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    Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:24am

Azerbaijan warns of new bird flu outbreak

20:47 | 24/ 03/ 2006
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BAKU, March 24 (RIA Novosti, Gerai Dadashev) - The head of Azerbaijan's veterinary service said Friday that there was a high probability of a fresh outbreak of bird flu during the spring bird-migration season.

Following World Health Organization confirmation that five out of seven people earlier infected with bird flu in Azerbaijan had died, Ismail Gasanov said disturbing reports about growing risks were coming in from some parts of the country. He added that domestic poultry would be vaccinated and control over poultry farms would be tightened.

At the same time he said there were substantially fewer wildfowl deaths in the republic because migratory birds were already leaving the country.

Veterinary services have destroyed 26,000 dead wild birds since the latest outbreak began.

The WHO said Thursday that tests conducted by experts showed that all the seven people known to have been infected with the potentially lethal H5N1 strain of the virus had fallen ill after coming into contact with wild birds.

There was some good news, though, as a 10-year-old boy has recovered and been discharged from the hospital, while a 15-year-old girl is still being treated.

Earlier this month, Azerbaijan confirmed the deaths of three people, who like the recent victims came from two villages in the east of the country.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20060324/44784513.html
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I do not know if this is a new case or one that has been listed above.
 
One Infected with Bird Flu Receives Treatment in Hospital

24/03/2006 21:40


15-year-old resident of Salyan region still receives treatment in hospital. Her tests made in London laboratory proved to be H5N1 positive.

http://www.bakutoday.net/view.php?d=18458


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    NUMBER OF BIRD DEATHS DECREASED

March 23, 2006, 21:34:10

Baku, 23 March (AzerTAg). The number of bird deaths has significantly decreased to 3-5 a day, Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources Huseyngulu Bagirov said. Bird deaths have been recently registered in Absheron peninsular and area of Gilazi.

Because of the spring bird migration season, which ends in late April, the Ministry is now engaged in compilation of data concerning the countries from which migrant birds can come flying, epidemiological situation in those countries and spread of bird flu.


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I only want to add this because I was reading through the WHO report about were these outbreaks are occuring ...and WHO says they are on holiday well this is what I found out about the holiday they have and it is celebrated in many countries...
 
I knwo religion is not a part of the disscussion this artical is just to point out a fact of kids going door to door for treats...
 
Celebrated on the first day of Spring, Novruz is the favourite holiday in Azerbaijan, and remains a strong tradition also in Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey and in central Asia. It has a remarkable endurance and survival capacity, being of non Islamic origin it managed to retain its importance after the Arab conquest and in this century survived Soviet attempts to destroy it.

Novruz, from the Farsi 'new day', is a celebration of the spring Equinox (which marks the new year in Iran). It has been celebrated by all the major cultures of ancient Mesopotamia. Sumerians, 3000BC, Babylonians 2000 BC, the ancient kingdom of Elam in Southern Persia 2000BC, Akaddians all have been celebrating it in one form or another. What we have today as Novruz  has been celebrated for at least 3000 years and is deeply rooted in the traditions of Zoroastrian belief system.

This was the religion of Ancient Persia before the advent of Islam 1400 years ago. It is known as the mother religion in the area. The familiar concepts of Hell, Heaven, Resurrection, coming of the Messiah, individual and last judgment were for the first time incorporated into this belief system. They still exist in Judo-Christian and Islamic traditions.

Zoroaster the architect of Zoroatrianism introduced many feasts, festivals and rituals to pay homage to the seven creations and the holly immortals. Seven were amongst the most important. They are known as Gahambars, feasts of obligation. The last and the most elaborate was Novruz, celebrating the Lord of Wisdom and the holly fire at the time of spring equinox.

What we have today as Novruz goes back to the Sassanid period. They were the last great Persian Empire before the advent of Islam 1400 years ago. Their celebrations would start five days prior to the New Year. They believed the guardian angles would come down to earth within these five days to visit their human counter parts. A major spring-cleaning was carried out to welcome them with feasts and celebrations. Bon fires would be set on rooftops at night to indicate to the guardian angles that humans were ready to receive them. This was called Suri Festival.

