The Children of Anarchy-Racism and Hate in America

I am sorry, Crabby.  I took down your last post.  It was too offensive to let it remain on display.

Perhaps I'm the only one on this entire forum with the guts enough to speak honestly about this and to openly admit how I've changed over the years. No amount of putting this subject in the closet is going to cure it. It will only make the situation worse!

"The poll, conducted from Friday, the day after the killing of five Dallas police officers, until Tuesday, found that six in 10 Americans say race relations were growing worse, up from 38 percent a year ago."

Read about it here.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/most-americans-hold-grim-view-of-race-relations-poll-finds.html?_r=0

IF BLACKS WANT "CIVIL" RIGHTS THEN THEY BETTER BEHAVE IN A "CIVIL" MANNER!

If you truly want to talk about equality, then take a look at the following black organizations. This is racism and should offend all white people. Blacks have purposefully and willfully segregated themselves in all aspects of what should be "American society". The following is only a partial list.

100 Black Men Of America, http://www.100blackmen.org/home.aspx

African American Male Initiative with chapters all across the country, http://www.aamicis.org/

African Community Centers for Unity & Self Deter, http://www.10-10-50.org/

The African American Planning Commission, http://aapci.org/site/

American Association of Blacks in Energy, http://www.aabe.org/

American Black Film Festival, http://www.abff.com/

Association of African American Museums, http://www.blackmuseums.org/

The Association of Black Psychologists, http://www.abpsi.org/

Black Data Processing Associates, http://www.bdpa.org/?page=About_BDPA

Black Career Women’s Network, https://bcwnetwork.com/

Black Geeks On Line, http://www.blackgeeks.net/

Black Lives Matter, http://blacklivesmatter.com/

Predominantly Black Universities such as Spelman College, Howard University, Hampton University, and more.

Black Women’s Blueprint, http://www.blackwomensblueprint.org/

Black Women’s Health Imperative, http://www.bwhi.org/

Black Women’s Playwright Group, http://blackwomenplaywrights.org/

Black Women’s Roundtable, http://ncbcp.org/programs/bwr/policy/

Blacks in Government, http://www.bignet.org/

The Circle Brotherhood Association, http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~sww/circle.html

Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, http://www.cbcfinc.org/About/index.html

The Executive Leadership Council, https://www.elcinfo.com/index.php

Hollywood Black Film Festival, http://www.hbff.org/

The Information Technology Senior Management Forum, http://www.itsmfonline.org/

Miss Black USA Pageant, http://www.missblackusa.org/

Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, http://jointcenter.org/

The National Action Council for Minorities in Engineering, http://www.nacme.org/about-us

National African American Gun Association, http://www.naaga.co/

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, http://www.naacp.org/

The National Association of Black Accountants, http://www.nabainc.org/

National Assn. of Black American’s in Human Resources, http://www.naaahr.org/

National Association of Black Journalists, http://www.nabj.org/

National Association of Black Law Enforcement Executives, http://www.noblenational.org/home.aspx

National Association of Blacks in Criminal Justice, http://nabcj.org/

National Association of Black Storytellers, http://www.nabsinc.org/

National Association of Colored Women’s Clubs, http://www.nacwc.org/

National Black Chamber of Commerce, http://www.nationalbcc.org/

National Black Child Development Institute, http://www.nbcdi.org/

National Black Deaf Advocates, http://www.nbda.org/

National Black Justice Coalition, http://nbjc.org/

National Black MBA Association, http://www.nbmbaa.org/

National Black Nurses Association, http://www.nbna.org/

National Black Urban League, http://nul.iamempowered.com/

National Coalition of 100 Black Women, http://www.100blackwomen.org/

National Congress of Black Women, http://nationalcongressbw.org/

National Council of Negro Women, http://ncnw.org/

National Medical Association, http://www.nmanet.org/

National Organization for the Professional Advancement of Black Chemists and Engineers,
http://www.nobcche.org/

National Sales Network, http://www.salesnetwork.org/

National Society of Black Engineers, http://www.nsbe.org/home.aspx

National Society of Black Physicists, http://nsbp.org/

New Black Panther Party, http://www.cbpm.org/nbpp.html

Organization of Black Aerospace Professionals, http://www.obap.org/

Organization of Black Designers, http://obd.org/

Rainbow Push Coalition, http://www.rainbowpush.org/

Sister Love, Inc, http://www.sisterlove.org/

Student National Medical Association, http://www.snma.org/

Toronto Black Film Festival, http://torontoblackfilm.com/

United Negro College Fund, http://www.uncf.org/


What I find offensive are the political correctness police such as yourself who are scared to talk about this and want to stuff this in the closet.

