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Thanks, Dutch Josh! There are tons of articles, this one has a good animation showing what will happen to US coastal areas.
Interestingly, the most impacted regions in the US are also the ones that voted against Donald Trump!! |
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Two million more Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than for Donald Trump
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...r-Donald-Trump the "people's" choice was quite clear #TrumpNot MyPresident |
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Interesting story just breaking about "anomalies" in parts of battleground states that used electronic voting.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jill-stein-prepares-to-request-election-recounts-in-battleground-states/ar-AAkG049?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=SL5IDHP |
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How long before the white working class realises Trump was just scamming them?He hasn't even taken office yet and the broken promises are piling up |
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People will feel no different than when Obama scammed us by saying that he was going to be the most transparent president ever and then wasn't transparent at all.
As for the supposed low cost health insurance that I was to get under Obamacare, it has almost doubled in the past 3 years! Nancy Pelosi, the democrat house speaker, told everyone that they had to pass the law to find out what was in it. Why should Donald Trump disentangle himself from his business holdings? He will eventually go back to being a private citizen again. Why should he give all of that up? He doesn't need an inside track in government to make more money than he already has. Using the government for their own purposes is more for people like the Clinton's and Obama who went into office with little and came out rich. I noticed that you quoted the Washington Post above. We don't call that paper the Washington Compost for nothing. Take a hint from that. This rag is pretty left of center these days. I have to wonder why someone from Australia should concern themselves with our election when they don't have any participation in it. |
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^although this hasn't been written about much, I believe that a critical factor of this election had to do with gun ownership and protecting the 2nd Amendment. That alone may have been worth it to the group that voted for Trump.
It was a consideration of mine, but I reluctantly voted for Hillary out of concern for Trump's many conflicts of interest & the curious ties to Putin, which I'm waiting to see manifested in some type of move against NATO. We shall see....
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"hope and change" republican style
grandma is gonna get thrown over a financial cliff too bad so sad Pay more and get less: The Ryan plan to privatize Medicare http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/27/1602925/-Pay-more-and-get-less-The-Ryan-plan-to-privatize-Medicare elections have consequences |
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if you look the news item was from the UK........
i do read what others say, about other countries , keeps my mind..... OPEN...... p.s dont tell anyone but i subscribe to the Russian Times,have to know what the commie bastards are up to ....lol |
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No, not necessarily. You are using the term Americans rather broadly. If you want to consider every person who is physically present in the U.S. an American, it isn't right. The people's choice does not include perhaps 7 million immigrants who voted illegally. In addition to these vote numbers are CNN and Fox generated numbers. When they were so dishonest in the polling numbers, do you think anything is going to be different as they try to get electors to change their votes. "Not my president" was the result of a billionaire investing money to back organized rallys around the U.S. with coaxing cards and bullhorns. Many of those people were political mercenaries paid to protest and the ads can be found all over the net. They're funded by George Soros' organization, Open Societies Suppose Trump had done the same thing. Days after Hillary was elected had people in the streets protesting she was "not our president"? He was the whiner remember. The person "not in contact with reality" for saying the election was rigged. And now we hear the same battle cry. Personally, I would be very afraid the day the Hillary Clinton becomes president. For one, she is likely to have us in a nuclear war in a matter of weeks. Her no fly zone in Syria would set off World War 3. The election was a Jerry Springer drama fest which failed to address the real issues, especially foregin policy. The foreign policy of the Democrats for 30 years on and off got us to where we are now with ISIS. We created ISIS just like we created the Mujhadeen to get Russia out of Afghanistan. Hillary has stated this in several videos I put up here. The bottom line is we need change. I would be afraid to have the same corrupt political swamp we have had for 50 years. The legislators are controlled by lobbyists who do not represent the people and are totally out of contact with the needs of Americans. America would not be great again with a criminal in office. There still will be investigations. Our inner cities would be in chaos with policeman being murdered and anarchy in the streets. Do you doubt this? It is time for a change. Let us hope we finally get it. Minorities have a right to their voice and to be heard, but we live in a democracy. It is for all the people, not just the really verbal and loud smaller groups with their personal agendas and programs. The Midwest and South and the workers were fed up with East Coast and West Coast running the country. It is time they were heard. The auto-workers, the coal miners, the heartland, the life and blood of our nation. They don't have time to protest. They are too busy working their butts off to make a living and survive. But they certainly had time to vote. And they did. Medclinician |
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There are various estimates of how many people supposedly voted illegally, ranging from the number you quoted, to Trump's estimate of 3 million. None of those numbers have yet to be substantiated that I'm aware of, although they're being thrown out as fact.