At its core, the Novruz festival celebrates the awakening of the natural life. This awakening symbolizes the triumph of good, winning against the evil forces of darkness that are represented by the Winter. Novruz is the point when the oppressive presence of the cold Winter finally begins to retrieve with the commencement of the lively and hopeful Spring. This symbolic and poetic change corresponds to the mathematical instance of the sun leaving the zodiac of Pisces and entering the zodiacal sign of Aries, also known as the Spring Equinox.

As implied by its timing and natural significance, Novruz is a time of renewal and symbolizes rebirth, awakening, cleanliness and newness. Trees are pruned, fileds are cleared. A tradition is the annual Novruz cleaning. Families wash their rugs and draperies, clean and wax their furniture and often repaint their homes' interior. An almost iconic tradition associated with Nowrooz is when every person buys at least one set of new clothes, families visit elders and friends in their new clothes. Several things are used to symbolize the occasion, in Azerbaijan sprouted wheat is a favourite.

The celebrations begin four weeks before the actual day of Novruz. These four weeks - or, exactly four Wednesdays - are each devoted to one of the four elements and called correspondingly. On the last Wednsday before Novruz people light bonfires and jump over them, as in similar Spring festivities in Europe. Tradition holds that the living are visited by the spirits of their ancestors on the last days of the year. Children symbolically reenact the visits. They jump over bonfires and run through the streets, banging on pots and pans with spoons and knocking on doors to ask for treats. This ritual is called qashogh-zany and reenacts the beating out of the last unlucky Wednesday of the year.

The menu varies from a great deal from region to region, but for Novruz abundant meals are prepared and ritually seven objects are laid on the tables. Children enjoy this holiday very much, since they get present from their elders, often in the form of money.

Note: you'll come across several spellings for Novruz: Nowrooz, Nowruz, Noruz, No Ruz

 
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Wouldn't you think that someone in the hospital with suspected bird flu would be tested immediately?  How can someone be there long enough to recover and be released and still be only "suspected"?

We hear all sorts of numbers of people with flu symptoms and suspected cases, but never see whether or not they tested positive or negative. 
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Maryk... This story is from a YEAR AGO. 
 
We have been caught by this before... something about the search engine or search aggregate used.. pulls the month and day but ignores the year.
 
Thank you for being on the look out for this sort of news.  It takes us all to be vigilant.
 
Please don't feel bad!  You weren't the first and you won't be the last!
 
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Bird flu hits central province, 195 locals show flu symptoms
A commune in central Vietnam has been severely hit by the bird flu, with 195 patients showing flu symptoms and two children testing positive with the virus, reported a top provincial official.

Two siblings from the province’s Chau Hoa commune of Quang Binh province had tested positive for the H5N1 strain of bird flu, said Mai Xuan Thu, vice chairman of the provincial People’s Committee on March 20.

The older sister, Hoang Lan Huong, 13, died from the bird flu on March 9, while the brother, Hoang Trong Duong, 5, is in serious condition at the Hue Central Hospital.

BIRD FLU RECURRENCE

Vietnam confirms 5-year-old boy tests positive for bird flu
Vietnam reports one more suspected bird flu case
Concerns mount as Chinese chickens illegally flow into Vietnam
Vietnam nurse tested negative of bird flu

Meanwhile, there are 195 other local residents who have shown symptoms of the flu, said Ms. Thu.

It is not yet clear whether these people, some of who had reportedly eaten sick chickens, have the symptoms of the deadly bird flu or the normal flu.

Of the 195 patients showing symptoms, 108 are from Kinh Chau village while the rest live in other villages in Chau Hoa commune.

The outbreak hit the province’s Kinh Chau village in Chau Hoa commune just ahead of the Lunar New Year holidays which started Feb. 9.

The province is currently trying to stop the spread of the influenza by culling all poultry in the commune.

