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Public opinion on war
https://www.rt.com/news/419878-welt-eastern-front-outrage/, https://www.rt.com/usa/419891-congress-poll-disapproval-lobbysts/ DJ-In western democracies the gap between politics and the public only is getting worse. Politics react by more supervision on the public (state-of-emergence etc.), censorship/repression, trying to get the public to buy there (lobbyists) agenda. (We in the Netherlands had a referendum-law-politics did not like the outcome of the referenda-so they ended referenda by changing the law.) Another note-while the rich 1% (or even 0,1%) get richer on the other side of "the labor market" slavery increases. From refugees being sold as slaves in Libya, Turkey to US prisoners "forced"to work as firefighters etc. Not only income-inequality increases, also legal rights (on the job, also healthcare, housing, education) worsens for most. When "all votes count"in a democracy how can it be that the rich get richer, all other see their position worsen ? Public support for more NATO-wars is simply not there. Putting alternative media under pressure, kicking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones from YouTube, climate change news from Facebook, is not making the general public trust politicians. War possibilities per country; Syria http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-us-department-of-state-the-government-claims. Israel did loose several fighters "due to bird-collision a F15, technical problems a F16 on february 10 air-operations above Syria-also another F15, an Apache-attack helicopter had "technical problems". Somehow a lot of US, Israel missiles failed to do much damage in Syria. Israel and the US may be very limited in what Russia allow them to do. Turkey is allowed limited activity above Afrin-Russia and Turkey are talking-Russia is putting pressure on the Kurds. Russia also has lines of (in)direct communication with Israel, the US. But in practice the US-and Israel almost need Russian permission to use most of Syrian airspace. https://southfront.org/syria-energy-reconstruction/ Russia has made deals with Syria on oil and gas. China needs that energy very hard. So far the US is trying to hold on to the East Syria oil/gas fields (Isreal is bying the oil and gas)-but the US position here may be very hard to continue. Kurds may want to sell the oil/gas for their own interest-China may be a better buyer. Iran Israel, US, Saudi Arabia, UAE, would love regime-change in Tehran. Iran now is-in practice part of the Russia-China block. China wants to move trade with Europe via Iran, Pakistan, Turkey-Russia is happy to also have access to the Indian Ocean via the Caspian Sea and Iran (even plans to build a channel connecting the Caspian Sea with the Indian Ocean via West Iran). Attempts to create uprisings by western/Gulf State agencies have had very limited effect-maybe brought even more support for the Tehran-regime. The present Iran government is willing to listen to public demands on food-prices, even womens rights. Also playing on minorities, Kurds, Turkmen, Azeri's, Baluchi etc. will have limited effect. People did see what happened in Iraq, Libya, Syria-they blame the US, Israel , west and Gulf States for that. DJ-Looking at Iraq, Libya, they did have brutal dictators but after western action nobody will claim they are better of now. Looking at how woman were able to dress in Afghanistan (or Iran-for that matter) in the 70's gives the impression of liberties lost. (Allthough in Iran under the Shah most Iranians were poor-and could not afford western clothing). Russia, China, North Korea (Pakistan, Turkey) DJ-Some in the US, UK etc. are thinking of starting a war with these countries. Just like a war with Iran the costs would be that extreme all other ways-even accepting the status quo, may be better. US reasons for war could be defending the US-petro-dollar, but even Saudi Arabia accepted the petro-yuan in deals with China. Also the idea of getting most of the oil and gas under US control-with renewable energy growing fast-proberbly keeps a lot of US decision-makers from going much further in making war-plans with those countries. The US wants to claim to be the only super-power. Russia and China may give the US room to claim so. But it could end up like somebody telling his "boss" I call you my boss when you do what I tell you what to do.
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US airstrikes Syria
https://southfront.org/syrian-forces-fire-missiles-at-us-led-coalition-aircraft-attacking-them-in-deir-ezzor-unconfirmed/, https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201802271062033539-us-coalition-targets-damascus-forces/, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/us-led-coalition-warplanes-strike-syrian-regime-forces, https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11596. A little bit more info, pro-Assad forces seem to have moved into SDF-supposed to be held land. Then were attacked by the US. (Just like february 7) this time at least with some airdefense. (No more details-yet-may indicate another major event people do not want to discuss-make their own version first ?) Propaganda war http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-international-experts-north-korea-supplied-the DJ Ideal mix in the propaganda North Korea did sell chemical weapons to Syria (most likely also Russia (Putin himself ?)-Iran (China) involved-in this propaganda story. Russia in Syria https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russia-s-stealth-fighters-in-syria-are-putin-s-election-gimmick-1.5847755 The Kremlin claims 4 of the most modern Russian fighterplanes are in Syria "to test their radat and for sales-promotion". https://www.rt.com/news/419816-su-57-syria-trial/ DJ-I do not believe a word of it ! Chances of war https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-25/averting-us-russia-warpath https://www.rt.com/news/419877-world-war-long-peace-study/ DJ-Long times of peace are not uncommon but do not make wars unlikely (do not know if the set-uo of such a study should be called science ?) With new technology the old M.A.D. (Mutual Assured Destruction) balance is gone (DJ-the article does not mention climate change-Russia on the short term may benefit-more land for agriculture, little effect of sea-levelrise, China and US are already getting damage due to climate change). To deal with new dangers Russia and the US need talks (DJ-and there is a major problem) or deal with the consequences. (DJ-another remark could be that Russia and China may integrate their military-once-even more than Israel and the US did. It is not only the US against Russia.) East Ghouta https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/militants-attack-humanitarian-corridor-east-ghouta-russian-mod/ (DJ-so much for any ceasefire) Turkey https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-threatens-turkey-sanctions-case-russian-s-400-purchase-reports/ DJ Turkey-US relations "not improving" https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201802271062038752-erdogan-cririsized-weeping-martyr/ No Mr. Erdogan most 6 year old girls are not happy with the idea of "dying for your country".http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-us-turkey-talks-over-afrin-foreign-ministry-127963 and http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-mulls-purchase-of-uss-f35-b-for-future-airplane-carrier-127923 (There are several problems for Turkey to get the F35. The US may not want to sell it to Turkey, Turkey also does not have the money to buy it (The Russian S-400 's are on credit-and not yet in Turkey). Iraq https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201802271062035139-iraq-russia-defense/ DJ-Several countries are thinking of buying S-400 from Russia-the US threatens those countries with sanctions. NATO-Russia https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/endgame-russia-nato-sprawl-invades-eastern-europe-no-more-illusions and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-26/pros-and-cons-nord-stream-2 (DJ-Maybe it is very simple-if you want to control the world you need to control finance, energy, logistics) UK https://uk.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-uk-may-join-us-strikes-against-syria-if-chemical, https://uk.liveuamap.com/en/2018/26-february-britain-ballistic-missiles-from-yemen-targeted, https://uk.liveuamap.com/en/2018/26-february-uk-summoning-russian-ambassador-to-discuss-continued DJ-After the US the UK is "most active" western country in the Middle East. http://theduran.com/uk-ready-support-al-qaeda-jihadists-airstrikes-support-another-assad-chemical-weapons-false-flag/ https://www.rt.com/uk/419925-saudi-ghouta-johnson-airstrikes/ Israel |
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Syria
US-coalition fighting pro-Assad forces in East Syria http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-deir-ezzur-hear-the-sound-of-explosions-coming, http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-deir-ezzur-eastern-countryside-skirmishes-between, http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-deir-ezzur-eastern-countryside-the-assad-government Most likely linked to: Looks like-SDF Kurds want to see if a deal with pro-Assad forces can be made without the US blocking it-answer is "No". https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-stay-syria-daesh-defeat-centcom/ and https://www.rt.com/usa/419986-centcom-vote-syria-iran-russia/ : Russia threatens US ability to dominate. IS-rael (Israel is one of many countries giving (in)directly weapons to IS) US-Iran-Saudi Arabia https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-27/us-escalates-threat-against-iran-after-russia-un-veto and https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-start-talks-saudis-multi-billon-atomic-energy-deal/ DJ; US planning to give nuclear weapons capability to Saudi Arabia but want more sanction for Iran US https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-27/us-government-lost-12-trillion-2017, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-27/rand-corporation-proves-link-between-us-military-and-hybrid-war Russia http://theduran.com/sanctions-continue-to-work-in-russias-favor-as-investment-rating-is-raised/, https://www.rt.com/business/419820-russia-outpaces-china-gold/ Korea DJ-Looking at what the US/NATO did for Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine etc. a "western" intervention in Korea most likely will not bring better living conditions for the Koreans. History DJ-Some 400 years ago protestants and catholics were killing each other all over Europe. Over 30% of the population of what now is called Germany got killed. Catholics wanted to pull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther out of his grave to burn the remains of his corpse. A little more than 200 years ago Napoleon did find his Waterloo (just south of Brussel(s) Belgium). A 100 years ago we were in the last year of World War 1-which continued in Russia, Turkey in "civil" wars up to 1922. Of course starting a war is a big investment-poor people do not start wars they die in it. Still the main question is why do people even think they have any right to hurt or even kill other people ? If we had nuclear weapons 400 years ago live on Earth would have ended. Are humans a planetary disease, a virus killing all live on Earth in many ways out of stupidity ? "If we do not end wars, wars will end us" is a reality more now than even a few decades ago! We have to stop this collective suïcide-not only for ourselves, but also for other species, next generations. We do not have any right to destroy our planet.
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US/NATO-wars
DJ-Of course NATO is involved in many wars, from Ukraine, Libya, to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria. Still that seems to be not enough-wars with Iran, Korea, Russia, China and even https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-27/usaf-general-warns-space-war-matter-years are good investments for zillions of taxpayers $, €, pounds, etc. (Why care about healthcare, education, climate change, housing-as long as people accept "politicians" spending public money on destruction and endless suffering). Syria-Manbij https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-february-manbij-frontline-near-sajur---, https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-february-the-commanding-general-of-cjtfoir-iiicorpscg (DJ-Next frontline within a week ? Turkey http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-slams-us-state-department-over-syria-cease-fire-comments-128011 is "fighting terrorists" wich are excluded from any ceasefire-in Turkeys eyes.) US/UK https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-accuses-us-uk-attempting-cover-complicity-yemen-war/ and https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/02/27/we-hanged-nazis-for-doing-what-is-in-this-article-waging-an-offensive-war/; The US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia and Jordan have meetings on how to keep the Syria-war going. How to damage Russia and Iran. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/28/553878/Iran-Hassan-Rouhani-Saudi-Arabia-Yemen (DJ-US and UK responsible for the Saudi-genocide in Yemen) Afghanistan http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/28/553873/Afghanistan-Taliban-peace-President-Ghani (DJ-Peace in Afghanistan must be a horror for US/NATO. By its strategic position US/NATO can "influence" (by IS, other proxy-groups) Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan from Afghanistan. The Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India pipeline is under NATO-control. With the China Pakistan Economic Corridor hoping to include also Afghanistan http://www.atimes.com/article/afghanistan-ready-play-connector-role-eurasian-integration// the US could loose more control. ) Iran DJ-In the US view the US had "good relations"with Iran till 1979. The Shah-dictatorship for most Iranians was a nightmare. The total lack of self-reflection by the US is shocking. "Making mistakes is human, repeating them is stupid"-does the US not learn anything from history ? https://southfront.org/satellite-photos-allegedly-show-iran-establishing-new-base-in-syria/ Fox-news claiming Iran is building a base in Syria-to open the door to fight Iran in Syria. New Arms Race DJ-Putting more money in mini-nukes, stealth-bombers etc-the world is not getting more safe. Propaganda-wars https://southfront.org/eric-zuesse-americas-news-media-foment-hate/ (DJ-Eric Zuesse on the US propaganda"press" laying the foundation for more wars-with Russia etc. "Totalitarian democracy"is a contradiction in itself-any totalitarian state is a dictatorship under control of an elite. No room anymore for "alternative media" with "conspiry-stories" https://www.infowars.com/cnn-is-directly-lobbying-youtube-to-shut-down-infowars/ The public is not intelligent to make up their own mind ?)
