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http://https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/28/us/politics/biosecurity-trump-budget-defense.html?rref=collection%2Fnewseventcollection%2FThe%20Trump%20White%20House&action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=Collection&region=Marginalia&src=me&version=newsevent&pgtype=article

Pres. Trump seeks to gut our public health and pandemic response infrastructure:

The Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response, which tracks outbreaks of disease, would be cut by $136 million, or 9.7 percent. The National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases — a branch of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that fights threats like anthrax and Ebola — would be cut by $65 million, or 11 percent.

The C.D.C.’s Center for Global Health would lose $76 million, or 18 percent. Its Emergency Operations Center, which conducts real-time monitoring of outbreak responses, and its Select Agents Program, which sets regulations in lethal toxin labs and helps researchers stay ahead of bioterrorists, face unspecified cuts as well.

Experts in biological threats are reacting with alarm.

“It’s horrific — worse than I expected,” says J. Stephen Morrison, the director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “They’re just gutting things, overlaying salt upon key institutions, with devastating human impact.”

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Trump-Pence budget would weaken response to outbreaks of infectious disease

By Sean Cahill, opinion contributor - 05/30/17 01:21 PM EDT

If the Trump-Pence budget released earlier this week had been in place just a few short years ago, the level of public health in Austin, Ind., would likely now mirror that of a country in sub-Saharan Africa, where rates of HIV transmission and infection are high and there are little to no public health prevention services available.

In 2015, Austin, which is located in rural Scott County, was hit with a devastating outbreak of HIV that will cost taxpayers at least $180 million to treat. At its height, then-President Obama was receiving daily updates on attempts to contain the epidemic, which began in November 2014 when the first of 181 HIV diagnoses were made throughout a 12-month period. For context, a total of five cases of HIV had been diagnosed in all of Scott County during the previous decade.

Four months after the initial HIV diagnosis, then-Gov. Mike Pence
declared a public health emergency, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention oversaw a contact tracing investigation to find — as quickly as possible — anyone who had had sexual contact or shared intravenous needles with the first 11 people who had been diagnosed with HIV.

The labor-intensive process, which is described in detail in a New England Journal of Medicine article about the HIV outbreak, required a team of experienced epidemiologists who were trained in conducting sensitive interviews about highly personal behavior. Through these interviews, investigators identified 536 people who might have been exposed to HIV. They located 468 of them and administered HIV tests on the spot.

If the Trump-Pence budget had been in place, this work would not have been possible. The proposed budget would cut CDC funding by $1 billion, or 9 percent, and the cuts specifically target programs that respond to outbreaks of infectious disease, such as HIV. (The Trump-Pence budget would also cut the CDC’s HIV, hepatitis, sexually-transmitted disease, and tuberculosis prevention by 17 percent).

As a result of the CDC’s contact tracing efforts, an additional 170 people with HIV were identified, and they required immediate medical care. The Midwest AIDS Education and Training Center, one of many such centers around the country that are funded by the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program, took the lead in connecting these people with healthcare providers. The center also provided in-depth training in HIV care to doctors and other clinicians who had never before treated anyone with HIV, which is a complicated chronic disease that impacts treatment for other, more common, chronic conditions such as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and hypertension.

If the Trump-Pence budget had been in place, this work would not have been possible, as the Trump-Pence budget proposes total elimination of every AIDS Education and Training Center in the country.

Treatment of HIV is medically-intensive. Fortunately, just weeks after the first case of HIV was diagnosed, as the authors of the NEJM article write, the state of Indiana had “fortuitously” accepted the Medicaid expansion offered by the Affordable Care Act (ACA). This new availability of health insurance to people who had, for the most part, been uninsured, “helped to ensure health care coverage in the largely uninsured and impoverished community that was affected by the outbreak and facilitated the immediate enrollment, coverage, and access to critical health care services, including HIV treatment.”

If the Trump-Pence budget had been in place, this treatment would not have been given. The budget proposes a massive cut in Medicaid services which, when coupled with passage of the American Health Care Act, would almost surely result in a loss of health insurance — and access to care — for those now being treated for HIV.

People with HIV have disproportionately benefited from state Medicaid expansions. Before passage of the ACA, 36 percent of people living with HIV obtained their health insurance through Medicaid; after passage of the ACA that number rose to 42 percent. Meanwhile, the rate of no insurance among people with HIV fell from 22 percent to 15 percent.

