TSHTF list

I carry a list of last minute stuff in my truck, I also carry double the price of todays prices in cash for this stuff. Keep both together and ready, to run through the store marking it off when loading it in a buggy.

I drew a map of the store we would go to, with each item numbered in order of priority marked on the map of the store.

Lists are short
100 pound beans, 100 pounds of rice, 200 pounds each of flour, meal and any canned meats on the shelf.

Have a second list just like it for my helper and shotgun rider to take in the store next door, canned meats, mayo, coffee, tea, sugar, ketchup and comfort foods.

We ran a trial run from home to and through the stores, we can do it, under an hour, even stopping for gas on way home.

We consider TSHTF time, to be the first human case in the US. Others will be fighting over three day stuff, while we rolling right by them with the longterm stuff. But just in case, we will have some riding shotgun.

If things are getting real wild, we will use three trucks, and old moonshine hauling blocker tactics. Nothing new to any of us.

We are rural folks, maybe some city folks can add more or better stuff for city dwellers. I would be lost in a city if TSHTF.

Thanks Libby, the list was my idea, but the thread was Chuck's. If you like it thank Chuck.


If you don't like it blame Chuck, he made me do it.

City folk ideas:

This list assumes you have basic preps already done.

!st stop grocery store, buy anything imported, coffee, tea, sugar,spices, or anything produced far away, like, maple syrup, canned fish, molasses,cheeses, etc

Quick stop at auto store like Pep Boys, buy Gas cans, roadway flares, tire plug kit, 12 volt air pump for flats, motor oil, antifreeze, transmission fluid.

Next stop wally world, buy led solar yard lights, .22 cal amunition, 12 gauge ammunition,light bulbs, batteries, flashlights, fishing line and hooks,soaps and bleach, more gas cans.

Next stop gas station, fill all gas cans and vehicle.

Next, pawn shop, buy cheap .22 cal guns for trade and or 12 gauge shotguns for same.

Last stop, Liquor store, buy pints and fifths of cheap hard liquor for trading.

Following this agenda shoukl keep you one step ahead of the crowd, if the crowd has beat you there, skip it and go on to next place.

Go Home, bolt door, cover windows.  Hope for best.

Chuck-91 wrote: Next stop gas station, fill all gas cans and vehicle...Next, pawn shop, buy cheap .22 cal guns...and or 12 gauge shotguns for same...Last stop, Liquor store, buy pints and fifths of cheap hard liquor....

Prepping? Heck, this would be just a normal Friday night around here.

The 100 Things That Disappear First
As a point of reference in building your SHTF lists...

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of
thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried,
for home
uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile
ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled
etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD
CLEAR
PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term
lighting is
difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is
dangerous
without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will
go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in
Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience;
Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with
wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail
clippers,
etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

M&M's. If I buy any chocolate or candy for preps before the last minute, it
won't be there when we need it!

And a saxaphone.

Plus guns, rum, gardening supplies, dope, etc.

libbyalex wrote: BTW -- if you don't have ant killer spray, use lysol or any other spray cleaner. Does the same thing. Found out once by accident... -- Libby

 

clorox clean up spray really works well on ants

KatDoe67 wrote: Complete pancake mix! I can't afford to stockpile things we can't rotate fast enough. Pancake mix has dry eggs in it. Will clean the shelf off of pancake mix!

Suggestion..freeze for a few days..and then take out of the boxs and re seal in zip lock bags...taking as much air out as possible..the freezing is to get rid of any small bugs that may still be in there..and the boxs are not air tight..so I have ziplocked mine to keep fresh..I have had no problems at all cause I have used some from about 7 months ago and it made up perfect...

lol...I am the Rona zip lock Queen..almost all my preps are zip locked

Omega -- LOL! Chocolate is absolutely essential! And, just in case you haven't been welcomed to the board yet, consider yourself welcomed! Holler if there's anything we can do for you. -- Libby

I do have 4 months of food supplies, including  ample quanities of honey and sugar. We always have some chocolate around! I have also not really decided how much baking we'll plan on doing.

Much is dependent on when we individually decide that the S has officially contacted the blades of the fan.

I'm working on lists that will go into effect with certain triggers, as many probably are.

The m&ms, guns, and rum trigger is when there are a number of confirmed H2H cases.

The saxaphone trigger is when it shows up H2H in this country. I don't picture that there will be a huge mob at the music store.

andrew p wrote: I'm working on lists that will go into effect with certain triggers, as many probably are. The m&ms, guns, and rum trigger is when there are a number of confirmed H2H cases.

Keep in mind that all things may not be available when you decide its
time to buy. A lot of good rum and popular drink brands are imports, and
may run into distribution or production snags before the US proper is
affected.

With guns, keep in mind the availability of ammunition. I keep hearing a
lot of folks talk about getting a shotgun for protection, without realizing
that the best shotgun ammo can be hard to find currently. For SHTF
situations, you likely will want a good bit of buckshot (00), but deer
season is over now until November and most shops are out of stock. For
some reason, I've also discovered that quality 9mm shells are in limited
supply.

Local availability is another factor. If the items on your supply list have to
be mail ordered, you do not want to wait too late. Masks, emergency
radios and other mail-order survival gear could be hard to get as more
and more people decide to prep.

One last reminder: hurricane season is only a few months away. If you
decide to wait on the generator or propane grill, you may face shortages
of these types of items when people on the seaboard and gulf areas begin
to lay in supplies for another potentially bad storm season.

Balance what you think you'll need most against how available said items
will be. That formula is how I constructed my priority list.