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Someone forgot to tell the virus in Baku, that it's not suppose to be that easy to infect someone's lungs.
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And this reported this morning . . .


Teenager taken to Baku hospital with suspected bird flu

BAKU. March 23 (Interfax) - A teenager has been hospitalized in Baku with suspected bird flu, the Azerbaijani Health Ministry press service told Interfax on Thursday.

"A fifteen-year-old girl from the Salyan district was taken to Baku's Clinic No. 2 with suspected bird flu," press service head Samaya Mamedova said.

The condition of the patient is serious but stable, she said.

Another patient with suspected bird flu has recovered and been discharged from hospital, Mamedova said.

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Fear grips Azerbaijan bird flu region
22 Mar 2006 17:56:53 GMT
Source: Reuters


SALYAN, Azerbaijan, March 22 (Reuters) - The village at the centre of Azerbaijan's human bird flu outbreak is so gripped by fear that local people refused to attend the victims' funerals for fear of getting ill, a villager said on Wednesday.

Four of the five victims of bird flu in Azerbaijan were from the village of Daikend in the Salyan region of southern Azerbaijan. Two young women and a boy were members of the same extended family. A third girl was a family friend.

    "No one went to the funerals of those girls," said Ilham Salamov, who lives in Daikend and had come into the regional capital Salyan, about 20 km (13 miles) away.

"Everyone is afraid. There is panic in the village. Everyone is scared about bird flu."

Missing a neighbour's funeral is considered deeply shameful in rural Azerbaijan, where traditional Muslim values hold strong.

"I am afraid my children will also get ill and I am afraid to let them go to school.

I have forbidden them from going near the Askerov family (to which three of the victims belonged)," said Salamov.Officials from the World Health Organisation (WHO) said the outbreak seems to have stabilised in Azerbaijan -- a mainly Muslim republic that borders Russia, Iran and Turkey.

Government officials appear on television nightly telling people the virus is picked up only through contact with infected birds and -- so far at least -- cannot pass from human to human.
On a road leading into Salyan, public health workers wearing protective masks, suits and boots were stopping cars and spraying their tyres with disinfectant.

But near to the epicentre of the outbreak, some people do not trust the official assurances. Rumours spread quickly through the close-knit communities.

"Last week one of my acquaintances was ill and it was bird flu, although the doctors said it wasn't," said Haydar, a 71-year-old man from Salyan.
"I am sure there are a lot of people sick with bird flu but the authorities are hiding it."


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WHO Suspects 14 People Infected with Bird Flu in
Azerbaijan


Created: 20.03.2006 16:56 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 17:05 MSK, 2 hours
MosNews

"Experts from the World Health Organization suspect 14 more people are
infected with bird flu in Azerbaijan where two girls died of the the H5N1
virus earlier this month, Interfax reported Monday.

A group of WHO experts reported their suspicions after visiting the
Salyansky district of Azerbaijan, 150 km to the south of the capital Baku.

Earlier three residents of the district were provisionaly diagnosed with
bird flu.

Meanwhile, the state commission for preventing the spread of bird flu in
Azerbaijan and coordinating the work of relevant government bodies has
issued a statement that says no new areas of bird flu outbreak have been
discovered, Regnum news agency said.

“Bird flu has not been discovered in new areas. The Health Ministry has
said no-one has been hospitalized [with suspected bird flu> in recent
days, and that it has stockpiled the medications and disinfectants
necessary to prevent and treat the bird flu virus,” the statement read."


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Azeri deaths to take grim bird flu toll past 100
Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:35 PM GMT

By Stephanie Nebehay

GENEVA (Reuters) - Avian flu was believed to have claimed another three
lives in Azerbaijan, taking the death toll from the virus beyond 100, while
secretive Myanmar on Tuesday tackled its first outbreak in birds.

Test results showing three Azeris had died of bird flu were reliable, the
World Health Organisation (WHO) said, adding it awaited confirmation
from a British laboratory.

While it remains mostly a disease of poultry, bird flu can occasionally
infect humans and has previously killed at least 98 people in seven
countries in Asia and the Middle East.

