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Fighting continues in Syria despite mainstream media spin of successful cease fire.

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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

Good video. Ends with request for money to get independent press to cover news. I think independent media is essential for people to find out what is "realy happening" (as far as reality is not to complex to cover). 

Med comment:  Josh - the GIM - what I am working on too - needs funding. Haven't been pushing this but to compete with sometimes massive amounts of misinformation - it takes whatever is the local currency to keep these lines open.

The cease-fire is an open door. It gives groups the chance to change positions with the ceasefire as an excuse. That is the "big good thing"! It has Russia and the US/NATO talking. Iran is in a different position towards the west than it was just a few months ago. Israel has to deal with Russia more then before the Russian intervention in Syria.

Med comment: The cease fire is a good opportunity, but with this brewing in the background, this would appear to be an effort to invade Syria and remove Assad from power. Of course, Turkey even with the Saudi doesn't have the force to defy NATO, but that doesn't mean they won't.

The 'devil-is-in-the-detail' is always true. But the "parties that matter"agree that IS and Al-Nusra are not wanted in Syria. Turkey and Gulf States-the sponsors of these terror-groups-have lost.

The main problem-as put in the video-is "the west does not know what they are doing in Syria". The US has given support to groups that are fighting each other. The EU needs a solution to the refugee-invasion of millions of people send by Turkey (to blackmail Europe).

Med comment: There has been no consistent strong foreign policy by the U.S. in Syria. As you know in battle, he or she who falters is lost. To pause for years is allowing dozens of others to get into this and it is even more complex than before. Currently it does not appear the Western policy or strategy to take out ISIS is working. When ISIS starts losing ground and cities large scale then the tide will change.

The war over Syria was a war over a lot of things (religion, drinking water) but fossil energy-the gas pipeline from Qatar to the EU to keep Russia limited in the EU energy-wise-should be seen as something of the past. 

The EU is changing towards reneweble, durable energy-economic growth is-at best-limited. The Gulf States and the United States both have become energy-exporters. 

Basicly one of the"bones in this dog-fight"has gone. Fighting for that Qatar-gaspipeline with the present energymarket is useless. It is a good thing whene the US is getting that point.

Med comment: In one of the videos I posted a man was standing and talking about wanting to reclaim their nation. The Western world just doesn't get it as people are starving, eating grass and dying of disease while we figure out new recipes for McDonald's and what is stylish to wear.  Their nation to them is their nation. Their birthplace, where there children are born and are dying. If they are going to police the planet, then at least they should feed the people whose cities they are bombing or perhaps rethink bombing them or have done this a long time ago.
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It would appear that Turkey is mobilizing to invade Syria. Despite the much publicized "cease fire" in Syria and hopes for peace, the presence of Saudia Arabian forces - and a combined operation with forces of at least 150,000 troops, planes, tanks, and arms, this still could escalate and be a very dangerous situation.

It is rough trying to get "The Real News" because there is a lot of propaganda out there and yet - nothing that has come out so far has verified that the war games about to take place in Syria have been called off.  There is nothing about this on mainstream media - or at least for now - nothing is coming up.

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A Russian TV channel has obtained footage showing a Turkish military buildup on the Syrian border near Kobani. This follows a series of cross-border shelling attacks, by Turkish forces against Kurdish positions in Syria.


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While there is a cease fire - there still is a major problem with a possible invasion of Syria by Turkey. This will mess up whatever cease fire is in place and Russia could actually launch a tactical nuke on Turkey to defend itself and as a member of NATO, Turkey could pull us into a war. (U.S.)

This is not the Alex Jones hour (i.e. groundless nonsense) The following is hard to confirm but likely. Obama is talking to Putin - and despite all the drama of what Putin may or may not thinking of Obama - I think both men recognize the severity and possibility of nukes in Syria. Turkey does have them and can use them in response. Never let it be said what a country has to do. If Turkey gets themselves in a mess, it is possible the U.S. and other NATO members will have the common sense to back off whether the Saudis are there with them or not.

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Good video. Ends with request for money to get independent press to cover news. I think independent media is essential for people to find out what is "realy happening" (as far as reality is not to complex to cover). 

The cease-fire is an open door. It gives groups the chance to change positions with the ceasefire as an excuse. That is the "big good thing"! It has Russia and the US/NATO talking. Iran is in a different position towards the west than it was just a few months ago. Israel has to deal with Russia more then before the Russian intervention in Syria. 

The 'devil-is-in-the-detail' is always true. But the "parties that matter"agree that IS and Al-Nusra are not wanted in Syria. Turkey and Gulf States-the sponsors of these terror-groups-have lost.

The main problem-as put in the video-is "the west does not know what they are doing in Syria". The US has given support to groups that are fighting eachother. The EU needs a solution to the refugee-invasion of millions of people send by Turkey (to blackmail Europe). 

The war over Syria was a war over a lot of things (religion, drinking water) but fossil energy-the gas pipeline from Qatar to the EU to keep Russia limited in the EU energy-wise-should be seen as something of the past. 

The EU is changing towards reneweble, durable energy-economic growth is-at best-limited. The Gulf States and the United States both have become energy-exporters. 

Basicly one of the"bones in this dog-fight"has gone. Fighting for that Qatar-gaspipeline with the present energymarket is useless. It is a good thing whene the US is getting that point. 
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The Real News - the cease fire that is not a  cease fire...

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It would appear that this one of the few places tracking the real events occurring in Syria and a possible invasion from Turkey in the near future. Having some serious issues getting this post to you. This is the third time AFT has shut down on me. Despite mainstream media announcements that there is a cease fire, this is not the case.  Still the battle continues with ISIS shutting down a main road and they are fighting to clear it. U.S. continues to back the IS state revolutionary forces and those have been under attack from Russian air attacks. One gain has been the ability of humanitarian aid to enter the war torn cities but nothing has stopped concerning Turkey's preparation for an armed invasion of Syria with Arabian military and ground forces supporting them. Although Russia has advanced missile arrays positioned near the border, and most jets would be shot down, a large scale ground invasion to topple the Assad regime with 350,000 troops is still possible and could greatly escalate the situation. Stay tuned for "The Real News." We are working - i.e. CWN to set up our own channel but will work with AFT at least post here.

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Syria is a sovereign country
Russia is there at  their request
for Turkey and Saudi Arabia to attack is a WAR CRIME
and the US is complicit in the violation of international law
makes us part of the "axis of evil" don't it ?


Having some difficulties getting this stuff up. Turkey has not backed down or agreed to anything at present and still is preparing for an invasion to depose Assad.

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Syria is a sovereign country
Russia is there at  their request
for Turkey and Saudi Arabia to attack is a WAR CRIME
and the US is complicit in the violation of international law
makes us part of the "axis of evil" don't it ?
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Turkey waiting for green light from the U.S. - Operation NORTHERN THUNDER - Massive troops -

Russian S-400s positioned inside the border and all that is holding back an airstrike - still setting up for a ground invasion.