Hi Fritz -- OK. This is just my opinion and someone else may have a better idea. I would go ahead an take it out, vacuum seal it, and put it in with your other preps. How are you storing your other preps? Are they in plastic bins or something? I'm having the same trouble with my freezer. Don't have enough room in it. (Maybe you want to let it reach room temp before you vacuum seal it...) -- Libby

Thanks guys, I'm gonna take one bag out at a time and I will let it get to room temp and I'll let you know how it goes. I ordered the oxygen absorbers and I have to get more vacume seal bags but when I have all that I will go into business of vacume sealing and then I guess put the bags in big plastic (like rubermaid but the cheap ones) containers in my basement. I have a couple of 5 gal cont. from Home Depot and gonna get some more of those too. I got from www.beprepared.com last month the mre shake mixes they had on sale and I have the buckets filled with them now.

Just checked, they still have them on sale under Group Specials they are only .40 each but you have to buy 100 min to get the sale price. I did, but maybe you have a friend who would want to share the order with you if that's too many for you. (group special orders also get free shipping but the shipping was never that high from them for some reason) The shakes have 18 gr. of protein which I thought was great and a really nice treat (van/Choc/Straw) you just have to add water to it. Like carnation instant breakfast I guess.  I think I might just order some more!!! I do have room in the buckets. LOL

that's all for now. :>}

My mom told me today, that the best thing for me to do at this point is get the pancake mix, grains and beans into zip lock bags. She told me to take the bags out of the carboard and just cut out the instructions. Then to store the zip locked foods in a metal trash can as many of the plastic storage bins give off odors into the foods.

Thanks for the freezing idea. I'd heard but forgotten, as up till now the porch I'm storing on has been freezing the grains and beans for me.

Ironstone wrote: I have a list of last minute items to pick up but they are things like fresh veggies and fruits.  Not things i "have" to have.  It may be too close to my area to take the chance of infection with other shoppers.  The things i will get are items with a very limited life and would probably only be good for a month or less.

Yes, if it's still safe to go to a grocery store, then that's what I'd be most interested in too, the fresh fruits & vegetables, and dairy foods.

Even when the price is superb, I NEVER buy more than a dozen of any one item at a time, because I dont want all my stored goods to originate from one factory on one day --- I want a good variety.

For instance, with TUNA -- I'd prefer to pick up half a dozen cans at a time, never more, because I'm spreading out the possibility of having ALL MY STORED FISH come from one old diseased mercury laden tuna fish -- by buying smaller quantities, more often, I've reduced the risk of that, and also reduced the risk of having my cupboard become bare due to a recall.

Can't answer for TN but I have a last minute list and cash which will give me a chance to show my neighbors I am as worried as them and have just what they do...oh poor me.  Also it will help and tie up some last minute preps. I figure while everyone is at the store And i am home folks will notice. My cache is confidential act like the locals  obviously if there is sickness I stay home.

Very sneeky, that whole reverse physcology will work gold. But maybe if you leave it to the last minute your just like your neighbors perhaps?

 

Exposing yourself to a last minute rush just leaves you open to bird flu.

 

Like we always used to say in the army, be a gray man, but dont fit in with the general population.

I want to add to the prepareness list and yes this will sound funny..kitty pan liners...I have 2 boxs of them here but I do not use them for the kitty pans..last spring I mixed multch and soil togerther and did this in cardboard boxes and I lined the boxs with a kitty litter liner...but his morning..don,t know why...but it jumped into my mind they could be used to line your toilet should the water go down...and get the kind that have the pull handles in them...

I think I read somewhere to save your grocery store handle bags for this..but I am wondering would they not be to small..so I am going to stock up on kitty box liners for this ...

The TSHTF list should be really, really SHORT. All of these preps should be completed beforehand.

The only thing left on my list is a midnight visit to my self-storage space, accompanied by a couple of carefully chosen friends. (And I pity-da-fool that becomes their enemy)

I heard many of the banks closed on 9/11, but so few of us were trying to go to the bank that we didn't notice.

I really don't see how money is going to help long-term if it is a worst-case scenario.  Money would probably be worthless.  Better to stock up on trade items. 

As for candy, I noticed that Target has a bunch of St. Patrick's day and Easter stuff on sale lately.

My answers to the questions about this idea. Number one, this thread got folks to thinking.

Beth and Moolooman, look at my list, 200 pounds of meal, and flour will last us, well beyond it's expiration dates. To buy this stuff now, would be a waste of my money, even if TSHTF did happen late this year, the flour, and meal could be ruined.

Richie Rich came back to my original point, if TSHTF? This list is short, 4 bags of beans, 4 bags of rice, 8 each of flour and meal. This is 24 bags, we can sling them in two buggies or pile them on one and be gone.

The 43 minutes it took us to make the trial run was on a heavy traffic day, and we stopped and filled some gas cans and the truck on the way home. We have 17 minutes spare to pump 50 more gallons of gas.

Notice, I said first human case in the US, we may have birds with it for a year before a human gets it. Just because it's in birds, doesn't mean it will wipe us off the face of the earth.

I think TNbebo408 has a very good point.  Buying a ton of staples like flour, rice, and meal right now won't do much good if the bird flu stays in birds for a year or two.  OTOH, at the first sign of H2H in the US, even if it's in Alaska, I definitely will go out and get more stuff. 

I have a lot of canned stuff at the moment and some pasta & rice as well.  But getting more than a two-month supply won't do me a lot of good if I can't rotate the food before it expires.  Especially since I'm single and don't have to worry about providing for any kids or significant others.