The most amazing thing about the Indiana HIV outbreak — which rapidly spread through a loosely connected network of opioid addicts who were sharing needles — was the public response to it. It required coordination among federal, state, and county agencies.

The most amazing thing about the Indiana HIV outbreak — which rapidly spread through a loosely connected network of opioid addicts who were sharing needles — was the public response to it. It required coordination among federal, state, and county agencies.

It required sophisticated training for healthcare providers. It required extensive lobbying of Pence by federal and state officials, who needed the then-governor to back a new state law in Indiana that would legalize needle exchange programs. It required a massive effort to put public health, education, and prevention resources in place where there had been none previously.

Indeed, just one year before the first HIV diagnosis, the only healthcare provider in Scott County that offered free HIV testing and substance abuse treatment was a Planned Parenthood clinic that was forced to close after Indiana lawmakers voted to defund it.

The second most amazing thing about the Indiana HIV outbreak is how quickly lawmakers like Pence seem to have forgotten about it. The CDC has identified 220 counties in 26 states with conditions that make them just as vulnerable to an eruption of HIV as Scott County was: pervasive opioid addiction among impoverished rural residents where there is no access to sterile needle exchanges or treatment for addiction and limited access to basic healthcare and HIV prevention services.

Imagine if the public had turned its back on the residents of Austin as HIV made its way through the population? Imagine if HIV had been allowed to progress among those newly infected without any treatment? Imagine what Austin would look like now?

Well, that’s easy. Austin now has an HIV prevalence rate of approximately four percent, which is comparable to that found Nigeria and Cameroon, where HIV spreads among poor people who have limited access to treatment or prevention services. Unlike Nigeria and Cameroon, however, when a major public health crisis struck Austin, its residents enjoyed the benefit of a coordinated local, state, and federal response to HIV that continues today.

The Trump-Pence budget is a radical rejection of the social compact that has sustained the United States for 50 years. Its proposed gutting of Medicaid would end the provision of health insurance for millions of poor people that has been in place Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty in 1965. Its cuts to the Children’s Health Insurance Program and general welfare programs that help people living in poverty pay for food would decimate the social safety net.

It casts our most vulnerable people aside and leaves them to fend for themselves without the resources they need to succeed. If enacted, vast swaths of our country would look more like a developing nation than our own.

Sean Cahill, Ph.D., is Director of Health Policy Research at the Fenway Institute, a group that advocates for the LGBT community, people living with HIV/AIDS and the larger community.




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Trumpcare tax cuts to nation's 400 wealthiest families is Medicaid blood money

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/22/1674114/-Trumpcare-tax-cuts-to-nation-s-400-wealthiest-families-is-Medicaid-blood-money

Medicaid is the first program to be GUTTED
next will be Medicare and the Social Security
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Senate GOP bill would gut critical public health funding this fall


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/06/22/senate-gop-bill-would-gut-critical-public-health-funding-this-fall/?utm_term=.8e9bbd380336


MAKE AMERICA SICK AGAIN !!!


Another failed policy of a CORRUPT,INCOMPETENT President

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

Another failed policy of a CORRUPT,INCOMPETENT President


Well, also the corrupt, incompetent politicians (House and Senate) who support him!  

It's all rather remarkable....the Republicans are strongest in rural states that are most at risk for effects of climate change (torrential rains & flooding, drought, agricultural collapse) and these areas are also suffering from poor health and high levels of narcotic addiction. 

So what does Drumpf do?  Propose cutting their Medicaid, food subsidies, funding for drug programs etc. 

The idiot voters of this country are like lemmings, marching off of a cliff!  I can understand the anxiety about gun ownership (I own a few), and the Gorsuch appointment pretty much takes care of that for another 20 years or so.  

However, to gut public health to give the money to the damn rich is ridiculous.  Thanks, Satori! 

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Gessen—The Reichstag fire next time: The coming crackdown

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/23/1674580/-Open-thread-for-night-owls-Gessen-The-Reichstag-fire-next-time-The-coming-crackdown

"“In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government — a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.”
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I have started a new thread about the biggest problem in America now. The ultra-left who will not give up and are trying to assassinate the president. The budget must be cut and balanced and if not - the government will not only run out of money - but not be able to borrow any more and shut down. The Democrats passed much of this without ever thinking of anything but votes by many people who do not work, collect on these programs, especially illegal immigrants, and now are freaking out because they can't continue to spend.

If we do not increase our defense spending and cut welfare to people who not even citizens of our country and people who will not work and don't even try, we will face another great depression.