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Anti-US-group Raqqa https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-new-syrian-faction-declares-resistance-usa-occupation-raqqa/ DJ-Kurds may need to make a deal with the Assad/Syrian government since the US can not protect the Kurds against (NATO ally) Turkey. East Syria https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syria-accuses-us-coalition-massacring-another-30-civilians-deir-ezzor/, https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-february-28-2018-us-reportedly-strikes-govt-forces-syrian-army-responds/ (pro-Assad/US still fight for the same oilfields as when US attacked pro-Assad forces february 7. (Only this time pro-Assad forces do have airdefense) Chemical weapons http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-february-bashar-aljaafari-the-syrian-governments-permanent and https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201802281062090791-russia-syria-chemical-weapons-provocations/ Lebanon https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-28/war-coming-southern-lebanon-lindsey-graham-warns-israel-planning-invasion DJ-Whenever US politicians visit Israel they will hear the Israeli story of threats from Hezbollah and Iran. The main goal is to get more US support. (DJ-One of the reasons Netanyahu has lots of contacts with Putin (by phone or visit) is that Israel knows Russia is able to influence the region-the US is not. Israel wants money and weapons from the US, solutions from Russia.)https://www.debka.com/saudis-summon-lebanese-pm-moments-beirut-falls-iranian-orbit/ DJ-Hezbollah/Lebanon now is stronger than in 2000 and 2006-Israel will not attack Hezbollah/Lebanon without US (a.o.) help-a Lebanon war will get Syria involved as well. (Russia has a lot of interest to avoid such a war-Russia want to end the Syria-war, it is getting expensive-one card the US has is endurance.) Propaganda-press http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/new-york-times-time-warps-back-to-2002-makes-new-bogus-wmd-claims.html DJ-Prior to the 2003 Iraq-invasion (with WMD-lie as excuse-against international law-this invasion in itself was a US/UK warcrime) "media" build a basis for war with propaganda. Now stories of Iran building a basis in Syria, Syria buying chemical weapons from North Korea is meant to do the same. Only on a much larger scale. https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-sources-north-korea-sends-missile-experts-syria-materials-chemical-warfare/ Dirty wars https://sputniknews.com/us/201802281062091205-four-countries-us-arsonist/ DJ-In Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria the US started a war then came as "peacekeepers". (You could include several other countries on that list, Yugoslavia, Ukraine). Russia/Syria https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-map-update-east-ghouta-battle-2/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-destroys-rebel-mortar-site-attack-damascus-video/ http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/28-february-russia-to-establish-a-military-base-near-damascus DJ-Russia did invest a lot in Syria and has to defend its interests. On the other hand Israel prefers a Russian base near Damascus above an Iranian base. Such a base could bring (some) stability. Korea http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/28/553854/South-Korea-US-joint-drill-North-Korea-warning DJ-For the time being a US-Australia-India-Japan coalition is supposed to "control China". How Korean-talks will go on is a matter of time. (I would not be surprised when high China/Russia officials visit South Korea soon.) https://sputniknews.com/military/201802281062093233-china-nuclear-powered-carrier-within-years/
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Syria
Israeli News Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7RI4NS5MMs Latest US bombings in East Syria seem to be helping IS. In East Ghouta "rebels" put civilians in cages to claim "Russia/Syria killing civilians" at the same time the "rebels" are shelling Damascus. http://theduran.com/un-feigns-outrage/ (a.o. Russian embassy https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/wont-tolerate-shelling-russian-embassy-territory-putin-video/ DJ Do those rebels get coordinates from "western advisers"in the area-or western "instructors"in Israel, Jordan ? On Deir ez-Zur/East Syria-is it a US plan to re-connect several IS held parts to "restart IS"-as an excuse to claim the US has a "legal ground to be in Syria"? More and more indications for IS=US-the only way Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan can get rid of IS is to get rid of US.) https://southfront.org/escalation-in-syria-how-far-can-the-russians-be-pushed/ Longer video on how the US (by proxy) is attacking Russia in Syria. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803011062105652-militants-move-freely-at-tanf-syria/ The US has 20 bases in Syria-works with "militants". https://www.debka.com/mivzak/moscow-20-us-bases-set-kurdish-areas-syria/ http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/1-march-east-ghouta-alquds-brigade-based-in-aleppo-sent-fighters Palestine Liberation Army fighting with pro-Assad forces in East Ghouta. Turkey https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803011062105491-turkey-envoy-plan/ (Veterans Today had the story on US-UK-France-KSA-Jordan meetings on Syria yesterday) Turkey may have to make a choice (DJ-on how to deal with NATO, US-NATO will not accept a T-exit-will do everything they can to get Turkey under "NATO-control". Turkey is much to important for NATO with its BlackSea-coast, borders with Iran, Armenia, Syria. Most Turkish generals proberbly are pro-secular Turkey, conservative-could be willing to support another coup (or even larger civil war inside Turkey-in Turkey already the army is fighting the Kurds). https://southfront.org/russian-security-council-u-s-provoked-turkish-military-operation-in-afrin/ (old news-the story of a Kurdish Border Protection Force at Turkish border-with modern US weapons-was unacceptable. Israel https://southfront.org/israel-directly-arming-seven-militant-groups-syria-media/ (DJ-Israel wants to keep Hezbollah and Iran away from Golan Heights-Russia could suggest a Russian bufferzone ?) Alquada-state in NW Syria (DJ-The "west" and Gulf states keep calling these terrorists "rebels" and funds them, supplying them with arms.) Lebanon https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803011062110409-lebanese-army-beirut-radioactive-substance/ (not for military use) https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803011062116234-hezbollah-lebanon-victory-israel/ Israel would like to kill Hezbollah-leader. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/lebanese-president-visit-armenia-iraq/ (DJ-Armenia is very anti-Turkey, is Turkey a threat for Lebanon ?) Yemen https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803011062106241-us-no-support-coalition-yemen/ DJ-The US may welcome "a polite way" to stop enabling Saudi Arabia's genocide in Yemen. (DJ-The Yemen-war has no perspective-is damaging both for Saudi Arabia and the US. Iran, Russia, Turkey, China are building bases in several Red Sea countries while the US is stranded in endless wars.) Hypersonic weapons https://southfront.org/putin-new-hypersonic-icbm-is-breakthrough-for-russian-missile-program/ Mach 5+ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_speed 5500-6000 km/h-could strike any place on earth within hours. https://www.debka.com/mivzak/putin-announces-successful-tests-new-nuclear-powered-stealth-weapons/ https://www.rt.com/news/420171-nukes-us-russia-attack/ When attacked by US Russia will use nuclear weapons.
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DJ-The picture is very grim in my opinion. The US did attack Russian forces several time in Syria, is sending more weapons to Ukraine, making threats against North Korea, Iran, Venezuela. Also the US may be playing some sort of role (sabotage ?) in the downing of Russian civilian aircraft. The US is against Nordstream, Turkstream etc-bringing Russian oil and gas to Europe. The US want energy to remain linked to the US-dollar. (DJ-I can understand that-without that link the US$ is getting maybe just 30% of the present "value") Also the US is pushing for other trade-wars (to Make America Great Again-destroy (all) other countries ???). In the 17th century the Netherlands for a short while "ruled the world"-but we did loose Nieuw Holland (now New York, but also Australia once had that name-the Dutch navigators did discover Australia but we did not put any people there), Dutch Brazil (Recife, once Mauritsstad), Singapore, Decima (near Nagasaki-the Dutch were the only westerners doing trade with parts of Japan) at the end also South Africa (Suid Afrika) and in 1949 had to say goodbye to the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia). Still at present the Netherlands has the 17th economy in the world, Dutch as a language is in the top 40 of most spoken languages. After the Dutch the British could claim to "rule the world", most of Africa, South Asia and some countries in the America's fell under the British crown. In the first half of the 20th century that changed-after 1945 the US became the most dominant power. Both the Dutch and the British tried to hang on to their dominant role. The Dutch can blame Napoleon, the British hitler-for the end of their "power"-partly. An other part of course is that nobody can be on top forever. Both the Netherlands and the UK did not become third world countries with the end of empire. The US seems to hang on to the illusion of being the only superpower. In military might one could say that the Russian-China cooperation already ended that status. Also in economy the US can not stop loosing their top-position. In my opinion history shows that the military way to try to stop being "#1" is not working. It would be wiser when the US did invest in good infrastructure, healthcare, education and housing instead of spending "zillions" on war and weapons. I put a load of links-but the story in my view is clear; the US has to change its route if it does not want to get into "very major conflict" (with lots of surprises-all countries would like to minimize their own damage while putting the opponent out of the fight-when possible with one strike.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Vx_Rb3n0w Israeli News Live giving his summary of the situation. The Duran has several articles; http://theduran.com/putin-us-deployed-5-cruisers-30-destroyers-near-russian-borders/ (DJ-Does the US want to encourage the Ukraine to start an offensive against Eastern-Ukraine(/Russia) Also the Saker: http://thesaker.is/join-the-live-conversation-with-casus-belli-on-march-3rd-2018/ (Most likely a two hour conversation of "how things may develop") Preparations: http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2140-survive (DJ-I do not agree with Hal Turner on many issues-but I think he is also correct on the crisis in the US). http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2124-i-have-begun-the-process-of-planning-to-keep-this-web-site-publishing-in-the-event-war-breaks-out-and-the-us-is-attacked url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9KcQEmxGJY[/url] Israeli News Live-how you can keep in touch with them.... (DJ-The link to "Southfront"seems to be hacked, from time to time I can not get Press-TV (Iran) online. )
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http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/02/554097/Syria-Turkey-Afrin-Assad-YPG-Kurds-Assad and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-turkish-air-force-bombs-syrian-govt-forces-afrin-18-killed/, https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803021062151363-fox-news-fake-report-iran-military-base-syria/, DJ-The picture I am getting is that the US, UK and France back alquada in Syria-may even use "chemical weapons" as excuse for intervention. Turkey getting more and more in confrontation with pro-Assad forces. https://southfront.org/militants-prepare-to-stage-chemical-attack-in-eastern-ghouta-syrian-media/ http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/2-march-syrian-state-sana-citing-military-sources-armed-groups. https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-march-1-2018-syrian-army-overruns-militant-defenses-in-eastern-ghouta/ DJ When you compare East Ghouta with the Alleppo-battle-the west had "agents in the area". That west may have to hide their support for the "rebels".https://southfront.org/russia-syrian-army-threaten-militants-in-northwestern-hama-with-military-operation/. Situation keeps getting worse-not good ! Russia-US Korea Saudi Arabia Afghanistan Ukraine US |
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DJ-Good article AND good comments-summing up the basics of the US-Russia conflict; who can dominate the global energy market. Looking at the comments (and good links) also the confusion on the situation. The Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine wars are all energy related. The US would like to exclude Russia as much as possible-does need the US-petro-$. The reality for the US is: 1-https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/army-major-explains-why-us-military-should-stay-out-iran US military are already overstretched (DJ-And using proxy fighters, other countries, may need US control) 2-https://sputniknews.com/world/201803021062158331-germany-tariffs-steel-aluminum-trump/, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/faster-america-grows-faster-america-goes-bust, the US is close to bankrupt ( forget https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/hypersonic-arms-race-erupts-darpa-director-demands-more-funding-counter-russia-the "old" strategy of starting an arms-race to break down the Soviet Union may have backfired.) 3-The main global buyer of energy (or anything else for that matter) is China. Allthough their energy-crisis forces China to buy wereever they can "the market" still gives enough room for China to make demands (like the petro-yuan). For energy Asia (and the South Chine Sea) has a lot of energy to offer at low transport costs. The US-Trump-lacks realism. China's economy will get larger than the US economy. China (buyer) and Russia (seller, "door to Europe") share a very large border. Most likely even Trump would like to avoid "very major war(s)"-http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/03/554146/north-korea-China-US-UN, http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/02/554123/US-military-Mark-Milley-North-Korea-conflict, https://www.rt.com/op-ed/420336-us-turkey-syria-afrin/-wich will do more harm than good for the US. DJ-In my opinion US/Trump foreign policies: -Are almost breaking up NATO (Turkey-exit) -damage US trade https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/gmo-global-trade-war-would-lead-40-market-crash and relations with NAFTA, EU etc. -Are pushing many countrie away from the US (South Korea, Turkey, Pakistan) Since the fall of the Soviet Union the "west" did choose the wrong path, instead of cooperation with Russia and China they choose confrontation (Yugoslavia-war, NATO even in Afghanistan, Pakistan !). If the US-at present-is unable to find a way out of the crisis others (EU) have a responsibility. Russia and China want to get their share of the global market. International cooperation is better than global war. A "united west" (Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan) would have more than enough "weight in the balance" to avoid getting "under Russia/China rule". (The west has been doing trade with backward countries like Saudi Arabia for decades.) Further western confrontation (with Russia) will damage the west. Eastern Europe, Australia, South Korea have "limited room" and need the China-Russia market. Russia will not accept western agression (in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Korea) much longer. "Adventures" of Israel against Iran put the west at risk. The madness has to stop now !
