disaster. |
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving. |
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Arirish and Tecno you are both so right.
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Albert
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Good posts - and good topic Astro.
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WillobyBrat
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Astro' I will give you an example here of stupidity, which is not really anything to do with the subjects covered so far, but it is a good example.
I have a friend who has a tendancy to be over-religous and has a "God will get us out of the $hit" syndrome, who also thinks my prepping is insane. He and I got into a slightly heated discussion about UFOs, which he said are a load of rubbish as there is no proof of their existence whatsoever. I pointed out to him that said objects have simultaneously been observed by thousands of people, photographed electronically, videoed and photographed with film cameras, traced on radar, observed through military aircraft gun-sights, tracked on FLIR and have, on other occasions, collided with aircraft causing the destruction thereof. Particles of them have been collected and the isotopes of the metals from which they have been manufactured have been analysed, revealing an extraterrestrial origin. I would consider the above to be substantial evidence, it is at least as great as the evidence for ebola or the existance of the local postman. Now, you can present the stupid, the slow witted, the ostrich mentality of the masses and just the average guy down the road with all the evidence in the world but because he is afraid of his own lack-of-control of his environment and that around him which can and does endanger himself, his family and their way of life, he will ignore it. He will not hear, see or in any way register the evidence of his own senses. This form of fear is caused by the very nature of our existance. We are basically tribalistic apes who allow one big powerfull ape (government) to think for us, protect us and save us from harm. Unfortunately, helping the big apes are a lot of medium sized apes (quangoes, NGOs etc.) which are there for their innate ability to come up with bright ideas that stop public disquiet. These are not usually the brightest of our species. Fortunately, my assessment of the people involved in this website and its sisters is that their intelligence, common sense and desire to express their own ethos and natural individuality (as opposed to following the herd) is far greater than that of the general public. It is also fortunate that many of us live in a society which allows the bearing of arms and the free dissemination of information as a part of a written constitution. That is why most of you can see the wood for the trees and will survive to re-establish civilisation even in the event of a genuine apocalypse. |
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Albert
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good post Willoby. You're well spoken, you're entire family is for that matter. Good post. No doubt that this place attracts the smartest common folk out there.
That judge was stupid to do that, and it sends the wrong message to the public. These types of things will cause a revolt in future home isolation and quarantine measures as people may not understand why, since the message in that is that there is no danger from Ebola. Now if that Judge gets sick, yes, a panic beyond biblical proportions. The virus seems to be mutating in the direction of becoming infectious prior to symptoms. It may even be infectious a day or two before symptoms "fully" manifest, so sharing a couple of water with someone exposed a week ago is a very foolish idea. That first sneeze can also be a killer for someone else. People will prepare when the time is right. All of your friends will get their prepping done in time. Until then, what we all learn here first will be our head start on everybody around us. They will look to you all for guidance when the time arrives. Just say to them, "I told you, now leave me alone as I have work to do". |
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Yes Astro a great post. Thanks
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You to Willoby. .
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Unfortunately, when it comes to prepping these days, people think that as long as Walmart is open they are well prepped,
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Trisha
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I've been a member for quite a while but for the most part have "tuned in" when the world makes me nervous. I prepped for Y2K and the bird flu and tried to convince my family and friends to do the same, especially for the bird flu. I always try to be prepared for an event anyway. Now that ebola is happening I'm trying to talk to everyone about getting prepared again. They either give me a hard time or actually laugh at me. They remind me that the bird flu never happened and everything they hear in the media suggests that ebola is easily contained in this country. They just don't get that the longer they wait the more difficult it will be Even my husband thinks I'm nuts. However, he understands that when I feel especially nervous I need to go shopping to get something, even something small, to add to my store. This is the only place that I find sanity. The media and the government wouldn't have to be concerned about creating a panic if they educated the public, on a regular basis, about being prepared for a disaster. These are dangerous times in a dangerous world and we need to be able to rely on ourselves for survival.. There should be reminders and suggestions to help the general public understand how to best do that. Sometimes I wonder what the ultimate goal of those in power is.