What you had most to fear when Trump took the oath were the haters, the violent, and other nations who want to continue ripping the U.S. off, taking the jobs, selling us products, and shutting down our factories. Had Hillary been elected, there would have been a no-fly zone in Syria, she would order a nuclear counter strike when Russia launched and most of use would be dead.

What was done for the last eight years was criminal. Huge sums of money were paid in cash to the Iranians to finance terrorism. We have this ridiculous investigation when our President Obama was openly helping the very extremists and enemies of American while being raised by Muslims and was their greatest friend. Trump is no friend of Russia. They hate him.

So get your ducks in a row and realize who the real enemies and terrorists are that are the most danger to America. It has nothing to do with Trump. It is the anarchists and racists that put any past racial unrest or hatred of color to shame.

You are going to see a lot more problems from them than Trump. And much like all the movie stars and has beens, you may get your wish and he may be assassinated. That will be a sad day for America and there were be a civil war and anarchy in streets so bad - you will wish people had just accepted Trump and tried to help in whatever way they could.

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hmmm
some of da sheep wakin' up ?

Trumpmania Cools in This Pennsylvania Town


https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-25/trumpmania-cools-in-this-pennsylvania-town


now this is funny

""You got to give the guy a chance," said Kevin Iacovangelo, a computer-repair specialist, agreeing with Mavrakis that "nobody gets anything done in 150 days."


cause'


this is what Trump said

Trump’s claim that ‘no administration has accomplished more in the first 90

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/04/20/trumps-claim-that-no-administration-has-accomplished-more-in-the-first-90-days/?utm_term=.ef21bf0fe95f


someone seems to be mistaken ?


how do you like Trumpcare?

is it ANYTHING like Trump PROMISED?


happy with the FACT that tens of millions are going to lose their insurance ?

happy with the fact that Medicaid is going to be GUTTED despite Trumps campaign promise not to do so ?


happy with the FACT that for older people with preexisting conditions that their rates WILL be going

up SUBSTANTIALLY?


IS TRUMPCARE ANYTHING LIKE WHAT HE PROMISED ???


I have NO problem with someone criticizing Clinton or Obama

but I find it very annoying that Trump supporters give him a pass on EVERYTHING


no matter how many time he LIES

it is just ignored and glossed over

at this point Trump seems to have what could accurately be described as a cult following

and Trump is the SAVIOUR



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PROMISES, PROMISES: What Trump has pledged on health care

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/promises-promises-what-trump-has-pledged-on-health-care/2017/06/26/c913ddc8-5a3e-11e7-aa69-3964a7d55207_story.html?utm_term=.0969be0a1080


"But the White House never delivered a health care plan from the president."


GEE

YA THINK ???


more failed policies from a FAILED President

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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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there is something seriously SERIOUSLY wrong with Trump
delusions of grandeur ???


and then there  is this


Drain The Swamp? New Trump Appointee Is A Saudi Lobbyist


http://www.blacklistednews.com/Drain_The_Swamp%3F_New_Trump_Appointee_Is_A_Saudi_Lobbyist/59380/0/38/38/Y/M.html


how much more swamp drainin' can we take ?LOL

and wasn't it members of the Saudi royal family who financed 9-11 ???

just sayin'......

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Trump attorney Jay Sekulow’s family has been paid millions from charities they control


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/trump-attorney-jay-sekulows-family-has-been-paid-millions-from-charities-they-control/2017/06/27/6428d988-5852-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.4f05a74af358


draining the swamp

OR

FILLING THE SWAP

you decide

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I'm leaving this here and walking away. Make of it what you will... Ermm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.?utm_term=.3dc3f66c6bc4 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-time-magazine-with-trump-on-the-cover-hangs-in-his-golf-clubs-its-fake/2017/06/27/0adf96de-5850-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html?utm_term=.3dc3f66c6bc4




 
I wonder if Time Magazine will feature Trump on it's cover in the future:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Qxwg6taUc#t=415.861

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbyJ8cvtbRQ
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As the lady says on the second youtube video:  "Fake news!"  Trump himself faked it and can't disclaim this one.  He was caught red handed. - Sorry that should read: "red bordered."
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chump is a PIG......
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

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Trump administration plan to cut antimicrobial resistance funding

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/29/1676585/-Trump-administration-plan-to-cut-antimicrobial-resistance-funding

and the GROSS INCOMPETENCE continues !!!
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CIA: Putin personally ordered cyber campaign to help get Trump elected

http://deadstate.org/cia-putin-personally-ordered-cyber-campaign-to-help-get-trump-elected/


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A truly horrific abuse of the system, but not stupid.  Actually Chump is amazingly canny.  

