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    Posted: April 02 2017 at 12:08pm
Flumom lol.....  Hilarious.  Maybe it will come out in the hearing.

If h5n6 is causing deaths in Russia that would be really odd since it's a relatively new strain and I believe there has only been one death reported worldwide to date, if I'm not mistaking. Not 100% sure.  Would be curious to know how many deaths they're dealing with, and how many confirmed cases, suspected cases, people in critical, etc....   A pandemic spawning out of Russia would not be too far fetched.   Russia is similar to China and they're not big on releasing news, and for them to issue a "warning" is concerning.  It's also concerning that it's causing deaths in Russia instead of Asia, which could indicate a hybrid mutated strain.    Let's hoe we don't get any more reports from Russia on this, because if we do, it may very well signal the next pandemic.

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

OMG, It must be President Trump and the Russians they made this virus. I just know it was Trump and the Russians!



I think we should also be on the lookout for disease outbreaks in pigs as a possible precursor. If I remember rightly, that happened in the months before Spanish Flu broke out in army camps in Kansas. Pigs were at least partially responsible for getting H1N1 back to pandemic strength again in 2009. Between the ducks, chickens and pigs, I'd say we're in for a rough ride at some point.



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OMG, It must be President Trump and the Russians they made this virus. I just know it was Trump and the Russians!
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And now h5n6.  Where she stops nobody knows.  The next pandemic will certainly be of an avian origin, and probably an avian flu pandemic.  The only question would be which a/I strain and when.  Could it be a replay of how h1n1 mixed with a form of avian influenza a century ago?   Who knows.   Death, taxes and the next pandemic are the only certainties in life, lol. 

It will hit hard and fast either way.   We just have to make sure we track it from another country when it starts to give us 2- 3 day jump on preparing.   I will personally be fully fortified in half a day flat. 
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One hundred years since the last big one, and everything about the way these viruses propagate, reassort and spread has changed as society and animal husbandry had evolved - I don't know that it's possible to predict which strain will go efficiently H2H anymore. After all the drama surrounding H5N1 (the reason I ended up here), it's done nothing yet. H1N1 came out of left field in 2009 just when we'd written it off. And H7N9 is showing promise as the leading candidate, then H5N6 shows up on the radar. It's getting hard to remember the names of all the influenza strains we need to watch.

I wonder if better detection is the reason we know of so many circulating, or are they really showing up in ever greater numbers? Doesn't exactly bode well for the future if it's the latter Confused

I hear you, Albert - I'm on it. Can't seem to get more than eight pints of blood out of the guy though. I don't think he's trying.




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H5N6 human deaths is striking a 10 on the weird-meter. 

JD, we may need Rashat on this one for a vax. 
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The Russian Flu.  Good, because we own Russianflu.com.  Yahoo
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Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Rosselkhoznadzor's press service added that the virus contains the N5N6 strain.



Duh - this is what happens when I try to read posts on my phone without my glasses... Geek



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Eastern China has long had the reputation of being the `cradle of influenza' (see Viral Reassortants: Rocking The Cradle Of Influenza), being the birthplace of H5N1 in the mid 1990s, SARS (admittedly a coronavirus, not influenza) in the early 2000's, and the strong suspicion that 2 of the 3 major influenza pandemics of the last century (1957's Asian Flu, 1968's Hong Kong Flu) originated from that region.
In recent years, the number of novel flu viruses coming out of China has only accelerated, with H7N9 emerging in 2013 - followed by H10N8 - both of which have infected and killed humans. In 2014, two more avian flu viruses - H5N6 and H5N8 - emerged, and both can be traced back to China.
Each of these subtypes has spun off multiple clades, strains, or lineages - and these are just the major players. China's poultry, and wild bird populations are hosts to dozens of other influenza A subtypes (H9N2, H6N1, H6N6, H4N1, etc.) providing abundant genetic building blocks for generating new subtypes.