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http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2148-breaking-news-turkey-directly-bombs-syrian-army-troops-dozens-killed-bombing-continuing, https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/3-march-afrinop-names-of-30-proassad-fighters-popular-forces DJ-Both in Afrin and in Deir Ezzor https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/3-march-deir-ezzur-eastern-countryside-air-raids-the-international pro-Assad forces under NATO attack (to give it that name. Turkey is still a NATO-member. It's operation against Kurds is more and more turning into an anti-Assad-pro jihadi's operation. In Eastern Syria the US is defending oilfields they did steel from the Assad-government (just like the US did steel Iraq-oil) DJ-Hal Turner is claiming that Syria may start bringing down Turkish planes in Syria airspace. (Some reports indicate Syria may have brought down a Turkish gunship-Turkey attacking Syrian forces a reaction). Russia would be trying to get some control on this fight. https://www.debka.com/trump-putin-netanyahu-try-back-away-violent-clash-syria/ DJ-On request of Israel Russia stopped Iran trying to get a navy-base in Syria (proberbly in return Iran may be allowed to use Russian facilities. Russia wants Israel to use its influence on the Kurds in Syria. When the Kurds would have accepted to be part of Syria under Assad there would not be a Turkish-Kurdish war. (DJ-Russia did NOT give Turkey permission to invade Afrin Syria. In Russian perspective Russia can not even give such permission-Syria is not Russian. Russia was informed by Erdogan; the (US backed) Kurds have to stop being a risk for Turkey otherwise we invade. Russia informed the Kurds (and Assad) on that. Turkey and Russia need eachother. In practice Israel may even be one of the reasons Russia is in Syria. If Russia would not be in Syria Iran would dominate Syria and Lebanon-Israel does not want that, can not stop that. The US is not in a position to do anything usefull any longer-Russia has the cards. Other reasons for Russia in Syria:1- protecting allies (after other long term friends of Russia/Soviet Union were lost; Libya, Iraq, Egypt (in a certain way) 2-oil/gas (for a part to be exploited by Russian companies, but also Dutch Shell is in Syria) 3-to get a control on Asia (also for working with China-New Silk Road is not only in interest of China, even more important for Russia-puts Russia in the middle.) https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/3-march-saa-tiger-forces-cut-road-betwen-shifuniyah-and-masraba Pro-Assad forces are taking over East Ghouta "high speed". Limited time for the "rebels" to come with "false flag-events" (and with active Russia/Syria air defense, Russia-Israeli talks on Iran-influence and limited goals-"the west" can have a "big mouth war-of-words but there is a limit to what they can do. NATO wants to keep Turkey in NATO at almost all costs, the US may have to accept some influence on Middle East energy for pulling out it's forces out of Syria, Iraq-and at the end also Afghanistan. The price for the US may become to high.) Ukraine https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/ukraine-freezes-after-russia-halts-gas-deliveries Transport of Siberian gas to the EU is an important source of income for the Ukraine. The Kiëv-junta does want to solve the "problems with the Russian minorities" in a military way. Russia is not willing to enable that. The US promis of more weapons (on credit-Ukraine is broke, corrupt to the bone-just like many other US allies) is making Russia to use this "weapon". Korea https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/lindsey-graham-fighting-war-north-korea-would-be-worth-it DJ-Of course when politicians want to start yet another war I think they should stand in front on the battlefield. (Most politicians never did see war, prevented their family for being in war. Maybe it should be asked from politicians when they decide on war and peace to have lived in a war for at least one year. You do not create hell once you have been there !) US Tradewars https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/trump-threatens-europe-we-will-apply-retaliatory-tax-their-cars DJ-US cars most of the time fail EU enviroment-rules. Trump does not care for the enviroment. The US may need some friends left when they "want to rule the world" after also breaking up NAFTA. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/will-foreigners-retaliate-trumps-trade-war-dumping-us-treasuries DJ starting a tradewar with South Korea and China-at the same time expecting them to do what the US wants them to do does not work. US-Saudi Arabia https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/middle-easts-nuclear-technology-clock-starts-ticking DJ Making a Saudi nuclear weapon possible while trying everything to stop nuclear energy in Iran-and protecting Israel's nuclear weapons put the US in an impossible Middle East position. (Of course it is unwise to do any deals with the Saud royal over 10.000 people-family claiming they own Saudi Arabia. KSA is one of the most corrupt anti-democratic countries in the world. Supporter of IS, alquada etc. doing any kind of deals with Saudi Arabia is doing deals with (global) wahabi-terrorists.) China https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/change-coming-china-accelerating-its-plan-military-base-pakistan and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/tiny-island-nation-youve-never-heard-has-become-global-battleground DJ-China did open bases in Djibuti (NE Africa-Red Sea, on the other side Yemen), is working on bases in Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Pakistan. (Most likely already involved in Syria. Several thousend IS fighters come from western China.) China working very close with Pakistan is making India working with Iran (and Myamar-both those countries have problems with the US). The Japan-Australia-India-US anti China pact will not last long. Australia needs the China market (and China will remember the present Australia government of it !). South Korea is interested in the Asia-market-Japan will follow that road when things get more clear. India has always had good relations with Russia. The US wants TAPI not IPI ! (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India oil/gas pipeline not Iran-Pakistan-India oil/gas pipeline) China wants to integrate both TAPI and IPI in a pipeline network supplying China with (a.o.) Russian energy. (The US did forget that a pipeline can be made longer-so it would connect Russia with Turkmenistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States#Membership) India needs the Chinese market to get their economy to grow. (They can not afford any major war-India is already dealing with climate change, agriculture-crises. Famine is around the corner. Russia is producing more grain/food, the US less-do to climate change. A global food-crisis is on its way, a matter of just a few years-at best.) "Press" https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/zuesse-americas-news-media-foment-hate, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/bill-mahers-rules-identifying-fake-news. DJ-The idea of a "free press" with most of the income for news coming from advertisors, press being an "industry"for profit may be outdated. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-03/one-company-now-owns-over-7-sp500-market-cap The "media" did become part of investments for multinationals-not only for profit also to create "market conditions", lobby-work. "Control of the info = control of investments". Where humans work human interests work. (Nothing is "holy", there are no "saints". People do things for their own reasons. DJ-I do like to understand the world we live in-how we came to this point in time, what the future may bring (scenario's).
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http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/syria-sitrep-afrin-idlib-and-east-ghouta.html DJ-good overview, good comments Talks https://www.debka.com/mivzak/161416/ Netanyahu-Trump on Iran https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803051062223141-syria-eastern-ghouta-turkey-france/ (DJ-Afrin has 1 million inhabitants-Turkey may have killed over 3000, East Ghouta has (maximum) 400.000 hostages kept by terrorists (even for UN)-NATO has to defend the terrorists and not the Kurds ?) Israel https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803051062227333-israel-iran-military-presence-syria/DJ; Netanyahu is facing prison for corruption-so he needs an enemy to stay in power. US https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803041062208032-soleimani-documents-reportedly-prooving-us-daesh-collusion/ and https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803051062226964-iraq-us-presence-daesh-terrorists/ DJ-The US created alquada, IS, etc to make an excuse for staying in the Middle East. Iran https://www.rt.com/news/420435-france-iran-sanctions-missiles/ DJ-Europe has 3M's May. Merkel and Macron. Macron thinks he is Napoleon. Making an Iran-deal unworkable could split the EU even further. Egypt https://www.debka.com/egypt-conducts-first-ever-air-strikes-nile-delta-terrorist-targets/ DJ-The situation in Egypt under el-Sisi is getting worse. "Rebels" between Cairo and Alexandria looks like bad news. El-Sisi depends on Saudi money. Niger https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-graphic-video-us-special-forces-troops-film-getting-gunned-isis-ambush-west-africa/ DJ- Four US soldiers murdered by IS DJ-After the Putin speech comments went from "chance for Putin-Trump meeting" to "Russia almost declaring war". Most likely somewere in between the extremes. Considerations: -The US military is already overstretched-unless there are "new troops" the US is not ready for another major war. -Russia-as long as Putin can claim Russia is gaining something in the Middle East he will remain popular in Russia (He will win the March 18 elections). Russia has moved itself on the negotiating table-while the US made themselves impossible for most Middle East/Muslim countries. But Russia has to show results (soon) ! -Israel-Netanyahu is trying to stay out of prison-but he may face arrest for corruption soon. That puts Israel in a position not to start any conflict. (Proberbly the military and political "top" will stop Netanyahu from doing "stupid things") -Iran needs Russia and China. Does want good relations with EU. Also here for political reasons limits on actions. -Turkey, Erdogan may get himself moving into other parts of Syria. This puts him in risk for war with Syria. "Conflict" with Iran and Russia. Still if Turkey can get EU-membership, extra western investments etc (or the promis of) he may take those steps. Erdogan is a "wild card many countries want to get rid of him. -China does need the New Silk Road to keep its economy going. So more "push" towards Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey (and Russia). -Korea-the unificationdream is far from over. South Korea wants to send a delegation to North Korea for (more) talks. Russia and China proberbly very involved. The US seems to keep repeating itself-NK has to give up its nukes before any talks with the US. (Even the EU wants the US to think of something better). All-in-all; the US by trade-wars (sanctions are a part of it) is getting isolated. On some issues the US may get some support (France and UK want to keep some influence in the Middle East). The US foreign policy is getting less support around the globe. DJ-The US "problem" is "wild-capitalism" in wich companies tell the government what to do. Inside the US is becoming almost a police state, outside the US only thinks in conflict. That does not work well !