A right wing blogger called Greg Phillips is the most often quoted, but since he claimed three million votes had been fraudulently cast, he's been either unwilling or unable to provide any evidence to back it up. I'd be interested to see something more substantial than theories and suspicions. Do we have any links to reputable sites that can disprove the current popular vote count? |
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7 million illegal votes cast
ok at this point people are just making up CRAP lets see some EVIDENCE please my state is TOTALLY dominated by Republicans they have been whining about voter "fraud" forever so far they have found exactly 6 votes that MAY have been cast illegally that's right 6 out of over 4 million not 600,000 not 60,000 not 600 not 60 but SIX OFFICIAL counts at this point in time put Hillary 2 million votes ahead once again the PEOPLE clearly picked Clinton the electoral college picked Trump bottom line we're screwed climate change is going to be the BIGGEST issue we face and we have a climate change denier in the White House it's not gonna end well for us and as I have said personally speaking I fully expect another major economic collapse similar to or worse than the one that happened at the end of the Bush debacle now please excuse me I need to access some of my accounts on line and continue moving my money |
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He freakin' WON, what difference does it make? There is no credible evidence of any large-scale voter fraud, the recount effort is stupid & a waste of time and money. Trump is President, we have to deal with it. Maybe it will be good, maybe not...he belongs to his voters and the GOP Congress now. Personally, I think the guy is too erratic to be an effective President, but we have to go through the process. I wonder if the GOP Congress will let him sell skyscrapers to Iran, N. Korea etc.? He will if he can make a buck on it. |
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I absolutely agree, Chuck, and nothing's going to change the result. But I'm just wondering if there is indeed any proof of widespread voter fraud numbering in the millions as is being claimed. Trump is currently lagging behind in the popular vote, but there are those who seem to be trying to muddy the water with what appears to be unsubstantiated accusations of illegal immigrants being organized to vote for his opponent. Just looking to get clarification, because nothing I'm seeing seems to support their assertion that Trump has either a majority, or a mandate.
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yeah EVERYBODY gets it
Trump won the Green Party is covering the cost of any recounts so taxpayers are off the hook last I heard anyway but the funny thing is even Trump himself is insisting the election was "rigged" he's the one claiming millions of illegal votes were cast yet he,like some others here has provided NO evidence I might add that the attacks on Trump are to be EXPECTED they are going to be CONTINUOUS and ya ain't seen nothin' yet remember when Obama was elected? what was the first thing out of that slimey sleaze bag Mitch McConnel's mouth ? he said the Republicans were going to do everything possible to see that he was a one term President and that they were going to fiercely oppose him on "everything" and they did some Democrats are advocating the exact same strategy with Trump what was good for the goose is good for the gander Trump is so thin skinned and has has such a fragile ego that the next four years are going to be interesting the recount effort is of minor interest,it's not going to change anything what I am really concerned about is his not attending daily intelligence briefings the Republicans promise to gut Medicare and the fact that the big orange pumpkin head about to stain the halls of the White House is a climate change denier and you will remember the fact that the last Republican President gave us the biggest economic collapse since the Great Depression |
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Morons who voted for Republicans now worry they will take away their health care—as promised
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...re-as-promised life is hard and its harder when your stupid they wanted it they voted for it and now its time to pay the piper |
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First commercial Havana-bound flights touch down amid transition for U.S., Cuba http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ Does Trump Actually Want to Isolate Cuba—or Build a Golf Course ... http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/29/will_trump_wipe_out_obama_s_opening_to_cuba.html |
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if this pile of steaming crap legislation gets passed
my taxes are going up by at least $1200 a year simply because I have such a good health insurance plan yeah about that new version of "hope and change" A closer look at Tom Price's plan to replace Obamacare https://www.yahoo.com/news/closer-lo...232030244.html and does anybody really think those pathetic subsidies are gonna pay for an elderly persons health care anywhere as good as Medicare does now ? sorry old people you know those "death panels" you were always hearing about ? now your worst fears may come true "hope and change" Republican style LMAO! yes elections do indeed have consequences |
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Could This Man Be Donald Trump’s Future Secretary of Outsourcing?http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/17/could-this-man-be-donald-trump-s-future-secretary-of-outsourcing.html you choices are simple A.you can believe someone's WORDS or B.you can believe their ACTIONS YOU decide |
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wow !