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Interesting that there is less and less news about a possible conflict between Turkey and Syria. Well GIM - what I am working on- Global Independent News - and networks YouTubes as I am posting below - are gaining ground with stories you will not see on Fox or CNN. The real news.

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Turkey prepares to invade Syria. Fighter jets arrive. Doubts as to a cease fire and situation on the Turkey/Syrian border. It appears that the main purpose of the invasion of Syria by Turkey and Arabia will not be to fight terrorists but the overthrow the Assad regime. 

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Developments will bring even further unrest (civil war) in Turkey itself. Not only Kurds, also other groups are against Erdogans alignment with Saudi Arabia. 


"Turkey will not be a proxy to execute scenarios of violence and atrocity drafted in foreign capitals. Otherwise the outcome could be catastrophic," Bahçeli said.

He also said the government must immediately inform the Parliament about all aspects of its relations with Saudi Arabia and offer detailed explanations about the current developments. "A ground operation without the approval of Parliament could cost us a homeland," he warned.

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_turkeys-alevis-seek-official-recognition-end-to-longstanding-discrimination_412115.html

Alevis  in Turkey want the state to recognize their faith in the Constitution and bring an end to the unjust practices and discrimination they have been facing for decades, according to leading Alevi figures in society.

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Some links, developments could go fast so this may be "old news" by the time I put these links.

In the clearest sign yet that the Syria situation is rapidly escalating to World War 3, the government of Russia has Urged all Russians in Turkey to Leave immediately!

FIGHTING HAS ALREADY BEGUN between Syria and Turkey.  Russia has troops inside their ally, Syria and it is widely expected that RUssia will ENGAGE any foreign troops or planes that attempt to enter Syria without the permission of the Syrian government. 

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/886

Sources on the ground inside Syria tell SuperStation95 that the Turks began a furious artillery barrage at about 6:00 AM eastern US time today.  Turkey is attacking the Kurdish YPG .

https://www.rt.com/news/332380-turkey-shells-northern-syria/

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/332394-syria-terrorists-endgame-provocation/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-13/turkey-says-massive-escalation-syria-imminent-saudis-set-launch-airstrikes

http://www.todayszaman.com/latest-news_turkey-strikes-kurdish-militia-in-syria-demands-it-withdraw_412235.html

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_turkey-says-ready-to-join-anti-isil-ground-operation-with-saudi-arabia-in-syria_412229.html

http://sana.sy/en/?p=69247

Turkish artillery pounds Kurds in northern Syria. Will Russia react? 

DEBKAfile February 13, 2016, 6:33 PM (IDT)

The Syrian war took a new turn Saturday, when Turkish artillery Saturday started pounding Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near the northern Syrian town of Aleppo. It started shortly after Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu threatened the same measures against the Syrian Kurds “as we took in Iraq and Qandil [against PKK strongholds]."
This week, PYD forces, with close Russian support, seized control of the Minagh air base near Aleppo from Islamist rebels. DEBKAfile: This was the first instance of Russian-Kurdish cooperation in the Syrian war.

The fall of the base deprived left Syrian rebels encircled in Aleppo of their supply routes by air, after the Syrian army and allies cut off their road links to Turkey.  This steps were part of the Russian strategy for the capture of Aleppo, and Moscow will most likely retaliate for the Turkish artillery attack.

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It is very over there now. If the troop "exercise" is conducted with hundreds of thousands involved this could bring things to an escalation point.

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Sometimes I almost think those in power read what I write here. Is this a diversion so they can gather their forces for greater conflict or are the countries of the world trying to stop this war and the thousands of innocent people being killed and end the hostilities in Syria?


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Med, I agree with you, the only right thing to do is make peace not war. But all indications go towards war in the short term. 


Saudi Arabia is to deploy military jets and personnel to Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base in the south of the country, Ankara said. The base is already used by the US Air Force for their sorties in Syria.

The deployment is part of the US-led effort to defeat the Islamic State terrorist group, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said.

"At every coalition meeting, we have always emphasized the need for an extensive result-oriented strategy in the fight against the Daesh terrorist group,” he said, referring to IS by an Arabic-language abbreviation.

Cavusoglu spoke to the Yeni Şafak newspaper after addressing a security conference in Munich, Germany, where the Syrian crisis was one of the top issues on the agenda.

"If we have such a strategy, then Turkey and Saudi Arabia may launch a ground operation,” he added, fueling concerns that a foreign troop invasion may soon further complicate the already turbulent situation in the war-torn country.

Earlier, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE voiced their readiness to contribute troops for a ground operation in Syria on the condition that the US would lead the intervention. Damascus and its key regional ally, Iran, warned that such a foreign force would face strong resistance.

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_davutoglu-signals-turkish-action-after-fall-of-aleppo-corridor_412162.html


Speaking to reporters en route to Turkey from the Netherlands, Davutoğlu said that he had told German Chancellor Angela Merkel of the need to stop Russia in Syria in order to prevent further influxes of refugees to Turkey and Europe from the region, the Hürriyet daily reported on Friday. When asked whether Turkey will take action to reopen the corridor to Aleppo, Davutoğlu said, “Wait for the next few days and you will have the answer,” daily Hürriyet reported on Friday.

Davutoğlu also criticized the US for not listing the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) as a terrorist organization. He argued that the People's Protection Units (YPG), the armed wing of the PYD, supplies arms to the terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). “When US Vice President Joe Biden came [to Turkey in late January], we showed him everything on a map for five hours. We shared everything about which routes are used by the YPG to carry weapons to Turkey. We expect [the US to show] sensitivity [about the issue]. We cannot see the YPG as legitimate just because it is fighting against the [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant] ISIL,” Hürriyet quoted Davutoğlu as saying.

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_erdogan-says-patience-running-out-in-syria-turkey-could-take-action_412040.html">http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_erdogan-says-patience-running-out-in-syria-turkey-could-take-action_412040.html

"We will show patience up to a point and then we'll do what's necessary. 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/12/southfront-the-turkish-2nd-army-invasion-force-for-syria/">http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/12/southfront-the-turkish-2nd-army-invasion-force-for-syria/

Turkey’s membership in NATO complicates its plans of invasion. Unless Turkey is itself attacked, the NATO alliance is not obligated to defend the nation. Turkey will have to engineer a provocation that frames it as the target of an aggression either by Kurdish forces from beyond its borders or by Syrian or Russian forces combating its terrorist allies in Syria. Such a false flag provocation in not outside of the realm of possibility. When a Turkish F-16 shot down a Russian Su-24, claims that the bomber had strayed into Turkish airspace for a number of minutes and ignored radio warnings from the Turkish aircraft were proven to be patently false. A year earlier in 2014, an audio recording of Turkish officials, including the head of the Security Service (MIT), Deputy Chief of the General Staff, Foreign Minister and the Undersecretary to the Foreign Minister discussing staging an attack on the Tomb of Suleiman Shah (a sovereign piece of Turkish territory) in Syria and using it as a pretext to intervene in Syria were leaked anonymously on YouTube. The Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan responded by banning YouTube in Turkey, in affect giving support to the recordings authenticity. Now that the Syrian government has the upper hand militarily, gaining back territory and destroying, surrounding or pushing back various Turkish-backed terrorist forces, Turkey may be ready to engineer a new excuse to invade.