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Korea US-perspective:http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2177-breaking-trump-to-meet-kim-jung-un-by-may China-perspective:https://news.cgtn.com/news/316b544e786b7a6333566d54/share_p.html Russia-perspective:https://www.rt.com/usa/420830-korea-kim-trump-letter/, http://theduran.com/lavrov-trump-kim-talks-consider-step-right-direction/ DJ-https://www.globalresearch.ca/north-korea-deafening-silence-around-the-moon-putin-plan/5625321 is in progress. To put it a bit cynical; Putin is giving Trump room to solve the (US-made) Korea-crisis on Russia/China terms. Syria https://www.debka.com/ayatollah-khamenei-is-lone-nuclear-holdout-after-kims-invitation-to-trump/. DJ In recent days again the US came with chemical weapons-story, Israel would like to "somebody do something with Iran". Reality is that Russia is in a position to deal with the situation-the US is not. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-kicks-off-powerful-pincer-assault-to-split-east-damascus-pocket-into-3-parts/ East Ghouta last days as "rebel-zone". Afrin https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkish-troops-to-enter-afrin-city-at-any-moment-erdogan/ falling in Turkish hands. "The west" has to sit and watch the events. They could drop some bombs on some pro-Assad forces and than what ? It will not make any change. Afghanistan and NE-Africa https://southfront.org/contest-for-the-horn-of-africa/ becoming new frontlines.
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Afrin-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvEvNOtIwp8 Israeli News Live is correct on the US/NATO/Gulf States support on the genocide in Afrin on the Kurds. The Turkey-Kurdish war is going on for decades in Turkey supported by NATO. The "Free Syrian Army" (alquada etc.) did sell Kurds on Gaziantep-Turkey slavemarket, did "take Kurdish young girls" as "bride". http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/syria-the-fall-of-two-cities.html DJ-It is no coincidence that while Turkey is taking over Afrin (and the Kurds for the 5th time refused to be part of Syria http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/11-march-today-the-syrian-government-offered-the-kurdish-so they may end up under Turkish/FSA terror) pro-Assad forces are taking over East Ghouta https://southfront.org/map-update-military-situation-in-eastern-ghouta-following-liberation-of-madiera/#disqus_thread and http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/11-march-eastern-damascus-assad-forces-also-made-some-progress and https://southfront.org/media-accuses-syrian-army-of-using-chemical-weapons-after-militants-defense-collapses-in-eastern-ghouta-map-video/ SW-Syria Korea The world was surprised by the announcement that North Korean Leader Kim Jung Un sought a meeting with US President Donald Trump, and that the President accepted. The mass-media was quick to presume the meeting was sought because sanctions against North Korea are beginning to hurt. That assessment is wrong. Those in the Intelligence Community were decidedly NOT surprised by the requested meeting; they knew what _really_ brought North Korea to its senses: The newly reinforced USS Wasp putting to sea last Monday with F-35B Stealth jets . . . and (at least) twenty, B-61-12 nuclear bombs. North Korea was literally one week away from being nuked . . . on March 16 beginning at 8:11 AM eastern US time. |
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With reports like these https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803121062441058-french-weapons-found-in-eastern-ghouta/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-military-reportedly-finds-us-army-rations-in-cave-used-by-daesh-photos/ and looking at relations between NATO, Israel and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Cooperation_Council and https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_151144.htm one can claim that the "Syria civil war" is a NATO project (just like the wars in Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan). East Ghouta https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-update-from-east-ghouta-battle-map/, https://southfront.org/infighting-erupts-among-militant-groups-in-eastern-ghouta-russian-defense-ministry/ the US and France have something to hide https://southfront.org/u-s-officially-threatens-to-strike-syrian-army-if-it-continues-operation-in-eastern-ghouta/ DJ-The US has a problem when Syria, Iran, Russia deal with terrorists ? https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-march-12-2018-militants-defense-collapsed-in-eastern-ghouta/ and http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/12-march-syrian-military-forces-have-captured-jisreen-in Pro-Assad forces at this moment may not need chemical weapons-most of the fighting is with infantry/tanks in urban area's-close to the enemy-so https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-envoy-to-un-accuses-al-nusra-front-of-using-chemical-weapons-in-east-ghouta/ is much more likely. "The west" still may welcome this excuse-goal would be-in my opinion-to destroy evidence and/or witnesses of the role "the west" is playing. Afrin https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/12-march-according-to-ridha-albasha-ypg-have-handed-control, https://southfront.org/map-update-military-situation-in-syrian-area-of-afrin-on-march-12-2018/ DJ-All indications are; 1-pro-Assad forces taking over (some) Kurdish positions in Afrin. 2-pro-Assad forces has been fighting "Free Syrian Army" etc. elsewere and may confront them in Afrin (maybe in defense). 3-Most likely Turkey and Syria (Iran, Russia) want to avoid major battles between the Turkish and Syrian (regular) Army. https://southfront.org/ypg-handing-over-checkpoints-near-tell-rifaat-menagh-airbase-to-government-forces-reports/ SW-Syria https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-backed-syrian-forces-mass-near-daraa-to-ease-pressure-on-eastern-ghouta/, https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/12-march-for-the-first-time-since-9-july-the-warplanes-carried this is close to; Israel KSA Iran Turkey Korea https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-12/could-trump-kim-summit-succeed DJ-Is Kim/NK buying time ? DJ-I take http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2203-the-back-story-what-brought-north-korea-to-the-bargaining-table very serious. The US may have been thinking of using 20 nuclear weapons to destroy NK facilities at 100/150 meter (300/450feet) depth in the ground within a few weeks. In my opinio it is a stupid plan: 1-those weapons will spread radioactivity by themselves and by destroying nuclear installations. 2-such an attack would start NK attacks on whatever is in reach (proberbly including Japan, Guam, sleeper-cells in the US/EU) 3-such an attack is unacceptable for both Russia and China. It is a "first-strike"form of battle-wich the US could also use against them. 4-all peacefull ways have to end-a real risk for the US-with NK realy pointing ICBM's and proof for usage should be there before you even consider such a nuclear attack. Killing millions of Koreans, possibly starting world war 3 is not something one can do. UK http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/theresa-mays-45-minutes-claim.html DJ-Will someone place put Theresa May in a mental hospital ? (Used poison was made in Uzbekistan-that country-with US help destroyed the facility. Both US and UK know how to make the same "secret" poison from the seventies.) http://theduran.com/skripal-case-theresa-may-now-demands-russia-prove-itself-innocent/ DJ-The UK can not proof "putin did it" so now "Putin has to proof he did not try to kill someone who was playing a role in the Clinton claim of Russia trying to control the US elections".
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo#Military_and_national_security, http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/13/555360/Pompeo-running-state-department-very-negative-and-dangerous-Analyst A Tea-party-member running the CIA since january 2017 now becoming secretary of state. DJ-The US goes on the way to war. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/trump-votes-for-rexit-torture-girl-to-become-cia-director.html Syria Afrin-https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-forces-rush-tanks-troops-towards-east-afrin-to-secure-major-base-and-key-town/ DJ-After Kurdish YPG collapsed pro-Assad forces trying to safe as much as they can in Afrin. Manbij-http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/13-march-correspondent-of-aleppo-24-denies-all-the-news-about, http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/13-march-sdf-leadership-delivers-protest-note-to-us-led-coalition DJ-US moving out of Manbij (to allow Turkey moving in ? Strategy behind it could be to overstretch pro-Assad forces over as much as possible fronts). East Ghouta-https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-russian-navy-unleashes-cruise-missiles-on-east-damascus-reports/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-warplanes-pair-up-with-russian-jets-to-level-rebel-targets-across-east-damascus-in-massive-attack/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-air-force-unleashes-unprecedented-amount-of-airstrikes-over-east-ghouta/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-air-force-bombs-fsa-hq-in-east-ghouta-many-commanders-killed/ DJ-NOTE:-With that US/Turkey backed Free Syrian Army could be "western advisors". http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2212-scattered-reports-of-sudden-large-attack-in-syria-east-ghouta-area-conflicting-reports-of-who-did-what Looks like Russia/Syria see the "many fronts" coming and want to deal with it fast. https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-march-13-2018-us-officially-threatens-to-strike-syrian-army/ and https://southfront.org/lavrov-us-strike-on-syria-will-have-grave-consequences/. DJ-https://southfront.org/conflict-syria-forecasting-escalation-scenario/ with this many-desperate-"parties" involved a lot of things can get out of control. -Syria/Russia will use maximum air-defense against anyone they do not want above Syria. (This may start to involve Turkey when Turkey does not follow Russian, Iran "requests") -The "rebels" are out of control, many-including chemical-weapons within reach of fighters not knowing what they are doing. -US, UK, France, Israel, Turkey, Gulf States have a lot to hide in Syria.They may want to destroy evidence against them what would show that this "Syrian civil war" in fact was a NATO operation with Gulf States and Israel. Ukraine -DJ-With the US now selling anti-tank weapons, possibly soon selling air defense to Kiev-situation worsening Korea -Kim maybe was surprised Trump accepted his invitation for a meeting ? Still DJ-my impression-the US may believe they can solve this conflict in a military way (and all who say "no" loose their job). -Israel-Netanyahu staying in power is the anti-Iran agenda as Israel's top-priority -KSA-"crown-prince"(and mega-fraud) MbS visiting Theresa May/UK buying even more weapons-getting UK support for his genocide in Yemen DJ-Something has to change very fast if "we"want to avoid "major war" much bigger than the Syria, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya wars. US and Russia in confrontation-mode in many area's. Pretty close to undecleared (global) war. |