here it is in your face plain as day Hedge fund manager 'takes glee' over how Donald Trump conned his voters http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/30/1605694/-Hedge-fund-manager-takes-glee-over-how-Donald-Trump-conned-his-voters I have to admit I was a little skeptical when I read the title of this story after all DKOS is quite liberal so maybe they slanted this just a tad ? HOWEVER it does include a DIRECT QUOTE YOU read YOU decide " " Hedge fund manager Whitney Tilson was feeling happy Wednesday morning. After Donald Trump ridiculed Wall Street on the campaign trail, the President-elect tapped former Goldman Sachs Group Inc. executive Steven Mnuchin to be his Treasury secretary and billionaire investor Wilbur Ross to lead the Commerce Department. Trump even met with Goldman Sachs President Gary Cohn inside Trump Tower. It would suit Tilson just fine if voters who backed Trump because he promised to rein in Wall Street are furious now that he’s surrounding himself with bankers and billionaires. “I can take glee in that -- I think Donald Trump conned them,” said Tilson, who runs Kase Capital Management. “I worried that he was going to do crazy things that would blow the system up. So the fact that he’s appointing people from within the system is a good thing.” what was that one part again? “I can take glee in that -- I think Donald Trump conned them,” |
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more and more Trump supporters are waking up to the fact that they were conned
“There Will Be Swamp”: Trump Cabinet Picks Confirm Creatures of Washington Still Rule the Earthhttp://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact-and-theory/there-will-be-swamp-trump-cabinet-picks-confirm-creatures-of-washington-still-rule-the-earth_12012016 I was driving back from town just now,and channel surfing on the radio,I stopped on Rush Limbaughs program,why I don't know but he was twisting himself into a knot doing everything he could to try and justify Trump's pick for various cabinet positions it was absolutely sickening to hear him pander and bow and scrape what a TOTAL fraud that guy is and at this point I almost feel sorry for Trump supporters they've been sucker punched BIG TIME and that can't feel good what was that the one per center said again,literally laughing at the time ? “I can take glee in that -- I think Donald Trump conned them,” oh yeah that remember that word CONNED |
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More than 2,000 scientists sign letter to Trump urging respect for science
Two thousand-three hundred scientists, including 22 Nobel prize winners, have written an open letter to president-elect Donald Trump urging him to respect science and protect the Clean Air Act and the Endangered Species Act, calling those laws the "bedrock" of public health and environmental science in America. Trump has raised the ire of scientists and researchers several times in the last 18 months, most recently when he tweeted on Nov 2 that climate change is based on "faulty" science. Trump has also spoken of dismantling the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and canceling the Paris climate agreement. Trump also met with several prominent anti-vaccine advocates while campaigning for the presidency. "Federal agencies should be led by officials with demonstrated track records of respecting science as a critical component of decision making," the letter states. "Federally funded scientists must be able to develop and share their findings free from censorship or manipulation based on politics or ideology." The letter was sponsored by the Union of Concerned Scientists and was signed by scientists in all 50 states. https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucs-documents/science-and-democracy/ucs-scientist-letter-to-trump-11-30-2016.pdf http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2016/12/news-scan-dec-01-2016 |
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Just a joke............
Does anyone else think the charges against Hilary were "Trumped up"? He He...
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I read an article that claimed the White House staff knew nothing about the call until after. If that's the case, he's apparently operating without any input from diplomatic staff. Scary stuff. |
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This sounded like this was a call to Trump congratulating him on his presidency win.
However, Jimmy Carter whose presidency ended in 1981 traveled around the world like his hair was on fire for years afterwards while making peace deals. He's been vocally critical of other presidents' foreign relations policies as well as being critical of Israel. The only time that Jimmy Carter will shut up is when he dies. Obama will be no different. So, people on this forum are more critical of a president elect who will be sworn into office in less than 2 months than they are of past presidents who refuse to step down even after 30 years? |
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Gee you guys want some cheese with all this Whine!