When you add human and swine influenza viruses to the mix, live markets with many different types of birds grouped together, and ample opportunities for humans and livestock to interact - you've got the essential ingredients for brewing zoonotic diseases.

Just two weeks before we first learned about the newly emerging H7N9 virus in the spring of 2013 a study (see EID Journal: Predicting Hotspots for Influenza Virus Reassortment) that identified 6 key geographic regions where reassortments are likely to emerge.
And high on that list (you guessed it), was Eastern mainland China.
Between this winter's unprecedented H7N9 epidemic and the jump of H5N6 from China to Korea, Japan, and Taiwan, there's little wonder that China's neighbors are worried that they may be next.


Two weeks ago, in FAO: Reinforcing Control Efforts Against H7N9 In China,in response to both the increased rate of infection, and the emergence of an HPAI H7N9 strain, the FAO warned:
Neighbouring countries remain at high risk, and all those that have poultry trade connections - either formal or informal - to China. A further concern is the possibility that changes seen in the H7N9 virus may affect wild bird population, posing risks to their health or turn them into migratory carriers of the virus, expanding the risk of the virus spreading further as has been seen with other avian influenza strains in faraway Europe, Africa or the Americas.
Over the past month we've seen repeated dire warnings from the Vietnamese government over that country's vulnerability to H7N9 (see Vietnam Girds Against H7N9).

Today, it seems to be Russia's turn to fret, with media warnings that avian H5N6 may be winging its way out of China and into Russian territory with this spring's migration.
The headline `России грозит опасный для человека птичий грипп' - `Russia is in danger to human bird flu- or variants thereof, have appeared on dozens of Russian websites in the past few hours.
Typical of these reports is the following from dp.ru, which contains a statement from Nikolai Vlasov, the Deputy Head of Rosselkhoznadzor Russia's Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Surveillance.
The authorities have warned of the possibility of visiting Russia for the deadly bird flu human 

In Russia, you may receive the avian flu, which is very dangerous to humans. It originated in Southeast Asia, several people have died from it.

Deputy Head of Rosselkhoznadzor Nikolai Vlasov said that Russia may appear dangerous to the human strain of bird flu. First of all at-risk group includes areas of the Far East, he said, reports RBC .

As Vlasov points out, while the export of H5N6 into Russia isn't guaranteed, a look at the migratory flyways of East and Central Asia  (see below) provide plenty of reasons for concern.



And while H5N6's recent incursions in to Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan suggest it may be the more mobile of the two, the recent emergence (and spread) of HPAI H7N9 has to be on their minds as well. 
As southbound migrations have historically sparked more avian flu outbreaks than northbound, perhaps the bigger concern is; what comes back next fall after these novel, and highly promiscuous, viruses have spent the summer in the world's high latitude nesting areas?

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Russian government warns of deadly bird flu outbreak

March 31, 2017 RBTH
Several people have already died from the virus that originated in Asia.
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Photo: Poultry blood is tested for viral disease at the veterinary diagnostic laboratory at Guryevskaya poultry factory in the Kaliningrad Region. Source: Igor Zarembo/RIA Novosti

Citing a statement made by Nikolai Vlasov, the deputy director of Rosselkhoznadzor – Russia’s Federal Service for Veterinary Phytosanitary Surveillance – on March 31, a deadly strain of bird flu may arrive in the country’s Far East – reports (in Russian) RBC.

"This type of bird flu was born in Southeastern Asia and there have already been cases of human death," said Vlasov. "This particular virus is a threat to our Far East District. Its entry is not predetermined but highly likely. Firstly, we may see this bird flu virus in the lower parts of the Primorsky Territory."

Rosselkhoznadzor's press service added that the virus contains the N5N6 strain.

According to Vlasov, there are currently three strains of bird flu virus active in the world. Aside from the one threatening the Far East, two more exist from Central Asia and Europe, but they are not dangerous to humans.

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