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https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/884

And just how far is this from the plains of Meggido?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon

Russia will have no choice but to use Tactical (Battlefield) Nuclear Weapons to defend Syria once a ground invasion begins within 18 days, by 350,000 troops, 20,000 Tanks, 2,450 military planes  and 460 Helicopters from 25 countries massing in northern Saudi Arabia.  Syria has warned "any aggressor entering the country will go home in wooden coffins;" Russia has said "any country sending ground troops into Syria without permission will be considered a declaration of war."

Thousands of soldiers from regional countries are set to participate in what is being "called" a military "exercise" media reports say.

Saudi media said some 350,000 forces from Persian Gulf Arab states and a number of other countries will take part in a Saudi-led military maneuver in the area of Hafer al-Batin in northern Saudi Arabia.

In addition to the massive troop build-up, some 2,540 warplanes, 20,000 tanks and 460 helicopters will also participate in the "exercise," dubbed “North Thunder.”

The "exercise" is scheduled to last 18 days, during which the airspace over northern Saudi Arabia will be closed.

Media reports say the "exercise" will be the largest in the history of the region. However, SuperStation95 has done research and there is no known example of this much military power being massed for an "exercise" . . . anywhere . . . ever.  It seems quite obvious to any thinking person that the notion of an "exercise" is fraudulent on its face.

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There is always a choice. Let's hope for once some of the most powerful nations and leaders on Earth surprise everyone and make the right one. End the conflict in Syria. Lay down your weapons and talk peace. It is time to call a cease fire and demonstrate your wisdom not your military might.




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Do I get it right ? YPG was fighting IS that got ammunition, medicine and other supplies "from the air"?

YPG is seen by Turkey as part of PKK "terrorists". In large parts of Turkey the situation is close to a civil war between (right wing) Turks and Kurds, "left wing Turks", Alawites etc. 

If a KSA/Turkish invasion in Syria was meant to have fighting IS as an excuse those IS allies better hurry up. IS is pushed east and south into Iraq. The plan proberbly is to push IS towards KSA. Leading IS figures now show up in Libya. Did they walk/swim to Libya or how did they get there ? 

It is time to ask serious questions! The west has been supporting an extremist group in a proxy war. Reminds me of how the nazi's got their power in the early 30's. Backed by western (royal) elite, Bush/Koch family, Henry Ford, Shell etc. That same elite has been backing IS ! That same elite is pushing for war with Iran and Russia ! Not for "human rights or democracy" but to enrich themselves even further !
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Kurdish troops, with Russian special forces, capture key air base in N. Syria 
DEBKAfile February 11, 2016, 3:23 PM (IDT)

DEBKAfile's sources report Thursday that forces from the Kurdish YPG militia, backed by Russian commandos, captured the Minnigh air base and an adjacent town in northern Syria from rebel groups allied with Islamic State. It marked the first time in the Syrian war that Kurdish troops had attacked the rebels in a joint operation with the Russians. The town and the base located north of the city of Aleppo, and just a few kilometers from the Turkish border, are strategically important due to their proximity to the town of A'zaz that controls the main northern route leading to the besieged city. DEBKAfile's sources added that the capture of the air base and the roads leading to it cut off the last remaining route for the rebels in Aleppo to receive ammunition, food, medicine and other supplies from the air. 

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Exclusive: U.S. Allies Now Fighting CIA-Backed Rebels


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/12/exclusive-u-s-allies-now-fighting-cia-backed-rebels.html

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Compare Mike Whitney’s Truthful Account Of Syria With The Disinformation Published By The Washington Post


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/02/11/compare-mike-whitneys-truthful-account-of-syria-with-the-disinformation-published-by-the-washington-post/

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Eventhough in Munich-Germany there were talks about a "ceasefire" in Syria the West and its Arab allies have a long history for "double-talk". "Humanitarian Aid" should not mean reinforcing IS etc. with food weapons and fighters. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, NATO did not change their plans. A ceasefire could buy them time for military intervention. 

A large scale US-led invasion in Syria from Turkey and KSA-via Iraq-will meet Russian weapons. Quite likely tactical nuclear weapons to stop Allied armies of over 500.000 man. The US proberbly is preparing anti-missiles-systems to deal with those tactical nuclear weapons. 

The outlook is bad. There is no such thing as a limited nuclear war. When Russia would use tactical nuclear weapons that are being shot down by the US it will lead to further escalation. 

Above that if IS is a western product the start of such a war would bring in action IS terrorist cells all over the world. 





This time, there was no "pregnant pause."  This time, the Saudis had one of their Brig. Generals come out on TV and state "The decision to send ground troops into Syria is final."  That statement came out earlier today. 

 

Late this afternoon, Defense Secretary Ash Carter announced he was "asking NATO allies to join a US coalition to send ground troops into Syria."  This is directly threatening the Russians that they will be facing NATO!

 

The Russian response was swift:  This evening Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev warned that "the demands of some Arab countries to send ground forces into Syria risks starting a new world war." Mr. Medvedev said sending troops to Syria risks drawing “everyone taking part in it into a war” and drastically escalating the conflict. “All ground operations, as a rule, lead to permanent wars,” he said. “The Americans must consider – both the U.S. president and our Arab partners – whether or not they want a permanent war.”  Russia again repeated its warning that any foreign ground troops entering Syria without permission would be a declaration of war. 

 

Late this evening, The Irish Times broke news that the intent of Saudi Arabia sending ground forces is "to counter Russia."   Whoa!  When did the mission change from fighting ISIS to "countering Russia?"  Who decided that?

 

We are now watching World War Three being put into operation

 

Oh, My Dear Holy God!  I cannot believe I am watching this take place.  We are literally watching World War Three be put into motion and the clock is ticking:  18 days max.

 

Here's the worst part:  When NATO was first created to protect Europe from what was the big, bad Soviet Union, the Soviets enjoyed huge advantages in all military force.  Russia could field 100 Divisions; NATO could only field 12.  Russia could field 18,000 tanks.  NATO could only field about 5,000.  So NATO adopted the "flexible response strategy."

