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    Posted: August 14 2017 at 8:26am
This is really pretty interesting...following up on the events in Charlottesville, I went to check out the neo-Nazi website "The Daily Stormer" as it was constantly mentioned in the press.  

Upon opening it, I found this message from Anonymous (unless it is a ruse):

THIS SITE IS NOW UNDER THE CONTROL OF ANONYMOUS


WE HAVE TAKEN THIS SITE IN THE NAME OF HEATHER HEYER A VICTIM OF WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM


FOR TOO LONG THE DAILY STORMER AND ANDREW ANGLIN HAVE SPEWED THEIR PUTRID HATE ON THIS SITE


THAT WILL NOT BE HAPPENING ANYMORE


WE HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS ON THE SERVERS AND WILL BE RELEASING THE DATA WHEN WE FEEL THE TIME IS RIGHT


WE HAVE ALSO GATHERED LOCATIONAL DATA ON ANGLIN HIMSELF AND ARE SENDING OUR ALLIES IN LAGOS TO PAY HIM A VISIT IN PERSON


THIS EVIL CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO STAND


IT TOOK A UNITED FORCE OF ELITE HACKERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO BREACH THE SYSTEMS AND THE FIREWALL


WE HAVE HAD THE DAILY STORMER IN OUR SITES FOR MONTHS NOW


THE EVENTS OF CHARLOTTESVILLE ALERTED US TO THE NEED FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION


WE WANT YOU NAZIS TO KNOW: YOUR TIME IS SHORT


WE WILL ALLOW THE SITE TO REMAIN ONLINE FOR 24 HOURS SO THE WORLD CAN WITNESS THE HATE

THEN WE WILL SHUT IT DOWN


PERMANENTLY


HACKERS OF THE WORLD HAVE UNITED IN DEFENSE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE


YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED US


https://www.dailystormer.com/hacked-anonymous-now-in-control-of-daily-stormer/

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This may be a ruse, as I suspected:

https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews, one of the biggest Anonymous-linked Twitter accounts, said on Monday it did not think the apparent hack of the Daily Stormer had been perpetrated by an established member.

“We have no confirmation that ‘Anonymous’ is involved yet,” it wrote on Twitter. Furthermore, the account suggested the post may have been a Daily Stormer stunt.



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It was obviously a "Stormer" stunt.

If you remove the part of the web address after .com you see it is just another article only distinguishable by its lack of bile.  Had the site been hacked,  then the poisonus article about poor Heather Hale should have been removed.

I have found few things in life more vile than that site.  I feel dirty for visiting it.  

I also have trouble believing you were fooled by it, Med.  Was this some kind of disinformation tactics to draw attention away from Trump?  If so, he himself scuppered you by repeating his omission in another half-hearted condemnation on my TV just now (BBC).
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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

It was obviously a "Stormer" stunt.

If you remove the part of the web address after .com you see it is just another article only distinguishable by its lack of bile.  Had the site been hacked,  then the poisonus article about poor Heather Hale should have been removed.

I have found few things in life more vile than that site.  I feel dirty for visiting it.  

I also have trouble believing you were fooled by it, Med.  Was this some kind of disinformation tactics to draw attention away from Trump?  If so, he himself scuppered you by repeating his omission in another half-hearted condemnation on my TV just now (BBC).


Your right. I was. I did a quick search and got this. I have posted what I feel are valid Anonymous Videos. However the legitimate Anonymous Group is still not Anonymous. The Face book page is not them and the spirit of the whole thing is for anyone embracing the basic philosophy to post.

There have been less than 6 truly impressive Anonymous videos most of which I have posted in the last two years.

Think this was hoax.

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Thanks, Med.  My faith is restored.  
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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

It was obviously a "Stormer" stunt.

If you remove the part of the web address after .com you see it is just another article only distinguishable by its lack of bile.  Had the site been hacked,  then the poisonus article about poor Heather Hale should have been removed.

I have found few things in life more vile than that site.  I feel dirty for visiting it.  

I also have trouble believing you were fooled by it, Med.  Was this some kind of disinformation tactics to draw attention away from Trump?  If so, he himself scuppered you by repeating his omission in another half-hearted condemnation on my TV just now (BBC).

Not only Med, but I was also tricked at first (albeit I did qualify that it might be a ruse).  I've been drilling down into the "official" Anonymous Twitter account, this is great reading: 


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If goal of Daily Stormer was to get us to celebrate a BS claim, it backfired. Seriously, suck less.


Even though I have deep ties to US federal law enforcement, I have a deep admiration for Anonymous....something that I don't discuss much in our meetings!!  LOL

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

It was obviously a "Stormer" stunt.

If you remove the part of the web address after .com you see it is just another article only distinguishable by its lack of bile.  Had the site been hacked,  then the poisonus article about poor Heather Hale should have been removed.

I have found few things in life more vile than that site.  I feel dirty for visiting it.  

I also have trouble believing you were fooled by it, Med.  Was this some kind of disinformation tactics to draw attention away from Trump?  If so, he himself scuppered you by repeating his omission in another half-hearted condemnation on my TV just now (BBC).

Not only Med, I was fooled for a bit! 

This "may" be an "official" Anonymous Twitter feed, it is fascinating reading! 


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I am very much encouraged by the TREMENDOUS blowback happening against the neo NAZI's,
the white supremacists and nationalists that is occurring
Trump,who has tacitly encouraged these groups is catching a lot of much deserved  criticism
maybe there is hope for America yet ?
but then
there is always FOX "News" condemning racism out of one side of their mouth and encouraging it out of the other
oh well at least they are consistent !
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multiple white supremacists in Trumps White House

WHY ???