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I can't speak for the rest, but I'm not whining. I'm genuinely scared. I think we just handed the reins to a man who is anything but honorable.
I don't think anyone won here except Trump - he changes political affiliations to further his ambitions as easily as he switches stances and reneges on campaign promises. No wall, no special prosecutor for Clinton, no immediate repeal of the ACA, and probably no Muslim registry is just the start. I suspect a lot of Trump's supporters are going to become increasingly disillusioned with him as he shows his true colors and backtracks on many of the issues he pretended to stand for. Let's face it - draining the swamp is starting to look more like refreshing the swamp. Was a cabinet of the same old rich, white Goldman Sachs/Wall Street elites really what people envisioned when they voted for him? I doubt it. He hasn't even been sworn in yet, and we're already seeing the diplomatic backlash of his inexperience. The Taiwanese leader did initiate the exchange, but he didn't have to personally take the call - that's why he has diplomatic staff. And now he's apparently started to cold call a seemingly random list of foreign leaders without bothering to consult any of his advisers about the potential ramifications. Trump still looks at everything as a deal, and he's acting less like a world leader and more like a door to door vacuum cleaner salesman when he does this. Sorry to be alarmist, but for those who feared a Clinton presidency would increase the chances of global conflict, sit back and watch Trump show you how it's really done. I'm no fan of China's foreign or domestic policy, but this is what you get when you elect someone with no political savvy whatsoever. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-taiwan-idUSKBN13R2NT |
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Trump yelled and screamed about how he would "surround himself with the BEST people"
dear God I hope this is not an example of this he's not even in office yet and has already committed a MAJOR diplomatic blunder "the BEST" people would not have allowed this to happen that is their job major FAIL |
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Despite my joking, like Jacksdad I am genuinely scared. "When America sneezes, the world catches cold."
Without America resisting Russia in Syria, the Syrian government can withhold gas supplies from Turkey (This is a bit complicated but bear with me.) as a favor to Assad's friend Putin. Turkey was going to supply this gas to Europe. Without this second supply, and the market competition it promotes, the Russians can charge anything they like for the stuff. Terrible news for us. America has military bases all around China. Which the Chinese have tolerated rather well. Now imagine these two senarios: 1, A heavily armed man walks up your drive smiling and says: "Hi there friend. I hear you have some influence in this neighborhood. I hope we can do business together." 2, A heavily armed man walks up your drive smiling and says: "Hi there. I just made friends with your sworn enemy." #1, is the personal equivalent of the outgoing administration's approach. #2, is the personal equivalent of Trump taking calls from the Taiwanese government. Admitedly Taiwan is far nicer than China and a sovreign state, but one needs to recognise the threat here. Finally (for now) it appears that he is recruiting faschist/racist people to be his closest aides. Start practicing now.... Repeat after me: "Heil Trump!" No, I'm NOT joking.. I am close to tears. |
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Gee, where were you guys when Obama was elected in 2008. A community organizer, never had a real job, 2.5 years as a Senator, no executive experience at all and none of you complained. Obama has mounted up more debt than all presidents combined so all of your whining and fear,because Trump has done nothing wrong, is not logical. "All we have to fear is fear it's self."
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Flumom,
These people have watched too much of CNN, the "Clinton News Network" and have been brainwashed. What I don't understand, though, is how they've managed to ignore the worst for the past 8 years. These people will continue to vote Democrat for the following reasons. 1) They believe that the government can do a better job of spending their money than they could. 2) They're too irresponsible to own a gun and believe that the police can and will protect them when they experience a home invasion. 3) They believe that illegals should have the right to free health care and social security. 4) They don't care about paying $9,000 a year for a single person health policy because they don't mind supporting someone else who doesn't pay. 5) They don't mind Muslim extremists crossing our southern border and actually want to roll out the welcome mat for them. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits"… Albert Einstein |
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In 2008, we were staring down the barrel of an imploding housing market, deepening recession and possible global depression, FluMom. I don't remember much to be nostalgic about in the last years of the Bush administration.