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https://www.debka.com/trump-shakeup-at-the-top-pompeo-us-secy-of-state-gina-haspel-cia-chief/ DJ-Netanyahu has good relations with Putin. Israel needs the US for war, Russia for peace.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/03/13/unconfirmed-russia-reinforcing-syria-for-trump-netanyuhu-onslaught/ DJ-Russia sending a very clear message to the US, UK, Israel: Stay out of Syria ! I list this as “unconfirmed” simply because this was leaked to us for publication with a purpose. What that purpose is and whether the information is true or not remains to be seen. However, this comes from sources “highest” and includes a message we believe is intended for US, Israeli and Saudi commanders planning to hit Syria over the misreported/fabricated gas attacks. Not to belabor the point but the idea that the Syrian Arab Army that is totally kicking the ass of the terrorists in East Ghouta is more than unlikely to resort to using chlorine gas. The idea is demented and the US government and mainstream media makes me sick. Ah, but I am getting off subject. Anyway, Damascus is under both Russian and Syrian air cover tonight, with sonic booms shaking windows. Dean thinks planes are aloft to keep them safe from Trump’s tired Tomahawk missiles. Whatever the reason, it is a show of force. More important, Russian sources say they have put the entirety of Israel and Lebanon under an air defense umbrella of newly deployed S400 batteries flown into Syria and quickly deployed over the last 24 hours. Additionally other systems, all under Russian command, stand ready to shoot down any American planes that attempt to carry out the attacks promised by Trump over the last 24 hours as expressed by America’s UN Ambassador Haley. Now we wait. Trump promised to attack Syria if they continue to fight against the US backed terrorists that have been attacking civilian areas of Damascus for over 5 years. Russia just told Trump to, as Kurt Vonnegut would have put it, “Take a flying f%& at a rolling donut, take a flying f#%% at the moon.” Trump might well chase that rolling donut, he has chased everything else. The gauntlet is down. What I don’t want to see is American pilots killed or paraded through the streets of Damascus. They are still our boys even though I sometimes wish they didn’t take orders from the “grocery clerks” at the Pentagon so freely. |
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https://southfront.org/five-seconds-world-war-3/ US preparing war against Russia in Syria, Ukraine. https://southfront.org/u-s-centcom-russia-iran-prevent-syria-from-moving-forward-russian-air-defenses-threaten-u-s-air-powers-dominance/ http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/14-march-death-toll-has-risen-to-8-progovernment-fighters and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-turkish-warplanes-bomb-syrian-forces-and-shiite-majority-town-in-north-aleppo/ DJ-A next step could be bringing down Turkish aircraft over Syria (or even moving towards Syria). (The next step would be war Syria/Turkey) UK-Russia https://sputniknews.com/europe/201803141062513342-minister-reveals-possible-measures-against-russia-in-spy-poisoning/ and https://sputniknews.com/europe/201803141062517549-uk-unsc-meeting-skripal/, http://theduran.com/russia-britain-24-hour-ultimatums-will-not-tolerated/, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-14/britain-expel-russian-diplomats-after-midnight-deadline-expires-without-moscow DJ-International situation worsening by the hour. https://www.government.nl/latest/news/2018/03/01/the-netherlands-begins-term-as-president-of-un-security-council (I worry we-as Netherlands- may end up in a very difficult position)
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https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-british-governments-russia-nerve-agent-claims-are-bull*****-a69b4ee484ce, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-14/russia-slams-unprecedented-hostile-uk-action-vows-retaliation (DJ-When the UK claim is meant to influence the march 18 Russian presidential election it most likely will backfire). http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/theresa-mays-novichok-claims-fall-apart.html https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377 The double-spy murdered may have given Russia much more info on the UK than the UK on Russia. https://sputniknews.com/news/201803141062528831-corbyn-novichok-evidence-chemicals/, https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803141062534625-spy-poisoning-uk-foolish/, http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48948.htm Syria-Turkey https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-pounds-turkish-forces-in-response-to-latest-deadly-airstrike-pictures/, https://southfront.org/turkish-army-captures-more-villages-in-afrin-syrian-army-starts-deployment-south-of-afrin-photos-video/ Trade wars https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-14/trade-war-us-launches-wto-challenge-indian-export-subsidy-program, https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-14/here-comes-main-event-trade-war-china-and-what-section-301 Korea |
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https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803141062525306-israel-talks-russia-gas-field-lebanon/, (DJ-Lebanon and Israel will welcome "neutral partners" (like Russia, France (Total) and Italy (ENI)) to get an income-without costs for another war-out of oil/gas) http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/14/555477/Russian-firm-to-redevelop-Iranian-oil-fields and http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/14/555454/Chinese-firm-to-fund-Iran-plane-purchases (China company-for oil-enabling Iran to buy Airbus (EU) and Boeing (US) planes) DJ-The "west" wants to control oil-hoping it can control the world by doing so. Problems; -China is the world main energy importer -Russia, Iran, Venezuela are not under "western control" and have a lot of oil. The level of insanity and madness the "west" goes to in getting control of energy is going out of control. Climate change is one good reason to get rid of fossil fuels, endless wars is another reason. Syria https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/03/14/trumps-jihadi-chemical-weapons-factory-captured-in-ghouta-in-living-color/ Syrian Arab News Agency showing a chemical weapons factory they claim was in jihadi-hands. Also showing (a.o.) UK medical gear https://www.hill-rom.co.uk/uk-wich can be bought on the internet. (Also the UK poison-claim blaming Putin just before the Russian elections is simply weak http://theduran.com/theresa-may-expels-23-russian-diplomats-as-deep-state-false-flag-poisoning-serves-its-purpose/ DJ-Do I believe Russia-Putin is willing to kill people for political reasons-yes-but he is not the only one-most countries may do so. Is using a poison with Soviet fingerprints the most likely way-just before the Russian elections-for Putin to deal with a former GRU-agent released by Russia ? A robbery or accident would raise less questions. ) War Starting a war with Iran, (North)Korea (against the will of South Korea) or "(further) intervention" in Syria may be overstretching NATO. https://www.unian.info/politics/2389424-hungary-blocks-nato-ukraine-defense-commission.html The "west" is at war in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria, several African (semi)states-supporting countries like Ukraine, Saudi Arabia in more-endless-wars. Of course selling weapons is a main source of income http://dimdex.com/ for the US, UK, France-so wars are always welcomed by their "politicians"-now Russia and China are taking that market as well. What is the use of war when you can not make a profit out of it ? The Russians and Chinese are a danger to "free enterprise". Not only do they trade energy without "western" control (a.o. US-petro-$) they even make their own weapons ! (With Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia buying them). Since the world is "owned" by a small rich elite only interested in getting more power another war is unavoidable.
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http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/15/555499/South-Korea-North-Korea-peace-initiative-China-Russia-support and http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/14/555405/Japan-Abe-North-Korea-Trump-Kim Moon meets Kim end of April, no surprise Russia and Japan support Korean peace initiative. (DJ-The US is the problem) Ukraine http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/15/555543/Ukraine-Parliament-Terror-Attack and https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-15/maidan-icon-faces-arrest-admitting-ukraine-official-led-snipers-central-kiev The Kiev-western backed junta-did shoot and kill demonstrators to start their "revolution". Of course-again-"the west" blames Russia. Syria/Turkey https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-turkey-will-not-hand-over-afrin-to-syrian-government-after-seizing-it-erdogans-spokesperson/, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-turkish-us-forces-in-syria-to-form-safe-zone-around-manbij-city-erdgoans-spokesperson/, DJ-With Afrin slowly falling in Turkish hands Erdogan has to make-again-clear what his position is. If Turkey is in Syria to long-term occupy Northern Syria Erdogan may have a major problem. http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/14-march-sdf-has-amassed-forces-near-the-khasham-pocket-and DJ-Most likely in Deir Ezzor not many Kurds left-and those who remain there will not be happy to fight against pro-Assad forces while those forces are also fighting Turkey in Afrin. This "SDF" is a renamed by US IS-force ? East Ghouta http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/15/555539/Syria-Eastern-Ghouta-Evacuation Is getting under pro-Assad control. "the west" against Russia http://theduran.com/us-and-its-puppet-states-issue-joint-statement-on-skripal-poisoning-blaming-russia/ DJ-This story is getting insane. Russia had no real motive, better, more clever ways to do a murder, and most likely would have choosen another timing. I do not believe-for a second-Putin is a saint. But the UK story http://theduran.com/jimmy-dore-blasts-uk-poisoning-hoax-doesnt-pass-the-smell-test/ is very weak. http://theduran.com/nikki-haley-lays-down-foundation-for-war-with-russia-says-chemical-weapons-could-be-used-here-in-new-york-video/, http://theduran.com/paul-craig-roberts-world-war-3-is-approaching/ Wars starting on lies are very common in history; from Poland invading Germany-hitler had to react, to the lies for wars against Iraq, Libya etc. Only a few people make money out of war-most other people suffer (20% of the Russians died in 1941-45, 25% of the Belarus population. During the Korean War 1950-53 over 10% of the North Koreans lost their live.) A "modern-global-war" will most likely kill us all-even without nuclear weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnAIUZIt8M Jimmy Dore-why serious questions on proof from Jeremy Corbyn are dangerous ? The US/UK is using chemicals in Yemen-genocide. VX-UK-made-was used to kill the half-brother of NK-Kim. Several countries have the "Soviet chemical weapon" as "self defence".
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"press/propaganda-outlets":https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/technology/saudi-arabia-hacks-cyberattacks.html and http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/21/cyber-attack-targets-safety-system-at-saudi-aramco/ (why the nytimes now is supposed to be news-in december 2017 fp had a same story-claiming Iran/Russia behind a cyberattack at Saudi Aramco)-DJ More "grounds" for war with Russia and Iran ? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/mbs-saudis-pursue-nuclear-weapons-iran-180315152433732.html KSA may get help from US/Israel-against Iran. UK-Russia "Russia started-so now we have to have chemical weapons also" https://southfront.org/skripal-poisoning-british-provcation/ (DJ-even at defcon some have doubts https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=11646&start=10 DJ-the point that WHEN Russia would have done this attack it was meant to send a message may have some relevence. https://www.debka.com/mivzak/joint-western-condemnation-of-nerve-agent-attack-on-russian-ex-spy/ (also https://www.debka.com/mivzak/new-us-sanctions-on-russian-entities-over-election-meddling/ has the west gone mad ?) http://thesaker.is/trump-may-merkel-and-macron-issue-joint-statement-blaming-russia-for-sergei-skripal-poisoning/ Syria https://southfront.org/white-helmets-accuse-assad-regime-using-chlorine-gas-eastern-ghouta-msm-repeats/ "white helmets=alquada "aid/MI6"-mix making another story western "media" may use-"politicians" can use "to protect Syrians from their government". Iran-Turkey-Azerbaijan-Georgia cooperation |
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There is no REASONABLE doubt that either Russia, or a breakaway faction within Russia organised the Skripal attack. Either way the buck sill stops with Putin. Everyone across the West knows this and Russia knows we all know.
Where diffrences arise is what to do next. Using a chemical weapon, outside wartime, that can only come from the chemical labs of an industrialised country, that is used against international treaties and provably so, is a fantastically bold move. To us, it looks as if Russia is treating us with absolute contempt. I would not know what the next move should be, but it must be brave and strong or Russia will just laugh louder. Chamberlain taught us where appeasement gets you. |
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Technophobe, there is disagreement on who is the agressor so also were appeasement is coming from.
