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    Posted: October 03 2017 at 10:16am
Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:

Question?? Who pays for the medical bills of Victims of crime in the USA,sorry for asking at this, it is something I have often wondered


Gun ownership is a right, healthcare is a privilege. I'm not even going to try to explain that one.


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This is all so sad. 


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Listen to the cadence of gunfire in this video.  I train with the FBI, who let me shoot their fully-automatic weapons if I'm a good boy. 


I'm having a VERY hard time accepting that this guy, with no military training, would be able to sustain this level of gunfire.  Sure, he can swap rifles, reload etc. but this almost sounds like belt-fed military fire.  
Yeah, I know all about bump-firing, trigger-cranks etc.  Those techniques don't line up with what I hear.

There might be another person involved, at least.  Just saying.  OK City had McVeigh and Nichols, so why not? 
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I don't even know what to say! It will take some time to know why this nut case has done this! My bet is a brain tumor! I'm a western democrat and support the 2nd Amendment but this must stop! How many "moments of silence" must we endure? When will we say "enough"? When will the Congress wake up and do their job and protect the American people? This is not the "old west", I'm willing to but don't want to and shouldn't have to carry a gun every day to protect myself and my family! We must put a stop to this insanity!
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I've spoken about this for some time....the death rate from firearms increased drastically with the ability of one person to project more lead than before.  When the revolver was first invented in the 1800s, the murder rate also went up.  

I'm a strong defender of arms ownership for personal defense, but we may have moved too far with allowing the capacity of military-styled weapons in civilian hands.  This is an important document: 


My suggested solution is to enforce the 2nd Amendment as written:  

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."



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Question?? Who pays for the medical bills of Victims of crime in the USA,sorry for asking at this time, it is something I have often wondered
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Vicious.
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KRAZEEEE old man yells at clouds

Pat Robertson says Vegas attack was because of people's "disrespect" of Trump & national anthem

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/2/1703514/-Pat-Robertson-says-Vegas-attack-was-because-of-people-s-disrespect-of-Trump-national-anthem
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Cry  sadley it gives other NUTTERS IDEA'S...........
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It hits very close to home for me as I had my other friend murdered in the San Bernardino attacks. I really hope no one I know was at this festival. My heart breaks for those lost lives full of potential regardless of age, race, political affiliation, religion or lack there of, sexual orientation,  etc and for those who survived, but will have to live with the horrors witnessed and the physical/mental effects of it.
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Originally posted by Albert Albert wrote:


I know that JD, Hachiban, myself and a few others live just a few hours away from Vegas.  Really hits home.   Thanks Carbon from your U.S. neighbors for the nice comment.  


Thanks, carbon.

That is close to home, Albert. And hopefully it won't become a blueprint for future attacks, because the gunman's location and the crowds inability to shelter from him undoubtedly lead to the tragically high death toll.

What the hell goes through someone's mind when they plan and execute something like this?

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In the horror of this atrocity,  some of you may have missed the killing that took place in Canada on Saturday night.  ‘Lone wolf’ thought to be behind ‘terror’ attacks that injured five in Canada

It is tiny in comparison to the astonishingly monstrous attack in Las Vegas, but still an act of terror in which people died.   http:///www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/‘lone-wolf’-thought-to-be-behind-‘terror’-attacks-that-injured-five-in-canada/ar-AAsIMy7?li=BBoPWjQ

Once again it is lone wolves, and ISIS has claimed the responsibility, which rumor has it was the driving force in this unprecedented wickedness.

I doubt that this villiany will be the last so be watchful people - not just for this week!
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I know that JD, Hachiban, myself and a few others live just a few hours away from Vegas.  Really hits home.   Thanks Carbon from your U.S. neighbors for the nice comment.  
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Yes this was awful news to wake up to this morning!
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/shooter-las-vegas-concert-kills-20-injures-over-100 A 64 year old white male-no criminal known history is responsible.

Was this grandfather thinking he was playing a game from a 32nd floor looking out at a large crowd ? Did he realise what he was doing ? What makes someone do such a horror ? 

I am sorry for all those people that got killed, wounded, lost familymembers, friends...I hope there will be a way to find out why this man did this...



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Sorry, I don't know why you would support the right to carry a weapon, if anyone was in the mad belief that you can stop a shooter,just look at this tragedy....
If you had a tank you would never have stopped this.....
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Horrible!  Those poor people!  Their poor families!

I support the right to bear arms, but you sure do pay heavily for it, America.
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50 dead so far, more expected,im not surprised the way the gun fire never stopped
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Sad to hear this latest atrocity,

Much support for our American friends

All the way with the USA......
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