Maybe in four years we will be looking at a significant reduction in our national debt. Personally I have no faith in Trump's ability to do it based on his plan to cut taxes (government revenue) and increase infrastructure spending, but I live in hope. And fingers crossed we'll still be around to discuss it. Crabby - you know we can read the posts where you talk about us to someone else, right? |
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good luck to Trump in bringing back the 10 million manufacturing jobs that have been lost since 1979
and in the next few years a whole lot of other jobs are gonna disappear too Apple shows ambition to get into self-driving car race https://ca.news.yahoo.com/apple-shows-ambition-self-driving-car-race-031119943--finance.html it's obvious a LOT of truck and taxi cab driver jobs will disappear in the coming years but a lot of other jobs are gonna go with them "Some analysts forecast millions of jobs will be lost once self-driving cars largely replace truck, taxi and Uber drivers, and eliminate the need for most vehicle repairs, insurance adjusters and other functions." FoxConn-the guys that make Apple's products just announced that 60,000 jobs disappeared why? the workers were replaced with robots and we are merely in the beginning stages technology is hitting like a tidal wave things are changing faster than society can adjust individuals need to think hard about their job choices tens of millions of no skill or semi skilled jobs like truck drivers,waiters,and factory work are going to go POOF and NO one can change that I don't care how big a Luddite they might be Fourth Turning get used to it the years ahead are going to be TUMULTUOUS ti sat the least people sitting around waiting for the government to do something are gonna be disappointed Stephen Hawking defined intelligence as "the ability to ADAPT to CHANGE" get with the program or get left behind there is literally a new paradigm few people seem to realize this the "good old days" aren't coming back |
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Yep - absolutely right. Automation is the reason for a lot of job losses in manufacturing.
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There are so many reports & articles floating around, it is hard to keep track of. It appears that the call was set up by Trump staff who were in Taiwan. The call did go from Taiwan to Trump, but it was hardly innocent. This is very good: |
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Sure technology has taken many jobs but when a company says "We are moving to Mexico." Automation is a BS argument.
I can tell you why United Technology/Carrier did not move...Government contracts. They do Millions and Millions with the government so I believer that the U.S. Government should only buy American! I bet that will bring back lots of companies back to the U.S. as well as better taxes, Obama Care Killed, and the onerous EPA rules repealed. It is time to buy American! |
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Carrier wasn't moving to Mexico because of automation
it's moving because wages there are SUBSTANTIALLY lower 3-6$ an hour vs 25-28$ in the US and yes Trump probably did threaten to yank lucrative government contracts to blackmail UT in to keeping a few of those Carrier jobs and even that was only PARTIALLY effective wasn't it? 2100 jobs were at stake,only 800 are staying wages/benefits are much more in this country because gee we actually like to have health insurance and vacation and sick days and workers comp if we get hurt on the job in third world countries you have NO safety net is that what we want in this country ? great RACE TO THE BOTTOM read a little history particularly what life was like for the average person working in a factory or coal mine in the early 1900's that's not what I want to go back to the average person is QUITE ignorant of how things used to be |
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I'm loving this !
Sarah Palin Slams Donald Trump’s Carrier Deal as ‘Crony Capitalism’http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sarah-palin-crony-capitalism-carrier_us_58420349e4b017f37fe4c443 Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin Already Mad at Donald Trump: ‘Big Sell-Out Is Cominghttp://www.thewrap.com/ann-coulter-sarah-palin-donald-trump-already-mad-sell-out-crony-capitalism/ from Sarah's mouth to God's ear “crony capitalism” and “one big fail” don't kill the messenger I report YOU decide two of the right wings most prominent figures no less !!! |
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What kind of posts are you talking about? I haven't privately messaged anyone and since I don't log in I can't do this anyway. Get over yourself. |
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
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Jacksdad,
WOW! I was speaking in general terms about Democrats, but if you took my message personally, then I guess I must have hit my mark. It is obvious to me that you are incapable of agreeing to disagree, a poor trait for a "chief moderator". |
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These people will continue to vote Democrat for the following reasons.