Scientists fear it is only a matter of time before the H5N1 virus mutates
into a form that passes easily among people, triggering a pandemic which
could kill millions and cripple the global economy.

Azerbaijan is located on the Caspian Sea, sandwiched between Russia and
Iran. It also shares a border with Turkey where four children died from
bird flu in January.

In recent weeks, bird flu has spread deep into Europe, taken hold in Africa
and flared anew in Asia, adding urgency to efforts to contain its spread
and prevent a pandemic.

International agencies are rushing protection suits and testing kits to
Myanmar as the secretive Asian country battles its first outbreak of bird
flu.

The U.N. Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) agreed to send
$40,000 worth of equipment to help the former Burma contain the
outbreak on a farm in the central Mandalay region.

"The situation is under control. The FAO and other agencies are helping
us," Than Daing, deputy director general of the Livestock Breeding &
Veterinary Department, told Reuters.

AFGHANISTAN WARNING

Afghan President Hamid Karzai told his people to avoid touching chickens
as the country awaited test results to determine if bird flu found in five
chickens is the H5N1 strain.

"Don't touch chickens at the moment, until this virus is finished," Karzai
told farmers at an agriculture meeting in Kabul.

There is concern that Afghanistan, with weak veterinary and health
sectors after decades of war, will struggle to contain an outbreak.

Azerbaijan, which lies at the crossroads between Asia and Europe, said
late on Monday that three people who died this month had been infected
with bird flu.

The results came from a mobile laboratory brought into Azerbaijan from
the U.S. Naval Medical Research Unit in Cairo, WHO spokesman Dick
Thompson said. The tests were positive for H5 avian flu, but the exact
strain of the virus was not yet known.

The infected people were thought to be members of a family from the
Salyan region, in southern Azerbaijan near the Caspian Sea coast, who
were admitted to hospital early in March with suspected bird flu. Four of
them died.

Azeri officials said a further six people from the same area who were in
hospital with suspected bird flu were not infected.

Relatives told local media that the infected family kept poultry in their
house, a common practice in rural Azerbaijan.

(For more stories, pictures and video on bird flu see http://
today.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage2.aspx?src=cms)

(Additional reporting by Aung Hla Tun in Yangon, Yousuf Azimy in Kabul)

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I guess they cant just keep denying it anymore

 

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BIRd FLU SCARY. Him REALLY SCARY!
NO NEWS IS WHO NEWS
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main1393075.shtml

The winner of the Survivor Afganistan: immunity challenge.
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Women...
= the passion in this world.

Anybody beg to differ?

God bless us all...
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.
20060312.wcdc0312/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home

I guess the CDC geeks have to constantly fight off those groupies.
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Rick...

Believe me, there is nothing like it.  (The grandson, I mean.)

Keep fighting for this...I've been blessed beyond belief!  Tonight, he called me "Auntie"!

It was priceless.  I'll take that anyday!

He kissed me goodbye by putting his little tongue on my eye. 

I love that kid more than anything I've ever loved in my life!

By God, I'm gonna do everything I can do to protect him!  Gotta get more diapers!

Keep prepping all...keep prepping.  For EVERYBODY you love, even though they don't see what's about to come, do it because YOU LOVE THEM.

A tongue on my eye is worth any bird in the bush!!!

God help us all...
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This is more than one person that shares your concerns. The reason I do
this is that, I hope to have a grandson to play with one day. Live in hope
never die in despair.



Toronto Star, March 12, 2006. Excerpt:

"A leading scientist in the field of genetic sequencing is calling on publicly
funded U.S. researchers and research organizations to throw open their
collections of H5N1 avian flu viruses to allow others to work toward
lessening the pandemic threat the virus poses. Steven Salzberg wants the
U.S. Centers for Disease Control as well as researchers funded by the
National Institutes of Health to place their virus sequence data in open-
access databanks on an as-processed basis. He hopes such a move would
entice scientists elsewhere, as well as governments in H5N1-afflicted
countries, to end a pattern of virus hoarding many believe is undermining
the world's ability to battle H5N1. "I think what ought to happen is that
the U.S., starting with people funded by NIH and the CDC itself ought to
start releasing all of their data and all of their samples — and lead by
example," says Salzberg, director of the Center for Bioinformatics and
Computational Biology at the University of Maryland. "Because one
complaint I've heard from other scientists in other countries is: 'Hey, the
CDC in the U.S. doesn't release all their data. So why should we?'