Take the fake news for instance:  He both publishes fake news (like the Time magazine cover) and then accuses the media of fake news.  That way he promotes his own image fantastically well.

Then, having found that Russia was tinkering with the electoral system (to get the Democrats out of power) he publicly blames the Democrats for not stopping it - because they were in power at the time (even though they started an attempt to remove such threats but did not have time or the support to finish the programme).  Of course he is not going to push on with the Obama administration's unfinished attempts to block such things, they are far too useful to him.  He both gets help AND can blame the opposition for the unfairness - a double win.

I am no Democrat, I think them quite objectionally crooked.  But, compared to Trump's administration a corkscrew would look straight!
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After Backing Trump, Christians Who Fled Iraq Fall Into His Dragnet


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/after-backing-trump-christians-who-fled-iraq-fall-into-his-dragnet/ar-BBDLI0c?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=ACERDHP15


yeah

this is what the country is turning into


SHAME ON US and SHAME ON TRUMP

what an incredible BETRAYAL

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Trump Fans Throw a Conniption Fit After NPR Tweets out the Declaration of Independence


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trump-fans-throw-conniption-fit-after-npr-tweets-out-declaration-independence


goes a long way in explaining why the country is on such a downward slide

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Donald Trump gets confused looking for his presidential limousine


https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-gets-confused-looking-101700958.html


just the most recent of incidents


there IS something fundamentally wrong with Trump

Alzheimers ?

senile dementia?

sun downing ?

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Sorry, Satori, I could not get that to load.  

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This is pretty ancient (politically speaking) but kind of goes with it:

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CIA: Putin personally ordered cyber campaign to help get Trump elected

http://deadstate.org/cia-putin-personally-ordered-cyber-campaign-to-help-get-trump-elected/



Putin is gonna own this Chump when they meet at G-20.  

"Oh Donald, you are such a genius!!  What are all of your nuclear launch codes?" 
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The Atlantic City casino Trump built for $1.2 billion is having a liquidation sale — here's everything up for grabs


http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-taj-mahal-atlantic-city-holding-liquidation-sale-2017-7/#the-national-content-liquidators-who-have-worked-with-trump-at-barbizon-plaza-in-the-past-is-conducting-the-sale-3


"The casino, which opened in 1990, was once dubbed the "eighth wonder of the world" by Trump. But by 1991 the casino had declared bankruptcy, as Trump had financed it with $900 million in junk bonds. CNN recently reported that the casino broke anti-money laundering rules 106 times during its first year of business."


I guess they ain't buildin' "wonders of the world" like they used to?LOL

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How can you own all the big casinos in town and still lose money? You have Donald Trump pillaging them to pay off his debts is how...

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html



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Trump's "Russia problem" is FAR from over

Broker, mobster, fraudster and Trump associate Felix Sater agrees to cooperate with investigation



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/6/1678336/-Broker-mobster-fraudster-and-Trump-associate-Felix-Sater-agrees-to-cooperate-with-investigation
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Trump admin moves closer to undoing overtime pay rule


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-admin-moves-closer-to-undoing-overtime-pay-rule/ar-AAoPwpW?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=ACERDHP15


Happy NOW ???

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Satori, we all know you hate Trump but give it a rest! Better yet Satori go to a Forum that wants to hear from you on your hate of President Trump. This site is for helping people prep not for you to spew hate for our President.

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just posting what Trump does and what Trump says

sorry

not gonna stand back and do nothing while this CORRUPT,INCOMPETENT IDIOT
does everything he can to destroy the country

and let me point out that my posts are made in the correct sections of this FORUM
if you don't like the political stuff
then STAY OUT OF THE KITCHEN
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Lisa Murkowski Cancels Key Interior Hearings After Ryan Zinke Threatens Her


http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/lisa-murkowski-cancels-key-interior


good for Murkowski


standing up to a bully and a thug


YOU GO GIRL!!!


Trump's bull in a china shop strategy is backfiring BADLY

he's making a LOT of enemies

and they are REPUBLICAN enemies at that

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Gee look at the Democrat Leader Debbie Wasserman Schultz! She threatens a Cop!

But the liberal media skips over this except Drudge!