1) They believe that the government can do a better job of spending their money than they could. 2) They're too irresponsible to own a gun and believe that the police can and will protect them when they experience a home invasion. 3) They believe that illegals should have the right to free health care and social security. 4) They don't care about paying $9,000 a year for a single person health policy because they don't mind supporting someone else who doesn't pay. 5) They don't mind Muslim extremists crossing our southern border and actually want to roll out the welcome mat for them. hmm let me go over these points one by one 1)there is no evidence to suggest that individuals are any better at managing their finances do I really need to give examples ? 2)my favorite weapon by far is a short barrel 12 gauge loaded with "home defender" type rounds,ie. a slug combined with 00 3)no illegal aliens should not have the right to free health care or social security but they should never be denied life saving treatment in an emergency dept 4)no one likes paying for health insurance but lets be honest,health care costs have ALWAYS increased to blame the Democrats is just plain wrong and LAZY wanna know why health insurance is so expensive ? just a few examples-I had a pt recently who was on on 28 prescription medications but thats not the record I had one who was actually on 36 medications and people are demanding unlimited access to health care,well the newest and the latest costs a hell of a lot of $$$ one new cancer drug being advertised on tv VERY HEAVILY costs $150,000 for the initial treatment and then $14,000 a month after that I worked with a pt this weekend who gets a medication 3 times a week,it costs $3,000 a dose 26 weeks in a year equals 78 doses equals $234,000 a year,is my math correct,? how many people have to pay into the insurance pool to cover just that one med for just one pt? so if Americans want that type of health care then my advice is shut the hell up and open your wallet OR start that brain dead and uneducated,uninformed crying about "death panels" again 5) roll out the welcome mat ? seriously? not even gonna comment on that |
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jacksdad
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Yep - what Satori said (except my favorite to shoot is a large caliber bolt action. Totally impractical, loud enough to scare everyone at the range, and soon to be joined by a pump load 12 gauge in the new year, along with another .22 semi automatic rifle so my son and I can go plinking together).
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jacksdad
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There are qualifications? Sheesh, I didn't know. Get real, Crabby. This is the internet, and it's a tough neighborhood. AFT differs from most in that it's actually pretty civil, and you haven't yet been booted for some of your more colorful comments. And I'm not talking about the current discussion before you start bleating about freedom of speech (which doesn't apply to those who disagree with you it appears). I'm talking about those days when you wake up with the urge to vent about how unfair the world has been to you, and decide to pay us a visit because your neighbors learned to run from the front door to their cars long ago. Administrators and moderators on other sites rarely conduct themselves like we do. Don't believe me? As a guest, pick a fight with a member of the moderator group on any other survivalist site and see how long you last before any or all of them descend on you like wolverines on PCP. Enjoy that fact, but don't ever assume that it gives you carte blanche to abuse it. We are undoubtedly the nicest people planning for the end of civilization as we know it, but we have limits. I didn't fill out an application to become one of the chief moderators, and I certainly don't get paid. In fact, I'm not even sure how long I had the title before I happened to notice it one day. Something in my online persona apparently persuaded Albert to make the change, and I'm very grateful that he did. I love this site and it means a lot to me, but I'm not aware that the promotion (if it can be called that) came with any conditions or rules about how I was to behave. So, your point is....? That said, I do conduct myself differently these days and attempt to stay out of anything too contentious. Commenting on the current administration is not one of them. It can hardly be characterized as having nothing to do with me, because for the next four years it will deeply impact my life in many ways. It is my business whether you like it or not, and I have every right to comment. And while our current President-elect might frown on us minions criticizing him, it certainly won't stop his many detractors any more than it stopped Obama being pilloried for eight years (in many cases, by Trump himself). It doesn't work that way. Not on Twitter, not here and not anywhere in the real world. Agree to disagree - seriously? What you really want is for me to shut up and stop arguing with you, so you're going to package it up all nice and polite as an inability on my part to empathize with you. And for good measure, you threw the whole "you're a bad, bad chief moderator" thing in there too? Nice try. How's that working out for you? Register and make yourself accountable and I'll have a lot more respect. Stomping your feet and shouting from the sidelines doesn't cut it. |
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What Jacksdad said. Except insert senior for chief.
For what it is worth: I think Jacksdad is a wonderful moderator, and I appreciate Albert picking him, and me. In fact, all the moderators are now classed as friends in my eyes.
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