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    Posted: October 23 2014 at 8:31pm
Some folks here suspected "Fishy" business around Ebola patients going missing and CDC cover-ups. There was the case of the boyfriend of Pham, which tweeked my radar and still is unresolved. This was additionally fueled by the hospital director asking staff to keep quiet about an Ebola admission at the same time.

Now there is a new source backing up the disappearance of Ebola patients in US hospitals.

I'm sorry about the source (Info Wars), but if its true, this is a scary development.

http://www.infowars.com/medical-professional-health-authorities-covering-up-ebola-cases-in-u-s/


DOCTOR: HEALTH AUTHORITIES COVERING UP EBOLA-LIKE CASES IN U.S.

Exclusive: Patients being "disappeared" to prevent panic

by PAUL JOSEPH WATSON OCTOBER 23, 2014

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A doctor has exclusively revealed to Infowars that health authorities are covering up Ebola cases in the United States and disappearing patients in an effort to avoid hysteria.

James Lawrenzi, DO, who has two clinics in Garden City and Archie, Missouri, appeared on the Alex Jones Show today to warn that the true scale of the situation was being deliberately downplayed. It is important to note that none of these potential Ebola outbreaks occurred at the clinics in which Lawrenzi works.

Lawrenzi said that shortly after the arrival of patient zero – Thomas Eric Duncan – in the United States, he was told by a doctor at Truman Lakewood Medical Center in Kansas City they had taken in a possible Ebola patient who had a high fever and was bleeding out of all his orifices having recently returned from West Africa.

The following day, Lawrenzi was told by the doctor that the patient had “disappeared” against medical advice, but that he wouldn’t have been able to leave on his own given his medical condition.

The day after the patient disappeared, a meeting was called for anyone who had contact with the patient. Doctors and other medical workers were told that the patient had malaria. Lawrenzi also revealed that drug reps from within the area warned over additional possible Ebola cases in the area.

A second possible Ebola patient was then admitted to Research Medical Center in Kansas City the following day but also quickly “disappeared,” with hospital bosses claiming he had typhoid, according to Lawrenzi.

“These patients are disappearing, they’re doing something with the patients and God knows where they’re going,” said the doctor.

Asked why authorities were engaged in an apparent cover-up, Lawrenzi speculated that the CDC was attempting to prevent hysteria, noting that workers at his own clinics had been told not to use the word “Ebola,” just as 911 dispatchers in New York have been banned from using the term, or to reveal any information about a possible Ebola case.

Lawrenzi also revealed that Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), a private operator of health care facilities, had earlier this week removed protective gear and Hazmat suits from local hospitals without replacing it.

“They were told this was so they could have continuity of care for possible Ebola patients,” said Lawrenzi, adding that the real reason was that authorities didn’t want to cause a panic by having medical workers and doctors being seen in protective gear.

Urging people to “stay away from places where there’s large groups of people,” as well as hospitals, Lawrenzi said the situation was “much more serious than they’re letting on.”

“When flu season hits, people are going to be coming into the hospital for flu or Ebola, they’re not going to know what they have….it’s going to be a nightmare, every doctor I’ve spoken with is terrified of this fall,” said Lawrenzi.

“They’re preparing for something,” he added, speculating that the endgame could be medical martial law or the Obama administration’s complete takeover of the medical system.

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Lawrenzi’s assertion that Ebola patients are being “disappeared” correlates with claims made by 27-year Border Patrol veteran Zach Taylor, who told Infowars that possible Ebola victims attempting to cross the border were also being secretly detained.

According to Infowars medical correspondent Dr. Edward Group, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is responding to only half the calls it is receiving from doctors reporting Ebola-like symptoms in patients. Dr. Group also talked with other health professionals and border patrol sources who confirmed that potential Ebola victims were being “disappeared” in an attempt to prevent panic.

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Here is another reference in the China Daily. You will need to translate.

http://world.chinadaily.com.cn/2014-10/24/content_18796956.htm


Here's my translation. Its not great but covers the doctors comments via a different source
 

US hospital "Tan Aye mere mention of" the doctor said, "Ebola" will be dismissed

Mobile users edit the text to 106580009009 CD, you can subscribe to 30 days free bilingual mobile newspaper China Daily.

US hospital &quot;Tan Aye mere mention of&quot; the doctor said, &quot;Ebola&quot; will be dismissed

Kansas City, a hospital doctor said the ban on suspected patients, "Ebola", otherwise it may be dismissed. (Photo: Jacob Windham)

China News Network October 24 electric (Liu), according to American media 23 reported that a hospital in Kansas City, prohibits doctors say patients suspected " Ebola "and should say" viral illness ", otherwise it may be dismissed. Hospitals are also suspected to reduce panic secretly transfer suspected Ebola patients, and claims that they are suffering from other illnesses.