The UK is in a Brexit-crisis. The European Medical Agency https://www.ft.com/content/4abde47b-1b6c-32e9-95cb-db363013b74e is moving from London to Amsterdam. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/15/unilever-brexit-rotterdam-hq-london Unilever did have two HQ's (just like Shell) Londen and Rotterdam. (Shell has a HQ in The Hague https://www.shell.com/about-us/contact-us.html#iframe=L2Zvcm1zL2VuX2NvbnRhY3RfdXM=).Unilever closing its London HQ (and maybe Shell doing the same soon) must be a nightmare for Theresa May. In my opinion the present-cold war-crisis is between the "old" west (US, EU, Australia, Japan) and a "new"east (Russia-China-New Silk Road). The present crisis-just before sunday's Russia presidential election is organised (by the west) on-at best-weak claims of Russia making Trump win the US election, causing Brexit etc. Also the chemical weapons claims in Syria-now (a new case) in the UK are not very strong. (The used poison is not only available for Russia, Russia did not have a clear reason to kill this former double agent.) NATO did move east, NATO countries invaded Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan-were behind the Ukraine coup. Let me be clear though-IF Russia was murdering people somewere in Europe for its own reasons it is an act of agression. Just like the US picking up people from EU streets because they believe the person to be a terrorist (a person with the "wrong" name-his name was also on a wanted-list-ended up in Guantanomo. ) The US deploying its Delta force without permission in Italy (then this force around a hijacked airplane in Sicily was surrounded by Italian special forces) etc. Referring to history-https://www.amazon.com/I-Paid-Hitler-Fritz-Thyssen/dp/B0006APEIW Hitler worked for UK-French intelligence under German veterans after w.w.1. The nazi-party got financed by German and western "elite" (from Henry Ford, the Bush family, to several European royals-most with German family in leading positions in Germany even during the war). Let's hope we are saved from another major war. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-15/natos-stoltenberg-slams-reckless-russias-attack-dont-want-new-cold-war
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I was making a post-getting kicked out ? "internetproblems"?
Syria Chinese Uyghurs fighting with pro-Turkish groups against the Kurds and https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803161062583071-us-military-aircraft-crash-iraq/ not far from Syrian border. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2222-breaking-news-u-s-army-chinook-helicopter-down-on-syria-iraq-border DJ-It looks like "the west"is preparing for "action" on several fronts in Syria to push back Russia and Iran. US https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-15/trump-fires-mcmaster-national-security-adviser-wapo and http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/u-s-national-news/2223-march-massacre-for-the-white-house-tomorrow-heads-to-roll UK https://www.rt.com/uk/421442-jeremy-corbyn-russia-skripal/ DJ-When asking questions become a crime democracy ends. Putin |
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DJ-It starts to look like preparations are being made for major NATO intervention in Syria (against Russia-risk of major escalation-"west" shooting missiles-Russia bringing missiles down--further escalation.)http://theduran.com/nato-uses-uk-poisoning-hoax-to-push-for-conflict-with-russia-video/ https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11662&start=20http://www.newsli.ru/news/world/politika/28776: +++ Info still unconfirmed +++ RUSSIA SHIPS ROCKETS AND WARSHIPS TO SYRIA - AFTER THE USA PREPARES ATTACK ON SYRIA +++ The info is still unconfirmed and is not commented by the Russian army. Some Russian media report that Russia is increasing its Syria contingent after the US constricts its warships and submarines (with cruise missiles) in the Mediterranean, despite the Russian warning that the Russian army will respond to a US attack. Accordingly, the US and some "allies" are preparing a massive attack on Syria - from the Mediterranean, as well as from Cyprus, Iraq and Jordan. According to the US threat of attack, Russia increased its number of warships off the Syrian coast from 15 to 20. The two Russian frigates "Admiral Essen" and "Admiral Grigorovich" were armed with "caliber" cruise missiles. The two landing ships "Orsk" and "Minsk" were also laid, each carrying up to 400 Marine Special Forces soldiers (special forces) or 45 infantry combat vehicles. Turkish media claims there were up to 1,000 Russian marines on it when they passed the Bosphorus the day before yesterday. The Russian submarine hunter frigate "Pytlivyj" is off the coast of Syria today, along with several Russian submarines, the exact number of which is unknown. In addition, there is also the transfer of about 20-30 other Russian fighter jets Su-30CM and air superiority fighter Su-35, along with 2 to 3 of the latest (not yet in service) fighter jets Su-57 ("T-50"). Released in the last two days and other air defense complexes S-400, and coastal defense missiles K-300 "Bastion" (up to 600 km range), so the unconfirmed infos. http://www.newsli.ru/news/world/politika/28776 Addition: France ready to attack syria with the US Chief of the French General Staff, Francois Lecointre, has confirmed to the French radio station Europe-1 that France is ready to attack the sovereign Syria together with the USA and to destroy all bases with "chemical weapons" and "camps". France would take "the right" and intervene in Syria. |
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https://www.debka.com/two-israeli-soldiers-killed-in-palestinian-car-ramming-attack/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/of-a-type-developed-by-liars-the-evolving-novichok-nerve-agent-saga/5632406 and https://www.globalresearch.ca/porton-down-a-gruesome-secretive-past-britains-chemical-weapons-facility/5632400 "novichok" still not identified-even politicians/media claim otherwise. |
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"west"/NATO -Russia/China/Russian presidential elections mix with false claims DJ The goal is to influence Russian elections-could work for the opposite-give Putin more support. Claims on cyberattacks are always hard to proof. At the moment US/NATO is trying to tell the world they are the boss. Both Russia and China see that in an other way. https://www.rt.com/usa/421552-taiwan-travel-act-china/ US deepen ties with Taiwan https://www.rt.com/usa/421553-mattis-us-aid-saudi-yemen/ US support for Suadi Arabia reduces casualties http://theduran.com/anatomy-american-propaganda-takes-name/ US: Putin has to go There is not any proof of Russia being behind a chemical attack on a former spy https://www.debka.com/two-israeli-soldiers-killed-in-palestinian-car-ramming-attack/ Israel will react CuriousWatcher wrote: ↑well i can't say that for sure but i kinda doubt it. As far as i am informed, russia asked the UK for a sample of the used poison to analyze it but UK refused to give it. So this may be just a unproven claim that russia had actually to do with it. I guess we need to wait and see what the future brings. As i mentioned in my earlier posts, just keep an eye on this strange situation for now. Noone knows what russia may be up to. I will dig and wait for news on the current events and try to keep this topic up to date with news. Also, this is not for RU - UK relations but for RU - US ones. A litte though by me: Russia is said to want to kill an ex-agent whom Russia had imprisoned for years and who could have eliminated it much more inconspicuously. Russia uses a poison that is ONLY available in Russia and is excellently detectable, leaving a thick, fat neon-faded fingerprint as a "claimant" at the scene. Moreover, Russia is too stupid to kill the target and pulls in 20 more bystanders. But the most important point: Russia does not do that at some point, no! But quite by chance shortly before the presidential election and the FIFA World Cup in their own country to get the most attention possible. France Foreign Ministry tells reportes to stop all travel to Syria; head of French army, Francois Lecointre, says French army ready to act if needed - Reuters
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https://turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2018/16-march-president-erdoan-holds-phone-conversations-with NATO chief and Poroshenko Ukraine. DJ-Turkey is a factor on its own in the Middle East/Asia/Europe/Africa. Erdogan seems to be looking for a neo-Ottoman empire. When Russia, Iran can help they are welcome, when IS can help https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/literally-hundreds-of-ex-isis-fighters-now-serve-with-turkey-led-forces-in-afrin-picture-evidence/ by renaming them-becoming part of "moderate rebels" like SDF-no problem. The US/NATO did everything they could to assist Turkey against the Kurds inside Turkey. In the past Turkey also worked with Israel, there is a Turkish minority in Ukraine/Crimea. DJ-Turkey still is in NATO, Erdogan still welcomes billions of EU€ to "take care of refugees". Is Erdogan part of a plan for attack on Syria (or with Ukraine/others even Russia) ? UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l9Gk38pvGc Israeli News Live-after the collapse of the Soviet Union the US did help Uzbekistan to deal with Soviet-chemical weapons. Western powers were in control of Novichok nerve gas since 1999. http://theduran.com/strange-case-russian-spy-poisoning/-why do so now ? (DJ-When asking questions becomes a crime democracy ends. The former spy was NOT murdered (yet), a "only Russia made" weapon was used against him just for the Russian elections. Why would Putin do so-and in this way ?Why exclude all other scenario's (just like MH-17 flight/mass murder-when there would be a claim the "Vagner Private Military Contractors did it-they have the knowledge. But that is not the western version) Results of US "invasion http://thesaker.is/what-results-when-u-s-invades-a-country/ The US/NATO destroyed Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan-was Syria next ?
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The provocations will be used as a pretext by the United States and its allies to launch strikes on military and government infrastructure in Syria,” the official stated. “We’re registering the signs of the preparations for the possible strikes. Strike groups of the cruise missile carriers have been formed in the east of the Mediterranean Sea, Persian Gulf and Red Sea.” https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2018-03-16/nato-expansion-what-yeltsin-heard After the end of the Soviet Union Boris Yeltsin believed NATO wanted to include working with Russia. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48968.htm Lies can lead to war http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555757/Russian-FM-Lavrov--US-UK-France-Syria-war DJ-NATO countries involved in many ways in Syria-war http://www.voltairenet.org/article200163.html Who are the "moderate rebels"in East Ghouta The US tells Russia not to sell weapons without US permission http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555734/Russia-UK-spy-poisoning UK tells 23 Russians to leave so Russia does the same. DJ-I think a main goal is to get rid of Putin. Tomorrow-sunday-Russia will have presidential elections. The Russian involvement in Syria is not very popular in Russia.
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Yemen The United States appears to be preparing a very large strike upon Syria. U.S. Navy Guided Missile Cruisers and Destroyers have been formed into strike groups in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, in the Red Sea and in the Persian Gulf. Worse: Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reports US forces have trained terrorists in Syria’s southern de-escalation zone to use chemical weapons and are preparing a false flag attack, 20 tons of chlorine has been delivered to them. RUSSIAN FM SERGEY LAVROV: THE US, THE UK AND FRANCE ARE NOT FIGHTING SYRIA BY PROXY. US, BRITISH, AND FRENCH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES ARE ON THE GROUND IN SYRIA DIRECTLY ENGAGING THE SYRIAN ARMY
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UPDATE 12:04 PM EDT --France's foreign ministry tells reporters to stop all travel to Syria
DANGER: Russia has now said that unlike the last time, they will respond with military force and not only shoot down the missiles, but destroy whatever shot them. Satellite images show the USS Theodore Roosevelt strike group in the Persian Gulf |
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East Ghouta https://southfront.org/syrian-president-visits-frontlines-east-ghouta-meets-saa-soldiers-displaced-civilians-videos-photos/ and http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/18/555867/Assad-Eastern-Ghouta-troops DJ-Maybe in reaction to western pressure Assad showing up-with what may be partly Russian bodyguards-can be as a sign of Assad not giving in. https://www.rt.com/news/421616-eastern-ghouta-exodus-/ (DJ-Most Syrian refugees live inside Syria under pro-Assad rule. ) http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/18-march-bashar-alassad-near-the-frontlines-of-eastern-ghouta-picture taken by Asma al Assad-wife of Assad Afrin https://southfront.org/afrin-self-administration-blames-russia-for-fall-of-afrin-says-new-phase-of-battle-begins/, http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/18/555873/YPG-forces-to-shift-from-direct-confrontation-to-guerrilla-tactics-Afrin-official https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-18/erdogan-declares-victory-turkish-flag-flies-over-afrin-reports-ethnic-cleansing https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/18-march-asked-where-the-next-target-is-after-taking-over-(pro)Turkish military-making gray wolf sign-after Afrin Manbij, Kirkuk, Mosul, Aleppo (DJ-Indicating neo-Ottoman ideas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jpkMn3mvF8 Israeli News Live (Turkey plans genocide on Kurds?) Korea Israel http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/18/555884/Israeli-forces-kill-Palestinian-man-over-alleged-stabbing-attack, http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/17/555780/Israeli-tanks-shell-besieged-Gaza-Strip-following-bomb-blast (Increase of violence in Israel) Russian elections |
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Xi invited Kim-China continues cooperation with (North)Korea. Hints at Moon-Putin-Plan. Korea one state-two systems with China/Russia investments ? https://www.debka.com/israel-opts-out-of-us-eu-anti-russian-expulsions-its-intelligence-finds-novichik-stocks-in-20-countries/ DJ The Novichik-lies will backfire on T.may. Russian diplomats likely to be replaced/return. Russia will react-western countries can have the same amount of diplomats in Russia as Russia can have in the western country. Syria https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/27-march-hezbollah-leader-claims-saudi-offered-to-cut-off Saudi Arabia willing to stop aid to "rebels"when Syria stops cooperation with Iran. (DJ-The "rebels"are as good as beaten. Assad depending on Russia/Iran-can and will not stop that support.) Iran http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/ap-sells-anti-iranian-lobbying-firm-as-independent-watchdog-group.html Basicly since some road-bombs in Yemen and Syria use Chinese wiring Iran has to be behind it. Just like to novichik-story complete insanity paid for by UK taxpayers. DJ-My impression is that the Russian message was very clear. An attack on Syria would be dealt with as if it was an attack on Russia. Most likely that goes for Iran as well. China will not accept (for now) any attack on North Korea. A new "balance of power" may be growing. This does not mean peace-still maybe limit the chance of a major conflict.