What I find the most offensive are indiscriminate blacks beating up on white people for no reason other than the fact that they're white.

I'm referring to the blacks who beat up on whites as they left the state fairs in both Illinois and Wisconsin.

I'm referring to my own cousin who was gunned down in Iowa City a few years ago.

I'm referring to the Knockout Game.

I'm referring to rioting, looting, and setting businesses on fire.


You should do some research about "black on white crime" sometime. This is nothing more than indiscriminate hate crimes perpetrated by blacks onto whites.

"A couple of gals" is how I often refer to women since I am one myself. I also refer to men as "guys". There is nothing offensive about "guys" and "gals". How on earth could you or anyone else take issue with this? The only inference to any stereotype was in your male mind, not mine. Additionally, I didn't use any bad language, but spoke the truth of how I felt regarding the black/white issue. I tried to explain that I wasn't raised racist, but had become racist as I aged and simply tried to explain the way I felt personally. How many white people are actually brave and able enough to actually admit this? Perhaps if anyone was truly offended then they should speak up so we can have an honest conversation for a change. If you or anyone take offense to my speaking up and trying to have a truthful conversation here, then your political police stance is what needs to be fixed. Furthermore, you deleted my last post which clearly pointed out the fact that this country better have an honest conversation about this because we cannot keep sweeping it under the rug as the mods here are so apt to do. There will be unintended consequences such as what we're already seeing with regards to the Black Panther's sponsored rioting and Donald Trumps speech tonight regarding "safety". The New Black Panther's party is the most racist group in this country. These two groups are deeply connected to each other and The New Black Panthers has its roots in the Muslim religion. Research THAT!

My posts have been civil.

Lastly, I said nothing derogatory about blacks in general, but spoke of my personal feelings, how I was raised, and where I'm at now. My post came from my heart and I was completely honest.

I'm posting this quote again because it there is some great truths in it.

"Political and thought leaders have so far failed to conduct that fabled “conversation about race” that is such a phantom presence in the national life. It is apparently too painful to actually undertake."

How can you not take issue then with Medclinicias's post which says;
"without a token member of every race including a gay"

How can you not take issue with FluMom's post;
"She did not want her son's marrying a white woman so she said she was a racist." (If she can talk about a black woman being racist then why can't I?)

Here's some facts for you from my life and from my friends' lives.
1) I grew up in Illinois and in the 70's our high school was let out early numerous times because the blacks in the neighboring town threatened to come over and start trouble. (It wasn't the other way around.)
2) The only person who grabbed me in the breast was a black boy at a football game.
3) The handful of black boys who went to my mostly white school taunted me when I came out of the bathroom one time and followed me down the empty hall after the bell rang. (I was running late to class.) I didn't say or do anything to cause this. They were trying to scare me.
4) I stayed out of high school for 2 years earning enough money to go to college. When I got there I was put on an all black floor and was going to be a master's thesis experiment. My black room mate was writing her master's thesis on how a white girl (me) would cope being on an all black floor.
5) My sister-in-law was beaten in her car by a black man in a parking garage in Baltimore years ago. The only thing that saved her was someone's horn honking and the fact that all the blows that she took to the head were cushioned by the passenger seat that she was pushed onto.
6) A co-worker came out of the grocery store at noon one day, locked her car door and a black man went up to her car beating on her window and tried the door handle to get in.
7) My husband stopped a rape in progress years ago out on long island. A black man was attempting to rape a white woman.
8) Just recently my best friend came out of WalMart in the middle of the afternoon and a black man ran up to her car, beat on the window repeatedly and tried to yank the car door open.
9) I had a black co-worker who I treated just like everyone else. I thought she was my friend. One day as I was bringing my cafeteria lunch back to my desk I told her they had fried chicken today. She replied, "What are you telling me that for." (displaying that chip on her shoulder)
10) We once took a Circle Line boat tour from Manhattan up the Hudson river to West Point. The black people who were sitting next to us threw their chicken bones on the deck of the boat when the trash can wasn't further than 3 feet away from them. I've never seen white people act so brazenly about their trash. I know that many whites litter too, but this was ridiculous.
11) My boss from Texas was speaking to me one day and this black woman overheard him say "mam" to me, which is typical of southern talk and she said that it was a no-no in her culture. I wanted to ask her what culture she was talking about. Mam is a shortened version of Madam. How on earth could she take issue with that?