Jim (James Lawrenzi) is a family doctor in Kansas City, he said, the hospital staff is prohibited when treating Ebola patients suspected of using the word "Ebola."

He said: "If you use the word hospital doctors threatened 'Ebola', would be fired."

Truman Medical Center Lakewood (Truman Lakewood Medical Center) is a doctor told Jim: "A few weeks ago, a patient came from West Africa back their hospital, the patient had a high fever and bleeding symptoms, but the next day it patients were gone. "

The hospital workers say, the patient is suffering from malaria. But this does not explain the blood.

There is another a suspected Ebola patient was sent to study at the Medical Center in Kansas City (Research Medical Center) after quickly disappeared. Hospital management claimed that this patient is suffering from typhoid.

Jim suspicion, hospital managers and the United States CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) cooperation, in an effort to prevent panic suspected cases brought, would give them the placement of other diseases, even if their symptoms are not comply.

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It's Infowars. That says it all.
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I don't know.  If I were controlling the information in a country, and I was trying to prevent a panic, I would do the same thing.  "Whoever controls the information, controls the people".  That is a pretty standard control device in places like China, North Korea, etc.

Is there anyone out there who personally knows a doctor, nurse, 911 dispatcher, etc, who they have also heard this from?  Or are there any other articles, anywhere, that mention this same "controlling of ebola information"?
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Yes I know it is info wars...    however Alex Jones gets access to info nobody else apparently does.   While his interpretation or comments on stories may be off in right field, he usually has his facts straight and everything is documented.   Some people even think he is working as a CIA/intelligence shill.

Also from following the news, this story seems to fit what we have all been seeing.   Something sure seems fishy on a lot of these suspected cases.


All that being said I have a question...    Why are we finding out about some cases (Duncan and his nurses and this NY case)   but other cases are being hidden?   Why tell us about any cases if they are trying to keep it secret?
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The problem with all conspiracy theories is that in order to effectively pull them off, too many people would have to be involved.
We all know that humans aren't great secret keepers.
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Doctor: Health Authorities Covering Up Ebola-Like Cases in U.S.

Exclusive: Patients being "disappeared" to prevent panic





Doctor: Health Authorities Covering Up Ebola-Like Cases in U.S.     
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by Paul Joseph Watson | October 23, 2014



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A doctor has exclusively revealed to Infowars that health authorities are covering up Ebola cases in the United States and disappearing patients in an effort to avoid hysteria.

James Lawrenzi, DO, who has two clinics in Garden City and Archie, Missouri, appeared on the Alex Jones Show today to warn that the true scale of the situation was being deliberately downplayed. It is important to note that none of these potential Ebola outbreaks occurred at the clinics in which Lawrenzi works.

Lawrenzi said that shortly after the arrival of patient zero – Thomas Eric Duncan – in the United States, he was told by a doctor at Truman Lakewood Medical Center in Kansas City they had taken in a possible Ebola patient who had a high fever and was bleeding out of all his orifices having recently returned from West Africa.




The following day, Lawrenzi was told by the doctor that the patient had “disappeared” against medical advice, but that he wouldn’t have been able to leave on his own given his medical condition.

The day after the patient disappeared, a meeting was called for anyone who had contact with the patient. Doctors and other medical workers were told that the patient had malaria. Lawrenzi also revealed that drug reps from within the area warned over additional possible Ebola cases in the area.

A second possible Ebola patient was then admitted to Research Medical Center in Kansas City the following day but also quickly “disappeared,” with hospital bosses claiming he had typhoid, according to Lawrenzi.

“These patients are disappearing, they’re doing something with the patients and God knows where they’re going,” said the doctor.

Asked why authorities were engaged in an apparent cover-up, Lawrenzi speculated that the CDC was attempting to prevent hysteria, noting that workers at his own clinics had been told not to use the word “Ebola,” just as 911 dispatchers in New York have been banned from using the term, or to reveal any information about a possible Ebola case.

Lawrenzi also revealed that Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), a private operator of health care facilities, had earlier this week removed protective gear and Hazmat suits from local hospitals without replacing it.

“They were told this was so they could have continuity of care for possible Ebola patients,” said Lawrenzi, adding that the real reason was that authorities didn’t want to cause a panic by having medical workers and doctors being seen in protective gear.

Urging people to “stay away from places where there’s large groups of people,” as well as hospitals, Lawrenzi said the situation was “much more serious than they’re letting on.”

“When flu season hits, people are going to be coming into the hospital for flu or Ebola, they’re not going to know what they have….it’s going to be a nightmare, every doctor I’ve spoken with is terrified of this fall,” said Lawrenzi.

“They’re preparing for something,” he added, speculating that the endgame could be medical martial law or the Obama administration’s complete takeover of the medical system.



Lawrenzi’s assertion that Ebola patients are being “disappeared” correlates with claims made by 27-year Border Patrol veteran Zach Taylor, who told Infowars that possible Ebola victims attempting to cross the border were also being secretly detained.

