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GREAT article Jacksdad

it certainly is possible to see Trump ending civilization
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a million and a half ?
official sources are sticking to their figure on ONLY 250,00 attending the ceremony signifying the collapse of the country

Trump is claiming a million and a half ?
good God
is there anyone who does not see this man for what he is ?

Trump claims 'a million and a half' at his inauguration—delivers whooping lie in front of CIA

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/21/1623245/-Trump-claims-a-million-and-a-half-at-his-inauguration-delivers-whooping-lie-in-front-of-CIA

the DELUSIONS of grandeur are beyond describing in words

at this point I have went from being worried about Trump
to being terrified of him
something is DESPERATELY DESPERATELY wrong with this man
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OriginalHappyCamper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 7:21am
I read this thread and lost a lot of respect for most of the posters.
Jesus Christ died and was raised on the third day, the only "God" to overcome death.
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if you have FACTS of your own
that contradict anything said here
by all means lets see them
this is a forum for discussion after all
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 3:58pm
The thing is Trump seems to be able to dish it out ,but boy their administration have real thin skins ,for Conway to ask "why are we getting a bad press" sweety this is the REAL WORLD people are going to Call you out on anything you say,and guess what YOU CANT FIRE THEM,you need to rise above it,(and boy is she Ugly).....oops bit incorrect but this is the trump era....
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He Is Risen… But For How Long?

http://kunstler.com/cluster*****-nation/he-is-risen-but-for-how-long/


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If the first forty-eight hours are any measure of the alleged Trumptopia-to-come, the leading man in this national melodrama appears to be meshuga. A more charitable view might be that his behavior does not comport with the job description: president. If he keeps it up, I stick to my call that we will see him removed by extraordinary action within a few months. It might be a lawful continuity-of-government procedure according to the 25th Amendment — various high officials declaring him “incapacited” — or it might be a straight-up old school coup d’état (“You’re fired”).

I believe the trigger for that may be an overwhelming financial crisis in the early second quarter of the year. In, the first case, under Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, it works like this:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Or else, it will be an orchestrated cabal of military and intelligence officers — not necessarily evil men — who fear for the safety of the nation with the aforesaid meshuganer in the White House, who is summarily arrested, sequestered, and replaced by an “acting president,” pending a call for an extraordinary new election to replace him by democratic means. I’m not promoting this scenario as necessarily desirable, but that’s how I think it will go down. It will be a sad moment in this country’s history, worse than the shock of John Kennedy’s assassination, which happened against the background of an economically stable Republic. History is perverse and life is tragic. And ***** happens.

Returning to the first forty-eight hours of the new regime, first the ceremony itself: there was, to my mind, the disturbing sight of Donald Trump, deep in the Capitol in the grim runway leading out onto the inaugural dais. He lumbered along, so conspicuously alone between the praetorian ranks front and back, overcoat open, that long red slash of necktie dangling ominously, with a mad gleam in his eyes like an old bull being led out to a sacrificial altar. His speech to the multitudes was not exactly what had once passed for presidential oratory. It was not an “address.” It was blunt, direct, unadorned, and simple, a warning to the assembled luminaries meant to prepare them for disempowerment. Surely it was received by many as a threat.

Indeed an awful lot of official behavior has to change if this country expects to carry on as a civilized polity, and Trump’s plain statement was at face value consistent with that idea. But the disassembly of such a vast matrix of rackets is unlikely to be managed without generating a lot of dangerous friction. Such a tall order would require, at least, some finesse. Virtually all the powers of the Deep State are arrayed against him, and he can’t resist taunting them, a dangerous game. Despite the show of an orderly transition, a state of war exists between them. Anyway, given Trump’s cabinet appointments, his “swamp draining” campaign looks like one set of rackets is due to be replaced by a new and perhaps worse set.