"Former DNC Chief Debbie Wasserman Schultz openly threatened the Capitol Police Chief during a public hearing after he refused to return a laptop at the heart of Schultz’ widening IT scandal, warning he would face grave “consequences” for his actions.
The exchange happened in May, after Capitol Police found missing computer equipment relating to their investigation of Imran Awan, Schultz’ shady IT staffer who was arrested earlier this week while trying to flee the country.
“I’d like to know how Capitol Police handle equipment that belongs to a member or staffer that’s been lost within the Capitol complex and found or recovered by one of your officers. What happens?” Schultz grilled Police Chief Matthew Verderosa.
“It’s processed on […] a property record,” he responded. “And depending on the property, depending if you can legitimately determine ownership then it’s generally turned back over to the owner of the property. If it’s part of an ongoing case then there are other things that have to occur for that to happen.”
“So if a member says that they have equipment that’s been lost, and you find it, it would be returned to the member?” pressed the former DNC boss.
“In the general sense, yes,” said Verderosa. “It depends on the circumstances.”
“I don’t see how that’s possible,” said Schultz.
“I think there’s extenuating circumstances in this case […] and with the permission of the investigation we’ll return the equipment. Until that’s accomplished I can’t return the equipment,” he added.
“I think you’re violating the rules when you conduct your business in that way. And you should expect there will be consequences,” warned Schultz."
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that story has appeared on NUMEROUS other sites
I read about it and it wasn't on Drudge

and if Wasseman Schultz has broken the law

then prosecute her

but as of right now
the Chief and her are just arguing over interpretation of some rules
if the Chief is violating the rules there should be consequences
if not
then he has NOTHING to worry about does he?

tempest in a teapot unless other evidence comes forward
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You both make my point perfectly for me.  Thank you!

Whichever of the two turns out to have been in the wrong (and it is not usually the cop in cases like this so I suspect the Democrat is in the wrong - lets hope the truth comes out soon.) the public can find out through the media.  Silence the media and we will never know.  That would be the greater crime.

I have, in my past, had many dealings with TV news and newspapers.  They were irritating, intrusive and not adverse to twisting the facts till they squeaked.  But, even the worst of them, told no outright lies.  That vice was exclusively perpetrated by a few politicians.  

At their worst, the media is a necessary evil, at their best, they are the life blood of politics.  

No swamp was ever drained in the dark.
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Satori, we all know you hate Trump but give it a rest! Better yet Satori go to a Forum that wants to hear from you on your hate of President Trump. This site is for helping people prep not for you to spew hate for our President.


FluMom, Pres. Trump hasn't been doing us preppers any favors lately!  He wants to cut the HHS budget for disease response/preparedness etc.  

The only good thing is that ammo is cheap and plentiful!  Clap
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Flumom: This is "General Discussion" If you don't like the discussion don't join in but don't tell the rest of us to go away! I don't agree with much of what you and Med have to say but my family has fought and died for your and Med and Satori's right to say what you believe! I for one won't be bullied,not by you, not by Trump and not by the far righteous!
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No surrender!  Hurrah!  

Say it like it is Arirish!  That is why I am such a yankophile! I too come from a family where many fought and died for our empire and for the right to speak our mind.  Apart from the fact that our governments have managed, quite successfully, to disarm us and turn us into sheep over the last few decades.  We still occasionally manage to overcome their, often oppressive, activities.

No one in any society should be in a position where they are allowed, by consent or default, to have absolute control, especially religious and political leaders.  

Defend the right to bear arms and to question the ruling elite (Yes, us rebellious Anglo-Irish can use that word too).

Silencing people on a thread is as heinous and aggressive as silencing the press.
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just posted on the ultra RIGHT WING site REDSTATE

YIKES: Donald Trump Is The One Responsible For The Russian Meeting Lies


http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2017/07/31/yikes-donald-trump-one-responsible-russian-meeting-lies/


AGAIN

I ask a very simple question


IF YOUR NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG

WHY LIE ABOUT IT ???


"A FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN"

a perfect description of the Trump White House

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

just posted on the ultra RIGHT WING site REDSTATE

YIKES: Donald Trump Is The One Responsible For The Russian Meeting Lies


http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2017/07/31/yikes-donald-trump-one-responsible-russian-meeting-lies/


AGAIN

I ask a very simple question


IF YOUR NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG

WHY LIE ABOUT IT ???


"A FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN"

a perfect description of the Trump White House


Not just right wing, Washington Post also reports:

Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said that he and the Russian lawyer had “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children” when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations. The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared an article, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was “not a campaign issue at the time.”