During all my years of growing up I have never heard of 1 case of people having their cars beat on or people trying to forcibly enter their cars by a white person. Nor have I had a white person try to grab me in my breast. Nor have I had a group of white boys taunt me. In fact I've never had trouble with white people, but have had trouble with black people and have heard of trouble with black people in overwhelming proportion to what whites deal with from each other.

White's don't flash mob stores to get free stuff.
White's don't indiscriminately participate in the "knock-out" game.
White's don't riot and set fire to entire city streets.
White's don't mob just to beat up on a single white person. (Perhaps this was done in the past, but I haven't heard of this happening in years.)

As far as I can tell, white people have acted with great civility for decades with a few exceptions and only recently do we have trouble again just like we had in the 70's, but this time it's going to be worse. I truly don't believe that blacks are rioting simply because a cop kills a black man. I truly believe that the situation is far deeper than that. I believe that poverty plays a role. I also believe that blacks are raised to be more racist than whites. I don't know if anyone in my family or circle of friends who was raised to be racist. However, I know lots of white people who have become or are becoming racist because of the shenanigans that is going on right now. Go ahead and stick your head in the sand, but things are about to get a whole lot worse and I fear that this will trigger the unintended consequence of a race war. Do I want this? NO!

Do I dislike all black people? NO!
Am I disliking more of them every day? YES, and it has to do with flash mobs, knockout games, rioting, looting buildings, setting buildings and police cars on fire, and now killing innocent policemen.

Mark my words, there is a backlash coming with regards to all this bad behavior lately from black people.

My entire point in all of this is that I have become racist as I got older and its because of the behavior that is being exhibited by blacks against whites.

It really is fairly simple to me. When I was in West Virginia at my company and at a local diner there often were quite a few black people there. As Obama was elected they were talking and said something like "there is going to f*cking payback to the crackers now."

I am not racist. But when we did get a black president everything changed. I noticed ads, tv shows, movies - all with more people of color and it seemed you couldn't have a commercial in it without a token member of every race including a gay. Now most of the series on TV have gays in them and there is an endless dialogue of racism.

We are on the verge of a white president - very likely Republican who has a Christian VP and already we are getting static for the LBGT and gays. A democracy basically should represent the people and not be as focused on 1% or minorities as American citizens. This is America.

There is no way that somehow the elections are going to be put off and after 8 years of misery and bad decisions and overt lies there will be executive orders, martial law, or anarchy. It is not going to work.

Just as the U.S. supported current adminstration plotted coup in Turkey failed, it is time for citzens of our country to have more consideration and rights than people who are illegally in this country.

The powers that be are worried. What we are seeing is reverse discrimation and people hunting policeman. This is not to create equality - it is to create chaos.

People whatever sexual orientation should not be hunted or persecuted but the obsession of our politics should not be make sure gays can marry or transgenders have bathrooms. We have huge economical problems and health care issues. Our foreign policy is terrible.

Nothing is quite as sure as change.