Trump was correct that the ruins of industry stand like tombstones on the landscape. The reality may be that an industrial economy is a one-shot deal. When it’s gone, it’s over. Even assuming the money exists to rebuild the factories of the 20th century, how would things be produced in them? By robotics or by brawny men paid $15-an-hour? If it’s robotics, who will the customers be? If it’s low-wage workers, how are they going to pay for the cars and washing machines? If the brawny men are paid $40 an hour, how would we sell our cars and washing machines in foreign markets that pay their workers the equivalent of $1.50 an hour. How can American industry stay afloat with no export market? If we don’t let foreign products into the US, how will Americans buy cars that are far more costly to make here than the products we’ve been getting? There’s no indication that Trump and his people have thought through any of this.

Trump can pull out the stops (literally, the regulations) to promote oil production, but he can’t alter the declining energy return on investment that is bringing down the curtain on industrial society. In fact, pumping more oil now at all costs will only hasten the decline of affordable oil. His oft-stated wish to simply “take” the oil from Middle Eastern countries would probably lead to sabotage of their oil infrastructure and the cruel death of millions. He would do better to prepare Americans for the project of de-suburbanizing the nation, but I doubt that the concept has ever entered his mind.

The problems with Obamacare, and so-called health care generally, are burdened with so many layers of arrant racketeering that the system may only be fixable if it is destroyed in its current form — the overgrown centralized hospitals, the overpaid insurance and hospital executives, the sore-beset physicians carrying six-figure college-and-med-school loans, the incomprehensible and extortionate pricing system for care, the cruel and insulting bureaucratic barriers to obtain care, the disgraceful behavior of the pharmaceutical companies, all add up to something no less than a colossal hostage racket, robbing and swindling people at their most vulnerable. So far, nobody has advanced a coherent plan for changing it. Loosing the Department of Justice to prosecute the medical racketeers directly would be a good start. Overcharging and defrauding sick people ought to be a criminal act. But don’t expect that to happen in a culture where anything goes and nothing matters. A financial crisis could be the trigger for ending the massive medical grift machine. Then what? Back to locally organized clinic-scale medicine… if we should be so lucky.

Saturday afternoon, Trump paid a call at CIA headquarters, ostensibly to begin mending fences with what may be his domestic arch-enemies. What did he do? He peeved and pouted about press reports of the lowish attendance at his swearing in. Maximum meshuga. I’m surprised that some veteran of The Company’s Suriname outpost didn’t take him out with a blowgun dart garnished with the toxic secretions of tree frogs.

Do you suppose Trump is going to improve? That was the hope after the election: that he’d take on some POTUS polish. No, what you see is what you get. I can only imagine that what’s going on behind the scenes in various halls of power would make a Matt Damon Bourne movie look like a sensitivity training session — grave professional men and women on all fours with their hair on fire howling into the acoustical ceiling tiles.

Don’t forget that it was the dismal failure of Democratic “progressive” politics that gave us Trump. His infantile lies and foolish tweets were made possible by a mendacious political culture that excuses illegal immigrants as “the undocumented,” refuses to identify radical Islamic terror by name, shuts down free speech on campus, made Michael Brown of Ferguson a secular saint, claims that there’s no biological basis for gender, and allowed Wall Street to pound the American middle class down a rat hole like so much sand.

You think this is the dark night of the national soul? The sun only went down a few minutes ago and it’s a long hard slog to daybreak.

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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

a million and a half ?
official sources are sticking to their figure on ONLY 250,00 attending the ceremony signifying the collapse of the country

Trump is claiming a million and a half ?
good God
is there anyone who does not see this man for what he is ?

Trump claims 'a million and a half' at his inauguration—delivers whooping lie in front of CIA

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/21/1623245/-Trump-claims-a-million-and-a-half-at-his-inauguration-delivers-whooping-lie-in-front-of-CIA

the DELUSIONS of grandeur are beyond describing in words

at this point I have went from being worried about Trump
to being terrified of him
something is DESPERATELY DESPERATELY wrong with this man

I cannot believe the hubris of Trump, to insist upon lying to the CIA, in front of a memorial wall dedicated to agents who made the ultimate sacrifice....believe me, they watched the parade via spy satellites and could probably give you an accurate head count to within plus or minus a few hundred.  