 

The ONLY possible way to delay or halt the advance of 100 Army Divisions with 18,000 tanks is to use Tactical (Battlefield) nuclear weapons as a "force multiplier."  NATO thus no longer needed to match the size and strength of Russia, because a  doctrine had been adopted to equal the balance of power by using Tactical nukes.  The Deterrent threat of that possibility worked!  It kept the peace.

 

Fast-Forward to today.  To this very moment, the ONLY way to stop 350,000 ground troops with 20,000 tanks coming at you is to use tactical nukes. There simply is no other choice. 

 

Russia has adopted a first strike doctrine.  If Russia, or its territory or its interests are faced with being over-run, they will  use tactical nukes to deal with that problem.

 

So here we have it:  Russia now faces being over-run in Syria starting 18 days from now.  The ONLY possible way they can stop 350,000 ground troops backed by 20,000 tanks, is to use tactical nukes. Their formal policy is to do exactly that.  Hence, tactical (Battlefield) nuclear weapons will be used.  There's no way to avoid it because it is the only possible defense against 350,000 ground troops and 20,000 tanks coming across the border.

 

American Mass Media Keeping All of This Quiet

 

The American media is totally silent about all this.  This is by design; they want you to be taken totally by surprise when war breaks out, so you'll be too scared to think, and instead, will just do what the politicians tell you. 

 

When this war breaks out -- 18 days from now -- and the Russians do what they must to protect Syria from being over-run, the ONLY thing the American public will be told is "Russia attacked Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons.  Saudi Arabia is our ally and we are going to help them."

 

Americans, completely ignorant of who is _really_ the bad guy here, will hear that "Russia attacked our ally with nukes" they'll gasp and say to themselves "those bastards" and off to war they'll go; a war that will have already gone nuclear.  WW3 . . . 18 days from now.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, my fellow citizens, we cannot sit back and allow this to take place.  We cannot allow people to start a world war over religious beliefs and an egotistical desire to control other countries.  We cannot send our sons to war for this nonsense!  I have a son of Draft age.  I speak now, as his father, to protect him from this insanity.

 

Please spread the word.  Send links to this article to everyone you know.  Please tell your family, friends, neighbors, co-workers to read this story so they know what's actually taking place and how much danger we are all facing.  There does not have to be a war.  A nuclear war.

 

Unless we stand-up, right now, and tell our elected public SERVANTS that we absolutely forbid them from sending ground troops into Syria, they will lead us to utter destruction . . .  and they have a very good motive for doing it:

 

Economic Collapse

 

The government in the US, and those in Europe, need a DIVERSION to shift the public's attention away from the coming economic collapse.

 http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-may-deploy-troops-in-syria-to-counter-russia-1.2528577


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Further indications for an escalation of the M.East war:


Experts suggest Turkey is ready to deploy some 18,000 troops with substantial artillery and air support to occupy a 30-kilometer deep territory across the border running from the city of Jarabulus westward to the city of Azaz. The operation would cover an area under ISIS control, and it would provide a direct military assistance to terrorists and facilitate establishing of a buffer zone for the vestiges of their forces in Northern Syria.

It would drastically escalate the tensions with the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the predominantly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). However, the Turkish military is fully capable of completing the first move aimed to push the SAA and the SDF from the aforementioned area and occupy a significant part of Northern Syria.

This step will likely face a hard answer of the Russian military grouping located in the country. The Russian land and navy air-defense systems and fighter jets are fully capable to neutralize the Turkish air force which will allow the Syrian government to counter-attack the Turkish intervention forces. Thus, the anti-terrorist forces will get a chance to exercise a counter-attack which will be likely supported by the Russian Aerospace Defense Forces.

http://www.debka.com/article/25221/In-new-Syrian-exodus-some-50-000-refugees-head-to-Jordanian-Israeli-borders">http://www.debka.com/article/25221/In-new-Syrian-exodus-some-50-000-refugees-head-to-Jordanian-Israeli-borders

There was no way to bring water, food or medicines to the fleeing refugees.
Military sources monitoring the situation report that the exodus was first touched off by the fall of Alaman, 3 km north of Daraa in the last few days to Syrian and Hizballah forces. They next cut off parts of Highway 5 from Daraa to Damascus. The rebels were left with only one remaining escape route, the road to the Jordanian border, but that too is under heavy fire, forcing the refugees to go round through rough country.

As in Aleppo, the Darnah district is held by hundreds of assorted rebel militias, ranging from the US-backed Free Syrian Army to groups which have sworn allegiance to ISIS. According to our intelligence sources, it is often hard to determine which groups are taking orders from whom.
Jordan has followed the Turkish policy towards the tens of thousands of refugees massing on its border  A single crossing is operating at Ramtha, but refugees are not allowed to pass through.
The Israeli government has not yet issued any statements of policy with regard to the Syrian refugees heading for the Golan.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-10/us-leading-saudi-arabia-down-kuwaiti-invasion-road


For the first time in a long time I feel concerned and worried about the prospect of war.  The reaction of Saudi Arabia to the Russian intervention in Syria has always been the wild card in the shifting geopolitical power base in the Middle East.  Turkey and Israel, along with Saudi Arabia are the three countries with the most to lose because of a strong alliance between Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and Russia.

These three traditional American allies have been accustomed to Western support in regards to their own specific regional goals and ambitions.  This support has been so staunch and counterproductive to regional stability that the growing comfort and alliance between Iran and the US should be both confusing and worrisome to Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

It is plausible that an overthrow of the House of Saud would benefit the American strategy against China.  The divisions within Saudi Arabia make it ripe for such a strategy explained above.  Especially if there is a faction of the House of Saud which would be willing to take control of what remains and fit within a larger Middle Eastern regional alliance.

A negotiation with China regarding crude sales in renminbi as discussed in the post The Petro-Renminbi Emerges, could very well be the macro-geopolitical and macro-socioeconomic strategy which is unfolding here.  Such an outcome would benefit both China and Russia, while also maintaining a check on Iranian regional ambitions.

To think that the US would enter into a major war against Russia over Saudi Arabia is fraught with mindlessness and madness.  The more probable strategy is the overthrow of the House of Saud, or at least a complete restructuring of the countries place within the Middle East.

Will Saudi Arabia take the bait and invade Syria?  I think we may know that answer sooner rather than later.

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https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/884

350,000 troops, 20,000 Tanks, 2,450 military planes  and 460 Helicopters from 25 countries are massing in northern Saudi Arabia.

Thousands of soldiers from regional countries are set to participate in what is being "called" a military "exercise" media reports say.

Saudi media said some 350,000 forces from Persian Gulf Arab states and a number of other countries will take part in a Saudi-led military maneuver in the area of Hafer al-Batin in northern Saudi Arabia.