According to Infowars medical correspondent Dr. Edward Group, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is responding to only half the calls it is receiving from doctors reporting Ebola-like symptoms in patients. Dr. Group also talked with other health professionals and border patrol sources who confirmed that potential Ebola victims were being “disappeared” in an attempt to prevent panic.
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What is the link?
Looks like Infowars again - not a credible source.
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the problem with conspiracy theories is that any dissenting opinions and critical thinking as per "pieces of the story that don't fit"- are reflexively dismissed as 'conspiracy' by mediocre minds who spout cliches as if they were their own thought processes and not ingested propaganda.
Learn a little discernment, and gain some basic curiosity. they are the building blocks of wisdom- and science
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With everything that has come to light in the last 5 years it is hard to discount anything. Spying? Manipulation of all major markets by govts. I would be surprised if there was a coverup of cases but you never know.
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Originally posted by JojoStarr JojoStarr wrote:

the problem with conspiracy theories is that any dissenting opinions and critical thinking as per "pieces of the story that don't fit"- are reflexively dismissed as 'conspiracy' by mediocre minds who spout cliches as if they were their own thought processes and not ingested propaganda.
Learn a little discernment, and gain some basic curiosity. they are the building blocks of wisdom- and science

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Very well said, welcome to the forums Jojo.

Two points to add before this post goes sideways:

A conspiracy and a coverup only exist if they are discovered.

The last sentence "Learn a little discernment, and gain some basic curiosity. they are the building blocks of wisdom- and science"

This is so true, I love history, and am a voracious reader, and I love to do research,Which brings me to my last thought I would like to share....

There are many instances of Government coverup, possibly conspiracy's that have happened, Bay of pigs, JFK with Castro (CIA involvement), Tuskegee experiments, WMD in Iraq ( just last week pentagon admitted it had been guarding stockpiles of VX and sarin gas since 2003 the U.S helped Saddam acquire in the 1990s in his war with Iran, this is all over the news now). The psychedelic experiments on solders (well documented)etc;

Here is another one for intellectual fodder: Did anyone know we had compulsory sterilization laws in the united states as short a time ago as the 1930s?...these were laws which gave states the lawful authority to castrate, or otherwise sterilize criminals, mentally disabled, and innocent boys in orphanages....look it up...start with Buck vs. Bell where our supreme court upheld a states right to sterilize,under the concept of Eugenics. I brought this one up because i used it as an experiment on our class during a collage course, as a critical thinking project....everyone in the class, including the professor got it wrong, no one thought we could ever do that here in America. Most of the class thought it fell under "conspiracy theory"   

If one does the research it is relatively easy to find declassified CIA/ military/ Government programs that end up going south, and eventually discovered, or after 40 years declassified.

I am not saying everything is a conspiracy, or coverup, I only point out the fact that there are documented cases where there were secret projects, or experiments that were done, that were so horrible, just the idea that they COULD happen runs counter to anything most people can accept...thus fall into the abyss of "conspiracy"
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Well, just because nobody ever heard from Louise Troh and the family again after they went into isolation ... Big smile

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Originally posted by bob bob wrote:

I don't know.  If I were controlling the information in a country, and I was trying to prevent a panic, I would do the same thing.  "Whoever controls the information, controls the people".  That is a pretty standard control device in places like China, North Korea, etc.

Is there anyone out there who personally knows a doctor, nurse, 911 dispatcher, etc, who they have also heard this from?  Or are there any other articles, anywhere, that mention this same "controlling of ebola information"?

I just finished a college course for personal health care worker and hubby works at long term care facility..

first off in this course I took they passed anybody who was in the class failing grades or not, I have chosen not to stay in that feild,but it is nice to have all the training just in case

hubby works at a long term care facility and for the first time in the 30 years he has been there he is receiving emails from his suppliers, how they will handle delivery of goods to the facilities in a pandemic situation. These are 6 pages long and give details on if their employees are sick or even refuse to show up for work,if there are shortages and so on.


Today I am taking my 16 DD back to emerg, she was there on Sunday night she has throat and chest infection..and even way up here in the north of Ontario they are asking Ebola questions...if I gather anymore helpful information I will come back and post. I was not able to be with here on Sunday night when she went in to emerg,was at work.

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kelee877, welcome!  Great post, yes please come back & let us know anything you have learned.
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Has anyone else seen articles from a different original news source like BBC, Reuters or AP on this same subject?  Or maybe have heard of ebola cases "being hidden"?  This is a VERY serious thing if this is actually going on in this country.

This same InfoWars article was posted on Yahoo.com on Friday Oct 24th, so it didn't count, as it was from the same original source.  
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After the elections there will be no more reason to hide the ebola patients. Maybe November 5 we'll see more people catching it.
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