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ParanoidMom
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Excellent point Trisha. I keep thinking about how schools would do "Duck and Cover" drills during the Cold War. Also, the black-out sirens going off during World War II. Our country kept the citizens involved and well aware of dangers. The mind set of the people was completely different.
In a very short period of time the "masses" have been programmed to believe the government will take care of everything and they don't need to be involved in their own wellbeing. Things are to the point where being prepared makes you look like you're too stupid to understand that everything is taken care of. I, too, prepared for Y2K. Nothing happened and I was laughed at. However, I realized how secure I felt. We've had small personal emergencies where having extra on hand made life much better. I suggest making up a car bin for all of those you worry about (a good Chistmas present if you celebrate it). You will most likely hear about something that was used from the bin. It is at that point you can talk about how good it was to have whatever it was on hand. Talking to people ahead of time is usually useless. When they have had a personal experience they are usually much more receptive. |
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But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of the Lord
Wisdom of Solomon 3:1 |
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Trisha,
First of all, great name! ;) I live on the east coast of Canada. While my sisters are Facebook addicts, I'm a nerd and spend my online hours here and (for years) on the NOAA website. I could see hurricanes coming a couple of weeks in advance (location of depressions off the coast of Africa, sea temps, jet stream etc.), and knew they could also change course at the last moment. So when I warned my sisters and friends of a hurricane that narrowly missed us, they all laughed and called me crazy. Then when I warned of one that actually hit us, they still laughed.. until it was on top of us. After it hit, not so much laughter. They now listen if it looks like a hurricane might hit, because they have experienced it and know it could happen. I tried talking to them about pandemic possibility, but in their blissful ignorance I'm still a nutjob. Hopefully, this time next year, they'll still think I'm crazy. This is something I never want to be right about. Trish |
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Trisha
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Thank you ParanoidMom for your lovely suggestion. Gifting prep supplies for Christmas is a great idea. My kids
And their families live a few hours away so I'll need to do some planning. It will certainly make my holiday happier. |
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ParanoidMom
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You're more than welcome Trisha. You can even make smaller versions using a recycled can or jar for co-workers. Hit up the local dollar store and use things like small hand sanitizer, individual tissue packs, 2 pill packs of acetaminophen or ibuprofen, some cough drops, a tea bag, and whatever else you can think of. You can cover a lot of people for a small investment. And the best part is when they use any of it you once again have the opportunity to talk preparedness .
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But the souls of the righteous are in the hand of the Lord
Wisdom of Solomon 3:1 |
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Trisha
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You are absolutely right Trish. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong again. Also, last time I had to throw a lot of food away, even those that were good for ten tears like tuna. This time I'm going to try to be smarter and
keep using and replacing food. Also, if things turn out all right, because I have more than usual, I would donate some to the local Food Pantry before it expires. I'm definitely going to check out your storm sight. I live on the coast and have been taken by surprise more than once. Thank you so much for that. Trisha |
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Good point Trisha. Anyone can go to the local food pantries to get prep food and other supplies.
Don't run to the pantry when you are in trouble, go before you are in need, to avoid being unprepared. Also, whenever you are out running errands, stop by the fast food places. Get plenty of napkins and condiments. Think like a progressive free loader, and load! Churches want to save you. Stop buy and pick up some saving preps. If anyone has any other ideas on how to get free supplies, to load up on....please share. |
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Excellent advice - the small packets are great in the event of an extended power failure if you're not able to keep large containers of condiments refrigerated |
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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Rice and beans are cheap at sams. I encourage people by telling them about aft and other sites. Pointing out how little rice and beans are. I don't push too hard. Just give a nudge, mention a current event kind of thing. They will or they won't.
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Elver
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I've had people tell me that I shouldn't read all that bad stuff on the internet.
My favorite reply is this; "I'm not going to stick my head in the sand for anybody." |
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