Medclinician

CRS, DrPH wrote: ^Thanks for reposting the YouTube clip!  I've been having a problem doing that recently.  I'm pretty biased since I have strong ties to local and federal law enforcement, but I agree....killing police will only invite grief upon the entire black community.   Remember the 1960s and the "off the pig!" chants?  Looks like we are headed back in that direction.   I cannot excuse the actions of a handful of trigger-happy cops who killed innocent (or essentially innocent) African-Americans.  The video of the Laquan McDonald shooting in Chicago was sickening....that officer unloaded a full clip of 9mm from a service Glock sidearm, and was reloading to fire more rounds when his partner stopped him.  I saw no threat to law enforcement in any film of that event, the kid was obviously high as a kite.   Police on are edge...it is not being widely reported, but there is an increased incidence of young black males attempting to wrest the duty firearms away from officers.  This happened in Ferguson MO, when perp Michael Brown attempted to wrest the Sig Sauer 9mm duty arm out of the hand of Officer Wilson. I cannot think of a single jurisdiction in these United States that would have a different outcome.   The number one cause of death to an officer is being shot with his or her own firearm. Hang on, let's see what happens.   We have a lot of high-powered military spec firearms in circulation, so the lethality factor keeps increasing for all sides.  A gun ban is no solution, but we need to work on this.   Be safe, Chuck

Thanks Chuck. I am supportive of our law enforcement people across the U.S. It is a battle zone in the inner cities for the police and despite smart phone films of police, there are almost none on the media of criminals assaulting police officers.

They are dealing with assault weapons, body armor, and often times people skilled in using them. An officer answering a domestic violence has more chance of being shot than the those involved if things go bad and many times do.

I used to work in medicine in a jail and would watch in receiving as people came in. It took 6 officers to take down a guy on angel dust who was crazy as crazy and had the strength to probably to  turn over a car.

A lone officer making traffic stops is a real target. We were trying to develop tech to detect guns from a distance so officers would know people were armed.

I am zero racist. I grew up in a church that was integrated and had many friends who were black and in the service worked and lived with some real heroes - many of whom died for our country. There were some fine solidiers and even on the force, police who try and deal with the problems of gangs, drugs, pimps, and crime.

There are bad cops and incidents in federal prisons which have been a problem, but no one should gun down any human being in another city for something that happened in another state or get on Facebook and start telling people to do so.

 

Medclinician

[QUOTE=CRS, DrPH]I just turned 61 in July....when I was 11, I can remember standing in the front yard of my parents' house, dumbfounded at the glowing red sky over the west side of Chicago (15 miles to my east).  This video really captures the time.  

For many years we have been hearing about the injustices and burden of the minorities. This in no way justified what was a clear racial and violent act in the killing of five white Dallas police officers.

Much too often, the problem with reverse discrimation, a media and movie fascination with gangs, drugs, and criminal violence has led us to where we are today in America.

There are bad cops. But to murder five policeman in another state from where still investigated violence against persons with a clear racial slant, was wrong. Facebook has some calls for people to murder dozens of white policer officers.

A few years ago, I had a best friend named Tom Tallmon who had a close friend who was a police officer and used to eat with him at Denny's on Sundays. He had known him since childhood. One day as he sat across from him in a booth, a man ran in from the street and and emptied a full clip of bullets from his handgun into the officer across from my friend killing him instantly.

My friend, who is a hard-core combat decorated Vietnam veteran, was shaken to core by the this. The officer was a good man, respected for decades and served his community with dignity and treated people fairly. He had a family and children and because one crazy person who hated policeman, especially white ones felt like it - felt like he was God almighty, was gunned down in cold blood.

This is wrong. We live near an area in California that has one of the highest murder rates in the nation. You are lucky if you are in certain parts not to have your children killed by bullets coming through the walls as the pimps, gangs, and drug dealers fight over their territory with automatic weapons.

We have reached a point in popular music where songs exemplify the abuse of women, violence to the innocent, and where it is cool to take an person who has done nothing wrong to anyone and kill them or hurt them badly just to score points in the 'Hood'.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hood

We are on the verge of anarchy. If we take away guns from the law-abiding people - and make it against the law to have them - then only outlaws will have guns.

One thing you will probably never see - with all the spin and outcry about discrimation, is calling any act racism against a white person.

Someone in the ghetto killing the innocent and targeting law enforcement for acts in other states and which they don't even really know except for the media hype - are more than criminals

They are Domestic Terrorists - and by any law or understanding even more dangerous to us than Muslim radicals or zealots.

In my life I have known many officers, worked with some and known their families. Two of my brother-in-laws were on the street and it is a very hard life and a job that not that many want or can deal with.

Anarchy is not cool. Rioting, looting, and violence will never be okay. Racism can be against any race including white people and often is.

Medclinician