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Rick...You are the best! 

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! for all your hard work & fantastic research.

While I'm busy playing with my grandson, trying to teach him to say "Gamma", you're busy researching the latest news for us & providing us with up-to-date news articles. 

I want you to know that I, personally, can't thank you enough.

Okay, one thing that really stuck out to me tonight from Rick's posts was this...

Posted: March 11 2006 at 4:48am | IP Logged Report Post Quote Rick

W.H.O. Pandemic Guide for Journalists


What will be the first signs of a pandemic?

"In one possible scenario, we will see clusters of respiratory illness from
one region.
---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------

Now, from everything I've read, haven't we already seen an obvious H2H cluster in Azerbaijan?

What's with the WHO?  Isn't the criterion for raising the alert that we start seeing H2H clusters? 

WHO in the h#ll is in charge?

So much for waiting on the World Health Organization to be truthful.

God help us all...
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Negative ion generators are cheap, $30 or $40 and up.  If they really improve the filtering efficiency of a mask by 10 to 100 times, they would be a MUST HAVE.
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According to the diagram, and my understanding of ion activity, by adding ions to the air, they will attract to surface of the mask normally if you put them in the air with your ion generator. 

Negative ions are reputed to have some positive heallth effects.  Positive ions (as shown in this drawing) can have negative effects.  I am not certain it would matter to use negative ions instead of positive - negative may produce the same response involving the mask.  A negative ion generator does pull very small particles out of the air.  I will try to research this more (can't make the link work to see more info there)

Some health effects of ions:
http://mypage.direct.ca/g/gcramer/asthma.html

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nice art work. kids must of had fun with that project.

anyway, can we ionize our mask? and how?

Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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by Sergey Grinshpun, PhD
Center for Health-Related Aerosol Studies, University of Cincinnati

Workshop on Respiratory Protection for Airborne Infectious Agents
November 30 - December 1, 2004 Atlanta, GA

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/resources/pressrel/announceme nts/
113004wkshp/pdfs/Presentation%2009_Sergey%20Grinshpun.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/resources/pressrel/announceme nts/
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Department of Environmental Health, Center for Health-Related Aerosol
Studies, University of Cincinnati,
P.O. Box 670056, 3223 Eden Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45267-0056, USA


by Sergey Grinshpun, PhD
Center for Health-Related Aerosol Studies, University of Cincinnati

Workshop on Respiratory Protection for Airborne Infectious Agents
November 30 - December 1, 2004 Atlanta, GA

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/resources/pressrel/announceme nts/
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Department of Environmental Health, Center for Health-Related Aerosol
Studies, University of Cincinnati,
P.O. Box 670056, 3223 Eden Avenue, Cincinnati, OH 45267-0056, USA


Abstract: We developed a novel concept that allows to considerably
improve the performance of conventionally used filtering-facepiece
respirators against ne and ultra finne aerosols including airborne viral
and bacterial agents.

The concept is based on the continuous emission of unipolar ions. The e
ect was evaluated through the real-time monitoring of the concentration
and size distribution of ne and ultra fine aerosol particles. The
measurements were conducted inside and outside of a respiratory mask
that was face sealed on a breathing manikin.

A commonly used Type N95 respirator and surgical mask were utilized
for the tests. The manikin was placed in a 24.3-m3 indoor test chamber
and exposed to polydisperse surrogate aerosols simulating viral
and bacterial particles with respect to the aerodynamic size. The particle
penetration through the mask was found to decrease by one-to-two
orders of magnitude as a result of continuous unipolar ion emission in
the chamber. The influx of air ions migrated to the breathing zone and
imparted electrical charges of the same polarity to the aerosol particles
and the respirator lter surface. This created an electrostatic shield along
the external surface of the filter, thus enhancing the protection
characteristics provided by the respirator.