In addition to the massive troop build-up, some 2,540 warplanes, 20,000 tanks and 460 helicopters will also participate in the exercise, dubbed “North Thunder.”

The "exercise" is scheduled to last 18 days, during which the airspace over northern Saudi Arabia will be closed.

Media reports say the "exercise" will be the largest in the history of the region. However, SuperStation95 has done some initial research and there is no known example of this much military power being massed for an "exercise" . . . anywhere . . . ever

Egypt, Sudan, Pakistan and Persian Gulf Arab states are among the 25 countries that will take part in the military exercises.

The maneuver comes at a sensitive time after Saudi Arabia announced readiness to participate in any ground incursion in Syria if the US-led coalition decides to start such an operation.  (Gee, what a coincidence.)


We are now within about 18 days (maximum) of what may prove to be the actual hot-start to World War 3.  And the US mass-media is completely, utterly silent about it.

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The "we are change"video is missing a few points:

Syria has 30% shia-muslims, mostly sunni. Also this "civil" war is about oil-gas-pipelines. Qatar wants a line via Syria/Turkey to Europe. The US is backing that plan because Europe would in that case not buy oil from Russia. 
Another point is that Saudi Arabia is going bankrupt because of the low oil price. The war in Yemen is turning into a disaster. But economic collapse would be the end of the Saoud-dinasty. The eastern Saudi Arabia-mostly shia-close to Iran is producing most of the oil. Saudi Arabia isalso repressing the shia-minority within its own borders. The Kurds are another issue-in Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria. The Kurds are the largest nation without their own state. 


Turkey and the US disagree on the Kurdish issue. Turkey is using IS to fight PKK/YPG while the US is giving the YPG weapons to fight (parts of) IS. Several countries have their own agendas. (Israel wanted to weaken Syria, prefers IS above Iran-but within some limits). 

I think Russia and Iran are very clear that they will and can not accept an invasion in Syria from Turkey, KSA or any other party. Turkey is using refugees north of Aleppo to discuss a "safe-zone" in Syria that will also be used by IS and can be used as a supply-line from Turkey to IS. Russia is willing to accept a "safe-zone"under Russian supervision (I guess). 

The danger is in further escalation that could put the whole region in war, including north of Turkey, the Ukraine, Afghanistan, Libya etc. 

China has its own-New Silk Road-plan and is not going to accept sabotage. They did stay out of the fighting so far, but in economic and political way Russia-Iran-China are one block. The exchange energy for weapons, use eachothers currencies or Euro's. India may be getting closer to this block-depending on the situation with Pakistan/Kashmir. 

The NATO and EU are divided. In Europe (and in the US) people are asking why NATO should move east to Ukrain, Georgia etc. The EU has the refugee-crisis as a result of the Bush-administrations attack on Iraq. Most people outside the US blame the US for the economic (debt-related) chaos in the world. 
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Have been told that no way will the United States will get involved in a Turkish invasion of Syria.  However the war is at a critical point.

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Chechen commandos fighting in Syria alongside Russian troops, leader says 
DEBKAfile February 9, 2016, 2:19 PM (IDT)

Chechen ruler Ramzan Kadyrov said during an appearance on Russian television that Chechen special forces are fighting alongside Russian troops in Syria, and that they have suffered casualties. He did not specify the location of the deployment or the fronts where they have fought. The Chechen special forces brigades are an integral part of the Russian military as Chechnya is part of Russia. Some of the units, disguised as volunteer fighters, fought in eastern Ukraine in recent months.  

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-09/saudi-arabia-prepares-send-special-forces-syria-will-fight-part-us-led-coalition

As we reported yesterday, in one of the most surprising developments involving the Syrian proxy war, Saudi Arabia and U.S. presence on the ground, the latest twist is that both Turkey and Saudi Arabia are now mulling a full-scale invasion while Russia and the Syrian government continue their progress in wiping out the US and Saudi-funded rebellion. To be sure, there was confusion when CNN Arabia reported first that the Saudis may send as much as 150,000 troops into Saudi Arabia, by way of Turkey, something which Anadolu news promptly denied.

However, the denial itself was softly denied by the Saudi Press Agency, which further stirred the water earlier today when it reported that not only is Saudi Arabia ready to send a special force to fight in Syria, but that this deployment was proposed by the US, which would oversee the Saudi troops as part of the US-led coalition in Syria. To wit:

  • AL JUBEIR SAYS U.S. PROPOSED GROUND FORCE DEPLOYMENT: SPA
  • SAUDI FORCE WOULD FIGHT AS PART OF U.S.-LED COALITION: SPA
  • SAUDI MINISTER SAYS SENDING GROUND FORCE UNDER DISCUSSION: SPA
  • SAUDI ARABIA READY TO SEND SPECIAL FORCE TO FIGHT IS IN SYRIA

And so, what was until recently purely an air campaign involving all the major global powers (except China, for for the time being), is about to become a full-blown land war, involving not only Suunis and Shi'ites (especially once Iran joins the fray), but also Russian troops on one side and US and Saudis on the other.

Most notably, oil has refused to budge even an inch on what is rapidly shaping up as a precursor to World War III.

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Turkey is sending Russian IS fighters to Ukraine https://www.rt.com/news/331860-turkey-isis-fighters-transit/

The real problem is that “very often” Turkish authorities deport Russian citizens suspected of terrorist activities to third countries, with which Moscow has strained relations (Ukraine) or has no diplomatic contacts at all (Georgia).

“If a person suspected of having links to Islamic State is deported to such countries, our chances to arrest them come to naught,” Karlov said.

The Turkish side maintains that deportation to third countries is exercised “on the suspects’ request.”

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To block any NATO/Gulf states plan for intervention in Syria Russia is mobilizing its army near the Turkish-Russian border region. NATO moving into Syria=Russia moving into Turkey. 


A serious development in Russia today as President Vladimir Putin ordered Russia's Southern Military District to Combat Readiness near Turkey's Border.  Put bluntly, Russia is preparing for war.

"In accordance with the decision of the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, President Vladimir Putin, today from five o'clock in the morning the troops of the Southern Military District, the individual components of Airborne Troops and military transport aircraft are on alert, Complete. " said General of the Army Sergei Shoigu.

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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

Med, good Next News item. Turkey, KSA, UAE, are waiting for the US to give a sign for large scale operations. I do not think the US will give that sign to move into Syria. But maybe into parts of Iraq ? 

Debka also claims that Russia and the US are working together inside Syria. Russia might want to "persuede" Assad to go. 

For the west, US, EU, NATO, this war (they should stop calling it a civil war !) is about "who runs the planet". When the western intervention that started in 2001 in Afghanistan, 2003 Iraq (or maybe never stopped since W.W.2) turns out in a victory for Iran, Russia(etc.) also other countries/regions will loose confidence in the west. (Ukraine=bankrupt, corrupt, North Africa and Afghanistan disasterzone). 