Who Is White House Aide Sebastian Gorka?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzJ-XxBxboc

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Fox News Host Harris Faulkner: Trump Critics ‘Not on Our Side as Americans’

http://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-host-harris-faulkner-trump-critics-not-on-our-side-as-americans


FOX "News"

just how much water can they carry for the President ?


wannabe attacking anybody who dares criticize Trump

"“If the critics cannot accept anything ever, ever, ever, they are not on our side as Americans,” Faulkner reiterated. “Shame on them.”


here is what Theodore Roosevelt had to say about criticizing the President

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”


compare and contrast that with FOX "News"


who are the REAL un-Americans ???

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I am not without sympathy for FOX news.  There is a genuine dilemma here.

The office of president is one of great honor and requires much respect.  There should be some bar to public argument with the position of the president at least in minor matters to preserve the dignity of the office.  That dignity assists the smooth running of the country and allows for instant responses in times of crisis, like the outbreak of war or internal violence.

There also needs to be free speech and those who disagree need to have an audible voice.  In an ideal society there should be a balance between the two, with people only complaining when things pass a cetain point: a point which a president who is doing a good job never reaches.  I personally think the point was reached within the first 100 days, but that is my own opinion.  The FOX presenter obviously feels differently.  At least I hope that is the case.  

There is a chance that he is just "towing the party line" because he is afraid of losing his job in the spate of allegations of "fake news".  If that is the case, bearing in mind the press is the prime defender of free speech, his reply is despicable.
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I understand Satori's point and those of Technophobe.  However, I believe you have both missed three salient points.  The American constitution contains a bill of rights which states exactly what the people can and cannot do and what the President can and cannot do against them.

Secondly The American system is based upon (and greatly improves upon) that of the Roman and Egyptian Empires.

Thus, thirdly, if the President, or anyone else, organisationally or individually, is doing something that is a threat to the security, internally or externally (ie. nationally or internationally) then the people whom object must approach their State Governors, whom approach the Senators, whom take whatever action is necessary, up to and including impeachment of the President.

Not withstanding the above statement , "the people" must act in a sane and sensible manner.  For emotional outbursts by the President, or his people neither help nor protect the United States of America.  It is not just a matter of sentiment that the American National Anthem contains the words it does and you are the de-facto rulers of The World.
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:

multiple white supremacists in Trumps White House

WHY ???

Who Is White House Aide Sebastian Gorka?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzJ-XxBxboc


Yeah, this Gorka guy is a real piece of work!  He seems to be the most rotten apple of the bunch including Miller and Bannon.

I keep waiting for one of the generals in Trump's orbit (I respect all of them) to haul off and smash one of these Nazis in the mouth.  Watch Gorka, his tenure might be short.

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I agree "who is Gorka"

Suddenly appeared,very well spoken, very dangerous,as far as I'm concerned
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at this point I ALMOST feel sorry for Trumpen Fuhrer

some one needs to tell him "stop talking"
or better yet
"SHUT THE HELL UP"
he just keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper

the Republican Party is now going to be known as the party of

WHITE SUPREMACISTS,RACISTS,NATIONALISTS,and the KKK

good job Donnie
real good job
only seven months in and how many scandals ???LOL

and the best part is they are all un-forced errorsLOL

the so called "deep state" doesn't need to take Trump out
he is doing a fine job by himself !!!

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‘I'm glad that girl died’ during Virginia protest, says NC KKK leader


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/18e347e6-4449-3302-81c0-f732f7872677/ss_%E2%80%98i%27m-glad-that-girl-died%E2%80%99.html


who was it who said something to the effect

"history doesn't repeat itself but human nature does" ?

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WW2 veteran: Trump's response to #Charlottesville reminds me of the start of nazi terror in Germany

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/15/1689748/-WWII-vet-Charlottesville-Trump-s-response-remind-me-of-the-start-of-nazi-terror-in-Germany

“Because I am old, now 94, I recognise these omens of doom. Chilling signs are everywhere, perhaps the biggest being that the US allows itself to be led by Donald Trump, a man deficient in honour, wisdom and just simple human kindness. It is as foolish for Americans to believe that their generals will save them from Trump as it was for liberal Germans to believe the military would protect the nation from Hitler’s excesses.”



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Trump disbands CEO councils as business leaders desert


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/inge-thulin-3m-quits-trump-manufacturing-council-241705


the dumpster fire known as the Trump Presidency LOLLOLLOL

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There was no-one left in his CEO council,he had no choice,he should fire himself, he not fit for purpose.....
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The planned Infrastructure Council has also been scrapped

From other forums I have heard that US infrastructure could do with a lot of work so this does not seem to be a good move to secure the long term prosperity of the country.
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That was an informative article Edwin.  Thank you.

I gave it a good read as removing/disbanding councils and quangoes is a great way to remove obstacles to difficult political paths, therefore rather worrying when the Trumps of this world do it.   (Hitler did it on a huge scale in the thirties.  It set the stage for his control of the country.)  As it happens, it was one of his own policy changes he was disbanding, so I do not think I can harangue him on that, except perhaps as yet another failed policy change in an ineffectual, internally divided administration. 

It did lead me on to this though:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40954179 which beautifully makes my point for me, that America is losing face on a massive scale due to Trump's ineptitude, racism and lack of both compassion and self control.

That article led me on to read this one:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40948414, which reports our Prime Minister's reaction to events on that side of the pond.  Read at face value it is damaging.  Read with the understanding that she cannot antagonize America, as we are going to be very dependent on new Anglo-American trade deals after brexit, it is starkly condemnatory.
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Unfortunately when backed into a corner who knows what this fool will do,press the button....why not!!!! The fools who voted for him gave him that option......
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