The above performance enhancement e ect is crucial for minimizing the
infectious risk in the cases when the conventional ltering-facepiece
respirators are not able to provide an adequate protection against
airborne viruses and bacteria.




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Corn, for years I've kept a mental list of the 5 people I'd want to be stranded on a desert island with. For much of my adult life, it was 4 young movie starlets and Issac Asimov (for mental stimulation). 

Now that Issac is gone, I'm thinking I'd like to put you (at the bottom, of course) of my short list.  You seriously crack me up!

Keep up the good work.



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Colleen

yes, who knows? I have 4-6 days left on my earlier call of h2h jumping out of the box prediction.

unless a big suprise awaits all we get is this dribble of cases, 

the current trickle of cases though, is a significant amount compared to the dribble we got  3 months ago.

we get used to the news.  3 months ago one or two deaths or cases a bi weekly and we were concerned. now we gt 10-20 suspected and 5-7 deaths a week and we still say "we'll not to bad don't see drastic spread.".

so in another 3 months from the current trend in the news reports. (not based on exponentals) 3 months from now we'll get  25-30 deaths a week and 200 suspected cases? and say "oh what a slow week."

All I really  want to know is "about when" so that I can aviod exposure early. We're all looking for just the right time so at the last minute we can bug out. Don't care for all the bad news but have to keep abreast to monitor the "reported" spread..

I say we're getting about 20% of the news. another 20% we dig for. another 20% is being purposely held back and 40% of whats really happening in remote areas etc not even the WHO can't keep up with. cases go misdiagnosed and unreported.  the reported cases are just  the tip of and iceburg. so if they say 5 you can andd another 20 and make it 25.  It's the 40% I'm concerned about.

somethings going on. not enough information. wish we got all the news............

Let us see what next week brings ....I have to be in Nashville wed-fri people=germs..I'm going to invent the "Body Condom."non-lubricated of course,

Speculation is the only tool we have with a threat that can circle the globe in 30 days. Test results&news is slow.Factor in human conditions,politics, money&bingo!The truth!Facts come after the fact.
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I think we have a ways to go yet.  I do think it's h2h but not that easily spread yet,  seems to stick to family units, I think we will begin to see towns,maybe in another month. JMO

Though what ever happen to the quarantined town in India, that must be over now?

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Hey Corn-I noticed the same thing about the reporter's guide rightaway.-The phrase"once cases begin to be intentified as the new infuenza strain......"
 does not make any sense to me. Whether they are identified as such or not, has nothing to do with it's spread- right now there are not indentified, or amonth later. What good does that do?? silly folks:-( I think we 're in for some trouble. If they are having trouble at the beginning of the pandemic, how are they going to handle the rest of it. ?
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from who article in above post a few up

W.H.O. Pandemic Guide for Journalists

What will be the first signs of a pandemic?

"In one possible scenario, we will see clusters of respiratory illness from one region. Clusters of illness could indicate transmission between people, including casual contacts and health-care workers. Once cases begin to be identified as a new influenza strain, the disease may spread very rapidly,
beyond family members and health care personnel, into the general
population. This will be the start of a pandemic. Next, we will likely see dozens of cases being reported in a single day, followed by hundreds.

Once the pandemic starts, it will be nearly impossible for any surveillance system to miss it."

looks like we are already getting the dozen of reports stage.

if you count just part of the pnumonia, mysteriuos fever, etc. reports we're   getting close to the hundred report stage

hell what we don't know....'

we're probably at the hundred mark already,

next week will tell it all. If it's gonna blow to where they can't hide it. Next week or so will tell.

We're either fearmongering zealots or we're dead right on the money.

I'd say if you compiled all the articles we could get last week their were close to a hundred suspected cases.

My how the pace has changed from the weekly death report 3 months ago. we're getting 2-3 a day now.