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DJ-At the end of the Viet Nam war the US left South Viet Nam to do the fighting. De facto admitting the strategy did fail. In Syria-at several points in time-the US was ready-with (a.o.) Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel to intervene/invade. Most likely one of the reasons the US did not invade was fear for another Viet Nam, Iraq-scenario. DJ-I do not rule out the possibility of Russia, Iran, China demonstrating they could take over control of US weapons. They have been working hard on it-to take over drones etc. Also the story of a US Navy ship in the Black Sea were electricity was stopped-possibly by Russia may have soom truth. https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/27/russia-game-changing-weapons-that-were-not-mentioned-in-putin-speech.html https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-29/israeli-stealth-fighters-fly-over-iran-amid-speculation-imminent-war, https://www.debka.com/why-doesnt-the-idf-pre-empt-hamas-march-of-return/, https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2018/29-march-turkish-army-established-3-military-bases-in-northern DJ-Turkey, Hamas, other "parties" are not "in control" wich could give escalations. Israel testing F35's in Iran airspace gives a lot of info on Iran (Russia) airdefense. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/elijah-magnier-how-syria-challenges-the-unipolar-order.html DJ-In my view "the west"simply had to accept the end of the unipolar-order. They do not like it, some countries may have to find a way to deal with it. Some "leaders" would like to go to war for it-the main reason we are NOT in world war 3 is that "the west" may loose this confrontation before it even realy started. (By cyber/electronic war, hyperweapons mach5+=6000km/4000m-per hour+) http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/she-is-risen-last-act-of-novichok-drama-revealed-the-skripals-resurrection.html DJ-The western "media/politicians" insanity is shocking. Since the short-term "war"strategy is not working-"the west"may go for demonizing Putin, China, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea etc. De facto "the east" will start spreading their influence from Northstream-2 (Russia-German pipeline) to "peacekeeping"in Afghanistan, Iraq. (Expect Trump to "reduce US forces" there as well. DJ-The only group that is winning by the US staying in the Middle East is oil/weapon-elite making money out of war.) https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/25/how-military-controls-america.html
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May is mad-and she is not the only one !
http://theduran.com/furious-china-ramps-support-russia-skripal/ DJ-The UK, NATO, EU and some other countries transferred a possible case of food-poisening into an international crisis. Of course this will have consequences ! https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-30/xi-jinping-and-kim-jong-un-make-korea-united-again DJ-Since most countries are "not western" the level of insanity produced by the west is making those other countries loking for a better alternative. Korean unification is coming insight-with North Korea willing to give up its nuclear weapons when the US is willing to leave South Korea-South Korea, PM Moon-can choose between a tradewar with the US and tradedeal with Russia and China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Group and https://www.quora.com/How-big-is-the-TATA-company India's Tata-group is not waiting for US tradewars. When the "west" has https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/03/31/dangerous-combination-bolton-and-boris.html to deal with foreign affairs-after the illegal wars against Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya can anyone seriously believe "the west" is "leading the globe in a good direction"? https://www.rt.com/business/422838-petro-yuan-dollar-gaddafi/ DJ-Gaddafi (the father) got murdered because he wanted to trade oil not for US$ (but an all African currency to fight poverty). (Gaddafi the son may become the next Libya president-no doubt backed by Russia, China etc.) DJ-China is tired of western insults and-already working with Russia, Iran, Pakistan. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-venezuela-china/china-rebuffs-u-s-criticism-of-relations-with-oil-rich-venezuela-idUSKBN1FP0ZF and http://www.africanews.com/2017/05/04/china-becomes-single-largest-contributor-of-africa-s-fdi-report/. The present level of western stupidity is pushing the rest of the globe away from the west. We deserve better leaders than this group of warmongers !
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DJ-There are some signs that Trump is serious in pulling out US troops from Syria. https://southfront.org/trump-freezes-founds-for-syria-signals-nearing-withdrawal/, https://southfront.org/citizens-raqqa-revolt-us-controlled-militants-russian-top-brass/. The US backed, Kurdish-led, "SDF" was controling also large area's with non-Kurdish inhabitants. (DJ-The Kurds only were a small minority in Syria. From the Kurdish perspective "Kurdistan" is for the Kurds. No borders defined-means some Arabs had to make way for Kurds. A lot of the Kurds in Syria may come from Turkey and Iraq.) The US: 1 Does not want more US forces getting killed in Syria, certainly not by another NATO-member; Turkey. When forced to make a choice the US has to drop the Kurds for Turkey/NATO. Turkey is essential for the US to keep a finger in the Middle East. (There have been reports of the US building a large base in Saudi Arabia (a.o. Debka reported it)-to replace US bases in Turkey and Qatar. In my opinion the US is likely to replace "strategic weapons"(a.o. nuclear) to that Saudi base-but the Qatar,Turkey bases will remain US bases). 2 https://southfront.org/turksih-media-says-french-troops-deployed-at-5-military-bases-in-northern-syria/ France, UK, Turkey want to take over control of East Syria oilfields. The US may have reached some kind of deal with Turkey as well. (There were some reporst of US forces moving out of East Syria-the US centcom claims that was "normal logistics") http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/03/31/557039/Russia-Syria-oil-arms-terrorists-Nusra-Daesh-Eastern-Ghouta Russia "rebels"still getting lots of weapons-rebel oiltrade as good as stopped. (DJ-There are some-very unlikely-reports of pro-Assad forces preparing action in East-Syria. Most likely Russia wants to find a diplomatic solution in talks with the Kurds. After Turkey took over Afrin the Kurds in East Syria-a minority in a large part of the area-not only face Turkey moving in from the north, uprisings of the Arab population is another risk, (pro)Iran forces moving in, logistics getting more difficult. The US seems te be rearming/renaming IS fighters. For the Kurds making a deal with Assad may be the best option when US support stops.) Iraq https://southfront.org/turkey-expands-its-ground-operations-against-pkk-in-northern-iraq-reports/ and https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2018/31-march-turkish-army-says-the-operation-to-clean-pkk-from DJ-Since the-almost civil-war against the Kurds inside Turkey is about getting control over flow of money (a.o. from the EU) and weapons/fighters Turkey want to take over control of borderarea's under Kurdish control both in Syria and Iraq. (DJ-Turkey and Iran may have an agreement on Kurdish seperatism-Iran also has a large Kurdish minority of up to 8 milion.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Iran and https://kurds.liveuamap.com/ ). Petro-Yuan https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/china-plans-pay-oil-imports-yuan-instead-dollars DJ China has replaced the US as #1 buyer of oil in the global market. Although not directly visible in the Middle East wars China is the major player behind the scenes. (DJ-Due to Fracking the US has become the #1 oil producer with Saudi Arabia #2, Russia #3. Both Saudi Arabia and Russia are willing to make deals with China outside the US-petro-$, oil-for-goods often). DJ-China gave Venezuela "loans (in US$) for oil", Angola is accepting Yuan. Malaysia, Indonesia, several Arab/African countries are "happy to spread the risks" by doing some of the energy-deals outside the US$ system. How this will effect the US economy is mainly depending on how the US deals with this situation. (in the past countries that dumped the US$ for energytrade ware invaded. The US most likely will not start a war with China (and thereby all the China-partners, Russia, Iran etc.). I-DJ-understand the US need for better tradebalances. Trump his urge for reopening all kind of trade-deals is logical. Starting tradewars is stupid ! It would be in the best US interest to slow the Petro-yuan-but the US can not stop it. UK The "Russia tried to kill a former agent and his (visiting from Russia) daughter" story proberbly has to do with the UK-Brexit-problems and T.may's lack of support in even her own party. The UK cabinet most likely will switch to the "silence mode" "not to hinder further investigations", maybe even "privacy"as excuses. I-DJ-expect T.may not to be the UK PM by the end of the year. The US must be very unhappy with this story. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/clinton-state-department-discouraged-novichok-discussion.html and https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201803311063106078-uk-skripal-cia-usa-poisoning/. DJ-The EU, NATO, etc did-for the public eye-give support to the UK. Most likely behind closed doors the picture may be "very different". A "hard"Brexit may be on its way. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/brexit-negotiations-tracker/
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https://sputniknews.com/business/201804011063117743-uk-russia-eurobonds/, https://sputniknews.com/asia/201804011063121964-china-tariffs-us-imported-tariffs-response/, DJ-The outcome of sanctions; Turkey instead of EU selling fruits and vegetables to Russia, Petroyuan, integration of Russia-Iran-China as a motor for one EurAsian market. T-N-exit ? https://southfront.org/towards-nato-exit-shift-structure-military-coalitions-turkeys-alliance-russia-china-iran/ Turkey leaving NATO (with Russia/China protection) could be a next step. Gaza http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49114.htm Shocking video's of Israeli snipers killing demonstrators in Gaza. https://southfront.org/erdogan-calls-netanyahu-terrorist-amid-mutliple-deaths-of-protestors-in-gaza/, https://southfront.org/uav-crash-in-lebanon-reveals-secret-israeli-weapon/ DJ-Hamas-in my opinion-is a terrorist organization. Some Gaza-Palestinians may have connections with Sinaï IS. Still as the video's show the use of deadly force against these demonstrators was disproportional. There is no need to kill demonstrators that are over 10 meters away from a border with gates, ditches etc. Even when those demonstrators would reach the borderline they would not be able to get across it. Teargas, rubber bullets, etc. would be enough for crowd control. The west not seriously protesting is another shame ! (DJ-The UK poisoningcase-in wich several countries took diplomatic steps-has made familymembers of the MH17 massmurder ask why those steps were not taken after the downing of the MH17 flight over East Ukraine. The west keeps claiming Russia did it-but no diplomat was send home while 298 innocent people were killed. In the UK case nobody got killed-it may even have been foodpoisoning-but the west overreacts.) https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804021063128357-italian-journalist-fontana-skripal-opinion/ DJ-Lots of informed people must be getting sick from "western politicians". https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-01/interventionistas-outraged-over-trumps-syria-withdrawal-we-took-oil-weve-got-keep and http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-moa-week-in-review-and-open-thread-2018-14.html Syria https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-pro-govt-forces-claim-us-base-attacked-in-raqqa/ DJ-The Arab population now under Kurdish control-with US support-are getting tired of being occupied. (DJ-Again; the Kurds in Syria are a small minority living near the Turkey border. Bringing all of Arab East Syria under Kurdish control is asking for problems. https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804021063130081-iraq-operation-syria-abadi/ (DJ-Such an Iraqi operation would be in East Syria were the US is protecting/renaming IS groups.)