This is only the beginning of the first week....hang tight, folks, this is going to get rough.


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USDA under gag order
EPA now under gag order from the Trump regime
CDC cancels conference on health related issues due to climate change-didn't want to offend Trump

AmURiKa
you wanted change
you got it
now don't forget the most important part

sieg heil
sieg heil
SIEG HEIL !!!
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After Trump puts the truth on lockdown, climate change tweets deleted from park service account

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017...ervice-account

getting scared NOW ?

SIEG HEIL  !
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seems like a good idea
especially when you have someone as demonstrably UNSTABLE as Trump

Democratic Lawmakers Introduce Bill Limiting Trump's Ability To Launch Nuclear Strike

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/democratic-lawmakers-introduce-bill
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if they are going t "lock her up"
I guess its only fair that they "lock HIM up" too

Trump's top staffers have their own private email server; Trump is still using his unsecured phone

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/25/1625061/-Trump-s-top-staffers-have-their-own-private-email-server-Trump-is-still-using-his-unsecured-phone
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Well I'm disgusted at this point and I was willing to give Trump a chance even though I did not vote for him, I didn't vote for Hillary either, I voted Libertarian for the first time in my life. His decision to move forward with the Dakota Access Pipeline is a very poor move from an environmental standpoint, but then who needs clean water and land (insert sarcasm). Then I understand that he is looking at ending all the VAWA funding to states, this is money set aside for the Violence Against Women's Act, that is given to states to help pay for domestic violence services to victims. It helps pay for services to shelters, counseling, victim advocates, relocation, etc.

To add to both of those items. I am Native American, so the Standing Rock issue is two-fold for me. Plus the domestic violence aspect, I work under a VAWA grant, I make domestic violence services available to women in rural areas that have no transportation, no money, no job, sometimes not even a phone. So to me both are bad decisions.
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They go with the "clean coal" calumny and hypothetical healthcare hype.  Sigh!

He is meeting our Prime Minister about now to discuss trade.  I can't see that doing us any favors either.  Protectionism never did any country a good turn (from outside obviously and from inside because it loses friends and gains reverse protectionism) and that seems to be the status quo of his approach - ie. "screw the other guy" if you can.  
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"Clean coal" baahahaaha, like there is such a thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote jacksdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2017 at 5:14pm
I remember when the commercials touting clean coal started airing a few years ago. Make the lie big, tell it often enough, and people will believe it

The recent cuts are beyond belief - taking away funding to prevent violence against women was a shameful to do.

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This is interesting - Trump just quietly reshuffled the National Security Council, downgrading the role of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and taking them out of their perpetual rotation at all meetings. They still attend meetings where Trump is the chairman, but Principals Committee meetings are now only open to them if it's deemed their expertise is needed.

It might not seems like a big deal, but as was mentioned by one commentator, "... the Chairman (of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) is designated by law as the principal military advisor to the President and the NSC; it’s a lot easier to serve that function if you’re in the room and privy to all the conversations." Likewise with the intelligence community - excluding them because they won't go along with your latest big lie undermines their effectiveness, and further alienates them from the current administration.

He did replace them though - with his strategist (and former Brietbart editor), Steve Bannon....

http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/28/trump-just-replaced-the-director-of-national-intelligence-prepare-to-get-angry/

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Obviously, I am not in the pro-Trump camp.  So I tend to spot the anti-Trump stuff.  Even so, this surprised even me.   http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/donald-trump-mental-illness-narcisissm-us-president-psychologists-inauguration-crowd-size-paranoia-a7552661.html  






                             I just did not think anyone else had noticed yet.
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How bad is the flu where you live?
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Human flu is not here at all.  Our chickens and ducks are locked up by order from DEFRA as bird flu is in lincolnshire and lancashire (about 500 miles away) and they do not want it to spread.

How about there, Johnray?  And how are you?
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Just a question:-  

 If the current Pontus accuses someone of something, can we dismiss it as a "trumped up charge"?
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LOL  No, he is just blowing his own "Trumpet". Wink
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
"Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.
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