3 months ago it was asias baby. now we pretty much lack 1/3 of the world left to  report. which all the experts agree will be doing so in about no later than 6 months.

For not ever being in a pandemic before or knowing what the start of one feels like. The last 3 months sure have been freaky.

Next week will tell. everybody dig as deep as we can into the news,, web, searches etc. we might hit one hundred suspected cases in one day if we put 2 + 2 together.  If we can do that it's pretty much a sure thing. it's coming.

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Azerbaijan investigating possible family cluster
of bird flu cases, WHO says


Canadian Press

Saturday, March 11, 2006

GENEVA (CP) - Health authorities in Azerbaijan are investigating a
worrisome cluster of possible human cases of H5N1 avian influenza, the
World Health Organization said Thursday.

A total of 11 suspected cases, including eight members of the same
family, are being assessed, WHO spokeswoman Maria Cheng said.

Of the 11 suspect cases, three people have died and one is listed in
serious condition in hospital.

"Currently there are signs that suggest this could be a human H5N1
cluster," Cheng said. "But we don't know that right now. We still need to
do more thorough epidemiological investigation and wait for the lab
results."

"It certainly looks a bit suspicious, but we don't have enough information
to draw conclusions."

Though all human cases of avian flu are potentially dangerous, WHO pays
particular attention to clusters of cases. While clusters may be the result
of several people from the same family or village each having exposure to
infected birds, they could also signal that the virus has passed from one
person to another.

It is believed there have been a number of cases of limited human-to-
human transmission of the H5N1 virus. But any sign of continued spread
could mean the virus had mutated in ways that would allow it to more
easily jump to and between people.

The possible cases in Azerbaijan have been reported in two villages,
Sarvan and Daikend, in the eastern part of the country. They are near
Baku, where that country's first reported H5N1 outbreaks in birds
occurred.

Reports received by the WHO suggest some of the possible cases may
have recovered and left hospital.

Cheng said specimens from the suspected cases, including the people
who have died, will be sent to Britain's National Institute of Medical
Research for testing. The North London lab is part of the WHO
collaborating laboratory network.

Cheng said it wasn't yet clear if the samples could be sent Thursday.
"We're waiting, I think, to see if they need more containers to ship the
samples."

A three-member team from the WHO has been in Azerbaijan assisting
local authorities with avian flu risk assessment and helping with the
investigation. The team is made up of an epidemiologist, an infection
control expert and a laboratory specialist.

Early indications suggest that at least some of the possible cases had a
history of contact with poultry. And Cheng said it was known that there
have been poultry outbreaks in this region.

"We know in that area there were sick and dying poultry and in
neighbouring districts they had confirmed H5N1."

At present there has been no discussion of sending a larger WHO team to
Azerbaijan, and authorities there have not asked the WHO for additional
help.

"It hasn't been raised yet. Certainly we'd be prepared to do that if the
country made that request," Cheng said.


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Rick,

Thank you so much for the news articles and maps!  It makes it so much easier to see the big picture. 

I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.  

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"Nobody seems to care or have any concerns. What is one to do?"

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Try to apply some emotional triage with your finite resources, to take care of
those that you care for most, get prepared and stay informed.

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That seems a common complaint here in the UK as well. Welcome Barley.
have good look round and you will see lots of ideas
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I am finding it hard to find out information that is current on the BF, Luckily I found this site today.  Thanks for all the info.  I am a nurse and every time I mention the BF to my fellow workers (including doctors) , they just seem to think it is just a joke that will never happen here and are not prepared  for when it does explode into a pandemic that spreads rapidly.  This is scary because I work for a Major Hospital in a large city.  Nobody seems to care or have any concerns.  What is one to do?
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W.H.O. Pandemic Guide for Journalists


What will be the first signs of a pandemic?

"In one possible scenario, we will see clusters of respiratory illness from
one region.

Clusters of illness could indicate transmission between people, including
casual contacts and health-care workers. Once cases begin to be
identified as a new influenza strain, the disease may spread very rapidly,
beyond family members and health care personnel, into the general
population. This will be the start of a pandemic. Next, we will likely see
dozens of cases being reported in a single day, followed by hundreds.