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Conway: 'Bend The Knee' To Trump Because He's Your Superior


http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/conway-says-bend-knee-trump-because-hes


a significant # of Trumps followers are deranged and downright delusional


whats next?


cries of Il Duce Il Duce  Il Duce ???

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Gee Satori, just because one person who works for the President says " Bend the knee" does not mean everyone thinks this. You are just taking anything anyone says to spew your hate of President Trump. You have a real problem and you are not doing your reputation any good. You will be looked at as deranged and delusional.
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Well, I was not going to bother to look this story up, but the discussion's heat persuaded me.  It goes:

The crazy talk that comes out of the mouths of Trump surrogates is unparalleled in modern day history.

Last week, Kellyanne Conway told Fox News' Martha MacCallum that people should treat Trump like the King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.

She recounted the day Trump asked her to be his campaign manager.

“I said to him something that day I’m going to repeat now, to my colleagues in the White House,” she said. I'll never address you by your first name and I don’t consider myself your peer and he said OK.”

Normal people, normal politicians do not speak to one another like this.

Conway made sure to say he's a great boss for women. Sure thing, Kellyanne. Just keep yourself at arms-length. Seriously.

“I do think that it's important to set up that level of deference and humility when you’ve got someone who’s your boss. Now the President of the United States, now the chief of staff, a general, a secretary, who is clearly your senior, you know, your superior” she said.

Conway continued, "I think it's very important that people not treat elected officials [like the President and Vice President] as their peers."

“Don’t read into that, everybody,” Conway added. “Stop. Put your keyboards down, that’s not about anyone.”

Inherently there is respect for the office of the president, but during Bill Clinton's presidency, conservatives, the media and Republicans alike smashed that respect to smithereens.

Why any White House official would recount a story about how honored they are to shine Trump's shoes is beyond me


Well he is not stupid enough to be Tomen, nasty enough to be Joffrey or feminine enough to be Cersei.


Robert Berathion!  He won the crown by force - even took out a mad king to do it, whored around and treated his wife as a chattel - a true mysogenist, but loved by his friends and his children.


I do not particularily like Trump, but I hope he does not hunt wild boar - leave that to Putin.

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His lips or pen are moving.
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This is the relationship i have with my boss and the owner of the company I work for ,and I say " I'm not here to agree with you,you pay me for my experience,so if I think your wrong I will say" but he who pays the Piper calls the tune,or the buck stops with POTUS
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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Gee Satori, just because one person who works for the President says " Bend the knee" does not mean everyone thinks this. You are just taking anything anyone says to spew your hate of President Trump. You have a real problem and you are not doing your reputation any good. You will be looked at as deranged and delusional.


I NEVER said "all"

I said a "significant number"

and I stand by that statement or I wouldn't have made it

my proof ???

just look at the behavior

thats ALL you need to know to make a judgement

and here is your populist President
your "man of the people"LOLLOLLOL

Trump: ‘That White House is a real dump’


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-that-white-house-is-a-real-dump-2017-08-01


hopefully this is not true

but it certainly would be consistent wouldn't it ???

if Trump did say this

he is NOT WORTHY of the Office

what a horribly offensive thing to say


face FACTS

Trump is the oily,pompadour haired political equivalent of a TV evangelist


and

oh

STILL waiting on that list of all of Trumps great accomplishmentsTongue


ok nothing so far ?

here,let ME get you started


1)illegal immigration down by 70%,a country should vigorously enforce its laws in my opinion

gotta give Trump a couple of Brownie points for that

ok

now its your turn


2)

3)

4)

5)

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Gee Satori, just because one person who works for the President says " Bend the knee" does not mean everyone thinks this. You are just taking anything anyone says to spew your hate of President Trump. You have a real problem and you are not doing your reputation any good. You will be looked at as deranged and delusional.


since we're talking about DELUSIONAL behaviorWink

this is from DAILY KOS a well known LEFT wing web site
oh wait
no its  not
its from REDSTATE a WELL KNOWN RIGHT WING web site
perhaps the right wingiest web site ever !!!

Trump Is Touting Imaginary Calls About Imaginary Praise For Awful Performances


http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2017/08/01/trump-touting-imaginary-calls-about-imaginary-praise-awful-performances/


our poor deluded President

whats next seeing visions of  adoring supporters who don't exist?

hallucinating?

hearing voices ?


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