The US will not start a large invasion into Syria. When Turkey does so (maybe with help from Israel, Gulf States) the US will move into damage controll fast. 

World War 3 only would have losers. Another point for the "neo-con theory", fossil fuels were interesting to fight for a few years ago. Now there is more supply than demand. The calculations have changed. "Investing in another oil war is not such a profit any longer".


Let's see if the U.S. is going to move into this. This is "independent" news grade - but they are mobilizing.

What do you think about what this guy is saying?  Sounds pretty grim. No doubt the U.S. is aware of what is coming down here. A lot of military power and weapons as well as the newest Russian fighter jets in the region. This guy looks worried. Should we be?
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Med, good Next News item. Turkey, KSA, UAE, are waiting for the US to give a sign for large scale operations. I do not think the US will give that sign to move into Syria. But maybe into parts of Iraq ? 

Debka also claims that Russia and the US are working together inside Syria. Russia might want to "persuede" Assad to go. 

For the west, US, EU, NATO, this war (they should stop calling it a civil war !) is about "who runs the planet". When the western intervention that started in 2001 in Afghanistan, 2003 Iraq (or maybe never stopped since W.W.2) turns out in a victory for Iran, Russia(etc.) also other countries/regions will loose confidence in the west. (Ukraine=bankrupt, corrupt, North Africa and Afghanistan disasterzone). 

The US will not start a large invasion into Syria. When Turkey does so (maybe with help from Israel, Gulf States) the US will move into damage controll fast. 

World War 3 only would have losers. Another point for the "neo-con theory", fossil fuels were interesting to fight for a few years ago. Now there is more supply than demand. The calculations have changed. "Investing in another oil war is not such a profit any longer".
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http://www.debka.com/article/25215/Russian-hands-off-warning-to-US-Saudis-Turks-amid-crucial-Aleppo-battle

The five-year Syrian civil war, faces its most critical moment. Saturday, Feb. 6, a combined force of Syrian army and Hizballah troops and an Iraqi Shiite militia under Iranian officers, were led by Russian air and Spetsnaz (special forces) officers into pressing forward to encircle 35,000 rebels trapped in Aleppo, the country’s largest city. As they tightened the siege, 400,000 Syrian civilians were also trapped and forced to bear heavy Russian air bombardment and savage artillery fire from the ground forces closing in on the city.
Rebel supply routes were cut off Thursday and Friday when Syrian and Hizballah forces captured the Azaz Corridor connecting Aleppo and all of the northern province of Idlib to the Turkish border.

Tens of thousands of refugees fleeing from the beleaguered town are massing at Bab al-Salama, the last Turkish border crossing to be closed against them. This is the largest Syrian refugee exodus since the start of the civil war.
The rebels under siege are painfully short of weaponry for fighting off the massive, combined offensive, DEBKAfile’s military sources report. Their only remaining recourse is to surrender or be ground into submission as the conquering force knocks over their positions and takes over street after street.
Once the combined forces fighting with Bashar Assad’s army take Aleppo and northern Syria, the opposition will have suffered its heaviest defeat since the war began. The rebels groups’ capacity to continue fighting the regime will be gravely diminished.

Their desperate plight - and the fresh surge of Syrian refugees in unmanageable numbers – cut short the conference in Geneva for a settlement of the Syrian conflict, before it got underway – and prompted reactions from sponsors of rebel groups.


In Washington, State Department circles, in a briefing to US media, said the time had come to establish a no-fly security zone in northern Syria. They said: “Once a zone were established we do not believe Russia would challenge the stronger US and NATO forces, particularly if they were operating mainly from Turkey.”

The next day, Friday, Moscow came back with a sharp response: Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov said: “Russian air defense systems enable early detection of threats to Russian aircraft flying combat missions over Syria and provide adequate measures to ensure flight safety.”
This was a reminder of the sophisticated air defense S-400 and S-300 missile systems Russia installed at its Syrian air base after the Turkish air force downed a Russian warplane in November.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem put it more crudely: “Any foreign troops entering Syria would return home in wooden coffins.”

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Rain and windstorms halt Russia air strikes over Syria. 
DEBKAfile February 7, 2016, 10:00 PM (IDT)

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that the rebel forces under siege in Aleppo and Idlib province are regrouping for an attempted counter-offensive during the lull in Russian air strikes caused by the stormy weather besetting the region since Saturday. This has slowed down the Syrian-Iranian-Hizballah advance on the key city. Our sources report that rebel forces are preparing to recover their road links to the Turkish border, although it is doubtful that they have the military capabilities to manage this.

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Turkey is preparing to invade Syria with Saudi Arabia support. Are they going to try and oust Assad?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-07/exasperated-john-kerry-throws-towel-syria-what-do-you-want-me-do-go-war-russians

Of course Kerry won't be able to "sell" that story to the Saudis and the Turks, or to Qatar all of whom are now weighing their oppositions as the US throws in the towel. "Kerry’s mixed messages after the collapse of the Geneva process have put more pressure on Turkey and Saudi Arabia," MEE concludes. "Both feel extreme unease at the potential collapse of the opposition US-recognised Free Syrian Army."

And so, as we said earlier this week, it's do or die time for Riyadh, Ankara, and Doha. Either this proxy war morphs into a real world war in the next two weeks, or Aleppo "falls" to Assad marking a truly humiliating defeat for US foreign policy and, more importantly, for the Saudis' goal of establishing Sunni hegemony in the Arabian Peninsula.

The only other option is for John Kerry to face the Russians in battle. As is evident from the sources quoted above, Washington clearly does not have the nerve for that. 

https://www.rt.com/news/331638-uae-ground-operation-syria/


Following in the footsteps of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, The United Arab Emirates (UAE) stated on Sunday that it was ready to ground troops to Syria to fight Islamic State. Damascus earlier said it would send unwelcomed invaders back ‘in coffins.’

The UAE’s preparedness to participate in a ground military operation in Syria was confirmed by Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash, who said that "US leadership on this" would be a prerequisite.

"We are not talking about thousands of troops, but we are talking about troops on the ground that will lead the way ... that will support ... and I think our position remains the same and we will have to see how this progresses," he added, as cited by Reuters.

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Because this news should be main news-top of the list:

ISIS Terrorists are backed by the United States, Saudi Arabia and Turkey!

Later this afternoon, Saudi Arabia announced they are willing to commit ground troops to enter Syria, with coalition partners (i.e. America)  "to fight ISIS."  But the utter fraud of this statement is clear on its face.

Both the US and Saudi Arabia -- along with Turkey -- have been supporting the rebels trying to overthrow the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad.  When Russia agreed to provide military assistance to President Assad, that assistance took two forms:

1) Attacks by Russian air power against Rebels, AND;

2) Attacks by Russian air power against ISIS terrorists.