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http://theduran.com/heres-why-the-us-failed-to-save-the-jihadis-in-east-ghouta/ DJ-The US did not intervene in Syria because Russia (DJ-and China, Iran-most likely others) would start a war if the US/NATO attacked pro-Assad forces in Syria. But that lesson means the US is no longer in control. http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2332-creepy-nuke-attack-video-from-russian-tv-orthodox-easter, http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/2314-supersonic-b-1b-lancer-bombers-replace-b-52-s-in-qatar, https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/unconfirmed-new-pro-syrian-army-rebel-group-rises-to-fight-us-turkish-forces-in-syrias-north/, https://southfront.org/rumors-go-wild-as-local-partisans-wave-syrian-flag-in-us-occupied-city-of-raqqa-video/, https://southfront.org/videos-show-new-us-military-positions-near-syrias-manbij-is-this-trumps-withdrawal/, https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-april-5-2018-russian-forces-shot-down-17-uavs-with-range-of-100km/ DJ-The picture I am getting is that Saudi Arabia is paying the US (or Trump ?) to keep forces in Syria. The official story is "to fight IS" only that is not what the US has been doing the last months ! UK-Russia https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-04/three-most-important-aspects-skripal-case-and-where-they-might-be-pointing Was Mr. Skripal himself in possession of novichek ? http://theduran.com/breaking-yulia-skripal-phone-call-leaked-everyones-health-is-fine-will-be-discharged-soon/ DJ-The 5-8 times more deadly than VX novichek was not deadly ? (Was it food poisoning ???) http://theduran.com/3-reasons-why-uk-poisoning-incident-is-one-big-may-johnson-government-cover-up-video/ and http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/its-the-cover-up-uk-foreign-office-deletes-tweet-posts-false-transcript-issues-new-lies.html DJ-When there is not any proof of a chemical weapon being used (by anybody) how insane are governments, media, to create these kind of massive lies ? Again East-West relations http://theduran.com/russian-envoy-to-nato-you-crossed-red-line-with-military-build-up/, http://theduran.com/china-retaliates-to-us-retaliation-to-china-retaliation-to-us-tariffs/, http://theduran.com/chinese-defense-minister-wants-to-show-america-how-close-china-and-russia-are-in-military-cooperation/. DJ-Putin must be very gratefull to the "west" pushing China, Iran, Korea, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, etc. on the Russian side. https://sputniknews.com/military/201804051063241037-syrian-army-finds-weapons-stockpile-in-deir-ez-zor/ and http://theduran.com/saudi-crown-prince-mbs-comes-clean-saudi-nationals-have-funded-terrorist-groups/ IS and other "rebels" were armed and paid by the west, Israel and Gulf States. http://theduran.com/putin-isis-remains-a-global-threat-despite-military-defeat-in-syria/ At the end Russia and China were the IS targets. The outcome is that even more money is spend on another insane armsrace, cold war. Instead of education, housing, healthcare, climate change "we" as citizens end up paying tax for destruction not solutions. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/05/557502/Russia--Foreign-Ministry-US-military-activity-Korean-Peninsula-RIA Russia and China taking over North Korean stands ?
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Skripal scarlet fever ? There is an outbreak of scarlet fever in the UK http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20180406-62504-GBR. Scarlet fever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_fever may have complications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_fever#Complications like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_disease. Since the Skripals are Russian they may react different on both the scarlet fever infection, complications and treatment. It may be misinterpreted as a chemical attack ?
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Yes, of course, scarlet fever has no incubation period (the policeman) and leaves traces on furniture which then test positive for a nerve agent (table).
Seriously though, we do have scarlet fever, which is a regular occurence every year, but that makes it easy to spot. It is a bacterial disease and so is both culturable and visible with an optical microscope. I know we also have a Boris Jonston, but he is neither as stupid as he appears, nor tyical of British intellect. As to Blaming Russia, our Prime minister managed to convince a large swathe of leaders from other countries of Russia's involvemet. They can't all be nuts. Making novichoc agents is a complicated and technical thing. That reduces the chances of it being other than the product of a large country with (now or in the past) a history of WMD production. I suspect it was actually a break-away faction within Russia rather than Putin's instruction. But, the buck still stops with the boss even when his underlings missbehave. It was an unfortunate coincidence that Russia boasted of its murder of double agents at the same time. Finally, Russia is clearly behind the chemical weapons Assad's forces are using on his own people (Once again the effects of sarin and sabin differ from chlorine and the rebels do not have sufficient ability to make anything but the latter. They also have no reason to use them on their own people.) so Russia has a proven track record of chemical weapons use. Overall, I know we are fed a steady diet of propaganda, but I still remain convinced this came from Russia. The only bit I remain unsure of, is the precise source within Russia. Scarlet fever indeed! |
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Ps. Russians and Western Europeans are fairly closely related. Their history with scarlet fever is similar to ours. Native Americans and Australian Aborigines suffer the same symptoms as we do and they are from previously isolated communities, unlike Russians.
Oh, and annother thing, Russia has a history of murdering its double agents, Litvinenco's polonium and the poison pellet of ricin come immediately to mind. There is one point of obscurity. Russia's revenge attacks are usually fatal. Why not this time? |
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I did put a quastion mark with my scarlet fever-and complications- theory. My trust in politicians is "very limited". http://theduran.com/skripal-case-misuse-intelligence/ and http://theduran.com/italian-leading-parties-condemn-expulsion-of-russian-diplomats-advocate-better-ties-with-russia/ Some points we may agree up on; -Putin may be willing to order to kill people (like May, Trump etc.) -there are nerve agents -there is also a lot of propaganda (from all sides) Still for me several questions; -why are the Skripal's still alive when the nerve agent is supposed to be that deadly ? -who wants the Skripal(s) killed ? The motives-could it be he was involved in illegal trading ? -could there be another cause of the Skripals health situation ? (Like-my suggestion-complications of scarlet fever-I do not know much of it-just asking) -Of course Russia would create a screen of fog when they were behind an attack on a former (double)agent-but would a car accident, robbery or something "more normal" not be an easier way to get "a message"over ? I am not convinced in the MH17 case Russia did it, also the Skripal story does not convince me. In my view Russia may be involved but other scenario's are also possible. On Syria, the story was that "moderate jihadi's" did get Libyan Sarin via Turkey/CIA-not that they made it themselves. In an earlier phase of the Syrian war I think Assad might have used chemical weapons. In the present phase of that war that kind of weapons would be counterproductive, work against him. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/bone-of-contention-why-us-france-reportedly-dispatch-their-troops-to-manbij/ and https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-could-be-readying-for-very-powerful-offensive-to-recapture-abu-kamal-in-southeast-syria-alarming-signs/ Assad is supported by Russia and Iran. Turkey is fighting against the Kurds (both in Syria and Iraq) and anyone supporting them (US, France, Israel). Russia, Iran and China want to "deal" with IS (etc) because they consider those groups as a major risk for their country. The US ( and NATO) claims to be fighting IS (etc) since 2001 in Afghanistan, 2003 in Iraq, 2011 (or so) in Syria-but the "western action" did make IS become a major problem. Israel once did prefer IS above Iran on its borders. Yet several intelligence groups have their doubts on it by now. |
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Agreed on the: "Why still alive?" point - Russia is far more efficient, usually. More evidence it was a breakaway faction. Russian leaders can't admit to such things, as appearing strong is everything.
I am pretty sure it did come from Russia - all things considered. But, the international backlash may be exactly what the perpetrators wanted. Perhaps someone is after Putin's job. This would be a good first step. |
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More links on the Skripal-story (no doubt some of it may be called propaganda)
https://www.rt.com/uk/423429-skripal-mystery-novichok-spy/ Russian summary of the UK story-versions-novichok supposed to be very deadly and spread all over Salisbury ? (From the comments-would a victim of a nerve-agent attack end up in a NHS-hospital or another location ?) http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/the-best-explanation-for-the-skripal-drama-is-food-poisoning.html DJ-My idea/suggestion as well-or a complication of a disease not well recognized. (DJ-The "good" thing in this scenario is that medical info was interpreted the wrong way-it was all a misunderstanding not a on purpose false-flag event.) http://theduran.com/skripal-case-russia-counter-attacks-britain-responds-tightening-access-yulia-skripal/, http://theduran.com/jeremy-corbyn-calls-out-boris-johnson-for-misleading-the-public/ DJ- I do believe Russia-Putin-might be able to order an execution in the UK by secret agents. There have been many other cases of murders in an other country by several countries; -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508511/Exposed-The-army-black-ops-squad-ordered-murder-IRAs-players.html in the UK-also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488667/Why-I-know-weapons-expert-Dr-David-Kelly-murdered-MP-spent-year-investigating-death.html -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_the_North_Caucasus Russia (some of it on Putin orders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War much of the Russian approach then still recognizable in Syria now). |
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DJ-Several links indicating US presence in East Syria becoming under pressure from both Turkey (and proxies) and Iran-backed groups. [/url]https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/they-are-here-for-the-turks-sdf-soldiers-talk-about-new-us-base-in-manbij-video/[/url] (DJ-Russia may not want to get to much involved in Turkish-Kurdish conflict, concentrate on Damascus SW Syria.) https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804071063314818-syria-us-iran-position/ DJ-The US wants to stop Iran in Syria (and Iraq) also "not happy with Russian forces in Syria" (but will avoid direct confrontation between US and Russian armies.) Also uncertainty of some pro-Assad groups making plans for actions in/near the Golan Heights. Iraq https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2018/7-april-turkish-warplanes-bombarding-pkk-targets-near-kesta, https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2018/6-april-turkish-army-has-established-6-permanent-military DJ-Erdogan did say he would attack Kurdish positions in Syria-Iraq border area https://iraq.liveuamap.com/en/2018/4-april-commander-qassem-shasho-yazidi-says-that-pkk-withdrawal Korea US-China Germany Three people killed by car driving into a crowd in Munster Germany (not far from Dutch border). |
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I don't believe food poisoning either. There is no evidential correlation between the two. The relative's guesses sound fear motivated, not fact based.
She is in Russia. If Putin's tentacles can reach those in England, then Russia must be a riskier location This still does not mean he was the direct source. If a break away faction was behind the attack, then the iron fist of control has is even more greatly needed to prove his strength. |
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