Once the pandemic starts, it will be nearly impossible for any surveillance
system to miss it."


http://www.who.int/csr/don/Handbook_influenza_pandemic_dec05 .pdf
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PITTSBURGH, March 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Recombinomics
fully supports the appeal by Dr. Llaria Capua of the OIE/FAO Reference
Laboratory for AvianInfluenza at the Istituto Zooprofilattica Sperimentale
delle Venezie inPadova, Italy to allow influenza researchers worldwide
open access to H5N1sequences collected by the WHO.

Currently, most of the recently collected H5N1 gene sequences are
sequestered in a private, WHO controlled database, which can only be
accessed by 15 laboratories. These sequences should be made available
immediately to the general scientific community. The sequences are
essential in pandemic vaccine development and should be accessible to
all.

    This week the United States government announced a new pandemic
vaccinetarget, the H5N1 sequence from a patient in Indonesia. Although
available sequences indicate several pandemic vaccine targets would be
desirable, theutility of the chosen sequence cannot be independently
evaluated because noneof the H5N1 sequences from human patients in
Indonesia are publicly available.

Similarly, no sequences from confirmed H5N1 positive human patients in
Turkey,Iraq, and China are available outside of the private WHO database.
Considering the hundreds of millions that will likely be spent in
manufacturing a "new" vaccine against H5N1, additional research and
analysisby the scientific community would be both warranted and
potentiallybeneficial.

    On February 28, 2006, researchers at the Beijing Genomics Institute
released H5N1 sequences under the submission title "A cohort of AIV
H5N1subtypes isolated from wild aquatic birds and domestic poultry
revealed rapid transmission, frequent reassortment, and identifiable
recombination."

Recombinomics has released a series of commentaries detailing the
examples ofrecombination in these newly released sequences, including
single nucleotidepolymorphisms.

    These newly released public sequences provide compelling evidence of
recombination in the H5N1 virus's evolution. "Release of recent H5N1
sequences is essential," said Recombinomics President, Henry L. Niman,
Ph.D.

"These sequences provide a roadmap of where H5N1 has been and where
it isgoing. They also can be used to predict new sequences of new strains
of H5N1before they emerge. These data are critical for effective vaccine
development."

    Recombinomics has used the available public sequences to predict the
acquisition of HA S227N in the Middle East in the fall of 2005. The
prediction was verified in sequences from the index case in Turkey.
Similarly, Recombinomics has predicted the acquisition of G228S form
H1N1 inswine in Europe this spring. Both of these genetic changes
increase theaffinity of influenza for human receptors and increase the
efficiency of H5N1transmission to humans. These predications are
dependent upon a full andcurrent sequence database. Through this
patent pending approach,

Recombinomics identifies novel gene targets for new vaccines, which in
turn allows manufacturers to develop vaccines in advance of the
emergence of new genetically altered, and potentially pandemic viral
strains.

    About Recombinomics, Inc. -- The Company was founded by Dr. Henry
Niman, a former Scripps Institute Assistant Member, based on his
pioneering work in the area of viral evolution.   Dr. Niman's research
identified recombination as the underlying mechanism driving rapid
genetic change, allowing him to file a series of patents based on a deep
understanding of this paradigm shifting process. Recombinomics is in the
process of commercializing its patent-pending approach to significantly
improve the standard vaccine development process.

Recombinomics, through its analysis and commentary section of its
website(http://www.recombinomics.com ), has been consistently ahead of
both the scientific community and government agencies in anticipating
the genetic evolution and geographic expansion of H5N1.

    Contact Information:
    Dr. Henry Niman
    President
    Recombinomics, Inc.
    648 Field Club Road,
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
    Tel. 866.973.2662
    henry_niman@recombinomics.com
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WOW Rick nice coverage of an area (Hot Spot)

Map gives better perspective to how closely linked all of these reports are.

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get ready this is human clusters,prep
ignorance.
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