The attacks against ISIS were so effective, that it soon became clear ISIS was being backed by Turkey!   Oil, stolen by ISIS from Iraq and Syria, is routinely carried on tanker trucks from those two countries into Turkey, where it is slightly refined, re-packaged to look like legitimate oil, then sold on the world market at very cheap prices.  This has generated revenues to ISIS estimated to amount to $100 Million per month.

When Russia began attacking those ISIS oil convoys, Turkey sent two of its planes to shoot down a Russian jet which Turkey claimed had violated its airspace. 

This prompted an angry reaction by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who called the shoot-down and "act by accomplices to terrorism."  He expressly meant Turkey was an accomplice to ISIS!

That began an exchange of diplomatic and economic troubles between Turkey and Russia, with the Russians imposing economic sanctions on Turkey.

 

ALEPPO IS FALLING

The final stronghold of  ISIS - and other rebels trying to overthrow Syrian President Assad -- is in the city of Aleppo.  Thanks to Russian assistance, the Syrian Army has been able to reclaim territory from ISIS and the rebels, and Aleppo is the last remaining stronghold. 

If Aleppo falls to the Syrian Army, President Assad will be back in firm control of his country, thus a defeat for the US, Turkey and Saudi Arabia who have been trying to overthrow him.

Hence, the timing of the massing of Turkish Troops along the Syrian border, and today's "offer" of Saudi Arabian Troops to "enter Syria to fight ISIS."  They don't want to fight ISIS, they want to protect the rebels and continue trying to overthrow President Assad!

The Russian Ministry of Defense made clear what the results will be if foreign troops enter Syria without the permission of the Syrian government:  Battle!

 

THRESHOLD OF WORLD WAR 3

The crucible of Syria has now separated the wheat from the chaff and the sides are clear:  The US, Saudi Arabia and Turkey trying to overthrow the freely elected President of Syria under the guise of fighting ISIS,  versus the Syrian Army and the Russians who are trying to defend the government of Syria and who are actually killing ISIS.

What we have now is a Mexican stand-off.  Two great powers, the U.S. and Russia, now find themselves on opposing sides in an active battle zone, Syria.    The Russians have permission to be there, no one else does.  This gives the Russians the moral high ground. 

Further, since it is now irrefutable that Turkey has been cooperating with ISIS and helping them sell stolen oil to fund terror operations, it is just as clear that Turkey, the US and Saudi Arabia are in the wrong, both morally and legally.

Will that matter to the US, Saudi Arabia and Turkey?  Henry Kissinger, who met with Vladimir Putin Yesterday, gave Putin the terrifying answer:  No.  War cannot be avoided.  Those in the wrong are going to attack.

Having been told this, Russia today deployed their state-of-the-art "air superiority fighter"  the SU-35 "Flanker" to Syria.  This aircraft is not designed to bomb targets on the ground, it is designed to fight other advanced aircraft in the air; the type of aircraft that may be sent by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the US.  

The SU-35 "Flanker" is more than a match for anything Turkey or Saudi Arabia may choose to field, and a very good fighter against US assets.  While the U.S. F-22 "Raptor" is superior and would ultimately win, they would have a hell of a fight on their hands.

 

MASS MEDIA KEEPS AMERICNS COMPLETELY IN THE DARK

The U.S. Mass Media is dutifully keeping these facts from the American Public.  When battle breaks out, it will happen very fast and the American public will be taken by almost complete surprise.  It is likely that Russia will be spun as the bad guys and the country will be asked to "support our troops" as they "fight to defend our freedom" which is all a bunch of hogwash.

In every sense, we are literally standing in the doorway to World War 3.  None of it should be happening, but a cadre of leaders and slime in the US and the west, seem intent on doing it anyway.

 

SOURCES:

Russia Says Turkey Massing Troops and Equipment on Syria Border

Saudi Arabia offer Ground Troops to fight ISIS in Syria

Henry Kissinger meets with Vladimir Putin in Russia

Russia Deploys SU-35 "Flanker" to Syria

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In my opinion there is more evidence that NATO in fact is backing IS to fight Assad, Iran, Russia/China. IS is selling oil to NATO countries, Israel, Japan. Turkey is supporting IS against the Kurds. NATO may use a false flag as an excuse to invade Syria, claiming to fight IS but taking over parts of Syria without the permission of the Assad regime. For Russia and China, Iran further proof that IS is a weapon that "the west" wants to use against them. Militairy and economically Iran Russia and China are more co-operating. 


1:50 PM - EST -- Moments ago, the Russian Ministry of Defense  confirmed that if Turkey sends troops into Syria, Russian forces will engage them in battle.

At 1:50 PM eastern US time today, the Russian Defense Ministry made another statement, making explicitly clear "Syria still has a functioning government and that government is an ally of Russia.  Any foreign force entering Syria without the permission of the Syrian government will be viewed as an invader.  If Turkish troops enter Syria, Russian forces will engage them in battle."
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We are reaching a new apex in the War in Syria crises much like presidential candidate Donald Trump as Kerry says to Putin in effect - "you are cheating."

It is amazing to me with Christians being slaughtered and decapitated, that the U.S. cries foul because civilians are being killed by savage bombing missions in Syria. The collateral damage as the U.S. bombed Iraq of hundreds of thousands of people for more than a decade versus the rise of Isis would seem to make this illogical. 

Why are people in the Middle East upset? We are occupying their country and were taking their oil.

A quick decisive tactical nuke in Syria might have caused a problem, but we would not be facing ISIS had they not been trained and funded to create an insurgency for proxy control of Middle Eastern nations.

There has been a quality lacking in foreign policy decisions for many years now in the U.S. - common sense. You are not going to be recognized as the meanest most A*** kicking MF in the valley if you keep whining "you are cheating" or you broke the agreement. You don't give a country billions of dollars in ransom money which will go right into the arms of terrorists and plead ignorance. I thought when Jimmy Carter munching on his peanuts paid the ransom and we literally insured terrorist now could extort and terrorize us, we would have learned.

Those who ignore history are destined to repeat it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

The crisis is considered a pivotal episode in the history of Iran–United States relations.[10] Political analysts cite it as a major factor in the trajectory of Jimmy Carter's presidency and his loss in the 1980 presidential election.[11] In Iran, the crisis strengthened the prestige of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and the political power of theocrats who opposed any normalization of relations with the West.[12] The crisis also led to the United States' economic sanctions against Iran, further weakening ties between the two countries.[13]

Duh!  So now we drop the sanctions as Iran continues to mobilize it's military and nuclear development? 

Thus causing an oil crises which could hurt the stock markets and economies around the world.

So as the violin plays we can see possible flames - and if we are not careful - World War




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http://southfront.org/is-jordan-joining-the-russia-led-coalition/

January 28, 2016 (20:30). On January 28 in Moscow, there was a meeting between Russian Federation Minister of Defense, Army General Sergey Shoygu and the Minister of Defense of Syrian Arab Republic Fahd Jassem al-Freij.

The two sides discussed bilateral military and military-technical cooperation. They also discussed the effectiveness of Russian air campaign against terrorist groups. There was an exchange of opinions concerning the current security issues in the Middle East.

The meeting was held in a friendly atmosphere and confirmed the shared intent to expand multifaceted collaboration between the two defense ministries.

January 28, 2016 (20:56). On January 28, 2016, there was a meeting in Moscow between the Russian Minister of Defense, Army General Sergey Shoygu with the Chairman of the Armed Forces’ Chiefs of Staff Committee of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Colonel-General Mashaal Muhammed al-Zaben who was on a short working visit.
There was an exchange of views concerning current security issues in the Middle East. In addition, the two sides discussed Russian-Jordanian military cooperation.

After a year of military gains aided by US-led air strikes, the Kurds and their allies already control the entire length of Syria's northeastern Turkish frontier from Iraq to the banks of the Euphrates River, which crosses the border west of the town of Kobani.

Other Syrian insurgent groups control the frontier further west, leaving only around 100 kilometers (60 miles) of border in the hands of ISIL fighters, running from the town of Jarabulus on the bank of the Euphrates west to near the town of Azaz.

But Turkey says it will not allow the Syrian Kurds to move west of the Euphrates.

The source confirmed a report on Kurdish news website Xeber24 that cited a senior YPG leader saying the plan includes crossing the Euphrates to attack the ISIL-held towns of Jarabulus and Manbij in addition to Azaz, which is held by other insurgent groups.

http://www.debka.com/article/25191/Russians-let-Hizballah-into-Daraa-breaking-their-promise-to-Israel

On Wednesday, Jan. 27 a large Hizballah force entered the southern Syrian town of Daraa, a critically dangerous event for Israel’s security. The way to the town, which lies near the Jordanian border and across from the Israeli Golan, was opened before Hizballah by none other than Russian forces. This was a blatant violation of President Vladimir Putin’s commitments to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Jordanian King Abdullah not to permit Iranian and Iran-backed forces, such as Hizballah and Iraqi and Afghani Shiite militias, reach their borders in consequence of Russia’s military intervention in the Syria war.

Daraa is just 32 km from the southern Golan and 12 km from the Jordanian border. Hizballah forces in this town are therefore within easy striking distance from northern Israeli and Jordan.


https://www.rt.com/news/330723-turkey-russia-jet-envoy/

Turkey has summoned the Russian envoy, claiming a Russian fighter jet has violated its airspace, Dogan news agency reports.

According to Ankara, the incident involving a Russian Su-34 took place Friday. Several warnings in Russian and in English were allegedly sent to the jet.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry condemned the incident in a statement Saturday, calling it “a type of irresponsible behavior” and warned that they would hold Russia “fully responsible” for any potential “undesirable dire consequences” that may arise.

The ministry also said it views the alleged violation as a clear sign that Russia is seeking to escalate the already existing tensions.




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This Rmeilan Airfield is east of were Turkish forces went into Syria (according to superstation). 


Carter did not give an exact number, but said the number of US personnel is going “to increase greatly as the momentum of the effort increases.”

He stressed that the reinforcement would involve not only the US, but also its coalition partners. In this regard, Carter said that one of his goals is to bring Arab countries – “Arabs and Sunni Arabs” – into the military campaign, as they can be “an enormous contribution to this.”

“I want to hear from my counterparts over the next couple of days -- how can we get them in the game. I have long said that Arabs and Sunni Arabs need to get in the game,” Carter said on Tuesday.

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http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2016/01/20/the-obama-administration-raises-the-stakes-as-u-s-military-illegally-occupies-airfield-in-syria/ 

US troops have taken control of Rmeilan airfield in Syria’s northern province of Hasakah to support Kurdish fighters against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), a spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) told Al Jazeera.

The airfield near the city of Rmeilan, which will become the first US-controlled airbase in Syria, was previously controlled by the US-backed Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG).

The airfield is close to Syria’s borders with Iraq and Turkey.

“Under a deal with the YPG, the US was given control of the airport. The purpose of this deal is to back up the SDF, by providing weapons and an airbase for US warplanes,” Taj Kordsh, a media activist from the SDF told Al Jazeera on Tuesday.

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https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/789

I did not find any confirmation of this news elsewere, if it is true it is a further escalation:

Three regular army Turkish ground troops have been captured (Photo Below) and five others have been killed after Turkish troops entered Syria today - without permission - and were engaged by Russian Forces!  The presence of the Turkish troops has escalated the war situation in Syria to an unimaginable level which may have disastrous consequences for the world.

Claiming they intend to attack the ISIS terror group in reprisal for the terror attacks last week in Istanbul,  the Turkish troops entered Syria at the Jarablus Border Crossing, thereby instantly entering territory controlled by the terror group, ISIS as shown on the maps below. 

Upon entering into Syria the Turks encountered heavily armed ISIS forces . . . and walked right by them; neither Turkish nor ISIS troops engaged the other in battle!  The Turkish troops then took-up positions BETWEEN the ISIS terrorists and the Syrian Army, as if to protect ISIS!  This made it clear instantly to the Russians embedded with the Syrian Army, that the Turks are, in fact, allies of ISIS.

For months, Russia has been providing evidence to the world of Turkish cooperation with ISIS.  Video of oil tanker trucks, carrying stolen oil from Iraq and Syria into Turkey for processing, have been made available to the world, proving Turk-ISIS cooperation.

Today's entry into Syria by Turkish troops who immediately failed to engage ISIS fighters, seems to be irrefutable proof that Turkey is working WITH the terror group ISIS.  The big question facing the world was: Now that Turkish troops are in Syria, would they face strikes from Russian forces?

Late Today, the World Got the Answer

Russian troops engaged the Turkish regular Army troops in battle.  In the end, three Turkish regular army troops were captured alive; five Turkish regular Army troops were killed.

Regardless of the fact there has been no formal declaration, there is now a defacto state of war between Russia and Turkey.  The world now waits to see if Turkey goes crying to NATO claiming they were "attacked" -- while in a country they had no right to be in --  thus opening the door for a NATO response against Russia.

Few times in history have the west (and the world) been so close to actual war between nuclear-armed powers of Russia versus NATO as we all are right now! 

This is a deadly serious situation and we should expect developments to take place with lightning speed.

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The clash continues and is just not receiving that much coverage in the media. Despite the media barrage of news when Russia first sent in troops, and now other nations have joined the fight, as election sabers rattle, less is said of this conflict.

The bottom line is, are any significant gains being made to stop ISIS?


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